Guild Wars 2

Anet are destroying their own community.

To be fair this has been happening for a while. But this is like the final nail in the coffin for some (indefinitely suspend legendry weapons). After bad balanced patches, neglected game types, now also broken promises on top of broken promises. some of the people in game are not happy. There is a toxic atmosphere in many game types I’m finding now. Along with a helpless feeling. I want to help fix it all but can’t. it’s also not my place to.

I for one feel betrayed by the company, there by effecting my mood and how I conduct myself while playing their game. It is a slow and systemic failure by Anet that has lead to all of this. I don’t want to walk away, but one can only do so much, and take so much.

Been playing GW from 2005

this is an ongoing problem.

Simply making the rules a bit tighter would fix it.

If more than 2 minutes AFK in WvW you should be kicked back to LA. simple.
It is a War, and active numbers matter. AFK are a dead weight, and hinder outnumbers bonus, or Queue for people that might want to get in, (if there is a queue).

right now I don’t trust anything Anets says. WvW might also be “indefinitely stopped” and they are just waiting for the right time to tell us.

same thing with bit defender.

Masterys? why would you need them now? we’re only getting 4 of the 16 legendry weapons, that seemed to be the only point it maxing masterys. guess you got lucky and they made one you wanted.

evilunderling.9265:

Silverstone.4539:

Simply get the people working on the new expiation to finish the old one first. The solution is so crazy simple I am dumbfounded as to why this post was even made by Mike O Brien. They are making themselves look so bad with this post. it’s just craziness. Simply deliver what was promised and what everyone thought that were buying at the time.

This has been brought up many times by many armchair game developers before you, and the reality is that it is not even remotely as simple an answer as you think it is.

if that is the case. Why would they promise something they can’t deliver on. I understand sometimes things can blow out, problems, other things come up that might make it harder than you initially thought, but you work through it. You don’t throw up your arms and put it in the too hard basket. I, along with many others brought HoT with the promise of new legendry’s. it came out. nothing, then they say every 3 months or so we’ll add them, ok I think. now this. indefinitely stopped. I never brought HoT thinking I would get more LS, or another expansion down the line. I was buying what was listed, and new Legendry’s was one of them.

I know, you can’t tell someone how to run their company. And I don’t want to see GW2 die either, but doing this to their paying customers is a sure fire way to drive away any future business and erodes trust horribly.

Simply get the people working on the new expiation to finish the old one first. The solution is so crazy simple I am dumbfounded as to why this post was even made by Mike O Brien. They are making themselves look so bad with this post. it’s just craziness. Simply deliver what was promised and what everyone thought that were buying at the time.

This post is even more damaging to their reputation, that has been getting worse and worse over the years. And it could have all been averted so easily. I’m just dumbfounded.

This is the last straw. I got HoT because they said 16 new legendry’s would come out with, then once its was out, they say, we are slowly making them, we got 3.. now this!? they are cancel indefinitely? I even collected everything thinking new ones were coming, as they said. do I get my money back for HoT? I feel betrayed angry and a lot more. can’t take anything you guys say now for fact, its lies after lies.

why not just put everyone on making and finishing the Legendry’s and put a hold on LW. you could get them done in no time, and then move on from there. New Legendary weapons > any new Living world.

impressive. do all your heavy’s use pretty much the same stat gear? if so, what is it?

I think a lot of you are missing my point. What’s done is done for season 2, win or lose. But season 3 won’t be a fresh start if it’s still using MMR from season 2 and 1, its irreversible damaged my MMR. It would be like a sports team that is forced to start with a -10 score at the start of the season, just because that team lost the year before. And the team that won gets +10 at the start. This does not happen. I think almost all start at 0 in the interest of fair play. but not GW2 PvP its rigged, corrupt and anything but fair, and I no longer want anything to do with it.

For me, there is no “so we had a bad run this season, we’ll pick it up on the next one” no, no we can’t. because that “bad run” is going to drag me down for the next season too, and the one after that and the one after that.

Season 1 was ok. Season 2 has destroyed my soul to the point I have lost any hope. Never mind the class balance that’s totally out of whack. But this MMR hell people talk of is the worst. I played because I thought I was enjoying it. The more I played the less and less I enjoyed. I was at the same time digger a bigger and bigger hole for myself. The thing is, the game it’s self made that happen, by giving me worse and worse teams vs better and better teams. Now, I can never get back to the MMR of season 1. I feel like that collage kid that was good at running, but he got hit by a drunk driver and lost both his legs, and now will never run again, no matter how much he might try. MMR was that drunk driver. An uncaring selfish thing that destroys the lives of many, who are not privileged enough to have good doctors or big support team.

Even if I try again in season 3, with renewed vigour, I can’t get my legs back. My W/L ratio can’t be fixed, it’s over for me. I’ll just have to close the door on something I once enjoyed, but can never get back.

