Guild Wars 2

atai.1467:

Qwixx.5923:

1) 22-29 december -> http://mos.millenium.org/servers/view/16/14
Best result for Vizunah for all 7 days id between Midnight and 7 am.

2) 15-22 december -> http://mos.millenium.org/servers/view/16/13
4 nights of 7 (during the weekend SFR Owning the others 2 servers for 48 pratically).

3) 8-15 december -> http://mos.millenium.org/servers/view/16/12
4 days best result is between Midnight and 8 am.

4) 1-8 December -> http://mos.millenium.org/servers/view/16/11
The beginning of nightcapping

Bytheway this game is 24×7 with no limitation for Geographic area or Language (in SFR there are some French/German/Spanish Guilds) so if you want to discuss on nightcapping and NA guilds do not discuss the game but the rules.

See ya on battlefields you will find me with [OSC] tag

This is valid for the local time of the ladder and EU players, but now i’ll let you look over your US and RU players:

- US primetime: US EST 6pm to 12am (CET 00H00-06H00/03H00-09H00).
- US nighttime: US EST 12am to 6am (CET 06H00-12H00/09H00-15H00).
- RU primetime: RU MSK 6pm to 12am (CET 15H00-21H00).
- RU nighttime: RU MSK 12am to 6am (CET 21H00-03H00).

2013-01-01 11:37:56 111 184 +330
2013-01-01 11:03:27 110 246 +350
2013-01-01 10:40:46 109 350 +365
2013-01-01 09:58:50 107 912 +385
2013-01-01 08:53:41 105 887 +420
2013-01-01 06:18:32 99 767 +455
2013-01-01 05:52:29 98 664 +435
2013-01-01 03:43:39 93 724 +370
2013-01-01 02:57:40 92 452 +300
2013-01-01 01:34:50 90 411 +300
2013-01-01 00:14:56 87 956 +310
2012-12-31 23:12:37 86 622 +230

VS is nightcap king ?
Oh no excuse me, it was a celebration day. Does this mean that SFR don’t celebrate the new year ? Oh no excuse me again, you have multi timezones.

smitske.4912:

Dardeldar.3904:

…

Your hypocrisy just gave me cancer, good job.

You are right when you say people should stop whining about nightcapping its the game , also about most other things (class unbalance I disagree), yet in the next one you start whining because you get beaten by something, its all fair as long as Arenannet doesn’t say otherwise, VS is nightcap king and that has given them many wins so now other server do things to block the main strategy and u whine? You stay stop whining like little babies and u have a point yet in the same post u whine like a little baby yourself.

What is your reference for say that we have the best nightscaping ?
It’s not you who are on three different timezones ?

Dardeldar.3904:

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Pavé César !
By the way, RG had stop the game when culling was modified for a week because they could no longer zerg…

For those who speak of the VS nightscaping:

US primetime: US EST 6pm to 12am (CET 00H00-06H00/03H00-09H00).
2012-12-30 08:30:44 42 192 +145
2012-12-30 07:50:53 41 603 +165
2012-12-30 07:13:04 41 025 +250
2012-12-30 06:05:39 39 630 +270
2012-12-30 05:07:38 38 348 +330
2012-12-30 04:42:31 37 584 +285
2012-12-30 04:06:49 36 684 +285
2012-12-30 03:32:44 35 846 +245
2012-12-30 03:02:30 35 116 +275
2012-12-30 02:10:09 34 067 +245
2012-12-29 23:25:29 30 129 +265

US nighttime: US EST 12am to 6am (CET 06H00-12H00/09H00-15H00).
2012-12-29 15:28:51 20 429 +265
2012-12-29 14:47:03 19 230 +290
2012-12-29 14:10:07 18 378 +295
2012-12-29 11:35:20 15 038 +225
2012-12-29 10:41:50 13 850 +300
2012-12-29 10:13:12 13 059 +295
2012-12-29 09:50:00 12 565 +310
2012-12-29 09:34:10 12 149 +295
2012-12-29 08:44:01 10 681 +290
2012-12-29 07:55:06 9 479 +270
2012-12-29 07:20:31 8 746 +295
2012-12-29 07:07:23 8 329 +390
2012-12-29 05:15:16 4 914 +320

RU primetime: RU MSK 6pm to 12am (CET 15H00-21H00).
2012-12-30 21:26:13 57 926 +260
2012-12-30 20:45:50 57 006 +175
2012-12-30 19:27:58 55 535 +205
2012-12-30 18:33:27 54 256 +220
2012-12-30 18:25:58 54 203 +185
2012-12-30 15:58:04 51 172 +280
2012-12-30 15:28:31 50 407 +275
2012-12-30 15:15:43 50 007 +285

RU nighttime: RU MSK 12am to 6am (CET 21H00-03H00).
2012-12-30 03:02:30 35 116 +275
2012-12-30 02:10:09 34 067 +245
2012-12-29 23:25:29 30 129 +265
2012-12-29 23:04:19 29 472 +230
2012-12-29 22:07:00 28 379 +255
2012-12-29 21:43:19 27 698 +230
2012-12-29 21:28:37 27 344 +210

While PRX is in vacation and there is also EU players.

