Guild Wars 2

The OP said the Engi kept confusion stacks on him, and that the he was taking almost no damage, that means the Engi was using the TankCat build. I run a lot with the original TankCat and have seen many, many players kill themselves on his confusion/retaliation stacks.

Ways of beating TankCat:
Don’t hit TankCat.
Run away from TankCat.

In all seriousness you won’t kill a well played TankCat build even 1v5, but at the same time he won’t kill you either unless you’re hitting him.

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Since there is no number that when reached says that you are a zerg I wont comment on that part, However 15-20 man roaming party is most defiantly not the norm. I will say that being a zerg has less to do with the numbers and much more to do how they approach a confrontation.

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Please stop this stupidity before the thread gets closed.

If you have something constructive to say by all means say it, but if you are going to continue the slap fight please take it elsewhere.

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The main problem i see for condition Necro’s WvW is our reliance on condi duration to do any sizable amount of damage. The “problem” therefore becomes that many classes have/can spec into passive condition removers which completely counters our damage without them having to sacrifice much for it.

Ex: Blood is Power when stacking just condition duration Blood is Power gives 2 bleeding stacks and lasts 58sec, but if fighting a Guardian you can only count on 10sec of that at the most to be applied to your target. Taking the total damage you can count on going through from nearly 6k to around 2k. That is 4k damage negated from a passive.

Possible Fixes:

Give necro’s the ability to apply stacks of conditions faster.
We need some abilities with semi long cool-downs that will let us put a good amount of stacks on our target, therefore allowing us to get the majority of our damage through before our conditions are removed.

IDEA!: An ability that take all conditions on the target and applies the sum of the damage instantly.

Change the way condition removal is treated:
Condition removal should be treated like block/invulnerability becuase in essence the same thing is happening by them negating the incoming damage. Condition removal should be something that the defending player should have to activate. Traits that activate when the player reaches a certain health % are not really an issue because they are usually a major trait and should have a lager effect, but the signets that give passive condition removal for just having them on your bar need to be reworked.

Just some of my thoughts on the issue.

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Thanks for taking the time, and making the effort to answer some of our questions. Even though i might not agree with everything, it’s nice to have a team that makes efforts to keep us informed about what they are interested in doing.

Speaking to fellow players now:
Guys i know it’s easy to be all “Doom and Gloom” whenever the word nerf is implied, but lets give these guys the benefit of the doute, and see how things shake out before we go crazy.

I do have one suggestion, can you please advertise these types of live events better. I check the gw2 page and the official forums every day and didn’t see anything about this.

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Where are you seeing this info? if you have a link please post it.

Thanks

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Can some one please explain to me why we are even arguing over what tier DB’s NA “should” be in?

When Anet make it so that NA, EU and Oceanic have their own severs and are not allowed to transfer outside their region then i can see this being a useful discussion. As it stands now WvW is a 24hr game, and it will be for the foreseeable future. when discussing a servers tier you have to look at their 24hr coverage to accurately see their strength. when people start splitting up the severs into time segments then the argument looses solidity because now anybody can claim that “Your 10am-12pm crew sucks, and should really be in tier 8 because i just pwnd all you newbs!”

Oh and you better believe that DB’s night crew (relative term) played a huge part in getting them to this tier. Just as DB’s NA presence not giving up, but continuing to fight out maned for months, can claim that they also played a part in their tier position. so lets please leave the “night capping” debate out of this thread, and use it as it is intended to be used.

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The difficulty doesn’t come from creating a map. it comes from creating a balanced map.

Let’s shut down the inner-sever drama right now. We have many different guilds that do things differently, and they are good at it. That is one of the reasons why DB can be so successful without having to have a big alliance to control the flow in WvW. I’m sorry if anybody was offended by Vidar Oort’s comment, and would just like to point out that it will take time for all the new transfers to find the right fit in DB.

Personal I haven’t seen any new guild exhibiting bad habits, and am glad you guys decided to join us.

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I’m not sure where we are getting that there will be new WvW maps. The Dev’s did say that it is something that they want to do but that it will be a huge undertaking and that they are focusing on other things atm.

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It has nothing to do with us feeling like we can under preform and just wait for our night crew to take everything. Ever since our big NA guilds left, and we started to free fall down through the tiers, we have been out maned during NA prime time in every match. If DB NA crew had a slogan it would be “Hold the Line!” And we’ve gotten pretty darn good at it i might add.

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Can we get a score update please.

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So what are you guys thinking is going to be “progression” in WvW?

Some things me and guild mates thought of:
WvW Legendary Weapon skins
More realistic numbers for titles

I know this is probably not going to happen but titles that effect game play would be a nice little something to work towards.
Ex 1; The siege builder title would increase the speed you build siege by a certain amount.
Ex 2;Tower defender title gives you ~10% increased health when defending a tower.

Really I’m just wanting to know what you think Anet may have coming down the pipe for February, or what you want to see.

To those of us on DB who are posting screen shots of completely green maps just to rub the loosing servers nose in it, please stop. I understand that not everyone who posted had that intent, but do we really need 3+ post showing that? DB has been where these servers are and understands the struggles that they are facing now, and those the are to come. let’s continue to be a server that honors our opponents in defeat, and victory. Show some class guys.

