Guild Wars 2

Faith in Humanity, restored.

GvG in WvW is bad in some situations but acceptable since there is no GvG system.

IMO they should release Guild Halls with an open field Arena like in GW1 (an instanced area restricted to the guilds, “their house”) where each guild could invite other Guild to their home to fight. This being only for fun/training and bragging purposes, no rewards attached. At the same time they should tweak WvW as much as possible, making it the main focus of the game, so everyone can play, solo players, small guilds, big guilds.

That is what i think would be best for us and the game…

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wow, SFR really have replaced VS on the forum o_o[/quote]

No1 replaces anyone, this is my opinion, i don´t even speak for the server, but i don´t wanna read some bullkitten and leave it without answer. Then let people think whatever they want.

Jackie.1829:

Hebril Amolebin.9817:

Wow you crying?!! backstabbing us whole night pushing always the same time when vz pushed.. or what? you took hills while vz was pushing Bay with their zerg….. gg
Then stormed garrison with golems? while we were in bay,instead of targeting t1 bay you go for t3 garrison and then cry? It was epic hold and we stopped it.
I have to give it to votf do epic amount of necros… This is your new setup a lot of necros eles with some guardians and mesmers?
I was fun we won few and lost few,once osc came at least we had the numbers to fight even vs both zergs on our map….

Backstabbing? What would you like us to do? We loaded into the map and everything is green, 3 keeps ALL with waypoints. Tell me about how hard you worked for those waypoints and didnt just pvdoor your way there? lol. So how did we backstab? By going for the keep on our side of the map? What would you have us attack? Nothing?

I can assure you, if the hills is paper thin, we can take it off your whole server if we want, the only reason you could even hold garrison after was because of waypoint spamming and banner ressing the lord for a whole 10 minutes before you finally managed to push us out. If we didnt have to fight vs t3 keeps every kitten day it would be a lot more entertaining.

I have respect for SFR, I played on the server and I liked the people there. But its always the same thing in t1 WvW, wake up to upgraded keeps and then people complain when you take them back lol

We also run warriors, thieves, engis and a sprinkle of rangers. Its almost like the game forces you to play 1 of 8 classes or something :S

No1 works hard to upgrade Keeps, they upgrade themselves since BW1;
No1 upgrades camps to give double supply, you just ask whatever number and worker will give it to you;
No1 escorts dolyaks, they escort themselves;
No1 builds siege, a plane drops them by parachute and they insta-build.

Dolyaks/supply camps are the small scale stuff in this game, not everyone runs a 20+ guild to clash with others. People work hard to get upgraded stuff because they know it gives you some advantage when prime-time comes, unfortunately the guilds that take advantage of that, are not the ones that escort, it is the few good pugs we got, i wish we had more.

I am sure it would be a lot more entertaining for you to attack paper stuff, we could also pretend to fight and give you a lot of bags, just for the sake of your entertainment!

Look, i have already said this once i will say it again, you should be asking Anet to implement GvG, WvW IS NOT GvG. People that use siege weapons and upgrade Keeps are not playing the game wrong.

Also, if you care so much about disrupting supplies, how come i only see 2 VotF (usually with other guild zerg), or 25+ ? All come online at the same time ? Why no groups of 5 to kill dolyaks/camps ? You come here to complain but you don´t do what has to be done to attack less upgraded Keeps.

I totally understand your GvG fun mentality, i do, but don´t throw at us we are being lame to play the game as it is meant to be played atm. If much throw it at Arenanet for not having the GvG system (WvW is not GvG!)

Anatolian Turk.4057:

As a deso player i like Vizunah more than SFR because they dont whine on the forums. Before SFR joined tier 1 couple of weeks ago our t1 forums were free from trolls. Now all i see people mostly from SFR side calling out names and talking non sense.

I rather have VS in tier 1 then SFR.

Don´t worry mate, soon you will be in another thread. All good.
But i see trolls from everyone tbh, you get used to it.

Dyno.9467:

REAL.7483:

Dyno.9467:

ilmau.9781:

Deso guys, really, what s wrong with you? O_o

it s been 12 hours u basically attack only us.
u even lost a T3 Anza to relentless push on a T1 Klovan. while VZ were attacking SM
(u even didn t capped)

u playing really bad those days.
I’m disappointed

If it wasnt for getting Piken Square guilds you wouldnt even be here

You seem kinda kitten mate, i hope T2 brings peace to your soul…

Tier 2 ok been there before, PS guilds are the only reason your good atm, your original guilds are tier 2-3 standard

I take that as a compliment to our community, our guilds are T2-T3 and we been in T1 for a long time, not to say we win T2 easily without Piken Guilds. Thank you kind sir, our community appreciates. Guilds don´t make a server by themselves, i think Piken Square is the best example, your case is also pretty obvious. Either your members play outside guild raids as a whole or all you get is few hours of domination and then you are dead.

