Guild Wars 2

Personally I would have Traits – NPE- Crafting lack of cost benefit – WvW aswell

Some of these don’t have much ‘action’ on the main Forum but they are ‘big’ issues overall in the game for forum contributors:

WvW is stuck in a holding pattern, I miss the orbs myself, it needs a refresh/new map/mechanics…

Crafting – I really don’t think people who don’t want Ascended are in any way encouraged to craft, it shouldn’t cost me 5 silver to make a lvl 40 food buff that sells for 3copper…

NPE – it desperately needs a Veteran opt out at the least

Traits – almost nobody LIKEA this change – it needs to revert or be revamped

Every time I see Gaile Grey or another CM having a throw away casual conversation about nothing of importance ( recently some Sylvari NPC outfit) and I think of the complete lack of even BASIC response to this thread – I lose my mind…

Ive never played any Dungeons and wasn’t playing when Living story changed to repeatable episodes – and haven’t really used LFG atall – some abbreviations I ‘get’ and have found looking for other threads on this but most of the groups that pop up on Living story which also seem to include the World Bosses are confusing me:

Is there anywhere that has a Glossary that ive missed? what does ’part 1 for eg mean in Living story? the whole of episode 1? Does SW 80% mean the Breach?

Thanks

chemiclord.3978:

Rococo.8347:

Doing a quick bit of maths, comparing the price of an expansion to the price of buying Living story episodes – if you added up all the episodes of one and two( yes I know you cant buy season 1 but this gives an idea of output over 2 years) excluding all the festivals it comes to about 23 episodes.

Episodes cost £2.13 each so £48.99 for all the content released over 2 years which is about the time frame for an expansion release o Wow’s expansion is currently shipping for £27.99 for most likely a darn sight more content than the LS has given…

I know which I would prefer..

The problem with that is much of that content in WoW was “endgame raiding”, which less than 5% of the player base would ever actually see at the time it was relevant. It really was a horribly inefficient model, which is why now you see “Looking for Raid” difficulty.

It’s easy to SAY, “I want WoW Expansion-like content.” It’s a little more difficult to fit it into GW2’s model without kittening off a LOT of people.

Remember the rage when Arena.net added ONE tier of gear? Try selling those people on the traditional raid model that was the backbone of WoW expansion content. I’ll bring the squeegie to mop up what’s left of you.

Make no mistake, there’s nothing wrong with asking, “Where’s the content?” But it’s not something you can just point at another game and say, “Do it like that!” Even pointing back to GW1 is kinda problematic (GW1 was actually a pretty linear game with some very narrow progression, it’s exponentially harder to capture that same essence in an open world).

Much of Wow content ISNT just end game raiding – that’s where all the beardy BIS addicts and GS queens are hanging out but I happily played wow on and off for 6 years whilst only having 2 very brief raiding experiences yet I had a tonne to do and considered the xpacs worth the money.

You just arnt understanding my point unfortunately -when I compare the cost and amount of content released and find GW2 wanting that doesn’t mean I WANT raiding and horizontal gear progression – I just want MORE content more areas and I don’t see why for the cost GW2 is charging to replay LS they cant just pony up and produce something that is BIGGER than whay we have been given.

Teon.5168:

Rococo.8347:

Doing a quick bit of maths, comparing the price of an expansion to the price of buying Living story episodes – if you added up all the episodes of one and two( yes I know you cant buy season 1 but this gives an idea of output over 2 years) excluding all the festivals it comes to about 23 episodes.

Episodes cost £2.13 each so £48.99 for all the content released over 2 years which is about the time frame for an expansion release o Wow’s expansion is currently shipping for £27.99 for most likely a darn sight more content than the LS has given…

I know which I would prefer..

But then again, if you log in for all of 30 seconds max around the time a new chapter in the LS is released, you pay nothing at all…..which makes your entire argument a moot point.

Well – you arnt even understanding my basic argument then – im making a financial comparison as best I can between the two and decising which I think is best value for money and which I prefer…

what about people like me who work in places they have no Internet for long periods? or people who God forbid only buy the game at a later point? or people who want to play LS on characters created AFTER the particular LS episode? I could go on…

Doing a quick bit of maths, comparing the price of an expansion to the price of buying Living story episodes – if you added up all the episodes of one and two( yes I know you cant buy season 1 but this gives an idea of output over 2 years) excluding all the festivals it comes to about 23 episodes.