Caliburn.1845:

It is with great sadness that I want to announce that Win Everyday(WE) is moving from Darkhaven to Dragonbrand. We’ve been with Darkhaven since the release of the game(three of our commanders are among the first ten on the server), we have helped build up the server since the DHU alliance tore the heart out of Darkhaven’s WvW forces, we helped again after Darkhaven reached tier4 and was destroyed. But the situation for Darkhaven’s organic WvW scene is worse than ever before. After the DHU fiasco Darkhaven had RE, GoF, SE, HoT, HVN and WE ready to step in and rebuild.

Now? GoF is gone, SE is gone, HoT has more or less retired from WvW, HVN has folded, RE is leaving.

This would not be crippling for Darkhaven, if it had another group of guilds waiting in the wings to save the server. But it does not. I’ve watched closely, putting hours into WvW every single day since release. Guilds like Omen, DRoW, SoS all had potential to really aid Darkhaven’s WvW scene, but none have reached critical mass, and each has somewhat withdrawn from WvW.

WE have tried the alliance game. We’ve tried the server-community website. We’ve offered a public mumble to everyone on Darkhaven. There has been little to no response. We’ve coordinated and communicated with anyone and everyone on the server who are willing. And the vast bulk of the server doesn’t care. Their version of WvW is simple. Enter WvW and ask, “Where is the karma train?” If there is no karma train, leave WvW. Defend? Not a chance.

And we’re done trying. It isn’t worth it anymore. Darkhaven is a PVE server at heart. BURN, DHE, TRA and others all have hundreds of members, and have little to no desire to do WvW.

To that small band of loyal fighters(those who respond to defensive calls, and leave the karma train) we’re sorry to abandon you. Silverback, Skap, Togochubb, Lokii, Flint; Omen, DR, PD, EXE, PaK members, and a few others I’m sure I’m forgetting. We’re sorry. You guys all deserve so much better.

WE like working with you guys, and hope you’ll consider coming along to Dragonbrand.

You have a choice and nobody can tell you it’s wrong, but leaving DH and coming to DB during the match will leave a bad taste in many peoples mouths.

When fighting a thief you want snares.

Using hammer, great sword and JI, i find that i can kill almost any thief i see, or that tries to gank me. The secret is keeping them in one spot, and that is where Hammer 5 comes into play. If the thief is on you just hammer 5, followed by hammer 2 then great sword 2. if they are at range just throw JI at the start of that sequence. Very few thieves can survive that combo.

Learn to channel Ring of warding just before you teleport, it help a ton.

Using hammer, great sword and JI, i find that i can kill almost any thief i see, or that tries to gank me. The secret is keeping them in one spot, and that is where Hammer 5 comes into play. If the thief is on you just hammer 5, followed by hammer 2 then great sword 2. if they are at range just throw JI at the start of that sequence. Very few thieves can survive that combo.

Just remember no amount of damage will save you if you don’t time you dodges and heals correctly.

For those of you looking at the score and wondering where DB went remember this. a portion of our night time crew does celebrate Christmas, and our NA crew was small to begin with. Having anybody not long in during the NA prime hurts us more then the other servers.

not making excuses why we are losing (ya’ll are putting up a hell of a fight) just wanted to make sure DB’ers knew what was going on. Keep up the good fight Yak and Mag, and no matter who gets dropped to T5 i’m certain we will be fighting again soon.

Please listen and understand that DB does not and will not condone cheating. We can not help, just like yourself, if there our people on our server who feel the need to work outside the rules to win. I only ask that you report any DB player who you see cheating and hopefully they will be banned. The sad truth is that no matter what tier your in cheating exists because people are always looking for whatever will give them an advantage. Please accept this apology, and lets play this week of great WvW with respect for each other and end this fight over cheating.

Also this is not the correct place to make those accusations. this is a friendly WvW forum where people can come and enjoy discussing battles with the other servers. Please if you feel the need to call out a server for cheating, make your own thread, and don’t ruin this one for everybody else.

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Please listen and understand that DB does not and will not condone cheating. We can not help, just like yourself, if there our people on our server who feel the need to work outside the rules to win. I only ask that you report any DB player who you see cheating and hopefully they will be banned. The sad truth is that the further you go in the tiers the worse the cheating becomes because people are always looking for whatever sill give them an advantage. Please accept this apology, and lets end this great week of great WvW with respect for each other and end this fight over cheating.

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Thank you for the update.

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Can we get a score update please.

My one and only problem with Zergs is that the Downed State becomes broken in a fight with 3 to 1 ratios. Even if the smaller group takes them by surprise and uses better tactics/group design. The Zerg will win because the small group can’t finish off the downed players fast enough.

There are plenty of way you can support your group in this game. it’s just not support in the conventional sense. In most MMO’s the support is in the back playing Wack’a Mole with health bars while kitting (which is fun, I’ve done it.). In this game however support takes on a much more of a front line role. Chills, cripples, poison, vulnerability, combo fields, battle field control (walls, wells, anything that stops or delays the enemy) these are things that a good support will be using. Trust me If you do these things, you’ll get you loot.

