Guild Wars 2

Shanks.2907:

Shieldbash.5304:

Shanks.2907:

Shieldbash.5304:

So warriors don’t suck, because you like being a subpar class that run around buff botting? Guardians take more damage, have better buffs, better mitigation, better cc, and do more damage!

Guardians do not have better CC, not even close. If that’s something you want, warrior has a clear advantage with things like hammer stuns and the immobilizes from sword F1 and Pindown. Guardian buffs in general are more defensive while warrior buffs tend to be offensive. Good luck working swiftness or movement speed into a guardian build, but a warrior will never have any issues with it. A guardian can be kited around with ease.

Maybe so, however the Guardian will also regen and not die while being kited whilst the Warrior will fall over and die in between mobility cds. Warriors are easily dispatched in comparison and Guardians can push out more dps.

Right. That 5s of regen a medizerk might have is going to do a lot of healing. Unless you’re talking about a bunker but then they aren’t doing the damage you were mentioning.

I take it you’re talking about the 2k healing from meditations (Monk’s Focus) in which you get from using them. Not a whole lot different from shoutbow warriors healing themselves while Healing Signet ticks for 370hp a second. Oh, and shouts heal your team unlike meditations.

Not to try and start a balance war here or anything, but each class is built to sustain itself in some way even though they’re different. A warrior starts out with 8k hp more than a guardian with different mechanics to sustain it. Does a medizerk counter warriors in general? Yeah, for the most part. But they aren’t very hard to beat if you’ve played them yourself instead of blindly comparing/complaining.

Wow, reading that makes me want to stop playing Warrior! I think I’ll try other classes as that sums up a Horrible experience….

Totbot.4583:

Shieldbash.5304:

Its pathetic that the only way a Warrior can be viable is to shoot from range being a MELEE class!

Warrior isn’t a “melee” class. It has never been defined as a “melee” class since it has had Bow and Rifle available since the game game first came out. Every class has options for melee weapons and range weapons (although how well balanced those options are is up for debate),

It should also be pointed out that every bow build also uses melee weapons. Axebow uses an axe. Shoutbow uses a sword. Hambow uses, wait for it….wait for it….a hammer. Half of the build is still designed around melee weapons.

If you say so

Vizardlorde.8243:

BurrTheKing.8571:

Sagramor.7395:

Sword is a hybrid weapon that’s great for staying on target and keeping pressure on. Long duration bleeds and Cripple on the auto-attack, Cripple and Leap on #2, and #3 hits just as hard as a full adrenaline Eviscerate if target is <50% health. So while it may not appear to do much damage, when put in the right build it can be pretty potent.

Shield may look pretty vanilla, but consider what it offers. #5 is essentially one second shy of Endure Pain without the stun break on half the CD. #4 is both a stun and leap finisher. So not only is it a great hard CC to stop a heal, burst, rez, or stomp or setup for a Final Thrust/Eviscerate, but if you use it in a field you get a nice bonus.

Sword is probably the most under-appreciated Warrior weapon. I mean soft CC (that can be buffed with a minor trait), a gap closer on a low CD, and a high damage finisher on one weapon? Yes please. Let’s not forget that the burst isn’t bad as well.

I tried the Sw/Wh shoutbow build and I found the sword to be an amazing weapon.

What build is that?

Thats my problem I hate cookie cutter builds, just seems should be a viable build for all weapon choices?

I’ll try both, I wish Sword did more damage, also Shield seem useless in the game? I like axe / mace / 2 hand hammer isnt bad

Should have nerfed 100b not Warriors!

Well in defense of angry players frustrated, there is a tick mark in Profanity Filtering, you must un check this to see profanity…

I don’t see why one would uncheck the filter then be offended by it? I smell a Liberal!

Rym.1469:

Master Major Defense trait:

“If you interrupt or block an attack, your Shield Bash halves it’s current cooldown and does 250% more damage on the next use” ICD 5 seconds.

That would make shield worthy!

As a Warrior, i am happy my multiple easy deaths have gave you great joy!

Tom Gore.4035:

Nice to see the OP kept his own language so clean and mature.

Right? Guy posts a pic complaining he’s offended yet pot calling the kettle black!

Lazaar.9123:

I swear, there seems to be a thread for each class that says they are overpowered.

