it was only 400 to 500 because the enemy Team dindt care for Points. they just wanted the kills. could have been 100to 500 as well. and you should learn the difference between a legitimate complain and crying before you post a useless comment. thank you
Arenanet,
do you really expect people to play tpvp if something like this is possible?
Not only the rank differences but also that at least 4 of the enemy players were premade (same guild tag) while we all queud solo.
I also highly disagree with putting unique dungeon skins in WvW. Those skins are for the those specific dungeons only. I’m all for more unique skins but current unique skins should stay with the places you obtain them from and should stay unique to that content.
And again. There are no unique dungeons skins, as all the skins buyable from the dungeon tokens are also available in tpvp. So two of the three big endgame possibilitys (wvsw, dungeons, tpvp) have good looking skins while you look like a jerk if you decide to buy the wvsw skins. So why not just give the wvsw players the skins as well so everybody is happy?
I don’t really think you should be able to get *the next tier of equip to keep the pve kids in line" gear with dungeon tockens. It’s pretty selective as it is to get in WvsW, and theres always laurels you can use to buy “the next tier of equip to keep the pve kids in line” ". Dailies are plenty doable in pve. Many WvsW players go without having ascended gear because they don’t enjoy the methods of acquiring them, PvE players can suck it up as well.
So this is it? The “big” wvsw patch? Culling fixed- dont know if it works because the wvsw servers are down but if yes, great!
All the rest? The simpliest progression system i have ever seen. 8 boring passive skills and some titles. thats it.
Items that nobody needs. Some low level skins, which look horrible
No unique wvsw skins, no good looking (tpvp/dungeon) skins. no ascended gear. no word to bring back the orbs. no improvement to the commander book. no game updates like new maps, new siege and siege skills, new Upgrades.
A serious question. Except for the culling fix. How long did this take to develop? 1 day, maybe 1 week? And this is the first Major update we get since 9 months!(beside the breakout Event, removing the exp for escorting dolyaks and removing the orbs)
Really disspaointed. This “big” wvsw patch ist another pve patch. Like every other kitten patch before.
WvW players out number all other aspects of this game. Only PvE has a chance to beat out WvW players. Remember tho most PvE’ers WvW, but there are tons of WvWers who don’t PvE.
no, whatever I do outnumbers every other aspect, because I’m the most important person and what I do, everybody has to be doing, couldn’t be any other way….
/sarcasm
have you ever considered that the few hundred persons per server at peak times (because, if you didn’t know it, there’s a limit on how many people may wuvwuv at one time) are outnumbered by far by the pve players who have no limitations at all.
So we should lock those few hundred players (per server so more like a couple thousand) out of “cool” looking armor skins? Why because they choose wvw as there end game instead of dungeons? If wvw got unique skins pve only people would lose there kitten. So no unique skins for wvw I understand that. What I don’t understand is not making dungeon skins available from badges.
dungeon skins are,
DUNGEON skins. It doesnt make sense to offer dungeon skins to WvWvW players because those skins are specifically created to and are the main if not only real purpose in running dungeons.
No, as most of the skins(or even all) are also available in tpvp. So you can call them PVP skins as well.There are no unique dungeon skins. The only part of the game excluded from good looking skins is wvsw.
Really really really really really i mean really dissappointed. I want the arah skin for wvsw (like i’m wearing it in tpvp) but dont want to grind this boring dungeon 20 + times. So i hoped for the dungeon/tpvp Skins being available for badges. But just like ascended gear they somehow dont want to give wvsw players equal equip (ascended gear in terms of stats, rest in Terms of look) to pve players. I think they hate us. Maybe too much crying in this forum?
Dont see the Problem. Arrow Carts are better to destroy rams and the AOE Knockback from the Cata can be avoided by placing the rams right. But i agree that it ist too easy to destroy a gate. They should just increase the hp about 25%.
I really hope it wont be just the temple armor. Because…well, we can buy it already. Every WvsWer should have tons of karma and being able to visit orr.
i would like to see the dungeon/tpvp armor buyable with badges. i like some of the skins and wear them in tpvp but have no possibility to get them outside of tpvp. And no, i wont grind one of the boring dungeons 20+times.