Episodes cost £2.13 each so £48.99 for all the content released over 2 years which is about the time frame for an expansion release o Wow’s expansion is currently shipping for £27.99 for most likely a darn sight more content than the LS has given…

I know which I would prefer..

The best way to understand traits is to experience them in game, not reading a tool tip, not reading a guide and certainly not being gated on an essential part of game play.

I should be able to randomly mix up my traits from the choice of ALL the traits to learn what they do, as I have done with my Grandfathered character.

Whilst i applaud no longer having to schlep to Lions Arch to retrain and paying for it – making it difficult/expensive/overly time consuming/forcing particular play to learn what traits do by PLAYING them is just plain wrong.

Levelling a non grandfathered and grandfathered character at the same time is a real eye opener…

It wont be changed folks – go searching for locked threads with Dev comments in them, it seems pretty clear that this will never be looked at again – I would love to tell you where to look but im not allowed…

There is a simple solution that doesn’t even involve getting creative with the way they build maps – just stop being so monumentally tight fisted with loot in general in the game, especially armour skins

- of course people fall over themselves like a 19th century Gold Rush when everything that could constitute ease of aquiring or god forbid a small bit of farming is either nerfed, banned or removed and remonetised through the gem store.

People shouldnt have to level and park for example a level 50 JUST so they can have a fighting chance of collecting enough Linen to level a small section of crafting – and even then most of the time still get frikking silk.

All ive had drop for me at Amber is tonnes of mats I think are for ascended and Legendary which im not that bothered to do, more badges and a couple of exotics – I got bored within half an hour – even the OCD’ers will eventually – but this is on the GW2 economics team not us…

After starting this thread as I was going to be at work the majority of the day I only managed to open half my bags and buy from the vendor – and the Festival was over when I got home.

How hard would it be for Festivals to actually end at a SPECIFIC time? Halloween started at 11.40 pm GMT yet in ended sometime around 6 pm GMT – would it be so hard to NOT tie the end of the festival to the new patch? or you know leave the Vendor for 48 hours?

THATS what I find annoying – there is no way atall to plan and anticipate – I now have a kitten load of candy corn and only half the items I wanted bought…

Anyone know or could point me to confirmation that the Halloween Vendor will stick around after tomorrow? or should I get opening all my ToT bags now?

Thanks

Considering the EU didn’t even get the patch until 20 minutes before the end of patch day – I would like to think that we would be able to do everything until at least early evening.

But im bound to be wrong…

Why are you all avoiding the Traits thread Gaile? its been a ‘hot topic’ not off the front page for seven months…

Probably after they have dealt with the Butchered Personal Story thread and the roll back Traits changes thread in the Pve section.

The amount of times ive seen Dev’s asking for a consolidated thread on an issue driving the community mad – only to let that thread run for 50 plus pages and then say – oh its to much to take in can you do ANOTHER thread – only to then never deal with the issue even after saying they would…

well, lets say ive seen it a lot more than ive seen Exotics drop

-I used to say “Thank You,” whenever I get rezzed 100% of the time. Nowadays, it’s more like 50% of the time. The other 50% of the time, I feel terrible inside for not saying “ty.”

This ;D

And if its a choice of rezzing someone in one direction or going in the other and getting that verdant herb or omnomberry, the sickle always wins

Hey – no knocking Staff Ele! im a rubbish staff ele – truly awful yet I managed to 2 man the Grand High Viscount of Candy Corn last night with a Guardian – though it was abit of a button mash tbh.

Confession: ive broken up with my Engineer main purely because im sick and tired of kittenty medium armour choices how shallow can you get…

Ive never been so laden with porous bone with this level of luck I may even get a green drop soon.

If its anything like some of the work i’ve done that involves different teams it will be

Festival Developer: we don’t understand why it doesn’t work hardly anything has changed from last year with Halloween

LS Developer: you have been to Lions Arch this year right?

Festival Developer: kitten

Ive tried doing this ‘system’ whilst levelling my new Ele trying the ‘wander around the game technique’ and the result is she is now 80 with only 7 traits to her name.

Sod this and im not going to pay for Traits either when they are essential – im reduced to reviving my level 2 Ranger mule from when I started with a total makeover kit and 20 level scroll just to AVOID all of this.