Dyno.9467:

ilmau.9781:

Deso guys, really, what s wrong with you? O_o

it s been 12 hours u basically attack only us.
u even lost a T3 Anza to relentless push on a T1 Klovan. while VZ were attacking SM
(u even didn t capped)

u playing really bad those days.
I’m disappointed

If it wasnt for getting Piken Square guilds you wouldnt even be here

You seem kinda kitten mate, i hope T2 brings peace to your soul…

VS spirit no more. Bangwagon VS inc! Bring them guilds!

I want to say this blob discussion is kitten but w/e. If you want to blob then do it, if you don´t want to then don´t, but don´t come here to cry because others do and got results with that. Every server blobs now and then and there is no fking problem with that (besides lag). If you want GvG go blame Anet for not having it ingame yet.

This being said, from my everyday experience in SFR i get kitten because we split in 2/3 raids most times. Results ? We can´t take anything against other servers because they got the so called “blobs” defending. Sometimes we even fail to defend our objectives because we don´t have a nice “blob”, and commanders wipe in different timings etc.

Dyno.9467:

If Deso could match SFR and VS numbers through the 7 days we would hammer these 2 servers

But you can´t, because if you need 20 men guild to do w/e in any border, good luck in tier 2. No server holds without PUGS, count the guilds (quality and quantity) in Piken Square Vs Seafarer’s Rest in previous matchups, and guess who won ? Because Piken literally had no activity besides guild raids. You need WvW community to do big part of the job, why do you think VS holding T1 with 90% pugs ? Now if you combine Guilds + Community, you got a winning server like ours. Even with all our flaws tho.

Don´t forget, do some CoF runs untill Guild Raid starts!

We win because we got Assyl. I hope his love for Daisy doesn´t make him get of the trail tho.

Xispeo.1706:

Domo.7618:

Battlelog:

- Vizunah send about 5 players on the SFR borderland and let them cap SFR-supply camps.
- Right after they tap it, they started to build a golem in the camp and port it to ther spawn
-about 30min later when they had about 10 golems ready at spawn, they called so many people as possible to the SFR map and started to rush a T3 bay with 10 golems and about 30+ players (couldt count all because of the lag)
- the SFR bay gates melt down like butter, also because we didnt had that large of numbers to defend at this time.
- After they tap the bay, they ported the Golems back and took Hills quick after (well hills was only a T1 keep)

Ive seen this (so called)“tactic” o_O not the first time by Vizunah, and its one of the main ressons why I disrespekt Vizunah. They always go the way with the least resistance and talking about “fair fights”…

This is what SFR does as well, bus swaping between maps to go where nobody is.
I see this all the time when there is no waiting queue.
In fact we adapt to your playstyle, which is very much based on that.
And that bus chasing between maps is so common that I wonder why the hell you complain about it.
You hate others doing what you do on your own ?

You do what has to be done, specially in offtimes, and that is increase your PPT as much as possible. You got good organization for that and that is why you tick 400 and we 150, ORGANIZATION. Coming here to cry about that seems kinda lame, you don´t even have much more people, just manage them efficiently. Keep doing that, maybe someday we adapt instead of crying. GZ for organization.

ok, then it probably was that rune thx

I know this doesn´t prove kitten, but i swear this warrior used mist form at 5% HP when he was about to die, then i aggroed guards and he killed me. Don´t know if it is just some modified animation for another skill, but i swear i saw the mist form animation, hacks or not, its weird.

http://tinypic.com/r/jhfrrs/6

IRON do you force your people to contest Garrison 24/7 ? what the hell… We always have scouts at that time, we don´t need garrison WP to defend our towers and you don´t even try Garrison! You are just being annoying come on… Let your people enjoy the game!

This won´t be a problem, after 1/2 weeks after buying commander and using it people realize their reputation is at stake, so people naturally turn it off when they don´t think it is worth it. In some cases they still don´t, but with time they will.
In SFR happens more the opposite, we have commanders but no1 wants to lead through chat, because it is harsh to lead pugs through it. So in WvW it won´t be a problem. As for PvE idc.