How is it possible that a group of level 2-24 “randoms”(everybody queued solo) plays against a premade group with everybody being level 51-58? Randoms vs premade groups should NEVER be possible. This is just frustrating and in my opinion one of the main reasons the tpvp is almost dead in this game. And dont say i should play spvp. If i want a big zergfest i can go wvsw. Please make seperate queues for premades/no premades or reduce the players in spvp to 5 per team
… oh and people, there are no EU servers, they are all in the US, Texas to be exact
Thats wrong. We had a official post from a arenanet community manager in the german forum a few days ago. He wrote that there are no servers in texas. The eu servers are in frankfurt/germany. The US servers are somewhere in the usa, but not in texas.
@topic login server down. during a mapchange in spvp (server elona reach, eu, location germany)
@Benjamin
Just to let you know. We(elona) were more weeks in t1 then your server(sfr). We were the first server who beat vizunah and this without abusing the free transfers and getting north american nightcapping guilds. As a 1 timezone server we have a hard time and do out best to stay in t1 and t2 and we would have been there for at least another week if your server didnt get all the bandwagon guilds from piken. But funny how some sfr form warriors invaded the ELONA- DESO-VIZUNAH Matchup thread in the german forum some days so we had to change the title in “Elona- Deso- Vizunah- nix Seefahrer(no Sfr)” and now they are doing the same here. in trolling the forum your server is without a doubt number 1 in eu.
When did i say anything about dropping vizu from t1? I said you wanted to go down to t2, because you thought you would make more points vs the t2 servers then against vizunah and deso.
You did it because you wanted to gain more points against the t2 servers and start in a higher tier after the reset. If the reset happened you would have started in t2 or 3 while elona would have been in t7. So your goal was to get as fast as possible to t1 again=stay in t1.
Are you kidding? Plz tell me you are not a sfr player talking about rating manipulation. Because i remember a huge rating manipulation by sfr after arenanet announced the rating will be resettet. I remember sfr ticking with 20-80 points whole thursday and friday. i remember sfr opening towers for elona and deffing them against vizunah, to drop in tier.
We made some very intentional changes to the way we calculate loot. One of the effects of this change is that there is more loot dropping in WvW. Yay! Increasing the loot in WvW was one of our goals and we’re glad that it’s making some of you happy. Also, just to be sure that we were comfortable with the impact it had on loot in WvW we had our economist do some analysis of the drop rates in WvW after this patch. After looking at his results we’re still comfortable with the changes. On a personal note, I was very happy to get a much better badge drop rate when I played yesterday
Tl;dr: it’s not a bug, enjoy the loot!
Great Change. Before the Patch i was getting almost no bags with my support/bunker ele. No he is getting as much bags as my full dmg thief. Thank You!
I really don’t understand the complains from deso players about the nightcapping of vizunah. When i looked at the score during night deso also made a lot of points. Your nightcapping team was equal the first days of the matchup and almost equal the last days. So you still have a bigger nightcapping team then 25 other eu servers. You even have a big guild playing during night while i think every server has to scrape together some randoms to not loos everything. So if there wasn’t vizunah, desolation would be “the eu nightcapping server”. There always has to be one server with the biggest night/morning/middayscrews as long as no server manage to fill all maps with players 24/7
@Nemesys
I remember your guild tag (just because of the association) when i was playing on riverside for a few weeks. I’m usually searching the map for 1vs1-1vs3 with my bunker ele and some of your guys were the worst 1on1 players i have ever met during the kast months. So i really wouldn’t be arrogant- you had a big lack of skill.
Had a lot of fun on Deso borderlands last night. Thanks to the Deso Guilds ( kaz, fg and dsd if i’m not wrong) for that. Some tough fights but i think overall it was pretty even. The only annoying thing were the huge laggs. Especially at the beginning when we attacked the garrison i couldn’t use any skills. At least there were no culling
Solid Facts? Please give me an official statement by Anet that server population == WvW population.
