Guild Wars 2

Fight club was a small turn out but as disappointed as I was at first I enjoyed talking with the ones that did show. Mugen, Snavenhoj and members of [BV] much respect.

Devon.9061:

Silas Drake.8946:

Lotus.9746:

Devon.9061:

Justine.6351:

Bllade.1029:

Justine.6351:

Portaled SF BL Bay inner half hour ago ;-)
Think you are right on not caring cause I saw no sweep.
Nearly had inner hills in SF BL but they got me after 5min ;-(

Pssssssssst. No one cares.

Sincerely,

Everyone.

Psssssssssst. Why respond then.

Sincerely,

Me.

Psssssssssst. Can I join?

Sincerely,

A Lonely Cucumber

Psssssssssssst. Let me in too.

Sincerely,

Worse Ele NA.

Btw, VLK hosting fight club Thursday 9PM EST Yaks Bend BL.

Buncha Fing dorks.

I don’t want “in” unless we are talking pantless various options, otherwise just here to support fightclub for any day of the week.

/inb4igetmoreinfractions

Are you mad cause I left you naked that one night? I said I was sorry!!!!!

More because, unsatisfied.

Lotus.9746:

Devon.9061:

Justine.6351:

Bllade.1029:

Justine.6351:

Portaled SF BL Bay inner half hour ago ;-)
Think you are right on not caring cause I saw no sweep.
Nearly had inner hills in SF BL but they got me after 5min ;-(

Pssssssssst. No one cares.

Sincerely,

Everyone.

Psssssssssst. Why respond then.

Sincerely,

Me.

Psssssssssst. Can I join?

Sincerely,

A Lonely Cucumber

Psssssssssssst. Let me in too.

Sincerely,

Worse Ele NA.

Btw, VLK hosting fight club Thursday 9PM EST Yaks Bend BL.

Buncha Fing dorks.

I don’t want “in” unless we are talking pantless various options, otherwise just here to support fightclub for any day of the week.

/inb4igetmoreinfractions

Phase 1: engage target, spawn phantasms, gain position, watch targets counter strategy.

Phase 2: utilize stealth, distance, and avoidance abilities waiting for offensive cooldowns.

Phase 3: repeat 1 and 2.

I think its just monkey see monkey do, I call em YouTube clones. If o
Osi posted a new batch of shatter videos you’d see shatter YouTube clones weed up.

I like seeing the direction some people are taking the interrupt builds. I’d like to also see some glassy phantasm or shatter builds showcase the traveler runes. They are doing wonders for the dps guardian who previously shared our plight of slow movement.

Mepheles.2087:

I was just leading a guardian and thief around for like 20m and it only ended when like 4 more people came. So hilarious. Warrior #1 mobility NA 2013

/golfclap

Boring roaming, excited for Thursday.

I have a brand new lv 80 guardian. He is basicly a additional storage bot.

Got the purple fever.

Glad the SAB comes out Tuesday.

Devon.9061:

Bllades is gay <.<.
And I love Winter.
That is all.

O_o

This thread is why OMFG is my new favor thing.

The training opportunity to learn how to fight vs different builds and style is a dream come true. A educated Mesmer is a very dangerous Mesmer.

I don’t have as much time as I’d like but what time I have ill gladly dedicate tword this particular avenue.

Do you guys even read what you’re about to post before you post it?

I also love the hypocrisy certain people just diarrhea from their face.

I need aspirin for this drivel.

Gotta love that Mesmer spirit.

In game name: Phorfietz
Server: Henge of Denravi
Roll: Instructor

Many hours WvW and SPvP. Had the pleasure of learning the ropes from Seven Mirror so I specialize in Non-shatter builds.

Mepheles.2087:

Silas, don’t be jelly. btw nice zerg in the HoD BL.

If I were to be a preservative I think I would be apple in nature. However unfortunate that’s not the case.

Zerg blah blah blah AC blah blah blah. Can fill the rest in with yolos and swags.

Wish I could say I’ve even seen you on the field, but its hard to identify small objects fleeing in the distance when I’m so sleepily bored. Maybe old, probably both.

/pass

King Amadaeus.8619:

Silas Drake.8946:

Man, you know this thread is dull when half the post are from the same screwball and not even on a second page yet.