[Rawr] guild from SFR camp the puzzlejumps every days with 10+ ppl for hours.
Such a proof of courageous imposes compliance !

Garrison.
http://hpics.li/54aabd5
http://hpics.li/a4ae943

It’s holidays, the population of VS & ER has increased, while SFR has declined.
When it will end, and PRX will return, SFR will again twice more than other…

Killver.7653:

Germans bandwagoning the french trakittenalk. So cute

You really want only PvD at night? Be happy that you can fight PRX. But well, if Vizunah could PvD all the time they would be so happy, because they only play for score.

Without them you are no longer in T1, how could we PvD while a another server take your rank ?

PRXKV.1296:

VZ is a very consistent T1 performer with excellent coverage almost all hours of the day. Now, there is some disagreement with how they get that coverage. According to VZ, it’s the same 60 people, all from France, that play 20 hours a day and cover all 4 maps with their skills. Opinions vary on this but even if this is true, 60 people covering four maps is still low WvW population.

And yet, it’s quite true.
I invite you to come on Vizunah a week to see this with your own eyes, hoping that stop the legend of “our 300 Canadians on each map… © PRX guildmaster.”

Binafus.8153:

Why PRX go back home, Your server already out numbers SFR with PRX, You guys like hitting on doors?

Yeah dude, it simply means that you don’t have your place in T1.

suprNovae.5410:

@tita.6358 I have seen how many people are one your Teamspeak and it’s ridiculous how people say there are just canadians who are jsut night capping.
You have really equal numbers on teamspeak like us on Elona and that is really not much… but we both have both one simple strategy (at least at satuday-sunday night). Gather the whole server and leave a few scouts on each bl… that’s it.

Exactly, but they think we have 300 Canadians per maps the night because our zerg is multimap…

Wothan.4673:

only who have the most ppl coverage it’s all.

Yes, but there are exceptions, look at the last week, SFR was twice as many than VS. And yet the difference was only 4K.

Jackie.1829:

What does it matter if the night force of one server is EU while the night force of another server is NA, all that matters is that they are on at the same hours fighting over an objective no?

Wow, of course not… this is not a international ladder… but EUROPEAN LADDER on a ranked game. To believe that you are blind on SFR.
In the case of a world cup occurring in EU, what would NA teams thinking if they were to go in EU the same day of the match, undergoing the jet lag ?

What you do not understand is that before these migrations, primetimes had took place simultaneously on all servers, the night on one was also in the others, it was fair. Now our night team are for the most part a day team, they tire to play longer to counter your multi primetimes…
And do not forget that is holidays here, do not rely at this week.

Centrix.4065:

Qwixx.5923:

Centrix.4065:

Why would it matter if there were non-EU players on EU servers?

For obvious reasons of equity and fairplay in WvW.
We are on EU ladder, it’s not multi-timezone like US ladder. That’s why this timezone problem does not exist their homes but here.
A person who joined friends is acceptable, but an massive migration that has the sole purpose of crushing easily the T1 is not.

I understand, but if people didn’t pay attention to the regions (or if there wasn’t any NA/EU server distinction) then more EU guilds would be playing on NA servers and more NA guilds would play on EU servers. So it would probably balance out better.

- So no:
[EU] Blacktide
[EU] Seafarer’s Rest
[NA] Sea of Sorrows
[NA] Sanctum or Rall

- But instead, just:
Blacktide
Seafarer’s Rest
Sea of Sorrows
Sanctum or Rall

But I guess it’s just the way it is… Can’t do much about it now.

If there was a international ladder, but this is not the case.
There is a US for NA players and EU for EU players, we must respect that for fair competition.

Phoebe Ascension.8437:

GrandMechantLoup.8201:

Centrix.4065:

Phoebe Ascension.8437:

Is this a Coincidance? Nope. AS transfered to Vizu. Stop hiding in lies.

Nice show, really funny ! But all french speaking community know two things :

- The most important thing for AS in the world is ……….. beat VS
- The most important thing for VS in the world is ………… beat AS

Some people in each side have hate from 10 years ago …

If one day AS and VS players merge in the same server, then war is over for you.