Said so there is don t need for ANET to give statement to understand that very high = more ppl in www. ^^"
Blacktide=very high
Current score: 49.706, ticking with 35 points = almost nobody in wvsw
There are a few very high/full servers in the lower tiers. Do you really think these servers have a higher wvsw population then sfr? (just a hint, higher tier=higher wvsw/offtime population)
we on elona are a very high/full server and have during primetime 20-30 min queues for all maps except the eternals. Sounds very similar to your server.
Maybe someday sfr people will understand that server population has nothing to do with wvsw population.
Don’t be afraid of PvDoors. Current EU T1 and T2 are full at night and our opponents have plenty of people to fight with. It won’t be a boring experience.
So the one timezone german servers kodash and elona, mainly one timezone french server vizunah and the collapsed french server arborstone are “full at night”?
Because showing respect towards the enemy demonstrates class. Being rude, arrogant or insulting servers, guild, players or even nationalities doesn’t.
Hahaha that gave me a good laugh.
I was reading the german Server threads since over 4 months and you won’t seriousely tell us, that Elona or any other Server doesen’t have the same amount of Forum Warriors then SFR or any other Server ???
But I see you want to make some good propaganda for the next matchup and charm VIZ by playing the good guys right ?
Then read it again. The last two matchup threads with kodash were almost free of flames and insults. And yes, every server has some forum warriors but from my point of view sfr has some more then the others.
Players from national servers talk about coordination.
I think we talk about random players discovering the WvW maps and involving them into battle.
You probably know much less about this than Elona, Deso or Vizu since SFR is a “flavour of the month” server.
Well it works because newbie french players probably listen other french players (I wouldn’t listen because you just zerg).
I Really hope that we (Elona) will play against Desolation next matchup instead of SFR. And from what i have read in our german forum und heard in our ts, most of us hope that. The thread will be much more civilized without sfr players insulting other servers and players and being arrogant. This is what most of your forum warriors are doing.
( we also have a sfr forum warrior in the german forum, who is doing exactly the same there)
You really should take a example out of desolation players, whos posts are mainly respectful and friendly.
Gogo Deso, only 18 points to stay in t1:)
This is mmorpg game forum so why post should be respectful and friendly? I am old school player so i don’t know how to sing kumbaya with annoying enemies.
Because showing respect towards the enemy demonstrates class. Being rude, arrogant or insulting servers, guild, players or even nationalities doesn’t.
Players from national servers talk about coordination.
I think we talk about random players discovering the WvW maps and involving them into battle.
You probably know much less about this than Elona, Deso or Vizu since SFR is a “flavour of the month” server.
Well it works because newbie french players probably listen other french players (I wouldn’t listen because you just zerg).
I Really hope that we (Elona) will play against Desolation next matchup instead of SFR. And from what i have read in our german forum und heard in our ts, most of us hope that. The thread will be much more civilized without sfr players insulting other servers and players and being arrogant. This is what most of your forum warriors are doing.
( we also have a sfr forum warrior in the german forum, who is doing exactly the same there)
You really should take a example out of desolation players, whos posts are mainly respectful and friendly.
Just to clarify one thing. There wasn’t any mass transfer from guilds to elona. Arbrostone collapsed , so its a 1vs1 against kodash. Without a third server involved the wvsw population differences between kodasch and elona are much more noticeable.
And i dont understand your point. I agree that arborstone was a great server, but why do you think there problems had to do with the end of free transfers? I heard there were some discrepancies among their main wvsw alliance, so the collapse would have probably happened without the announcement of paid transfers.
and let me remind you that free transfers were responsible for servers to break apart. Far Shiverpeaks went from t1 to t7 after their guilds moved to blacktide and Sfr. Blacktide played a few weeks ago in t1 and is now third in t4 matchup with 1.600 points. Piken seems to be the next bandwagon server and i really hope they wont share the same fate like the last bandwagon server (blacktide)
Im really happy about the end of free transfers. We will have to wait some weeks, but after that the matchups will be balanced. I just hope the costs will be high enough to stop guilds from changing servers every week. The best solution would be a 1 week ban from wvsw after moving.
