Guild Wars 2

Trick.9370:

“Vabbi also has contacts in Arberstone and Blacktide, so when FoW try and screw us over we get the zerg directed at FoW.”

I dont know how many Vabbi have the same mindset but this hurts FoW alot imho… I guess I just did not expect this from Vabbi and makes the matchup a bit more complicated. Will our matchup (Fow and Vabbi + third) be like who got the most friends on the winning server?

Well if some Vabbis have sunken so low by now that they enjoy winning against empty doors and by “directing the big green zerg” at FoW whenever it suits them and talking about a “pact” with FoW at the same time it’s one thing. It’s pathetic enough to read this on the forums. But don’t you ever start to think about doing the same for FoW. We are FoW after all and not Vabbi.

Well let’s see how long Vabbis new “night crew” from overseas enjoys taking empty towers and keeps all night long before they get bored senseless lol. I mean they don’t even get to fight anymore since they transfered to Vabbi.

more like +35 right now. Everything’s back to normal

You know the hypocrisy is what bothers me most about Vabbi. I don’t care whatsoever about your bloody BL. If I have to take a few camps to get my dailys I always go to green borderland because I find it the logical thing to do to hurt the strongest server in the match-up. All the while there is talk about a “pact” with Vabbi (about which none of the leaders of the main guilds were ever informed). I honestly don’t care about that pact since I’m too busy defending and upgrading our BL to care about Vabbi BL but then all of a sudden Vabbi sneaks in and takes advantage of us being hard pressed by Blacktide on the eastern side of the map. Why? Because some [York] guild took camps (obviously green anyway) in your BL?
But yeah, obviously it was [Jd]s fault again!
Sorry but that’s pathetic! On one hand you say you’d like to have a pact with FoW but in the same post you tell us about your “friends and contacts” in Blacktide and how you direct their zerg at us. Probably proposing a pact to them as well. I for one had enough of this Vabbian hypocrisy. Thus my initial post here in this thread.
I still don’t care enough about Vabbi to go to your borderland while we are actually able to achieve something in our BL but if I see a Vabbian anywhere he is dead.

Hey Vabbi.
Clever idea to take Bay while we were defending Hills from Blacktide. Also very clever to take Woodhaven and attack western garrison while Blacktide was pressing us kitten the eastern side.
Very clever except for the fact that we are now going to beat the living crap out of you until the rest of your days.
I heard talk about a “pact” with Vabbi. Well there is a pact written in blood on the very soul of Fissure of Woe and it says “Destroy Vabbi”.
Enjoy your victory while it lasts.

Just 1 more days of this guys….. just 1 more day.

Herr der Friedhoefe.2490:

IMO there isn’t much point to play WvW anymore […]

Then please do the world a favour and stop playing it.
I didn’t read the rest of your utterly uninteresting post but this caught my attention.

Careful guys, the Mathematicians are loose.

agnofinitra.6791:

Royce Melborn.3276:

RoF may have as many points as RoS had last week, but RoS was 10 classes better than RoF. Some RoF players here keep talking about “trash”…. well 95% of the RoF players I fought the last two days were beyond trash when it comes to skill. So yeah, you own us because you have the far greater numbers but the average skill level is much worse on your server than on ours. Just saying. Your lucky to have guilds like [TaG] or you’d be in T9 constantly.

There are a lot more guilds playing WvW in RoF than TaG bro.

Krosan.2890:

Seriously, how am I arrogant? If anything you’re the arrogant ones coming on here saying how better skilled you are in the world of Tyria…
Never have I said anything bad about Fow and Vabbi’s abilities or the server in general as I have allot of respect for the people who stick with their server in the situation you guys are in. I commented on the fact you started acting big saying how skilled you are as opposed to us when this matchup has been going on for about a day and thats about it, I wonder if you even read my post or if you just decided to throw out the arrogant argument in the hope of proving something..

No you never said anything bad about FoW and Vabbi but quite a few others from RoF have done so (read the thread, just in case you haven’t). So if most of your regular players aren’t even playing how can you come on the forums and state we are the trashcan nobody wants to fight? It’s not like we are always doing as bad as against you. Ask Blacktide about it.

RoF may have as many points as RoS had last week, but RoS was 10 classes better than RoF. Some RoF players here keep talking about “trash”…. well 95% of the RoF players I fought the last two days were beyond trash when it comes to skill. So yeah, you own us because you have the far greater numbers but the average skill level is much worse on your server than on ours. Just saying. Your lucky to have guilds like [TaG] or you’d be in T9 constantly.

Fight [TaG] again? Hell yeah.
Apart from that: Fix the rating system Anet PLEASE.