I don’t even want to play a Ranger I wanted to roll a Necro…

Im bumping this as its happened two more times now and ive had no response either in game or on the forum..

I think it may be a Necro bug Neko ive been levelling a Ele and am getting abit more class profession drops than I used too.

I have noticed however that in the bag drops from Humanoids which should have a fair chance of cloth I almost never get it, making it hard to ‘farm’ cloth

They have ALOT of people working here in their Comms Department that are actually PR people – who like to produce word salads that have no actual meaning – they should go do some Political Campaigns they would fit right in.
NO proper comms person/journo would put out a definitve statement like that without quadruple checking that they knew what they were talking about.

3weeks of SFR – not that that’s new as im in Deso but when a large server like us is dealing with 3 times the amount of people against at 5 am I can only guess how it can be for the other servers.

Hi,

at first I thought maybe I was mistaken late last month when I got 6 bundled skill points on levelling and they didn’t add on to my monthly skill point achievement – but ive now seen it happen 2 more times – ive lost at least 19 skill points to this issue.

Skill points still accumulate on the achiev when they are:
Level 80 skill ups
Skill points from the open world

But so far none have worked when they are added in bulk – and seeing as me levelling is the quickest way to get them im not happy!

‘However, for you to name and shame our guild and call an entire server unfriendly judging by one anecdotal incident might be a bit of an overreaction.’

Whoa there – this is exactly the place to bring this type of issue up – obliquely siting ‘a largish Deso guild’ whilst allowing the discussion about attitudes to lower levels to happen would not have allowed your guild to look at this and decide what you’re guild policy is and make sure all your members KNOW what is acceptable behaviour.

So no I don’t think its naming and shaming as in purposely trying to make TEQ look bad. But thanks for the apology I passed it on.

Its fine – she didn’t buy the game and I don’t bother helping Deso anymore that much – its not worth the grief, im sure they have enough Guilds with 24 hour cover to beat SFR

’The character slots are not broken. ’

I never said they were – I DID say that I thought it was a pretty shanky case of classic bait and switch – I bet their precious ‘metics’ would tell then how much character slot buying increased after the adverts and blogs talking about now is the time to level again!, brand new improved levelling! – who buys character slots? mainly vets, certainly not some shiny new player (with 5 empty slots) – the sort that would be the ONLY recipient of the levelling changes ( and even then its questionable)

Don’t advertise to vets as you’re potential market to buy more slots for ‘brand new fun leveling’ IF in actual fact you’re levelling changes are geared to newbies.

Not so much as a friggin penny will drop from my wallet for this game from now on if that’s the attitude – if the patch wasn’t so bloody awful for vets then Dev’s wouldn’t be scrabbling to reverse some changes – which pretty much backs up my bait and switch argument.

Thankyou very much

Ive contacted them about this as it was not made clear atall pre patch that the levelling process was now geared to new players and highly gated – they had the cheek to reply telling me that I should learn to ‘exercise more care when making gem purchases’

If they cant ‘refund’ they could at least compensate – other than the ingame support tickets I sent is there nothing else I can do? because frankly I feel bloody ripped off and miss sold.

I have done about 20 champion bag type events in the last 3 days and only got bags for 5 – players ive definitely contributed towards killing have given me nothing and these are players in big zergs trying to get into the keep so they have been there a while and arnt on ‘cooldown’

Im not doing less damage than I was before so I just don’t get it, but 15 bags less is a BIG diference

Hi,

before I took my long break from the game matchups always used to be discussed here – ive seen the change to forum policy and being advised to ‘find places on the net’ to discuss wvw but having had a look around I can only find one place for my server and it wont let me access unless I sign up for an ‘enjin’ account. I presume this is like a steam, disqcus, station, type thing?

Im trying to keep being forced into signing up for things like this just to access a website to a minimum – if a website forces me to sign in through FB or twitter I just don’t use that website.

Is there somewhere online im missing for Deso?

Hello Gaile and Chris,

the main problem at the moment is a lack of definite info on what changes we currently see WERE part of the intended design.

You have a bunch of frustrated players that im sure are happy to help you bug search and look at future design changes – BUT at this point a lot of wasted energy is going into speculating about what may be bugs or intended and filling up the forum with issues that no one knows if they are bugs or not.