I dont understand the reasons why europeans should join american servers for wvsw.
We have 27 own servers, can play during our primetime( when the best fights are taking place), almost no server has any queues and we dont have any lagg issues.
Welcome Back Deso
Nice to have another international Server in T1. I personally am glad that elona is gone, who only impressed in kissing Vizunah kitten
You are a well known twaddler in the german forum. looks like you expand it to the english one now. Hope you stay here now(or were you finally banned by arenanet?)
i absolutely agree. Having only one pvp mode ist boring and in my opininon the main reason why spvp/tpvp is almost dead. warsong in wow was fun, hutball was the only reason i played swtor for about two months, really loved it. in comparison to this the guild wars 2 pvp ( except wvsw, which is awesome) is really lame. I really hope they wont just add new maps for the existing pvp mode. It won’t help. We need a new pvp mode. Some kind of deathmatch(arena) and capture the flag(warsong,hutball) would be a good beginning.
I think you can sum up T1 as follows…
SFR – the more skilled individual players but lacks numbers
ER – semi-skilled players and able to produce numbers from elsewhere on the map to rescue bad situations. ER will try and sneak attack places by coming in behind VS and SFR battles but do not have the numbers to always pull it off and as a result lose a lot of territory fast to VS.
VS – huge numbers but on the whole individually very weak (with the exception of one or two rare players who are very skillful). VS will wait until SFR and ER are fighting each other and then try to steal the win with shear numbers when all the hard work has been done by SFR or ER. SFR are often able to take out VS zergs twice the size in numbers but ER tend to get swamped by VS.
lol
let me guess, you are a sfr player?
my personal opinion(just like yours, so you can’t write “think you can sum up”)
elona: many noobs
vizunah:many noobs
sfr: even more noobs
they dont have to talk bout how good they are – they just prove it
you can say this too?
There are around 170 million people in the world speaking Portuguese, and around 98 million of people speaking German.
Why the Germans have their own serves and we don’t?
Number of language speaking people=potential guild wars 2 players?
387 million spanish speaking people around the world= can only fill 1 server
About 92 Million German speaking people= enough people for 7 servers
Close to 1 billion Mandarin speaking people=not enought for even 1 server
And the germans and french have their own servers because their mmo communitys are so big and it is financial useful for arenanet to give them thei rown servers. The possibility to speak german/french/spanish= more customers, who dont want or cant speak or write english.
And yes i wrote it many times. Arenanet did mistakes with serveral things, including national tagged servers, free server transfers and no region lock. But THEY didthe mistakes, so THEY have to solve it. If they dont want german/french speaking people to play on their own servers, they woulnd have tagged them. And having american guilds on eu servers, who nightcap (like they did at night 31st/1st and decided the matchup) is in my opinion an abuse of arenanet mistakes.
Logged out at about 6.00pm on the 31st. SFR was about hundred points behind Elona and about 3k points behind Vizunah. After celebrating the new year, sleeping until 4.30pm and logging in a hour later SRF was 16k points in front. So gz to RUIN 2.0(PRX) for deciding this matchup while the german and french were celebrating. 24 own us servers, but still prefer to kitten up the european ladder. gj
I have just fought a ER and a VZ – two small zergs who were working together to take bluebriar. I thought all this conspiracy theory stuff was a load of rubbish but I literally swear on anything you like… I just fought people with FR and DE in their tags fighting together against SFR – we still kicked them back into the lake but seriously guys? You both outnumber us hugely regardless of the number of pve players on your servers – it was still about 20 of you (combined) vs 9 of us. Admittedly when I normally see both your tags together you are fighting each other and I come in and take someone out on the sly… but this time you were genuinely, hand on heart, fighting together and not against each other… what gives?
i thought after 4 months since release the people would finally understand how wvswvsw works. If one server is attacking another, the third server has the possibility to attack the 1st or 2nd one. So there is a 50% chance that it’s 2vs1.