CD would rather just have more keen WvW players than a TS commander. I would say over half don’t even use TS. and in down time time zones we are lucky to have 4-6 people on. A commander is nothing without people to follow him/her TS or not. But there is a voice com for CD, and always welcomes more players.

it’s not just a wall problem. Sometime I can’t ever hit people out in the open with ranged attacks, they get called “obstructed” and there is nothing around, maybe a very small tree stump at the most, it’s sort of a pain. that or its lag, and I’m not or they are not where I think they are.

“outnumbered” bonus should also give 100% damage bonus to everything, NPCs included.

I want the reward of fun and enjoyment I get from playing a well balanced game. Not the pain and anguish I get right now.

I’m so close to quitting myself, but its more to do with class balance then the lack of numbers we have right now. If and that’s a very very big if, with Anets track record as of late, they get the balance right, maybe it will be more fun again. Sadly if you’re not playing meta right now, you might as well not be playing at all.

I don’t know, just having a tag, does not mean you “can” command. And if the 300g is too much, you might be one of those commanders that is always asking someone else to put down siege, and that’s not cool. Siege is not that cheap if your tagged up all the time. unless you have a lot of backers.

Couldn’t help be step in on this one . I’m on CD too. always have been, always will be. I think some people, partly myself included, might be taking a little time off. Waiting and hoping for a different match up. It’s true, right now we are totally outnumbered. Even ppt is pretty much pointless as we just don’t have the people to defend anything we take back, and at the same time cap anything else. It’s just unfortunate that the sever matchmaking can’t seem to see the WvW population different right now. On reset , we did ok for an hour to 2. I heard in TS that DH had 60 long queue to get into EBL, not use if that’s true of not. CD no queue, and I have not seen one in almost a year. ( though I don’t play at peak time that much).

The whole server transfer things is a depressing problem. This is something I posted somewhere else:

-Server transforms I think are the biggest killer. I have been on the same server playing WvW from Beta. I have seen guilds come and go slowing killing our severs population. a New guild will come from a different sever, they play in a odd time zone when we had few people on. so people welcome the change at first, they recruit like mad. then within a month or 2 they move on to another sever for whatever reason, taking some of what few players we already had in the time zone. This happens again and again, with other guilds, leaving just a skeleton crew left in that odd time zone. To the point that even the hardcore loyal to the server find it hard WvWing because there are just so few of us left to do anything. So this is what they need to fix or stop somehow. if we are to have any hope for WvW in the future for all the servers.-

In short, I would not say CD is dead, in a slump maybe sure. You would be too if you had 50+ doorknockers on your day everyday for a week. they will move on… at some point. and maybe we’ll get matched up with a server that is more our current population size. A fighting chance is all that’s is needed. Right now its feels more like CD is just tided to a chair and is being forced to take all the hits, like it or not.

Oh a questions for low Tire servers, what’s it like? is it always 1 of the 3 servers dominates, because its unbalanced even down there? or are they pretty even?

keep/tower/camp taping. NPCs should NOT! be able to tap anything, maybe just the dredge and ogre mobs but that’s it, if even that.

Sever transforms I think are the biggest killer. I have been on the same server playing WvW from Beta. I have seen guilds come and go slowing killing our severs population. a New guild will come from a different sever, they play in a odd time zone when we had few people on. so people welcome the change at first, they recruit like mad. then within a month or 2 they move on to another sever for whatever reason, taking some of what few players we already had in the time zone. This happens again and again, with other guilds, leaving just a skeleton crew left in that odd time zone. To the point that even the hardcore loyal to the sever just give up and stop WvWing because there are just so few of us left to do anything.

So this is what they need to fix or stop somehow. if we are to have any hope for WvW in the future for all the severs.

Yes, I would like it changed back to Friday.

As players like me, from New Zealand and Australia, as it stands now, resents ends up being on a Sunday mid day, only really giving us half a day to play. when it was on Friday nights it was a Saturday for us, that was much better. What time won’t change too much for us as it will still be some time around mid day.

SailorSpira.9371:

BrotherBelial.3094:

T1 Emerald vs Sapphire? I don’t think that should be happening.

Last night. The player pool is just too small.

i can believe that, guess there are more people like me that have just walked away. got to Emerald t3, been there since just 3 days after the start of the season 2. only winning 1 in every 10 games, fighting builds that I know I can’t beat because of how unbalanced everything is, I just said, F it, and stopped. Anets just shooting themselves in the feet, they want people to play it so there whole matchmaking works, with short queue times, but they forget that if it’s not fun, people won’t play. Balance kitten, and maybe, more people will come back and play.

Balance things. I mostly WvW, with some PvP and a little PvE, PvE is PvE i have no problems there and I’m mostly done with it. But WvW and PvE. There are some classes that are just too good. There might be a little skill there sure, but if they are running a Necro, Druid, scrapper, or ele with the right set up, I might as well give up before the fight has even started, as I know they are running the stronger classes.

All will out sustain what I run. It the classic , “if you can’t beat them, join them” I refuse too, in the hope that one day balance will come back, and changing gear is not that cheap.