Something wrong with Vizunah, it is morning and don´t see them anywhere….

ultranawak.7183:

Junkpile.7439:

REAL.7483:

Pure Gold is what VS is doing on Saturday after reset.
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/191/vszoomhacking.jpg/

They even put swords at Wurm before they rush Bay, so bad….
You guys are digging deeper everyday.

They use arrow cart spec. That’s why they lose every open field fight.

Yeah cauz you don’t use any Arrow cart, isn’t it ?

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/515/gw071j.jpg/

What does one thing has to do with another ? You were zoomhacking, we simply had Hills full of ACs like i have never seen in the past months, it was actually good to see.

Yes, skill lag is total game breaking. It is not your problem most likely.

Because when they launched WvW i bet they thought it would be a casual thing, so it has much from PvE. But no, it is not for casuals anymore, most WvW players do 95% of WvW so they should change some things.

1 – Put mobs friendly, so they are still in the environment but don´t slow people or cause random swords.

2- Can´t really complain about repair costs, the amount of gold one makes in WvW is more than enough. But we should definitely have a system like sPvP where you can switch to an alt and try it at max lvl without grinding PvE….

Pure Gold is what VS is doing on Saturday after reset.
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/191/vszoomhacking.jpg/

They even put swords at Wurm before they rush Bay, so bad….
You guys are digging deeper everyday.

Was a fun week and i am definitely looking for more. Thx VS and Deso.
But… the skilllag when 40v40 happens is HORRIBLE, i hope this changes next week, total game breaking for me… no fun.

Remove
Outmanned
Buff

No point in the fact that enemies can see when you are outmanned!

It is totally kitten that the servers that are against you can see if you are outmanned.
There is nothing wrong with the outmanned, but with the fact that enemies can see it.

Sombike.6291:

If you are not opening your map every 10 seconds then you are playing WvW wrong anyway …
Good change, i approve

Heh…. it is exactly the opposite, now map gives less info, if you want to scout you must stay all the time inside structures, if you run after u see white swords it might be too late.

I am opening map all the time and i miss the information the other used to give.

As being one of those who doesn´t mind to do the “dirty job” now and then, i hate this change. Why ?

Because now the scouting must be much more static, you can´t read the map because there are no yellow swords, Ex: i used to see orange swords approaching something and i was the first one to arrive to actually give the accurate info. Now if i want to scout something i must be there 24/7, it is not that funny.

Besides my game play being worse, leechers gonna leech and follow the karma train, they simply don´t care.

For me a 10/15 limit would be better tbh.

Can´t wait for Anet to introduce Guild Halls with some Arena for Guilds to invite each other and do GvG. No point seeing guilds going GvG when we are so close of winning a matchup. WvW should be to help the server winning and fighting whatever opponent, not to be looking for GvGs. But can´t rly blame it on guilds since we got nothing close to that.

IMO WvW should be the place for Guilds + Rest of Community to fight other servers and GvG the occasionally “I am better than you” events. That´s how i think it should be.

We can´t beat Vizunah with the influx of people we got.. wait WHAAAAT !?
Even with tactical mistakes all week we did it, i am surprised myself ROFL! Was fun tho.

PS: VOTF Y U DO THAT TO MY HILLS YESTERDAY! Was it because i said u didn´t use Golems when you left ? kitten i apologize! Well played

Account
Bound
Please

I am still waiting for Siege weapons and Karma to be account bound, some things in the game are total nonsense. You can´t switch Siege Weapons across your alts but you can give them to anyone (including opposite server, by dropping them!). Karma is soulbound but yet the Karma from Orr jewelery boxes and Obsidian Shards you buy are account bound, aswell as gifts for legendary!? I can´t salvage Karma gear to remove an expensive rune i put on it !?

Seems many things in this game haven´t any solid reason to be the way they are, they just are.

Would be a good time to stop all the Character Bound/Account Bound war and make EVERYTHING Account Bound!

This post was made by me few days ago:
“I am from Seafarer’s Rest and i want to say i respect Vizunah Square. Your organizantion and your dedication made you an uncontested top1 server the way the WvW meta-game is atm.

People complain that you don´t leave your nests but they fail to realize you are essentially a bunch of organized pugs. It is pretty obvious after 2/3 wipes a pug commander won´t lead his followers to slaughter time after time.

This beeing said, there are 2 sides we can assume:

1- Be happy with 2nd place and ask ArenaNet to incentive more the open fight (which wouldn´t be bad);
2- Adapt, get organized and take advantage of our stronger fighting and combine it with smart sieging.