On SFR borderlands our bay and starting tower are permanently attacked by Vizunah and SFR and i didn’t see a single battle between these servers. Do you read any bullkitten from a elona player about teaming up between SR and Vizunah? No, because we know that we are the easiest target at the moment, because our bay and tower are not upgraded.(and being attacked by both enemy servers the whole time we dont get the chance to upgrade them) So it is logical that both servers are mainly attacking us.
There’s just too much speculation in this thread. Bring facts or shut you piehole.
Vizunah needs to quit their yapping about NA guilds. Anet approves of it and seeing as they made the game you really should just go with it. If you have complaints regarding this matter then report it to Anet.
“There will be 3 major regional designations for the release of Guild Wars 2:
• Europe: Defined as Western Europe and Eastern Europe. Players in these regions connect to the European datacenter.
•North America: Defined as Canada, Mexico, and the United States. Players in these regions connect to the North American datacenter.
•Other: Players in countries not listed above will connect to the North American datacenter.*
So you can see that the european ladder was supposed to be more regional, only for europeans, while the american ladder is global, for everybody outside europe.
Arenatet kittened it up with no region lock und free server transfers, so you have to deal with it that we complain about this unfair abuse of arenanets mistakes from servers like Desolation or SR until something changes. They have many possibilities to do this. Stopping free server transfers, region lock, merging us and european servers or removing the de/fr/es tags from the national servers.
it is and i will tell you why:
nightcapping is completly fine if you do it with a eu-only crew ’cause you have to pay a certain amount of effort to play at night
NA dont have to pay that effort due to timezones.
thats why ppl are against it, because it makes all the effort somewhat pointless.
I dont mind getting nightcapped by a server due to higher night-participation, cause they worked hard to get there so they deserve to win, atleast thats my opinion.
Last night was somewhat surprising, we had a 90+ raid with ~100% TS-participation, no clue where all these people came from all of the sudden, especially cuz it was like 1am^^
and no we didnt really wanted to PvD, but everytime we wanted to fight our enemys decided to port away, and yes, you still HAD people there at 1am
also, we’re still ticking +515 atm, so its not just our nightraids (4pm here)
btw, totally agree with wrex here, except for the part about elonian nightcappers, normally our night-participation is ~10 ppl spread over all borderlands (numbers taken of our global WvW Ts³ Server), not including yesterday which is definetly NOT normal^^
I agree and just want to add one point. I remember a discussion with a desolation player after RUIN joined desolation and you reached t1. He was proud and wrote about the effort and hard work desolation did to get there. I asked him, what exactly he meant with this. What was the effort. He answered, that “Desolation welcomed RUIN”. That was it, that was the “hard work”, he talked about.
The other servers, who won t1 (except SR, who also got american help), really had to work hard to reach this. Organizing a night- and morningcrew. (Xaoc, who didn’t play during their primetime- it was morning/evening for most of their russian players or the nightcrews from arborstone, vizunah and elona).
You also have the possibility to do this with your european players, but again, even after RUIN, you take the easy way and try to recruit overseas guilds again, knowing that a big american guild would destroy the european balance again. I haven’t seen a server with so many recruting threads here and on gw2guru like desolation. That’s why many people from french and german servers are kitten Because you are abusing the mistakes made by arenanet- free server transfers, no region lock, de/fr/es tagged servers, seperated eu and us servers.
Destroy europe balance?…KAZ legacy was on europe servers for a while now (probably from start) and they didn’t destroy europe balance
I didn’t talk about KAZ legacy. I don’t even know if they are spanish or south american. I’m absolutely fine with every european guild, which joins you. I’m talking about north american guilds like RUIN, who joined the european bracket for some easy pvdoor win. This is just pathetic in my opinion, because they have 24 own servers and if they are big enough(like RUIN was at the beginning) guilds like them destroy the european bracket balance.
it is and i will tell you why:
nightcapping is completly fine if you do it with a eu-only crew ’cause you have to pay a certain amount of effort to play at night
NA dont have to pay that effort due to timezones.
thats why ppl are against it, because it makes all the effort somewhat pointless.