Well I would almost believe you, but AS and Vizu allied against BT, the last week AS was in tire 1. They did not so for the course of the week. But the last 3 hours Vizunah Square 100% dedicated themself to kill Blacktide, and they went side by side with AS zergs, not killing each other, to our keep to destroy it.

If you guys hate each other so much, this sort of alliance (temporary as it may have been) is not possible.

And to those that say, state only facts, this is one. VS, AS, BT know this happened the last 3 hours of the VS-BT-AS battle.

http://hpics.li/144e435
http://hpics.li/d576687

Centrix.4065:

Why would it matter if there were non-EU players on EU servers?

For obvious reasons of equity and fairplay in WvW.
We are on EU ladder, it’s not multi-timezone like US ladder. That’s why this timezone problem does not exist their homes but here.
A person who joined friends is acceptable, but an massive migration that has the sole purpose of crushing easily the T1 is not.

Jomg.9061:

-Vs population is young, 15-25, lot’s of student

I saw that you’re on AS, and i’m not fully agree, we have lot’s of student but the average age on teamspeak is about 25 or even 30 years old.

Nidhogg.2950:

Appears that next week will see another national server in T1, the Germans this time. I dont know if Vizunah has Canadians or not(never fought them) but I’m pretty sure the Germans dont have any overseas allies that speak the same language,.

The closest would be several Dutch and as a rule they dont team up that well with the Germans :-p

Should be interesting to see how that goes next week, hope to see less accusations of hacking/cheating though. Every server seems to have hackers, even the lower tier ones. Best to report and move on, hope that they will get banned.

Had loved to see Blacktide fight both Elona and Vizunah but that doesnt seem likely :-(
Dont know Seafarers all that well.

Good luck to all though! and Blacktide, once Xaoc and RG get back Im sure youll rise again!

It will be an honor to fight a legitimate server in T1 again, welcome back guys !

tita.6358:

proof of canadians on VS + high pop at night!
screenshot of our teamspeak server at 5 AM

Photoshopped !
Well, 19 ppl multimap, so for all borderlands.
We told you, only one zerg who switch map constantly. You still have a lot to learn from us SFR. NEXT !

tagnut.8621:

The real irony being Viz are the biggest nightcappers out – seems they don’t like any form of challenge or their own medicine.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/Blacktide-Vizunah-Square-Seafarer-s-Rest/page/10#post1081776
Next.

Eccentric.3649:

Vizunah needs to quit their yapping about NA guilds. Anet approves of it and seeing as they made the game you really should just go with it.

I saw the topic about nightcapping but not on intercontinental migration, you have the link, it interests me. Thx !

Phoebe Ascension.8437:

At the same time vizu has more players then ever. I’ve have an eye for zerg numbers, and they increased a lot. Is this a Coincidance? Nope. AS transfered to Vizu. Stop hiding in lies.

It’s holidays, no one can confirm that. But it would be a pleasure because they are EU.
(Let me be clear, i have nothing against Americans players, but they have their ladder… One day, if ArenaNet creates a international ladder.)

Chiolas.1326:

Qwixx.5923:

Misslol.9741:

Qwixx.5923:

Our 24/7 zerg is legitimate, because it is composed of EU players only. Seriously, shame on SFR if you do not stay 1st all weeks.

Please stop trolling with this.. What is the distinction between a different time zone player and a nolife nightcapper (no offence here it’s only to make it clear) that plays the same time on a 24/7 server?
Is the jobless or nolifer player time much worth than the others or what?
If the nightcap is legit so is the different time coverage…if it Is not so let’s go on with all the other crap about u noskilldroids are only a 200zerg that steamroll everything and die as mobs where in same numbers etc etc

Because a person doesn’t replace six. Our hours of night not a substitute for a primetime even if we have good presence.
It is not a question of numbers, but a question of equity and fairplay relative to local timezone of EU ladder.

Could you stay in T1 on a single timezone ?
The answer is no, you have so nothing to do in T1 EU. Other legit server wait to move up.
It is you who are in wrong, does not give us the fault.

Who died and named you boss? Why are you the one to decide what “legit” is?

That’s my point of view on equity and fairplay, people are free to participate.

Misslol.9741:

Qwixx.5923:

Our 24/7 zerg is legitimate, because it is composed of EU players only. Seriously, shame on SFR if you do not stay 1st all weeks.