Mantis.3026:

Royce Melborn.3276:

Why isn’t your name up there YuGiOh?? kitten you all, why don’t you recognize the great YuGiOh?!! Life is so unfair und mean!!

lulz

I lol’d hard, i thought you were being serious like all the other ‘Look at me’s in this thread until i read the poster

lol yeah it’s kinda pathetic when you start begging for recognition on the forums. Earn the respect guys. Peace.

Why isn’t your name up there YuGiOh?? kitten you all, why don’t you recognize the great YuGiOh?!! Life is so unfair und mean!!

lulz

Moon of Despair is a bloody machine. I’ve hardly ever been pownd so hard in a duel and certainly not by an engi. Too bad she left FoW

The Umpire.9510:

you know what…. i gave the guy 15g to transfer it was sad to see 4 ppl from vabbi attacking garrison they even cant build a ram he was a new player 1 lvl 80 character and stuck in a server with a few wvw players… i feel for that guy, so i paid his transfer and gave him a wvw guild

wvw shoul be like this….

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBZYWthqS_k

That video is the exact reason I will never transfer. I don’t want to play LagWars 2, spamming AoE skills and buffs without ever even knowing who I hit because it’s just one big mass of red name tags. Like some other dude here said before: Don’t impose on other people your idea of the “perfect WvW”. For you fights like those in the video may be the most fun you can have. For me it would be a reason to quit playing this game.
By the way, feel free to send me 15g anytime you like.

Lord Haw Haw.2648:

The only reason I am playing gw2 is for the wvw, I do not blame vabbi or fow for this matchup nor do I blame ros. The one thing I do not understand is how you cope every week seeing the map like this. I would have quit the game if I had to pay to move servers just so I can enjoy such an integral part of my gw2 experience.

It’s not like this every week. It’s only been like this against Ring of Fire before and now against you guys. Against Blacktide we had between 100 and 200 points most of the time and Arborstone wasn’t half as bad either. This is an extreme situation for us as well.

@Liquid: Now that blue is gone things have gotten better imho. Might be that morale isn’t that good on FoW but the regulars come back all the time, no matter what. Maybe it was worse when you were playing, like I said above, this is an extreme situation for us as well.

You know we (FoW) had quite a lot of fun playing against blacktide last week and we will have quite a lot of fun playing against them again next week. It’s not that we suck that hard Liquid, it just comes to that when we are extremely outnumbered. People obviously ragequit then too. Why wouldn’t they?
We had much better tactics last week i.e. holding the keeps on our bl on T3 for more than 3 days while capping lots of stuff in EB. That’s what makes people respawn and go back to WvW asap. That’s what motivates people. And that is just not possible against RoS or RoF. It’s the difference in numbers, really. Everything depends on that.

MiLkZz.4789:

Most boring reset ever, they should delete vabbi and fissure from wvw…

Not even 2on1 is a challange, I have seen upscaled for godsake.
And veteran as highest rank entire evening, really?

Ranks don’t mean much on FoW and Vabbi. And considering the number of “Majors” and “Generals” I’ve killed today I’d say they don’t mean too much on RoS either.

Well it’s gonna be the same as it was against RoF… which means no fun for anyone. Let’s make the best of it and have some duels. This can be entertaining and there is always a build you haven’t fought before. I’m always up for it, just whisper me ingame.
The only good thing about this matchup is that we get to see some of our old FoW commanders who transfered to RoS in the last couple of weeks

Chris.4360:

It seems, revanought lord, that you are too sensitive, i was just pointing out the bad sportmanship and cowardice of certain players when to be honest if the 7 rushed us we would of had a good fight but they would of won. No names called just disappointment in some really underhand tactics. Or maybe you are trying to start a fight here seeing as you cant do it in wvw

You know I made similar experiences with RoF player all week long. Ask my guildmates or other players on FoW. Even when I was soloing camps I met groups of 2 or 3 RoF players who just ran away until they met 5 more before facing me. Some players are just not good at PvP and when they see a “high” ranking WvW player they run off. No need to blame or even start insulting the whole server. There are black sheeps everywhere. Well, call me over-sensitive but I feel insulted by stuff like “No wonder FoW sucks so hard when they are all cowards”. So let’s all stay friends, we’ve made it this long and the weeks almost over!

That Necro is one hell of a player indeed. I’m sure he barely felt my backstabs. One hell of a tank.

I have to say I didn’t like the 5 vs 5 duels. Probably because it doesn’t really suit my build. Can’t take too much AoE at once
And on our first 5 vs 5 ([NaZ] vs [Jd] our downed players got stumped by NaZ so theirs would rally which I thought was not exactly the way a duel is meant to be but nevermind. We were outmanned so no repair fees.
RoF has some really awesome players. I’m sure you’re gonna rock on your next matches.