Wheres the Warrior is OP thread?

My latest build I am trying is Axe/ Axe – Sword / Mace, I use bull charge when I have axes for mobility change to swords for leap and bleeds, knock downs then change back to axes for my damage…

Something like this http://intothemists.com/calc/?build=-s77FB0-NKkO0d4oK-60;9;499T-J2;00;018B;129n

I change to Sword / Shield and change out Dogged march for Missle Deflection and try and assist where I can!

Been trying a plethora of builds a similar one to this and I found i needed mobile strike as I was continuously rooted over and over, the swords do pretty pathetic damage, conditions are easily removed by most classes, impale is great, riposte was not very useful as most people fight at range anyway. I had better luck with sword / mace for the knockdown that has considerable range for multiple targets.

I am not a fan of LB even though its great, I just don’t like the style…

Who knows, I die more often then killing unless I have help so….

I hate using ranged weapons as a Melee Class it just feels wrong, I also cannot stand Great Swords! I hate them, I hate the abilities, I hate the looks and dumb animations…

I carry all the other weapons in my inventory changing around trying all kinds of different set ups. I don’t want to be a party buff bot, I don’t want to be a Ranger with heavy armor. I am killed so easily its almost comical, even trying to dps another dps its seems my dps is just lower and unless I get help I will die by attrition because I have to try 5 times harder to land attacks then everyone else..

Even trying to kill Engi Turrets takes to long! I mean their pets right? Why are they not effected by CC? Or Conditions? They also seem to have better damage mitigation then i do…

I can spec for roots, or high mobility, or even fear break and temporary damage immunity however at great cost of dps which I already lack? I don’t see other classes gimping themselves to be viable as much as Warriors have to?

Do you have to be a buff bot?

Do you have to use a lame Great Sword?

Do you have to be some tricky, quirky Warrior to be successful?

I run out ranged classes take 20% of my hp each shot, i fail to see how I am a warrior it feels more like a meat shield thats quickly dispatched that annoys other players with subpar damage! When I get to my target lock them down with a mace, shield, immobilize etc, my hits should be awesome…… Yet my attacks hit like wet pillows!

Nice video, I just hate GS so much I refuse to use it… I wish we could see some great videos with other weapons showing viability?

Playing a Warrior right now against skilled players is masochism!

witcher.3197:

Just a tip, never use an off-hand axe. Ever. And there are so many better sigils than force for pvp.

Shieldbash.5304:

Another LB build…. Sad day! Why would you roll a Warrior to shoot a bow 70% of the time?

“another” – this is a pretty old build, also i don’t think you get the concept of PvP builds if you don’t know why longbow is something you can’t play without. :P

You don’t understand being facetious, I said another meaning, that what EVERY Warrior uses… Its pathetic that the only way a Warrior can be viable is to shoot from range being a MELEE class!

Another LB build…. Sad day! Why would you roll a Warrior to shoot a bow 70% of the time?

Mintyfresh.3674:

If you take the time to notice, it’s actually the same people that keep making threads or commenting about their complaints over and over again. In reality I feel like the majority of the warrior population and this forum are pretty satisfied. I know i am…

Fully geared Warriors with cookie cutter builds and a great team are happy yes! The rest of us are fodder…

Scoobaniec.9561:

Yeah it was called diversity. Now what? Hambow, shoutbow, kittenbow, f..u..bow. Anything else has no place in spvp in current state if you want to be competitive.

That’s the problem in and of itself! The fact that a MELEE ClASS needs to shoot from range to be competitive is a paradox of fail!

That would be like Elementalists needing to run in and melee to be useful!

Might as well make Warriors pets, we’ll just tag along and buff our Overlords!

Shanks.2907:

Shieldbash.5304:

So warriors don’t suck, because you like being a subpar class that run around buff botting? Guardians take more damage, have better buffs, better mitigation, better cc, and do more damage!

Guardians do not have better CC, not even close. If that’s something you want, warrior has a clear advantage with things like hammer stuns and the immobilizes from sword F1 and Pindown. Guardian buffs in general are more defensive while warrior buffs tend to be offensive. Good luck working swiftness or movement speed into a guardian build, but a warrior will never have any issues with it. A guardian can be kited around with ease.