Please stop trolling with this.. What is the distinction between a different time zone player and a nolife nightcapper (no offence here it’s only to make it clear) that plays the same time on a 24/7 server?
Is the jobless or nolifer player time much worth than the others or what?
If the nightcap is legit so is the different time coverage…if it Is not so let’s go on with all the other crap about u noskilldroids are only a 200zerg that steamroll everything and die as mobs where in same numbers etc etc

Because a person doesn’t replace six. Our hours of night not a substitute for a primetime even if we have good presence.
It is not a question of numbers, but a question of equity and fairplay relative to local timezone of EU ladder.

Could you stay in T1 on a single timezone ?
The answer is no, you have so nothing to do in T1 EU. Other legit server wait to move up.
It is you who are in wrong, does not give us the fault.

Ardrin.7491:

Congrats on the VS mesmer cheating right now on bt garrison (guild Double Face if i remember correctly), who went up from a zone where you are unable to walk,(south mountains near the gate) then porting in frenchies… GG guys, really. GG. Losers. Reported obviously.

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/132/gw010a.jpg/

Wooden wall ?
I’m sure it’s just a hid mesmer (there a hiding place at right).

velestra.9415:

but please vs stop whining about one usa guild when u guys got 24/7 zerg even on xmas, believe you got maps covered and one small guild doesnt disturb your zerg.

It’s not a simple guild, they are more than 200 players (http://prx-guild.com/about-prx/team), and i do not know if FoH (180 + ppl) is counted… then there is the RU & EU guilds…
Our 24/7 zerg is legitimate, because it is composed of EU players only. Seriously, shame on SFR if you do not stay 1st all weeks.

Centrix.4065:

Vizunah has like 75% of the maps atm and BT and SFR are about equal in points. Seems like France doesn’t celebrate Christmas…?

There are barely any BT and SFR online, yet I still see massive amounts of VS players steamrolling the maps lol

Our thousand french canadians hebrews doesn’t celebrate Christmas indeed.
They made a special operation @695 income while you eat your christmas turkey.

MoonSpell.4512:

http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/7949/scores.jpg

Dremora.5390:

1 US guild with ~20 active players is sooooooo powerful boost within the framework a server. But they are realy good command and coordinate pugs on EB (only EB).

http://www.rerolled.org/showthread.php?192-Guild-Wars-2-Server-Seafarer-s-Rest-%28EU%29&p=1806&viewfull=1#post1806
“This combination has been wildly successful as we’ve had over 180 posters from FoH join our ranks (PRX), but there’s still room for more.”

Dyno.9467:

Lol VS complain about everything, the number 1 EU server for WvW (overall) and they still moan, even if a server beats them they have an excuse.

Keep it up and servers will let you play in there yourselves

One last thing, it is YOU who have made a covenant multi-mainland to crush the T1, and you whining about our legendary “French Canadians” (they must laugh about you on Jade Quarry) additional to an alliance with Blacktide… And it is not limited to a few isolated cases on this forum, but until your officers… It’s upside-down world !
http://prx-guild.com/news/articletype/articleview/articleid/152/seafarers-rest-takes-the-title-and-our-51st-victory

Thereupon, merry christmas everyone.

Mortix.9725:

Okamy.8235:

Merry christmas everyone. I hope SFR enjoy PvDoor on christmas. No queue at 11pm on EB, i never saw this.

2012-12-25 08:04:02 118 262 +525
2012-12-25 07:38:18 116 974 +480
2012-12-25 07:19:09 116 310 +510
2012-12-25 05:22:15 112 376 +405
2012-12-25 03:13:48 107 599 +355

so much for Christmas on Vizunah.

smitske.4912:

Gotte love these frenchies whining about pvDooring, 1) its a valid strategy, 2) the only reason VS is T1 is because you guys are the masters of PvD, if you are honest you have to admit you win because you have a lot of people in night time to PvDoor, not because you have more skill than other servers.

I wont say VS is total crap at day, but they aren’t great either, but there is no denying VS is the server with the best night capacity at the moment and that is why you are where you are, so don’t sneer others for PvDooring while your server is numero 1 at that.