Sorry for taking down your Flame Ram arena guys but the Rams were messing with the Mesmers illusions. Nice idea though just like the golem fight. Next time we bring Omega golems
The majority were RoF people obviously while Vabbi was completely absent (what a shame). Had some fun duels though so big thanks to RoF again for making this possible.

Quite a few people including myself erred in the time zone so at the moment there are only 3 people from RoF (people there know there time) but 15 from FoW waiting for duels so if any of you RoF or Vabbi people read this move to Vabbi Windmill (behind orchard) ^^

soulsugger.5726:

Royce Melborn.3276
Maybe to make this for both us (FoW) and RoF more bearable we could organize duels and GvG fights. Might be a nice distraction. Anyone interested in organizing something like that? I would really like to duel that Necromancer “Legend” that was coming at us in Dawns yesterday (was it [TaG] guild?).

-Ur request has been accepted for some awesome 1vs1 or whatever duels at 6gmt today! bring ur friends at vabbi bl at mill hopefully we have some good fights.
Greetings,

Awesome guys, thanks so much. I left work early to get everything sorted out before 6pm and I’ll bring my guildies as well. Watch out for FoW people from guild [Jd]. See you in a bit!

YuGiOh,
one might disagree about the fair fighting part. I remember times not too long ago when Vabbis were constantly flying into our keeps and taking them in 2mins. There are heaps of videos on youtube
To be fair though, I haven’t seen a Vabbi flying around for a few weeks now.

Great! Finally we get those duels organised! I hope I’ll be able to make it this evening. I’ll be sure to bring some guildies as well

Depends on your playstyle I guess. I do a lot of roaming and capturing camps so I spent most them on increased damage to guards. I sometimes defend keeps so AC mastery is a must have as well.
If you run with the zerg you might use it on decreased damage from siege or something like that. It’s up to you really.

Alesh.4196:

i totally feel you and i am sorry for you putting up with us.. That’s main reason why most of my guild (WvW orientated) took a PvE week and we dont go into WvW (for example instead of WvW event we took balthazar today etc.) I respect you guys, because you are really fighting hard and doing your best. I hope they will finally do something about it…..

I think TaG takes the week off because you still haven’t recovered from getting wiped by 6 people on 4 ACs after that fail portalbomb at dawns the first night
Seriously though, I can totally understand that some RoF guilds see no point in doing WvW this week. I have been taking camps in RoF bl all morning and I got the feeling that you guys even LET us take the camps so you can take them back because I was obviously making a circle and you could’ve easily caught me at the next camp.

Nuvo.5014:

DevonCarver.5370:

This scenario has been happening in T9 in EU for months now. This new matchup system should cause more rotation in and out of T9 than previously occurred. The real issue here is that Fissure of Woe and Vabbi are usually facing this sort of problem.

Look at T3 in NA, That is not WvW. A tick of 400+ all day is not WvW so don’t tell its only T9 in EU. We are Beta testing again. Maybe we never leavy the Beta Test.

only 400+? Man I wish it was like that on T9 EU.

Hamham is was noticing the same today. Even groups of 3 would avoid me roaming alone and run until they meet another group. I also noticed that the highest rank I met all day was Scout which makes me believe that many of the RoF regulars actually stay out of WvW this week.
Too bad, I was really hoping for some quality duels or small group fights.

Herr der Friedhoefe.2490:

Billaboong.6821:

Herr der Friedhoefe.2490:

Sorry guys, we didn’t ask for this match up. Please excuse us for what we’re about to do to you.

I’m a commander from RoF and I don’t think this is WvW at all. It’s not fun. IT was cool the first 2 hours after reset until we conquested the whole borders but now there’s nothing else to do. How can I play WvWvW if there’s only one World?

The first restart was cool. We had several good fights on our hands and I’m sure Blacktide was happy to be lifted out of the trashcan.

Now we’re in it and we still don’t have a good reason from Anet about that.

1. Reason is randomness. If you still haven’t educated yourself on the new system it’s your fault, don’t keep whining here on the forums about it.
2. The reason why Vabbi and FoW are so bad is because of the lack of numbers, not a lack of skill. So please keep your trashcan talk to yourself.

Maybe to make this for both us (FoW) and RoF more bearable we could organize duels and GvG fights. Might be a nice distraction. Anyone interested in organizing something like that? I would really like to duel that Necromancer “Legend” that was coming at us in Dawns yesterday (was it [TaG] guild?).

lol I really appreciate the kind words you RoF guys. Why not even meet for a cup of afternoon tea in stonemist castle. You could show us around and we could chat about the weather ^.^
Seriously though, I don’t think anyone wants something for free on either Vabbi or FoW. We rarely hold one of tkitten keeps anyway so jumping puzzle was always just a bonus.

