Guild Wars 2

Sista.1925:

Mif.3471:

Food for thought: If TC is desperate to get to T1 as some claim, then why would no one bother to show up for the last few days of the matchup knowing we’ve already won? Wouldn’t we use our opponents low morale and thus low turnout to grind out more rating?

Posted by Tallis-
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Posted about 17 hours a go, looks like TC was still there to me….surely this was a morale booster for us on Kain in our current downed state.

How I miss you MIF…….:)

Yup I was in WvW yesterday when we took the EB map. Both Kain and FA were outmanned! We golum rushed the entire map.

Tallis.5607:

Sab.5291:

we do not have enough people during off NA time to handle tier 1

Good point, but… that was also said when we moved to T2 and yet we’re still here.

I am not specifically aiming to get to T1, but I do wonder how it would be there.

Will we lose in points? Yes, we will.

Will we also lose in ranking? Maybe.

But I am not so sure.

In the current match, FA has 62 ranking less than TC, they are losing with 100,000 points from TC but they only lose 10 ranking. Currently, TC has 100 ranking less tha the 2nd in T1. I would be very surprised if we lose with much more than 100k in T1.

So, I doubt that with the current ranking score, TC would lose a lot of rankings when TC goes to T1.

Not that I really WANT TC to go to T1, but I am not against it either. What’s the worse that can happen?

You are very observant! why is FA only 60 points behind us if we beat them by 60,0000? The reason is how they score each server. FA when they are equally matched in people has done a very good job keeping us on our heals and defending our territory not attacking. Their zurg has been strong and tough to beat. Being the aggressor is part of the scoring. Yes we are out pointing them each week but we have NOT gained a lot of ranking points. I believe they take outmanned into account which happens a lot for FA. (I am not sure)
If FA gives us a hard time when we are equally matched what do you think will happen when the rolls are reversed, not with 1 but with 2 servers constantly on the attack? These are servers that live and breathe WvW 24/7 – 365 days a year!
The points I made earlier are why we cant compete with them for the long hall, YET!!!!. Yes maybe for a day or 2.
Could we learn something from them? Yes most defiantly! We learned so much facing WM/CO/RISE from Kain.
Remember they used to beat us pretty good!
We need to be more organized or we will be the doormat for tier 1 for weeks once we get there.
I don’t like to be stepped on unless I know it will make us better!

Condition damage is key for FT setup. In WvW zurg running you need AOE ! I am not sure on pistols, i use rifle for longer distance, higher damage. I would maximize your burn potential which also can help with rifle. you need elixirs sorry to say. speed boosts especially. Engineers are slow!
Each person has there own playing style so the build needs to go with how you play. Do you run in front of zurg? or more of a supporting cast? Do you spend most of your time defending towers? Do you like to run in a big group or small strike team?
These are all different builds!

T1 for TC ?
I don’t think so….. Not yet!
Although it would be fun for a day or two, we do not have enough people during off NA time to handle tier 1. We are also very disorganized compared to the other T1 servers.
WE have some really good commanders out in the field but only a few that know how to face and battle zurg vs zurg. Which is key in T1!
We also lack in communication, although it has been getting better we still need the full map together as one. Not everyone running a zurg but able to quickly and accurately relay info.

There are a few commanders doing training on Thursdays and Fridays before reset. Please join with them to help make TC even better and eventually a T1 server.

Nice video! whats your build?

xxxzavulonxxx.8413:

Kain – You had a good run.

Match up predictions for next week….

TC will go into PR mode and try to cuddle DB

But they don’t understand DB. DB is a honey badger… it doesn’t give a kitten.

FA and DB will probably pvf with each other a bit, but all the while secretly crushing on each other.

We will see come re-set!
as they say " Talk is cheap!"
From the immortal words of Rick Flair:
“To be the man… You got to beat the man!”

Talentless.5708:

VOLKON.1290:

I’m hearing conflicting rumors… some say WM is coming to BG (I think), others say WM has fallen apart and are no more. Does anyone have any actual facts?

WM doesnt count as a guild any more. Besides, there next transfer would already be planned in 2-3 weeks.

WM has been non existent for the last 3 weeks in Tier 2 with KN. There 30-40 member zurg was a terror before TC learned how compete with them.
I give them only a few weeks with BG (if they are going there). They don’t like to lose…
I am not talking bad about them… I would love to see them on TC and make a run at T1.

