Guild Wars 2

For the most part Grok is correct, if you don’t want to use a GS the axe build is the way to go. Axe/Mace + Axe/Sword is what most people use since your rage sig gives you more then enough fury and axe 5 is only a dps increase when its hitting 5+ enemies. What I like to do for a good dps increase is to throw a sigil of battle on one of your offhands then set weapon switch to mouse3 scroll for easy switching and might stacking.

Be sure to use the correct utility skills which generally are Signet of Fury, Disc Banner and, Endure Pain.

I’ve attempted to use this build and another similar build with more of the key traits that warriors need in spvp. The problem with this build is how much it relies on other people doing large amounts of burst damage in order for you to reflect it. More often then not I would just be spammed with conditions and lose even when I added strong condition removal the build just dosen’t have enough damage to work.

Its just how games work in the end there will always be a meta people will try to vary it but it’ll stay just about the same. I will kind of agree though since at the moment there is little variance even if you just want to screw around. Whats the solution? Anet needs to add some kitten utility skills to this game.

Often times Guild Wars 1 was explained as like a TCG of the MMO genre you get alot of skills but can only use a few as a time or “whats in your hand” that lead to amazing optimization for the meta players and amazing variation for casual players. But that didn’t come about immanently when GW1 was just prophecies those crazy SC’s weren’t a thing it was only after the expansions. that’s when they truly hit their height. So you want more variation? You want a better, more fulfilling meta? Get Anet to add same kitten skills.

Hey everyone knows we won’t get spears until Anet releases Elonia in GW2

It is but nice for new players just learning bosses since the block lasts longer if you know when to block though like I said earlier sword or mace is just better.

I tend to 1v1 a lot with buddies to test out new builds and this one made them all rage, I switched out FGJ for DS since I can’t stand not having stability but otherwise I was keeping up in damage easily and didn’t even really have to dodge roll conditanks op. I know you label it as a “support” build but really I wasn’t helping people much even when I saved my shouts for other people I didn’t help them much.

They won’t, don’t let the nerfs fool you warrior is still the devs favorite class and the Signet passive nerf really was needed I just wish they would do something with its terribad active.

I go 25 into arms for the 10% vs Bleeding foes and inspiring banners isn’t very useful unless your running some sort of banner regeneration build since most fights don’t really take place over that large of an area (or if they do its a larger area that that). Also Axe/Axe is fine for building adren but Axe MH out dps the offhand skills you should end up using your OH is a utility slot like OH sword for the block or mace for the AoE KD. You have to remember as well the base stats each line gives you. I run 30/25/0/10/5 grabbing Rending strikes in arms and Empowered in tactics (Which if i’m not mistaken is the current Axe only meta)

The point is if your useing an Axe/X the off hand is just for utility or assisting your main hand DPS which is why the vuln is nice, OH Sword gives you a block as well but it needs to be timed correctly. If your just starting in fracs or you don’t know a bosses tells OH shield is fine but if you can time the block OH sword is just better.

RoseofGilead.8907:

I wouldn’t do the skippable bosses for dragonite ore. I have way too much of it already. :\ Now, if it dropped dragonite ore AND, say, 25 to 50 silver, I’d do them.

One or the other i’d be down for silver or ore but both would give too much, especially by anet standards…

I find it funny how tough it was to ball mobs in GW1 because their AI would actually make them spread out unless pulled a particular way but in GW2 all you have to do is round a corner and the mobs blindly stand in AoEs ect. That being said I both agree and disagree with OPs post yea it can be annoying how some people play but who are you to tell them how to play the game? Stack if you want clear if you want.

This guy posted basically the same thing in the warrior forum whats with your fixation on spears lol.

Yea the main way to maximize dps with swords is by running a hybrid build and its still less dps then straight Axe or Axe/GS. You might not do terrible damage but with the upcoming zerker nerf maxing dps is just going to be that much more important.