Don’t worry, for us in FoW the game is no fun without the outmanned icon on. Go hard or go home

Oceangrave.9657:

Even without our weekend warriors they are no match. Do they even have anything at all?

Some people appreciate our scenery. Some of the Vistas are breathtaking.

This is hilarious!

Billaboong.6821:

I’m a commander from Ring of Fire server. Only 2 hours after the reset we had already almost fulled the WvW maps. How are we supposed to spend a week against those servers? This is not WvW and there’s no point on playing a whole week. That’s not a good start for new matchup system.

Well do Fissure of Woe and Vabbi a favour and quit playing for a week. We would appreciate the experience. Otherwise I hope green is your colour because you will see a lot of it over the next few days.
Transferring to Fissure of Woe / Vabbi with your entire guild would be an option as well of course.

Actually I think larger maps would help with the zerg problem but people don’t like to run around for ages so it would kitten many WvW players off. Large maps would make room for some nice tactical playing though!

Just ask yourself if the badges are really worth running mindlessly in a zerg. Coming from a lowest tier server I mostly roam solo or in a group of ±5 and have a lot of great small fights which are a lot of fun and require skill instead of spamming AoE in a big lagging battle and I still have more than 1.5k badges. Yeah, players from higher tiers who have their entire bank filled with badges will laugh about that but honestly: what do you do with 10 or 20k badges??? Even if you want to buy ascended gear now the laurels will be the limiting factor, not the badges.

Junkpile.7439:

Royce Melborn.3276:

How could you possibly complain about that? If I get a rare sometime even better!

Because rares, siege weapons or badges doesn’t mean kitten to me.

Then what does?

The chests are pretty cool. Only got greens so far but today alone I got 6 chests which means 30 badges, 1 trebuchet blueprint and 1 catapult blueprint (the rest were flameram / AC). How could you possibly complain about that? If I get a rare sometime even better!

I can smell the guards kittenting themselves already!

I can agree with everyone here… the amount of laurels needed is ridiculous.
Make it half the laurels and three times the badges or something like that. What’s the point of this now?
Such a joke!

I like the looks of my named armor (Nikas armor to be precisely, but the named armors look the same). The rune of infiltration makes some nice damage once you have your enemy below 50% hp (whichs is practically after backstabbing). I still replaced the runes with scholar runes though.
Mind you, this is a berzerker gear so you need to be sure that’s the build you want to run.
I think most people would agree with me though when I say that it is the most common and most fun build for a thief.

If people would just quit whining about how op all other classes are compared to their favorite class and instead just accepted the challenge and rise to it, visiting this forum would be much less annoying.

Basilisk Venom is the best elite skill by far. Steal to your target with basilisk venom —> cnd —> backstab —> down. If you are fighting a tough tanky build follow with 2x heartseeker and your enemy is dead.
I agree it’s pretty bad in zergs bur for roamers who fight 1 – 4 enemies at a time it’s the best elite skill.

Thieves need a nerf??? Seriously, if there had been only 1 (!!!) good player in that group/“zerg” who knew how to play this puppying game he could’ve stopped the thief.
I play thief myself and to my shame I have to admit that every once in a while I loose against several classes, especially Mesmer (wasting backstabs on illusions), Guardian (they just block my backstabs) and lately even Engineer (those who know how to fight a thief). I daresay every class has a mechanism to stop stealthy backstab thieves. It’s not the thieves’ fault that most players are too stupid to learn how to play properly. Of course if you only run in a zerg all the time spamming “1” you won’t learn how to fight off each class properly.

I don’t think there is something like “sabotage” on the lowest tier. That guy Endacil is talking about is just a poor lost soul with no friends in either real life or in game.
May god have mercy on his soul.
But since all he does is stand in citadel insulting other players while the rest of the server defends a keep it’s fairly easy to just put him on ignore and get on with the game.

Is it true that unused siege equipments despawns now after only 30 mins? Couldn’t find any information confirming it in the update note but a player on our server told me so.

If that is true I’m finally done with WvW and possibly the entire game. This would only help servers with high population who have enough players to constantly spam sieges and completely ruin small servers with few players who actually drop them.
Being on the lowest tier on Fissure of Woe this would totally bash any improvements we have made over the last couple of days for the above reasons….

I ran AC before the patch and I still run it. Leveling my warrior I started running AC (after patch) with lvl 35 and did all three paths once every day since. It takes 2 or 3 runs till you know what to do, then it’s just as easy. With a good group I do all 3 paths together in little more than an hour (skipping kholer and mobs).
So to sum it up: Yes it’s a little (!) harder then before the patch but all those people complaining about it being too hard should seriously learn how to play the game or go back to Super Mario or Call of Duty.