I dont mind getting nightcapped by a server due to higher night-participation, cause they worked hard to get there so they deserve to win, atleast thats my opinion.
Last night was somewhat surprising, we had a 90+ raid with ~100% TS-participation, no clue where all these people came from all of the sudden, especially cuz it was like 1am^^
and no we didnt really wanted to PvD, but everytime we wanted to fight our enemys decided to port away, and yes, you still HAD people there at 1am
also, we’re still ticking +515 atm, so its not just our nightraids (4pm here)
btw, totally agree with wrex here, except for the part about elonian nightcappers, normally our night-participation is ~10 ppl spread over all borderlands (numbers taken of our global WvW Ts³ Server), not including yesterday which is definetly NOT normal^^
I agree and just want to add one point. I remember a discussion with a desolation player after RUIN joined desolation and you reached t1. He was proud and wrote about the effort and hard work desolation did to get there. I asked him, what exactly he meant with this. What was the effort. He answered, that “Desolation welcomed RUIN”. That was it, that was the “hard work”, he talked about.
The other servers, who won t1 (except SR, who also got american help), really had to work hard to reach this. Organizing a night- and morningcrew. (Xaoc, who didn’t play during their primetime- it was morning/evening for most of their russian players or the nightcrews from arborstone, vizunah and elona).
You also have the possibility to do this with your european players, but again, even after RUIN, you take the easy way and try to recruit overseas guilds again, knowing that a big american guild would destroy the european balance again. I haven’t seen a server with so many recruting threads here and on gw2guru like desolation. That’s why many people from french and german servers are kitten Because you are abusing the mistakes made by arenanet- free server transfers, no region lock, de/fr/es tagged servers, seperated eu and us servers.
Really impressed by Vizunah. I thought SR would win this matchup like many other servers did during their first week at t1 (Elona, Arborstone, Desolation, Blacktide) and drop down the next weeks. But seems like SR won’t make it, even with american pvdoor help.
They aren’t double-teaming, they are just taking opportunity to more easily capture an objective while we are busy with other server. We do it as well when we can…
^this on RS borderlands today
MS attacking hills and gandara always charging in our back :P
even thou that on RS borderlands it would be way more effective to attack the BL owner
Yeah Gandara didn’t attack us….. Thats why we lost bay and one of our towers to them during your hills attack…
the easy answer for this is you recruit to strengthen your numbers.
This is not possible. All german speaking countries (germany, austria and parts of switzerland) are in the same timezone. Recruiting people from the other german servers would mean horrible queues during primetime, so it wouldn’t be possible for guilds to join together. Before guild wars relseased riverside was chosen as the german “hardcore pvp server”. During the 24 hour matchups riverside was the fullest server. we had 3+ hour queues on each borderland and 5+ hour queus for the eternals during primetime. Once i had to wait 7! hours to join the eternals. Many people left riverside because of this. The same would happen to elona.
Just recruiting people who are playing at night/morning/midday (even if it would be possible, what i doubt) would mean to withdraw these players from the 6 other german servers. These servers would drop to the bottom of the rankings without any night/morning/midday coverage. I think its understandable people dont want to kill their servers doing this.
Game over already due to the many oversea guilds on SFR and Baruch.
Lol, so why are we ticking 3 times more than you in a timeslot where no oversea guild is playing? But well, that’s typical german behavior, giving up early. I want deso back!
You want to start another flame war? It’s fact. Live with it.
Also why you have more population? Maybe because SFR is an international server?
Nope, I don’t. I just cant stand that whiny behavior of german servers. Just face the battle, nothing to change here and try your best.
You mean like SFR fought last time they reached t2 and got dominated and nightcapped by arborstone? http://mos.millenium.org/servers/view/9/4
You barely reached the 200 points, even during primetime
This match is pretty pointless. SFR having russian(no problem with it) and now american (just pathetic) presence. How do you think we can compete with this as a 1 timezone server?