Arcing shot really needed a nerf but the pin down nerf was too much IMO Warriors burst with the bow is still great for applying pressure on a point and if your conditank (Which is quickly rising in popularity for warriors) the damage is hard to ignore.

alchemyst.2165:

Well, for one thing, Warriors being incredibly mobile just doesn’t make sense. Heavy classes should be slower, with their heavy clanky gear weighing them down. Not really trying to qq here, because a lot of the times I can kill a warrior on my main (thief) just takes a long time to do so because they are either very tanky, have a mobile weapon, or both.

Warriors are supposed to be masters of melee, Mobility is a necessity and its not surprising they get a lot of it…

Pure axe is actually close to the damage of Axe/X – GS if built right I sometimes go lazy warrior myself

Yea but this guys using a power build with a sword which is just not good enough damage…

You have to make it worth peoples time, I for one would still skip extra bosses if they dropped 10 ores…

The problem with sword is in order to do max damage you need some condition damage, Unless your only using it for mobility which would mean your wasting a whole set for something that’s just not worth it. Axe is just better when it comes to a zerker build. Also desperate power isn’t something id recommend you have a crip why not just use leg specialist?

Abe Kleine.3568:

Zanshin.5379:

Yeah and on the other end a lot of guardians will reroll warrior.

Have you been to the Guardian section of the forums? People are rerolling for warrior as we speak, I’m doing it too. I’ve been told it’s actually FUN to play warrior, and since playing guardian has turned into a chore, I’ll be rerolling for a cute little asura warrior. I’ve learned that there’s no reason to play a class that none of the devs understand, or even play as and literally believe “are in a good spot” when the entire community is screaming “NO”. I heard that on one of there latest livestreams, I instantly made my new warrior after that. Been playing this game long enough to learn that nothing good will come by just waitin’ for the devs to fix your class.

Welcome to Anet where the devs don’t care and the community doesn’t matter! Who’s game is it anyway?

Staff warrior apparently makes the class a twisted hybrid of Wukong and Fizz lol. Throw the stick man kittening sour stomach and I can’t stop laughing, thanks =_=.

I get why you blocked your chat but, it would of been nice to see the combat log.

The problems in the content and mechanics, not the builds. Its already been said in this thread but ill repeat it. Nerfing the meta won’t make the content fun it’ll just make it take longer.

Mydnyght.5026:

On the same topic, while I’m not familiar with PVE I understood that full zerk is a viable choice for dungeons though I’m wondering, is full berserker enough to survive in fractals ? or does it decrease survivability to the point you just chain death and have hard time surviving in pug ?

If that’s the case what are the minimum defensive stats require to do well in fractals ?

Thanks

It really depends on the pug group if your in a good one zerking is preferable in fractals just make sure you know what to evade. I generally bring a set of tank armor in case the group i’m in just doesn’t cut it and i’m forced to revive a lot.

guanlongwucaii.3162:

you don’t need offhand sword for most bossfights, especially when in a party.

Yea your right for the most part and the extra vlun from the mace is nice but if you have an engineer stacking vlun mace is completely useless in those fight so its nice to just have, an in case of emergency thing.

Eh it depends if your just trying to cheese with a killshot build you don’t really need to trait into rifle. But in the end I agree with the guy who mentioned Sigil of Intelligence, that’s just going to be better overall.

Yea if the patch after this doesn’t give warriors something i’m probably just going to reroll. Warriors are about sustaining in fights I mean hell their a heavy class but i’m just getting sick of warriors getting nothing interesting. I’ve been running the same Hammer + Axe/Sheild build in spvp since launch and looking at these new traits nothing’s going to change, again.

The problem with using longbow and Sword/x is that its just less damage then axe/x and GS and with the current mechanics the game has in place those tank stats are just wasted :/.

Agreed with all the above statements but remember during those single mob boss fights its better to switch out your mace with a sword for the block.