It would be much clearer easier and better for everyones mental health if you just produce a simple list of INTENDED changes to design. Then people can either make a quality of life comment on the design aspects they hate OR produce bug reports in the bug forum section – then you have a clear split of incoming info pre filtered for you and we all know what points to lobby on that we don’t like and what points will eventually be dealt with by the bug team.

Because at the moment im just not levelling atall or playing the PS as I have no idea what has changes forever, what CAN be changed back and what is a bug….

Clear communication is key!!

Vayne, im sure you are a nice guy but I have rarely in my many years of playing games and popping onto forums every now and then had to deal with someone with the level of condescension and need to police anything anti game that you have – ive just recently started checking the forums since the patch – you are on here ALL.THE.TIME.

If there isn’t a negative thread you decide to attempt to dismantle then you create your own, showering the community with your ‘well meant lessons in gaming’ which is really just a thin veil of passive aggressive behaviour and consummate know it allness. Its obsessive compulsive – yes you disagree with some of the observations people are making but you just cant stop yourself posting on every single one of these threads can you?

You don’t as far as I know work for GW2 so you don’t ‘know’ all these ‘facts’ you have apparently gleaned of exactly why GW2 does things a certain way – they are just your opinions, nothing more nothing less and certainly not the company responses people are looking for sometimes. Yes some mistakes were made by people assuming some bug issues that were not as bad as first claimed – you do not need to go around all day policing every new thread that may slightly veer into that territory.

Stop policing threads constantly and telling people their opinions are ‘wrong’ – you were on EVERY thread I read yesterday.

For me to make the effort to post this when I had to listen to 12 year olds freaking out in WOW constantly and didn’t get annoyed says a lot – you really need to reign in yourself in, it doesn’t matter how ‘calmly or nicely’ you are doing it – just dial it down please – you give adult gamers like me a bad name.

Am I safe to hot join some pvp matches and still stay in the queue?

Ok you both win ;D I was at 278 initially – but at least you haven’t had to queue TWICE!

See you both in there eventually – don’t beat me up I will be half asleep

lol!! I swear we need butlers for tournament week

See you in Deso sometime around 3 am – im 115…

What I don’t understand with GW2 management is the EXTREMES in the decisions they make -

take out a gazillion camps/dolacks/keeps in season 1 ( which I didn’t have the will to do even as a regular wvw player) oh you think that’s to much players? ok we will let you do 5 events…

over a whole week…

a 10th of the work you need to do for your daily…

Imagine how I feel – I spent almost 2 hours queued – got hungry waiting – nipped to make a sarnie and drink and got logged out despite leaving myself running into a wall

Hello,

hope this is the right place, im currenly unable to log in game to talk to support there regarding this. Ive returned after a 9 month break and after all the advertising for the ‘great new way to level’ in the patch on the 9th I decided to buy a couple of slots – I based that decision on this advertising.

Obviously levelling it turns out is a nightmare currently for vets and newbs alike but especially vets- there is no current timescale for when this will be sorted out ( if ever) and I feel because of this ive been persuaded to part with money I wouldn’t have had I known all of this – I just don’t want to level with things as they stand.

How do I go about asking for a refund?

Bless him for trying to ‘put the record straight’ im sure there is at least a smidgen of genuine feeling in there – but my many years working with PR and business types who love this sort of flagrantly opaque language makes me still small a rat.

First ‘common misconceptions’ arnt misconceptions if they are actually happening – which they are! Bugs if that is what hey are ruin game play – people complaining about ruined gameplay WHATEVER the reason are still enduring ruined gameplay.

You cant have it both ways,, if it was tested for a year then why are there so many ‘bugs’? Im now concerned that either they way they go about testing is incapable of rooting out issues, or anything that creates a massive furore is suddenly a ‘bug’ when it was designed to be that way, wasn’t this all rolled out in China 6 months ago?

Elite skills gating was an ‘oversight’? ive ran communication meetings and project managed – you are completely changing the way skills are accessed and the highest skill somehow gets forgotton about and just put at some random ( wrong) level? Note this was not referred to as a ‘bug’

‘That is at the end of the day, a win for all of us since all of you need more people to play with! ’
Maybe im alone here but im not feeling any shortage of people to play with – also concerned that ’retention’ only seems to apply to new players.