Yeah and essentially from only 1-2 servers….Our apologies but SF refuses to discuss and/or argue over things like:

“Golem rushed your bay!!1111!!”
“I capped your tower!”
“PPT”
“Whose winning”

We are enjoying the fights, and the outmanned buffs. Have had fun so far this week. Well when we are not dodging AC fire from everything…But that is to be expected at these tiers.

Had a blast commanding in EB yesterday evening, even turtled up Durios a few times, until SE got too organized for us and wiped us out. Ninja’d it back later though so “world kept on spinning”. Had some great fights, and then later on DH/HoD BLs with my thief just roaming.

My only request is less “Siege Wars 2” more open field fights guys.

Or like “they only know how to siege”. I feel ya brah, hard being so classy.

\o/ 2nd page.

Man, you know this thread is dull when half the post are from the same screwball and not even on a second page yet.

Night crew has been doing work, and it shows.

JahRo.6432:

Laughed my kitten off roaming around this morning. Many /surprised’s were had.

Saw a lot of TFH this morning, sorry for stalking your group around EB and to the two KAOS guys that stuck with me, you guys rock ^^

/surprised
/surprised
/surprised
/surprised
/surprised

Gets me laughing erry time.

KTDannyCZ.2910:

Now you are going to make me go make a thief vid.. Give me a few days for the Zergfest reset night to end then I will start recording.

Morn just jelly cuz I forgot how to play theef

Have to learn something to forget it.

I’ll portal bomb winter into your pants.

Troll post, moving on.

Confusion is still my favorite condition. Calling it amazing is a stretch however. It only bursts if your opponents make it burst. Confusion is interesting as it completely puts how much or how little damage it does out of your hands.

Agreed that for iMage to be “amazing” it needs to apply faster or cast faster or give more. They can even take out the retal part and make it only bounce on enemies.

I’d love to see some change to iMage.

2 more stacks of confusion making it a 5 stack(still not great, but better)

Maybe random conditions on cast and faster attack speed, something.

If it would cast some aoe poison I’d marry it =)

It’s very frustrating when they run off cause every class can, and will run away from you. I run a no swiftness build as well and solo roam. I just dont bother with the “chase” anymore unless I have them really low and still in range. A blink or well placed phase can keep you on them long enough to seal the deal, but not always.

If they run away however IMO you won.

JahRo.6432:

You mouthbreathers need to calm down, mkay

Mmmkaaay

Good luck keeping up with Winters spam. Your fingers will fall off.

Make black powder a dark field for a day.

@Obscure one, Your argument/point of view makes no sense.

Obscure One.4357:

Dan.2940:

Obscure One.4357:

Silas Drake.8946:

Obscure One.4357:

mrmadhaze.8706:

Misinformation. Misinformation everywhere.

Yeap.

Clarifications
Stealth is a defensive means of mitigating damage by becoming untargetable. Stealth grants neither invulnerability nor stability. Note skills with long warm up times that are activated while the target is visible and then gains stealth during that time are not interrupted and target as normal. Subsequent attempts to target (or generally know where the player is) are nullified for the duration of said stealth, thereby mitigating direct damage by up to 100% depending on how well the attacking player can predict the position of an invisible target.

Just wanna throw this in there. Some attack need a target to active, not everything is melee sweeping auto attack or ground targetable. Also stealth provides(spec provided) a lot of condition removal, tons of healing over time, and in the case of say my Mesmer boons.

If stealth didn’t provide so much outside of its targeting issues and gaining the stealther position I think we would have a whole new conversation.

Imagine no healing and free offensive conditions removal in some way. Or even a penalty for healing.

I hope one day a mmo comes around without a pure invisible mechanic for stealth. It only brings headaches for both user and victim.
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Incorrect

You are associating the things the Thief can do when activating or while being stealthed to the stealth effect itself. Stealth does not inherently cure conditions nor provide healing.

Stealth can provide healing if traited for it, Shadow Refuge also heals you while activated.

Exactly. A Thief trait and a Thief skill that trigger when entering or while being stealthed. These are not mechanics of Stealth itself they are mechanics of the class.

Weapons don’t do damage unless you push the buttons ether. Reguardless reading everything is probably a good idea beforehand.