Sadly people tend to ignore number 2 and bash on you.

Wish you all a lot of fun, for this week, and the upcoming weeks ;]"

Hoping we were gna have some fun T1 next week and now i see this ?
Man you just got 1 more VS hater… Clap, Clap…

If you decide to spend badges, just buy SIEGE WEAPONS. I am pretty sure the server you are on will appreciate that. Try not to waste 100 on Golem, rather have lots of Arrow carts/Ballistas/Rams/Catapults/some Trebs.

Oeps Rolls Necro.2594:

REAL.7483:

This beeing said, there are 2 sides we can assume:

1- Be happy with 2nd place and ask ArenaNet to incentive more the open fight (which wouldn´t be bad);
2- Adapt, get organized and take advantage of our stronger fighting and combine it with smart sieging.

Sadly people tend to ignore number 2 and bash on you.

Wish you all a lot of fun, for this week, and the upcoming weeks ;]

Ah, you sound like a very smart sfr guy. We on Deso would love to go for point 2.
But please tell me how to stop 40 vs zerglings + a kittenload of golems in the morning when there is NOONE to fight because we are all working/school.

PS. Looks like you have to wait some more weeks.

1 – 40 VS + Golems against noone ? You can´t stop that with noone. But you can stop 2/3 golems or RAMs with few arrow carts.

2- I play a lot more than you think, including against VS, and i can tell you sometimes us (you also perhaps) lack people because there is no organized stuff going on, so people just enter the border and instantly log out. And i truly believe we (you perhaps) potentialy have the people to play.

3- This beeing said there is only 1 way to beat Vizunah without huge Guild coverage 24/7, and that is to have what they have (pugs organized on TS), or multi-guild raids in the offtimes which seems easier, but still requires ppl to commit.

Have fun

I am from Seafarer’s Rest and i want to say i respect Vizunah Square. Your organizantion and your dedication made you an uncontested top1 server the way the WvW meta-game is atm.

People complain that you don´t leave your nests but they fail to realize you are essentially a bunch of organized pugs. It is pretty obvious after 2/3 wipes a pug commander won´t lead his followers to slaughter time after time.

This beeing said, there are 2 sides we can assume:

1- Be happy with 2nd place and ask ArenaNet to incentive more the open fight (which wouldn´t be bad);
2- Adapt, get organized and take advantage of our stronger fighting and combine it with smart sieging.

Sadly people tend to ignore number 2 and bash on you.

Wish you all a lot of fun, for this week, and the upcoming weeks ;]

Don´t agree much, so you need to have a stable force to win, instead of huge guild raids (zerg fests) on weekends to win, no problem in that. As per the tight scores on the first days, ofc, we all start from 0 and have decent amount of players across all servers.

I think this isn´t the WvW problem, im from Seafarer’s Rest and i have seen comebacks during the week, including an epic win against VS on the last few hours of the match. If you lose moral than your server ain´t strong enough and doesn´t deserve to comeback, simple.

I am from Portugal and i am having having a similar issue.
Basically WvW (and one CoF run too) is unplayable, too many skill lag, like if i had a high ping, except that my internet connection is fine and i don´t lag in LA or other explorable areas like Gendarran Fields or Fireheart Rise…

Basically im in LA and it is all good, i jump to WvW portal and it is a disaster…

Too bad, because i do 99,9% of WvW and it is unplayable atm… Started today morning if i am not mistaken..

I have been experiencing a weird lag since today morning.
All started in WvW, it feels like i have really high ping (delay casting skills 90% of time), but speedtest says my connection is fine and i don´t have any delay in Lions Arch or Gendarran Field or any other Explorable Area it seems. I also hag lag doing CoF run 100% of the time…

Any idea what is causing this ? Any1 else same problem? It isn´t my internet conection…

I feel like WvW has a lot of potential if they keep working on it.
I really think their initial idea of casual WvW is not there anymore, Vistas, Pois, regular mobs that slow ppl down, gathers is totally worthless beeing there, here is two small suggestions for now:
1 – Make all mobs friendly just for the esthetic purposes;
2- If you are going to keep changing the PvE gear stats, make a system similar to sPvP, doesn´t make sense that competitive WvW players have to grind or wait so they can get the best gear ingame…

WvW isn´t for casuals anymore, no one goes there to gather or kill mobs like in the beginning of the game, it is made for competitive group PvP, combat wise and in a tactical way.

Cheers