Maybe so, however the Guardian will also regen and not die while being kited whilst the Warrior will fall over and die in between mobility cds. Warriors are easily dispatched in comparison and Guardians can push out more dps.

Larynx.2453:

Shieldbash.5304:

unless you’re another of the 1 million Longbow Warriors that should have rolled Ranger shooting from afar like a Warrior wuss!

ie, literally any viable warrior build in spvp

Did you know that mesmers are complete garbage? You do no damage and can’t hold a point unless you play one of those thief-wannabe power builds. Did you also know that if you arbitrarily ignore class mechanics when considering viability, any profession can suddenly become kitten?

Not so, Condition based Mesmer going invisible and running 50 feet away every 5 seconds are stupid… Pop decoys invisible pop out who knows where cast, cast, decoys, go invisible pop out further away 180 degrees, cast, cast decoys repeat… Melee classes are stuck running a muck playing WackaMole!

Silv.9207:

Warrior is god in pve, spvp and www.
In pve and dungeon everyone wanti you to play as a berserker with GS and axe, granting banners and a lot of might. The warrior’s dps is one of the highest of the game, that’s why everyone want you to only be a dps class, no more.
In www the current meta is Sword/Warhorn + Hammer build with shouts. That grant condi removal, heal, AoE swiftness and CC skills with hammer. But you can also play semi-berserker with GS and Axe/Shield, with incredible burst damage on eviscerate (you can one-shot a zerk thief XD).
In sPvP the meta is almost the same, but with Longbow to obtain might with the firefield and deal pressure damage with burn. Hammer/longbow is one of the best builds, also Shoutbow can be very good (the same as www but with longbow) and if you want you can try axe/shield + LB to fight with eviscerate.

All that builds work very well, deal high damage, have high mobility and/or survavibility.

Warrior is very good atm.

This entire comment is filled with Wrong!

mPascoal.4258:

Marthkus.4615:

As far as I can tell the class only has problems on the forums, and not even on all of the forums. Just this one, where a few posters actively QQ on every thread.

In game and according to all the real people I talk with, Warriors are great.

^This
Still wanted in all pugs groups for Dgn’s, still wanted in organized groups for Dgn’s
Has been part of the meta in PvP for a long time, with either Hambow, Axebow before adrenaline changes and nowadays with Shoutbow (Hambow still pretty good, it plays a different role than Shoutbow, role that Shoutbow with the meta on other classes plays better).
And in WvW is also great. One of the best at roaming and one of the most wanted for Zerging too.

IMO Warrior has been great, the balance patches hit it with a couple of nerfs but nothing the class didn’t deserve (most of them, I still didn’t get the GS nerf but ..) and it can be fun to play. I’m getting bored of my Guardian and Warrior is one of the biggest contestants to go as my main

Still wanted for buffs!

Thats like bringing your wife camping then telling her not to hang with you just stand over their and do dishes! Not fun!

From my limited experience Warrior are fun but easily countered, and easily dispatched. Sure you can be semi successful if you have a pocket healer and a Guardian removing conditions off you, but most the time you will be focused down and killed within seconds unless you’re another of the 1 million Longbow Warriors that should have rolled Ranger shooting from afar like a Warrior wuss!

Engineers Rocket Turret does pretty much the same damage as us, is immune to cc, and conditions and has better damage mitigation…. We are out played by a stationary pet!

Great, I rolled Warrior so I can run around being fodder to the ranged classes and buff my team over and over making grave yards trips over an over…. Warrior needs some help!

Amiron.1067:

Anyone that tells you warrior that the profession is subpar has no idea what they’re talking about. Sure, we’re not top damage, but that’s not as important as the buffs we bring to groups. Banners are fantastic, and I find myself often running a Phalanx build to help give my team 25 stacks of might.

I’m no pro-sPvPer, but I’ve been really enjoying my GS/Longbow build (4/0/6/0/4 traits) especially after the GS adrenaline burst 10% buff. And to think Warrior’s can’t bring anything to a WvW zerg/havoc group either is an ignorant thought.

Overall, Warriors are a great profession. Don’t let the nerfs we received a while back scare you away from playing one of the best offensive support professions around. If you’re looking for advice, PM me! I’d be happy to offer all the tips I know.