Most of the guilds in DB that have been here since launch have no inclination to leave, and that includes a huge part of our night time presence. We’ve stuck it out this far and now that we are having good close fights, why would we want to screw the tier balance up again by dropping down to a lower one?

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Goblin.1586:

To that 3 lowbie mesmers from Rakk guild who were camping EB JP entrance omg that was hilarious! After carefully watching what happened there it turned out there weren’t just 1 lowbie mesmer but 2, and after slowing it down more, there were 3 who look exactly the same, and have same guild too.

Too funny! Makes me wanna make a mesmer lookalike group as well, haha.

I’m glad you got a kick out of it.

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I am amusing that this is in regards to WvW.

The main problem with condition damage that i have found in WvW is its long ramp up time. It will take you somewhere around 6~7 sec to get your conditions rolling for you to start doing good damage. In the same amount of time against a average opponent your already half health, and against a glass cannon your dead.(Yes skill plays a factor, and results may vary) Condition damage is great in a long drawn out fights, but really lacks the punch to end them quickly. If conditions are the way you want to go i would suggest to build as much survivability as possible. Not necessarily in your traits but in your utilities.

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havoc.8569:

Are you guys trying to get grenades nerfed? Just tell them to fix everything else. But yeah, such disappointing class changes all around. Made worse by giving us false hope with that “30 bullet points ERMAHGAWD!!!!”

BTW does anyone understand why they nerfed grenade damage by 10% only in PvP? Isn’t that just sPvP? Since when do engineers use grenades in sPvP? Seems like a great way to do no damage and die.

Support Engi’s were running Grenades because they could sit away from the point, but lay down a crazy amount of aoe damage.

I don’t see this as big nerf guys, and i exclusively play WvW on my Engi. Yes grenades damage got nerfed, but the speed got buffed which make it a more reliable option in any type of PvP. I would much rather hit my target more, then do more damage if i hit. The Tool Kit buffs also help. 3 sec of block is nothing to laugh at, and now with the 1,200 range pull we can easily get people out of position.

I don’t really see a increase or decrease in our effectiveness. All in all it was a bug fixing patch.

Wall of Reflection does not block siege, and from my knowledge no profession base ability can.

Not connecting for me either.

Having seen this first hand in last weeks match all i can say is well done Maguuma guilds that pull off this strat. i was in the garrison’s commander room watching ~20 Mag invaders sit and tank every thing we could through at them for around 10-15min. i was very impressed.

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Personally the only time i’ve done this is when we have just pushed away a zerg but the dead don’t way-point and just lay their spying/waiting to be rez’ed. I jump up and down on their head and give them something to report about.

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Was WvW more fun when matches were only 24hrs?

Just something me and my guild had been talking about lately, and i was wondering what the community thought about it.

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Players need to realize that the numbers that show up every time you press “B” don’t dictate the amount of fun each server is having. The fun is in the epic defenses, the ninja’ed keeps, the shear amount of people you can annoy before going down. Sure some people care about winning the week, but what does that really do for you? There will always be fair weather players, but those of you who genuinely like WvWing don’t let the point gap prevent you from joining in on the fun.

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The Storm is coming.

@Nikkle.4013: I respect your right to choose where you play and who you want to play with. But, please don’t imply that DB players are immature for feeling a bit betrayed by what happened.

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For all the DB players out there let’s keep the attention on building our server back up, and not on the guilds that left. We need to start looking at the positives of the situation; we’ve got a very promising alliance just geeing off the ground and we did very well during NA prime time all things considered. We probably won’t be winning this match, but just give it time, keep it positive and we’ll see who comes out on top.

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That’s the exact mind set we need Eurlin. It may take a little while but this server will be a powerful force.

I agree with both Blackgoat and Disen. What i mean by no dictatorship is that we do not have a ridged hierarchy but a very malleable collection of groups. Leaders will arise over time, but just because you have a blue thing over your head does not mean you should lead. We want it to be organic in growth, and once we settle on a system that benefits the whole server we will set it in stone.

There is a lot going on behind the scenes right now, and it’s looking very promising.

+1 to NorthStar

I’m here to let the community of Dragonbrand know that the majority of guilds that make up our current alliance are leaving for “greener pastures”. Their leaving has created a great opportunity for this server to grow into an even better tight-nit community, but it’s going to take some work.

I’d like to Introduce the WarStorm Alliance. WarStorm is looking to bring together PvP and PvE guilds for a singular goal of being a force in WvW. We already have 10 guilds signed up and another 3-4 interested. Even if your guild is strictly PvE we could still use your help with material/gear farming, or what ever else you would like to contribute. If you or your guild were hesitant on joining the previous alliance please know that WarStorm is not going to be a dictatorship where a hand full of guilds have all the power. WarStorm is striving to be server wide communication network so we can be a better informed server as a whole. We are currently working on getting the website up, and looking at other ways to improve server communication. These are exciting times to be apart of Dragonbrand, and if you would like to be apart of WarStorm please PM and I’ll get you in contact with the right people.

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Sceptus sir, you make me laugh.