Julie Yann.5379:

Anet said that this is just the first step to make other types of build viable and purge the “GO FULL ZERK OR GTFO” movement that has been plaguing the game since launch. I hope it works, getting sick of these PvE meta builds.

These “PvE meta builds” come from how Anets set up the mechanics of the game. Look up a few threads, it’s really a vicious circle.

Dodging needs to be relevant leads to mobs with big attacks leads to tank builds still getting 1-2 shot leads to zerk and dodge being the best course of action, put simply.

Carpboy’s acting like a kitten but he makes a point health isn’t everything and in the condi tank world that is pvp you really need some removal.

At least as far as Eviscerate is concerned a smart player will just use Sigil of Intelligence and not bother with 30pts into power, especially in spvp. That being said i’m sure ill be playing it with those cheesy rifle builds.

Agreed. Zerker/Sin armor will still be the highest form of damage and as long as GW2 mechanics remain the same max damage/timed rolls will still be the way to go.

This sounds fun, also complete agreement with the zerk req. I get the feeling some ppl underestimate just how long a War vs. War fight can last otherwise…

Also I’d prefer dueling so if your going to do another one of these keep that in mind. Best of luck warriors!

Go look up some builds from intothemist.com to get an idea of a few different warrior builds and please spell check. Your build needs a lot of work.

P.S. I’m not trying to sound like a kitten but the amount of things i’d need to type would make a wall of text. I’ts just easier to use that site to get a good idea of what some of the top builds are in pvp.

I don’t know if I should laugh or cry at this post…

Honestly the first thing that brought me over to warriors was how funny the thought of shouts. “oh no I’m poisoned” says the random person “SHAKE IT OFF” says the warrior “oh wait never mind”. Honestly who doesn’t want to scream off conditions?

Berserker warriors do amazing damage and I apologize for not specifying that when I talk about tank warriors doing great damage i’m talking about spvp. Also when it comes to burst damage warriors are not “one of the lowest dps classes” by the by my main is warrior.

The normal intance zerker build (for the most part) is spamming axe auto + 100b freeing the off hand as more of a utility slot. That being said axe is the worst when it comes to filling that role warhorn giving sprint for in between pulls, mace giving aoe KD and sword giving a block. That being said the only time I would bother with using optimized builds is when your grouping in speed clears and that’s only because is rude to use a homebrew build hindering other people. In the end though you play how you want since its a game and its meant to be fun, something too many people tend to forget.

Anet likes to make promises then release partial patches, just look at spvp atm.

Sustaining in longer fights is what warriors are about we get no neat tricks like stealth ect. I for one think the passive nerf needs an active buff and if anything warriors need a damage nerf since I can go full tank and literally just never dodge take everything then Eviscerate for 10k.

I feel like the current meta in spvp being condition tanks (for the most part) atm kinda makes this build iffy since it seems a lot of your dmg is coming from you timing your DS Blocks ect. during their burst which alot of condi tanks just don’t have. But that being said I haven’t tried it yet so this post may see an edit.

cos i mainly PvE, do u know whether if any other class builds would surpass warriors?

If you don’t mind having a super low health pool zerk ele’s can abuse the fiery GS rush glitch and do just as much if not more burst then a warrior (or any class IMO).

I agree and disagree on the necessity of a trinity. My meaning is there will always be a need for roles to be filled, Having everyone just being a jack of all trades class makes for confusion and often failure in most casual groups. At the same time though those roles being forced onto certain classes such as in WoW limits the variety a group can have.

In my opinion having those roles in the game but allowing them to be filled by any class if spec’d properly would make for some interesting and fun groups. Yllowing casual players to play any role they want and hardcore players to search and maximize on which classes fit which roles in a given instance.

I like the skill thoughts but their should be any fire unless its going with a combo field. I Think it would look better inflicting Vulnerability, Kind of a throw back to Deep Wound from GW1.

I normally use the Icy Dragon sword and Shield of the Wing but Fiery and Icy Dragon swords look a lot cooler IMO.