So warriors don’t suck, because you like being a subpar class that run around buff botting? Guardians take more damage, have better buffs, better mitigation, better cc, and do more damage!

Yea, as I see it I like sword for bleeding, it would be nice to have it stack less often but be harder to cleanse.

Yea Sag, pretty cool, I’ll check out both Shout and this spec you gave me…

I like the option! Would be cool to have primary abilities based on shield!

Could be cool think of the versatility

Shield Throw: silence, disrupt, or snare

Shield Phalanx: Shields team in xxx radius for xxx amount of damage giving AOE mitigation

Fire Shield – fire damage and burn damage

Spike Shield – snare and bleed damage

Ice Shield – Chill and frost damage

Shield Barrage – a flurry of 3 quick shield bash attacks increasing in damage

DontJudgeMe.3958:

I’ll just repeat what Sagramor said mostly.

1. In GW2 (as stated before) you don’t rely on stats to dodge for you. You are in charge of dodging and managing your endurance. Same goes for blocking, other MMO’s simply… Would you rather win a fight because you perfectly used your block at the exact timing when it was needed, or would you rather lose a fight because the RNG% for blocking failed on you?

2. As stated above. Sure you can get rid of bleeding, but the sword applies bleeding on almost every auto attack (every 3rd applies a cripple). Condition (these are things like bleed, poison, confusion etc etc) build on warriors have become slowly more popular in the WvW roaming scene and a mix of it in PvP as well (longbow applying bleeds and burn).

3. PvE (at the moment, the upcoming expansion can change this) is simply a place where doing the most damage you can is the best build, most damage simply comes from a good rotation (at the moment GS + Axe/Mace).
However in sPvP? People say GS is bad, don’t use GS, when I enter a match and another warrior says “GS? Really?” I ask him after the x’th amount of time after I killed him “Leave the dark side, come back to the way Warrior is meant to be played. Stand with me brother, for together we shall cleanse the disease called Longbow warriors.”
In WvW? Thieves hate me, mesmers flame me, engineers get confused by me, rangers detest me, guardians sheek shelter from me, necromancers fear me, elementalists mistform back into their tower from me. This is what a warrior is when played the way you want to play him with the weapons you want to play him.

What is your set up may I ask? I hate cookie cutter builds, and find it ruins the diversity of game play. However I also don’t want to be a lame duck either just feeding the enemy kills while I wallow around.

I really like Sword / Shield as it “Feels” like a Warrior, just wish the shield attacks were on a lowered CD, or the Shield gave a better armor bonus ( damage mitigation).

It seems Guardians can do everything a Warrior can but better and survive longer while buffing, healing, protecting? Maybe i am wrong….

I’ll keep leveling and see how it goes!

Ooooh, that sounds good! I shall research this, I want to be decently survivable, and be able to do some good damage no glass cannon stuff. I kind of would like to be a run in smash bash crash get people dotted and run out…

Ty for reply

I just started playing this week, I will not act is if I know anything! My son plays and has 2 80 characters so he’s helping me learn game mechanics.

Questions:

1. I started a Warrior because it said easy to play and I figured I wanted to learn the game, also because I like having a shield. However it seems the shield is no more a shield then just another weapon with armor on it? Why does the shield not give block %, or extra dodge %? Kind of bums me out wanting to be a badarse tanky guy and my shield does nothing but stun on long cd with short range, and block for 3 sec.s with long cd!

2. I started playing with sword and axe as I liked the bleeds really help when i am stunned or knocked down kited etc. and then I can Whirlwind with axe when i get over whelmed, however I am told bleeds can and are easily removed?

Why have bleeds as a damage multiplier if they’re removed by every class so easily? So disappointing as I really wanted to be a bleed warrior… It seems everyone is a Great Sword I hate GS!

3. Will I end up ultimately becoming a cookie cutter for lack of viable diversity as a Warrior? PvP is my focus, PvE secondary to me. It really seems all Warriors play the same spec with the same gear and the same weapon?

Thanks for any input, I am level 20 right now like the game the slow run speeds are annoying but the game play and combat are refreshing. Just wondering if I should make another class, because I don’t want to be another GS wielding Warrior standing a post!