Anet has NO love for the Engineer!
They have been nerfed to the weakest class by far!
I stopped individual PvP and only play WvW.
The only thing going for this class is their AOE ability for loot bags. (If you survive!)

I think anyone and everyone Knows Sab in TC. (not bragging) I have a unique playing style.
I run an engineer and find there is a dramatic build difference between PVe, PvP and WvW. (Note to Anet: Engineer class is the weakest class, but really fun to play. show us some love?)
I spend most my time in WvW, so this is what i do;
In WvW when running in a Zurg, you are looking for High Dps AOE. (Tons of loot bags) is what your after. 30/30/0/10/0. AOE is the key!
I run full Knights gear. all Jewelry and slots is focused on power and toughness. this will give you some help in surviving but not a lot. I only grenade while assaulting/ defending a keep or tower. except large grenade attack…see below)
Attack combos when hitting a zurg goes as followed.
Drop supply crate on top of zurg (this does a lot of damage/ stuns opponents and gives you heals when you run into it)
Big F2 or3 grenade attack( Added damage and extra grenades and wider explosion area with build)
Have flamethrower as weapon of choice. (build creates juggernaut +10 might while using flamethrower)
This build does a lot of damage quickly and hits a lot of people.
NOW, I am not suggesting you use this build for individual PvP. Although with skill you can manage. But it is more difficult and there are better builds available.

I truly hope CO finds a place where the whole guild will be happy. The EPIC battles has made the last few weeks one of the best in WvW. Gonna miss that!
I would of love to have seen the results with all three servers running at full steam, minus the individual drama and infighting.
Best of luck, and hope we cross path again!

kkc.7316:

WM and Meow will be moving slowly starting from Monday

Wait!!!!
Meow is leaving also?

CO is a class act guild. I hate to see them leave Kain the battles have been awesome. We have the same issues here at TC with commanders getting burnt out. What we did to get unity is no matter what the score was, have a full explanation training night before reset. It has worked a little and getting better.
But for such a large guild to move to a server that is already 24/7 que has me worried.
It sounds nice, but i think your membership is gonna die off. People want to play not sit in Que for hours.
Yes they also want to win, everyone does! But i think it is a big mistake for a guild your size moving to any of the tier1 servers. You will end-up losing members that want to play more than be recognized as a tier 1 guild.

Swampy.1359:

Sab.5291:

Torqky.3682:

WM and CO leaving Kain. In other news, how is everyone doing today? Keep it classy T2!

We have heard this before. Do you think they are gonna leave and to where?

Quick, now’s your chance, flash that cash!!!

Sorry! I think you are confusing Me with someone else. Why would i or any other TC player want a longer que time during our prime time play?
I think CO is making a bad decision with those two choices. seems like bandwagon jumping and the guild is going to be in a rude awakening when they cant play because those servers already have a 24/7 que.
I think they would be better off taking a lower level server and building them up.

Torqky.3682:

WM and CO leaving Kain. In other news, how is everyone doing today? Keep it classy T2!

We have heard this before. Do you think they are gonna leave and to where?

Whitebeard.5172:

Sab.5291:

UO was a great game and my first mmo.
Then they changed it up and it died quickly. Like many who played it I grinned to have the best gear in the game, than overnight they changed the game.

Yeah they changed it up all right. Trammel, friggin FA players had to have Trammel!!!

I’m joking

Remember the Katana was the ultimate weapon!

UO was a great game and my first mmo.
Then they changed it up and it died quickly. Like many who played it I grinned to have the best gear in the game, than overnight they changed the game.

Issues.5789:

I have a question; has TC ever had the outmanned buff ever?!

Almost everyday we get the Outmanned Buff!!!

Vinterchaos.2541:

Sab.5291:

I think people misunderstand running away…
It’s fighting on our terms- not yours!
I have seen many times, zurgs on either sides, be it TC, KN or FA, take out a larger zurg just by having position on the battle field. WM for Kain did this very well for a time, until we found the way counter them.
TC very rarely runs away! (except for a backup commander or two) We position ourselves for the best chance to succeed! Even if the numbers are against us.
Smart commanders do this repeatedly!
Taking into account terrain, location or distance from spawn, possible choke points and classes of people that are running with them. A good commander knows how many Eles, mesmer, guardians, warriors etc.. he has with him. It makes a huge difference on where they will do battle. Not to forget, the trusted scouts around the maps, giving detailed info on the other team movements.

TC’s success, has been the growth of our commanders understanding this.