To be frank I only returned after a 9 month break a few weeks ago and right now im feeling pretty narked about paying out for 2 character slots to enjoy the supposed ‘fabulous new exciting leveling’

What GW1 like these days? I may give it a try.

salemfrost.4965:

If you really had that girl in your room at 4am and only thing you could invent was “let’s play video games” then I can assure you – one Desolation TEQ guild attitude isn’t the biggest of your problems pal.

Um we are both women – is that too hard a concept to get your head around ?

Thanks for the contributions so far but I need to bust some urban myths that have developed on this thread.

1. My friend wasn’t following a ‘closed guild raid’ at no point was she told it was one, the commander icon was on, a fair amount of people not from that guild were in the group – I was clear about all of this folks.
2. to the commenters saying not to play at ‘peak time’ if it was truly peak time she would have hit a que and there would have been more than one commander on the map.
3. Deso as I have previously pointed out was BUILT on PUG’s doing messy anarchic land grabs, it was fun and relaxed, all welcome – I don’t know why things have massively changed here – there should be at least one server in GW2 where people can go do wvw without a guild or with a casual grouping of casual guilds without someone clutching their pearls – Deso being the biggest population of mixed nationalities was that server – Deso when I was regularly playing had pretty much at one point NO guilds – we managed and yes it does irk me that I return to have some new upstart guildy get nasty with my newcomer friend – its not only put her off – its put me off.

She was in EB…..

Just to clarify – the group consisted of some TEQ and some freelancers/other guilds , at 4 am I don’t think you are likely to JUST have a guild group with all others unwelcome its the graveyard shift- I reffered to it as a TEQ group as that was where the crappy attitude came from rather than some other random….

and fluffball your example would require 45 people all in downed state at the same time which your group of 7 would not be able to take down anyway – with her running to the front to die. At least do me the favour of not making up ridiculous examples to justify telling a healer to kitten off at 4 am…

You are bang on Sir I really wish though that guild leaders would pull members to the kerb who harass like this – the TEQ group was pretty much the only action last night – a few scrubs hanging back wasn’t going to be a game breaker.

They all forget that Deso was built on PUG scrubs…lol

Yeah – I was going to say – its not always like this but because its been so long since I played I was unsure if that was the case! I remember the craziness of gearscore in wow when it kicked it…

Thanks for the invite Mighty – if she buys the game I will let her know

Up levels were in Deso ALL the time when I was there – she was careful only died twice in a couple of hours so no I don’t really buy the argument that she was a liability – she was healing for the love of god and staying out of trouble – that is not ‘devaluing the game’ for others atall.

Things have changed here a lot if that is the general consensus

I used to play GW2 a fair amount and did some of my levelling through wvw I was there when all the guilds abandoned Deso last year and left us guildless scrubs to battle through – it was fun if a tad disorganised, no one was EVER turned away. In all honesty I don’t even think Deso would be near the top of the wvw if it wernt for the large numbers PUG’s keeping it going through that time.

So I really disappointed to discover things have changed – a friend staying for the weekend asked if she could try out GW2 before she bought – as I don’t really play now I signed in to a lowish level character she wanted to try whilst I played something else and we chatted – she went to wvw – it was 4 am in the morning with very little action apart from a couple of groups, wanting to heal mainly she tagged along with a group to take down a garrison – she was summarily told by someone from TEQ to ‘stop following our group around with her crap uplevelled character’ she pointed out she was actually just following the action and learning how to heal.

Im sorry but I don’t think Guilds have any right to demand ownership of a game area like wvw – she wasn’t doing any harm and is now saying she is put off the game for the unfriendly attitude.

I don’t blame her, I think its a shame.

If you are saying there is no final boss loot I would be very surprised – and if that’s the case the fact I said – ‘its my first Dungeo’n should have maybe told you to just answer without the sarcasm added…

Please tell me this is a bug that will be fixed very very soon.

Ive just done my first Dungeon – Twilight Arbor, on the last boss after we had killed the four ‘underlings’ and were on the actual boss I died – obviously ide contributed throughout the whole fight and it was too late to WP and run back – I didn’t get a thing, not ONE piece of loot, nothing off the body, no chests – Nada.

Oooh please update us – I don’t know whether to give up and log…

Thx – I suspect unless its the same daily every day though, that the other options will be in the dungeon but haven’t seen anything for sure – would be good to know – guess I will in a few hours!