I can understand your feelings, but there is still no point in giving up.
Nobody is giving up. But you wrote that you are ticking with three times more points during morning/forenoon when no overseas guilds are playing. Maybe, just maybe the reason for this is, that most of us played yesterday till late at night, and have to sleep sometime. We have no americans who do the work for us during night, while our european players can sleep.
And if that is “typical german behaviour” may i ask for your nationality to write down some prejudices about it?
Game over already due to the many oversea guilds on SFR and Baruch.
Lol, so why are we ticking 3 times more than you in a timeslot where no oversea guild is playing? But well, that’s typical german behavior, giving up early. I want deso back!
You want to start another flame war? It’s fact. Live with it.
Also why you have more population? Maybe because SFR is an international server?
Nope, I don’t. I just cant stand that whiny behavior of german servers. Just face the battle, nothing to change here and try your best.
You mean like SFR fought last time they reached t2 and got dominated and nightcapped by arborstone? http://mos.millenium.org/servers/view/9/4
You barely reached the 200 points, even during primetime
This match is pretty pointless. SFR having russian(no problem with it) and now american (just pathetic) presence. How do you think we can compete with this as a 1 timezone server?
Hope you guys get things worked out regarding wvwvw population. We had same kind of issues few weeks back, now they are gone. we got queues to every borderland at eu primetime.
Anyways, there have been great battles all around. Be it eb or some bl. Yesterday seemed like both enemies lacked manpower they had at weekend.
WvW on Elonafels is not in a good place right now. For various reasons a lot of the regulars and people making up the numbers stick to fotm or do not play at all. No clue what’s going on on Deso.
Yeah, just ckecked all maps(18.10 CET). Undermanned Buff on Desolation and Seafarers borderlands. No queues on Elona and Eternal. I’m really suprised we on Elona cant even fill Eternal anymore:( Really dont know what is happening atm.
Shame Seafarers dont seem to come on this thread much. You guys seem to prefer the self congratulation and flaming on your community page.
I think in general you guys are great but before you flame deso remember we have no queue’s other than on one border for maybe two hours in the evening due to so many of our players joining ruin and then leaving with them.
You have had many guilds join you recently and have huge numbers so rather than flaming us, show some respect to the guilds who have stuck with desolation and not taken the easy path of a server transfer when times are hard.
The community page will always big up SFR, We have most of the Server on there so it’s bound to be biased. That aside i’d say most people from SFR respect are enemy’s, We’ve had some great fights just over the weekend.
I havn’t seen much flaming tbh mate, It’s great to see fights and guilds not giving up straight away after they’ve been wiped.
Please remember, Many of the core guilds you see in WvW today have contributed alot to SFR since launch, We toke this server on as bottom in the WvW rankings and we’ve turned it into a t2 server (When it was medium) we’ve now had a few guilds join us and i welcome them, Maybe we will get to t1 one day, And we can see how we do against them.
We respect are enemy, There had to be ALOT of rebuilding of SFR after we dropped out of T2, and we fought hard to get guilds to cover our weak points. If anything SFR success in WvW has to do with a community as a whole, we have alot of Skilled WvW guilds, who are always willing to help each other out.
If one Borderland is losing, That’s communicated though the PevePe.net Website and they get backup. That’s why you see us move in and out of borderlands alot.
Oh trust me I do remember mate. You guys in my opinion had and still have one of the top wvw communities, I remember well the last time we fought. You also stuck together when things were not so good. I love fighting you guys the organisation you bring to the table is superb.
Unfortunately although we are a high pop server we are not a wvw server. At the moment we are having to border hop in prime time just to try and get footholds in borders, and our whole guild can get straight into any border immediately, we also send commanders to EB to help out there.
I hope you guys get to tier one and give Blacktide a good fight. You remind me of them in alot of ways, great community with some top guilds.
Anyway I hope you don’t get all the pve’rs joining you for the buffs.