Thieves have no stealth that only provides invisibility. Damage, blinds, healing, teleport are tied to it aswell. The only pure invisibility only stealth abilities I can think of off the top of my head is vale and mass invisibility. They do however provide for multiple player stealth. So arguing stealth as a sole mechanic wouldn’t make sense with out factoring in its built in advantages that when combained sometimes provides too much.

More important question, how many sets have you had to trash or slavage just tl make room for more?

Moment of silence for all lost gear /cry

Obscure One.4357:

mrmadhaze.8706:

Misinformation. Misinformation everywhere.

Yeap.

Clarifications
Stealth is a defensive means of mitigating damage by becoming untargetable. Stealth grants neither invulnerability nor stability. Note skills with long warm up times that are activated while the target is visible and then gains stealth during that time are not interrupted and target as normal. Subsequent attempts to target (or generally know where the player is) are nullified for the duration of said stealth, thereby mitigating direct damage by up to 100% depending on how well the attacking player can predict the position of an invisible target.

Just wanna throw this in there. Some attack need a target to active, not everything is melee sweeping auto attack or ground targetable. Also stealth provides(spec provided) a lot of condition removal, tons of healing over time, and in the case of say my Mesmer boons.

If stealth didn’t provide so much outside of its targeting issues and gaining the stealther position I think we would have a whole new conversation.

Imagine no healing and free offensive conditions removal in some way. Or even a penalty for healing.

I hope one day a mmo comes around without a pure invisible mechanic for stealth. It only brings headaches for both user and victim.
.

Man I hope stealth in this game isn’t as bad as it was in GW2.

…oh wait, F.

I have been flipping between 20/20/30 and 20/0/30/20 and have been running the latter more. I normally run as a duo and find the mess of clones offering bleeding and conditions on death is putting out far more pressure and take down power(especially staff clones). I also feel like Dodge clones give me better access to distortion stomps. Every once and awhile in a hard fight if we get one down I’m able to Dodge roll twice to the target, distortion stomp, blink/phase retreat away. Obviously using rabid gear to make this work. Rabid also has superior condition damage over apothecary.

With all your experience you still think the healing and faster scepter outweighs the higher damage output plus on demand clone creation?

Just another thought, 20/20/30 also has vigor up almost all the time.

I almost.forgot for a second that this game isn’t full of egotistical icks.

Perspective is back in place.

Probably a pointless post but I’m bored and curious.

I really hate how pistols phantasm is #4 and all other offhands(sword, focus, torch) are on #5. So sometimes I switch into pistol an ill blow my #5 trying to summon iDuelist. Does anyone else do this from time to time or am I just being a lazy Noob to attached to muscle memory?

#mainhandpistol

Now that’s a fancy fightclub flyer.

Bllade.1029:

VLK has another guide, how to sucessfully defend SM with golems.

KY ain’t gonna help with this one.

Also Jobs.

Dovgan.8605:

Silas Drake.8946:

Everything is not a personal attack, pie is also better then cake(Devon says so).

You want help optimizing your big sexy norn I’m available most nights. Stop wallowing around all sad faced and go F kitten up. HoD knows what the ground floor looks like, we also don’t forget the past ether. Y’all make me miss ET cause dem MFers got spirit.

Class? GW2 is completely void of class.

Plans and phases… or some junk.

Yes! I could use a fight against a decent mesmer. And don’t miss take what I say. I been having a blast in WvW, so has my guild, but all the /e trash shows new WvW players the absolute worst GW2 players have to offer. I know these are mostly pugs in eternal, it doesn’t matter to me. Considering the assault made on the AR keep yesterday from a paper Bravost, getting multiple walls down while HoD players fumbled to build any sort of counter siege, an HoD commander bringing an omega golem to a paper door with double our manpower and failing, and HoD finally having to zerg rush a paper tower with almost no door/wall health and face pound the door down are more than moment enough to keep me entertained for the week.

There we go, much better.

Hell I’d love that thing in wvw. Let some other joker portal. Free utility slot for me.

Everything is not a personal attack, pie is also better then cake(Devon says so).

You want help optimizing your big sexy norn I’m available most nights. Stop wallowing around all sad faced and go F kitten up. HoD knows what the ground floor looks like, we also don’t forget the past ether. Y’all make me miss ET cause dem MFers got spirit.

Class? GW2 is completely void of class.

Plans and phases… or some junk.