Weekly practice for militia and smaller guilds to learn our strategy and why we do things the way we do is helping greatly. Something a commander does not have the time to explain during the thick of battle.

Because you guys can’t really win without a wall and some arrow carts unless you are fighting a boatload of militia or outnumber 2/1 – 3/1

Yup! you are right we cant fight without a wall and a boatload of AC. Your logic is on-the-mark!!!!
Until you think how silly that comment really is!
I thought the object of WvWvW was to take over and hold towers and keeps?
as far as zurg vs zurg when numbers are equal we have been dominating the battle field.
That is not chest pumping, it’s a fact and the score reflects it!
I personally don’t like running over a small group with a larger zurg. The fun is when you are outnumbered or mega Zurg against Mega zurg in an open field battle. That’s when commanders are key!
Don’t get mad! TAKE BACK YOUR TOWERS!

I think people misunderstand running away…
It’s fighting on our terms- not yours!
I have seen many times, zurgs on either sides, be it TC, KN or FA, take out a larger zurg just by having position on the battle field. WM for Kain did this very well for a time, until we found the way counter them.
TC very rarely runs away! (except for a backup commander or two) We position ourselves for the best chance to succeed! Even if the numbers are against us.
Smart commanders do this repeatedly!
Taking into account terrain, location or distance from spawn, possible choke points and classes of people that are running with them. A good commander knows how many Eles, mesmer, guardians, warriors etc.. he has with him. It makes a huge difference on where they will do battle. Not to forget, the trusted scouts around the maps, giving detailed info on the other team movements.

TC’s success, has been the growth of our commanders understanding this.

Weekly practice for militia and smaller guilds to learn our strategy and why we do things the way we do is helping greatly. Something a commander does not have the time to explain during the thick of battle.

Only transfer were some HOGS!!!

Hey Kain!!!
Welcome to the party!
Glad to see you back in EB!

@Beachead

Your Joking , Right? FA in 3 days got their whole act together. NO other guilds came in?
So for the past 4 weeks when you were outmanned for 8-10 hours a day, (even during spring break) you snapped your fingers and it all came together.
Glad to hear you got your act together!
I am not complaining, i am glad you showed up to play this week. I also wish that Kain came to play this week. would have been nice.

Us role playing “HOGS” gave you the lead. See if you can hold it…

Being a TC WvWvW player all the time. I can say this is the first week that there has not been any 2v1 in EB. Unlike previous weeks. (don’t mistake an easy opportunity and points, for ganging up!!!)

Finally FA commanders have woke up, Brought some more guilds to their server (that had to put a dent in your pockets) and have been fielding a lot of people in their Zurg.
You are still opportunists and wont make a move till someone else does and attack their weak side. (not saying it’s a bad thing) I think they are finally understanding that ignoring kain isn’t gonna work.

Kain though, has been absent for some reason. Yes, they flip SM from time to time but their zurg has been missing. WM has not been fielding a full group which is hurting the whole server. Hence, the rumors of them jumping ship!!

TC Where are you? You are currently in second, you are outmanned most of the day and cant fend off the FA zurg lately (a zurg you have dominated in previous weeks). You could dominate Tier 2 if you could field a zurg 24/7 like the other Top PvP servers.
But again, TC is a RP server. I think that what really annoys the other servers .
GOOD!!!!

One day from another reset.. Are we going to see weak 5 of: KN vs TC vs FA.

Well I am happy to report, That you wonderful FA people finally took your first Kaine tower today in EB… Congrats!!! It is only Tuesday…

Flame thrower is a good AOE and gate defense item. With the invisible bug still plaguing WvW it comes in handy to find your opponents.
One thing i do notice, having rolled a number of characters. The Engineer is total weakling compared to other classes. they do less damage and speed is greatly reduced. and because they can only use medium armor take tremendous amount of damage quickly. Yes they have a bunch of elixor’s to drop but you can’t equip without taking away something that is needed.

Flame thrower is a good AOE and gate defense item. With the invisible bug still plaguing WvW it comes in handy to find your opponents.
One thing i do notice, having rolled a number of characters. The Engineer is total weakling compared to other classes. they do less damage and speed is greatly reduced. and because they can only use medium armor take tremendous amount of damage quickly. The only thing going for them is their AOE abilities.

Well who ever gets Black Gate on friday. I hope you stomp them!!! Only reason they are beating Tarnished coast: is they have full server 24/7 and a bunch of guilds left other servers to join them. But when we man up they are nothing! we wiped right through them. Not bad for a bunch of RP’s.