I think nearly every server has the problem with not being able to get the maps full, even during primetime. The new pve conent, people just leaving guild wars 2 or getting bored of wvsw, because there isn’t anything new since release. We on Elona had queus from 17.00-24.00 on every map, when we won the t1 matchup against Vizunah and Far Shiverpeaks. Now there isnt any queue anymore on both enemy borderlands during primetime. Even the waiting time for eternals went from 2-3 hours down to 20-30 minutes during primetime. There wasn’t even any queue on at least one borderland 2 weeks ago when we were winnig against arbostone and baruch bay. So that isn’t just a question of winning or loosing.
I think the only servers which dont have this problems are servers like Blacktide or SF, because many guilds from other servers (mainly Far shiverpeaks) joined them. Desolation dind’t get any big guilds, like Elona.
We have a thread in the german Forum about creating one or two german “superservers”(we cant recrute any people from other timezones, so that would be the only possibility), which can compete in t1 or t2 (like the french community did with arborstone and vizunah) but the majority dont like the idea. Most of the people prefer playing without queus than being in the highter tiers.
I really hope there will be a big wvsw update to get people back to wvsw. I think this would help particulary pve servers like desolation and elona.
So be happy in T1 without any enemy. Its not a big problem to rush over the enemy with quantity like most of the WvW guilds do.
Have fun and a nice week in T1
yee… i remember our time in t2 against ER, they ran away if they saw us even when they had bigger numbers, was much fun ~~
yee…. I remember our first t2 match against blacktide during european primetime before RG and the russian/east european far shiverpeaks guilds joined you, was much fun
(screen was taken at 21.00 CET, blacktide is red)
No offense. Blacktide ist the strongest server in quality and quantity at the moment. But a little less arrogance would do well-
There seems to be a great deal of speculation regarding RUIN in Europe, our intentions and objectives.
To set the record strait:
The official position on www.Ruinnation.com details our plans and guild objectives.
In regards to Guild Wars 2 Ruin has been in talks with guilds from Blacktide and Far Shiverpeaks (that later joined Blacktide) for several weeks.
There have been Ruin members on Blacktide in contact with most of the major guilds there for some time. Most of these members have been ordered not to have Ruin tags represented while we were engaged in transfers.
Ruin has been in the process of moving to Blacktide since the start of this week’s match up.
We do not claim to be responsible for the Blacktide’s victory in any way. At best only a handful of Ruin members have been on the battlefield on Blacktide, no more than 50-100.
Ruin ultimately plays for enjoyment and entertainment. As everyone should. Our officers and member base put in their maximum effort fighting Vizunah and Arborstone for two weeks putting in often 70-90 hours a week. This was not sustainable. No guild can be expected to cover four zones around the clock indefinitely.
I saw that your are moving to planetside 2 in a fews days. Can you clarify please on wich server you are going to play.( saying that u wont play on a eu server would be enough for me). I dont want to play accidentally together with you if i choose the wrong server. I mean, you guys are really funny and your guild is a big joke, but more than reading forum posts about your acts isn’t neccessary to give me a good laugh.
Rumour has it that IRON is on the verge of imploding, due to Cyanide being caught with their hand in the cookie jar……Wrex is trying to hold it together but not quite succeeding.
You shouldn’t believe every rumour you hear.
It does not matter if I believe the rumour or not, RUIN apparently do though, at least, that is their reason for switching server.
Their reason for switching servers is the same as before when they transfered to desolation. They want a easy win without any effort. They went to desolation with the knowledge no eu server has any significant overseas nightpresence, so they could nightcap everything during the last three weeks. Now Blacktide organized a nightteam/morningteam and so they actually have to fight against other humans, what they obviously dont want. I said it three weeks ago and i say it now. Ruin is the most pathetic guild i have ever met in a mmorpg.
I’m playing 90% of the time WvsWvsW and 10% spvp in Guild Wars 2. If the new gear is better then the exotics gear and i will be forced to go zo dungeons to stay competive in wvswvsw i will just quit this game. This is so unbelievable stupid. Make it buyable with karma/badges/gold or not usable in wvswvsw or you will loose many pvp players.