So I keep trying to WvW but I have this one problem, raptor birds. They keep spawn camping me.

(Insert sad face meme)

“Kill the necro” every fight this is said if the enemy has a necro. Why? Easy to train down and even easier to stomp. I love my necro, he does a F ton of damage. He however does 0.00% damage laying face first in the mud.

Confessor… that takes me back.

Counter mobility with making the enemy have a lack of mobility. Plenty of ways to offer knockbacks and protection.

Where is that Anet notes taker?

Ill take a instant cast wurm with no delay on the teleport activation. Oh and a reduced cooldown. Kthx.

Some really good stuff being said here. Covers everything I could say and more. Hope someone is reading this and taking note.

/Support Necromancers

Nerf-a-class forum event? Where do I sign up?

Build I’m currently running, and having great success playing the game as a Meta necro

Build – Fastkicks aka foddermancer

Traits: 0/0/0/0/0 – Didn’t take any traits due to the randomized nerfing system. Also keeps the title as “OP”(also known as viable) from being spread all over.

Utilities: Signet of the Locust, Spectral Walk, Flesh Wurm. – Locust and Walk for that great running speed. Going to have have fast kicks if you think you’re gonna actually make it to that tower/keep door or legendary guards. Flesh wurm is for that pre arranged teleport back “see ya Noob” getaway.

Elite: Leopard form – whaaa!? You didn’t roll norn? Well get cracking son.

Weapon sets: Scepter/Warhorn Dagger/Focus – Alright, scepter #2 applies cripple. Warhorn #5 swiftness and PBAoE cripple, dagger #3 is a immob, focus #5 is a chill. You know the drill.

Now I’m available for questions about armor and playstyle with your brand new Fastkicks. Just remember that you’re probably still gonna get run down 99.9% of the time, and that prefectly normal, you are after all fodder.

P.S. sorry for the delays if you message me as ill be working on dusting off my mesmer and/or leveling my guardian. Also don’t mix iced tea and skittles y’all, stuffs bad for ya.

Yay Yarr is back, see y’all sylvari kittens soon.

I think aside from a “healing” for defense I’d like some more traditional abilities to shrug off damage. There is a reason other classes can survive well past the point a necro can and that’s the abilities to relocate character position, making the class untargetable(loss of target) and allow for re-positioning, or complete immunity or evasion of fire(meaning the CC that comes along with it).

I also don’t think the loss of all utilities in both elite forms and DS helps “attrition”. I’m not convinced an attrition necro can exist with the current trait lines and lack of supporting utilities. DS is still terrible outside of a burst type mechanic also which makes you a walking punching bag if you are build tanky, as none of the a ilities offer you much of anything.

IMO you want attrition then none do it better then the d/d ele ATM. Mix of tank/heals/mobility with both decent direct damage and condition.

I love my necro don’t get me wrong, but I’ve personally had no success outside of the “best defense is offense” approach.

Or just run run run run

Really starting to think about the chill idea and plague with well of darkness. My biggest problem with this is still plague form itself.

I feel like its HP increase and blind spam is just a illusion of survival. Every time I go plague in the back of my head I feel like I’ve already lost. You have no heal, no conditions transfer(I don’t see why it doesn’t) no utilities. Just turn into a slow moving beacon saying “attack me now and kill me”.

Even fighting other necros I don’t even bother squirreling around and just bomb them. Now I know what you’re thinking “plague form soak damage, come out and eat the conditions for a nice heal”. Sounds good on paper but often not, unless your team is already mopping up or your still above 50% HP that’s just a gamble.

You are probably getting focused down plus with the condition running you are more like “come out of plague try and heal and get cced/bursted/condition into the dirt”.

Down skills arnt gonna do poop to help you ether. Worst part being that with your aggressive start you might even have forced a down or two with your teams damage. However thanks to rally you basicly did nothing but put your team at a disadvantage.

Atleast this is how I feel. People love my necro and love me in groups. I do very well when unorganized groups let me harvest their souls unhindered. However any average team knows full well “just kill the necro” cause they know we can’t stop it.

Maybe I’m wrong or maybe I just need to stowe my necro and run my Mesmer in conditions. I don’t think tanking up a necro is the best role for the character but I’d love to hear how others are surviving good players workings together just running you down into a free post hole.