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If you watch the “CET” (local time of EU ladder), VS has a good nightcapping.
But now if you take into account the “EST” for your US players and “MSK” for your RU players, you can deduce that SFR is all the times on primetimes and nightcapping periods.
So stop blaming us for it. :]

US primetime: US EST 6pm to 12am (CET 00H00-06H00/03H00-09H00).
2012-12-22 10:22:53 10 687 +175
2012-12-22 04:17:05 5 075 +315
2012-12-22 03:37:34 4 181 +360
2012-12-22 02:57:31 2 776 +380
2012-12-22 02:21:41 1 746 +325

US nighttime: US EST 12am to 6am (CET 06H00-12H00/09H00-15H00).
2012-12-22 15:56:26 18 292 +305
2012-12-22 13:51:17 14 845 +270
2012-12-22 13:01:35 13 510 +240
2012-12-22 12:37:05 13 061 +245
2012-12-22 11:03:48 11 212 +135
2012-12-22 10:22:53 10 687 +175
2012-12-22 04:17:05 5 075 +315

RU primetime: RU MSK 6pm to 12am (CET 15H00-21H00).
2012-12-22 21:21:58 26 947 +325
2012-12-22 20:41:33 25 675 +330
2012-12-22 20:00:21 24 452 +290
2012-12-22 19:26:42 23 683 +275
2012-12-22 17:56:12 21 278 +330
2012-12-22 16:39:49 19 915 +200
2012-12-22 15:56:26 18 292 +305

RU nighttime: RU MSK 12am to 6am (CET 21H00-03H00).
2012-12-23 04:07:57 35 492 +95
2012-12-23 01:53:03 32 942 +215
2012-12-23 00:54:12 31 842 +200
2012-12-22 22:34:14 28 565 +220
2012-12-22 21:21:58 26 947 +325

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And that’s not counting the EU players which are in majority.
Infact i do wonder one thing, how you made for have less than 50K point lead on us, “the noobs french frogs”.

What is the relation between Canada and Vizunah ?

Random People.4629:

Since we’re doing screenshots, Vizunah Mesmer inside SM walls, check.

Maybe a bug, the other day i fell under the map, i could go everywhere…
http://hpics.li/4ee9661 (obviously i’ve reported the bug).

Anyway, we do countless of tp mesmer, do not forget to check your castles.

Erostrate.4326:

tagnut.8621:

S’funny. SFR goes to sleep some time after midnight a couple of thousand ahead and wakes up to find viz have a 10K lead.

That plus calling in reinforcements from other servers plus the spies – not a lot of respect for Viz atm…..

Nightcap is part of the game since day 1. Yes, it’s boring when you wake up with a full map controled by the ennemy, but rules are the same for everyone. It’s a 24/7 game.

Reinforcements ? Tell me one new guild tag. Myself, I can tell you many guild which migrated to BT or SFR during previous weeks or months. It’s part of the game , free transfers. So stop whine.

Why is there always drama in these thread, whatever the server.
Anyway.

I’m enjoying fights atm, even if BT and SFR seems to have more people in christmas holidays than VS. Last night, PRX crew were much smaller than they used to be.

I was a PUG some hours ago in a fight around the south camp in SFR BL, MORT against OSC were really fun to see.
MORT won most fights , mostly with very nice portal bombing, but were wiped in the end because they were too splited (maybe they went back to fight again, but I was not there). Too bad I don’t know how to film because it was amazing fights.

Nightcap is part of the game since day one with EU players on EU ladder, this is totaly fair.
But where is the fairplay when EU server fight against US/EU/RU server ?

Saviolakos.6473:

with their 50 (in all maps LOL) chuck norris crew..

Yes exactly, we know you not mastered the multimap. :>

tita.6358:

Chiolas.1326:

I think the real issue here is the threat of the Xmas mobs: https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/im-very-tired-of-it/first#post1070284

or players assaulting a door when a wall 10 meters from them has already been down for 20 minutes

there are noobs on all servers.

They abandoned 5 golems in a wooden tower this morning… <3

tagnut.8621:

Just lots of unemployable french nightcappers instead. Good ole VS – zerging and sulking since day 1.

Rayya.2591:

but, with 250 + players coverage for 24/7

We are approximately 50 players for all maps. This is the night for everyone, we do not benefit others timezones which are in primetime.

Minfast.5489:

VS deserve the most respect as a server. They have maintained their T1 status from week 1 and continue to push for T1 victories. Their achievements far outweigh yours.

and this without any external assistance by US/RU players.
:>

Getting many americans players on a UE ladder is also a form of cheat compared to the other servers.

Sjaakie.1470:

Why is the French server complaining about nightcapping, their French Canadian squad does exactly the same, just now they got a few times spanked with their pants on and start to cry. now 3.30 am in Europ and look howmuch they have online :’)

/Tissue VS

Only french players at night (local server 12pm-7am). We haven’t one canadian on vizunah, we tried to recruit them but they prefer stay on US servers.
But please guys, do not forget that you are on UE ladder, we are on a single timezone while you are on three major (US/EU/RU).
If we takes into account the local time of the server, this is indeed SFR the king of the nightcapping.
Sorry for my pitiful english… when french as international language ?