I long for the day there will be no meta, as everything will be as good and each other, it won’t matter what you play, with the right skill anything should be able to beat anything. As it stands now, it’s far from that.

I understand it can’t be easy, I have been playing since beta, and there have been ups and downs with the changes, but right now, I think it’s at an all time low.

your right! but its still a bug. as I can pick to have herald even though I now has the red X on it,

so you cant have Herald on land and water, or you get the bug I have been saying. never mind where my other water skills are……..

I do. i’ll try and change them all around…..

Still not fixed… been like this since HoT came out now. and it’s in any water, not just WvW by the way.

Are there stats they can see, of how many people do, and finish a raid? what % of the player population do them? if it’s only 2%… I got to ask, why? why put so much time into something that only 2% of the gaming population is every going to do or see.

I tried at first, but quickly gave up when finding a team got too hard, and they always failed anyway.

Solo content is all I do now, anything else is just stress and can be a huge waste of time. If I can’t do it solo, guess I’m just not doing it.

kittenAnet and your love affair with necros and bunker builds. sadly I can’t blame the people for milking something that Anet set in motion.

it really feels like im play a 9 vs 1 game half the time. yelling at my screen in the hope they might hear me. I ever type it, but they’re in the blood rage and don’t read. this is soul destroying.

I’m calling it quits too as of now, started ok, but now after 200 games I’m stuck in t3 emerald with lose after endless lose. last game a guy left so we ended 4 vs 5. so yeah, I’m done. meta is awful too. There is no balance. Only thing I get out of the game is anger and rage, one has to step back and ask “why?” why am I putting myself through this pain and torture? it was meant to be for the fun of it……… ha no more I guess.

Get good, or get better has nothing to do with it, and I’m sort of getting a little tired of people using this to answer questions. let’s say you have 2 good teams. sometimes one team will win, sometime the other team will win. It is highly unlikely that one team is going to beat the other team 5 times in a row as they are both good teams. it will just go back and forth win and lose with both not really getting anywhere. The only way teams get anywhere is if they keep playing a team that is worse than they are, it’s that simple.

So I’m sorry, but the people that just keep saying, “get good” “get better” must have had an easy run against bad teams or have no understanding of statics.

Flip a coin, and get heads 5 times in a row, wait you can’t? guess you have to get better…….. lunacy.

If you did, you have lady luck on your side. lucky you

Getting anything more than 3 wins in a row for some is a fairy tale. So with only 2 wins after losing over 3 lose, for 3 pips looks very good to some. True in the higher tires it would count for very little as tiers are sets of 5, but in amber and Emerald, 3 pips for 2 wins can look good, regardless of the math.

Daroon.1736:

Good list but you missed a crucial one that; judging from the constant supply of threads, is also affecting a lot of people, namely dealing with griefers, ragequitters and afk’ers

yes, but that’s really just a systemic problem brought about by the bigger problems, fix them, we fix a lot of the others that a born from them, like the ones you have said.

I know there are lots of topics about the problems with season 2 PvP mostly to do with the MMR but that is not the only problem. This is a collection of problems I have noticed over season 2 so far. It seems Anet have a policy of not replying to PvP topics right now, but I hope they at least read them. Fixing these problems I hope will go a long way to making PvP better again. They are not in any order, and i have also added some ideas for fixing some.

Please note this is all from a Solo Queue perspective.

*Profession balance – This is the root of most of the problems. i know it can’t be an easy fix. But it is far from a paper, rock, scissors scenario, there are dynamites that just blow the rest away. This is its own problem and a big one that would need its own topic, no simple fix here.

*Bunker builds - there are a number of them. Ele, ranger, Engineer, even some necros you could put into this category right now. When 2 or sometimes even 3 people can’t kill another class, one has to ask why? Balance (see above), yes but also – because this style of play is rewarded. Control points don’t move so the longer you have one the better your chance of winning are. A solution to this would be to have different types of game maps. Where different types of play can be rewarded. not, who can hold one spot the longest. Here is one idea. have 3 control points, but every 20 seconds they randomly change location on the map. To three of 12 different places. This would add moveably in to the mix. Along with more lock down builds CC. Also giving teams that were not lucky enough to get 3 bunkers on their team, to stand a chance.

*Match making – a big one this season, I know they are trying something new, but it’s safe to say it didn’t really work. It seem to be very cloak and dagger system that no one really understands. I understand why, people would milk it if they knew every in and out. But I think a Solo only Queue would go a long way to making a lot of casual PvPers feel better. I’m not sure how this one is an easy fix. my MMR as I imagine lots of other peoples has be destroyed by this season 2 match making system. Even resetting MMR for everyone at this point would not fix it as we would just be starting all over again putting the good with the not so good. Only way I can think of is going back to season 1 match making but also reverting everyone’s MMR back to what it was at the end of season 1. I don’t know if that is possible or if they have backups like that, but… going forward with the statics quo is only going to push more people away from PvP.

*Team make up - I see 3 rangers 1 gardain 1 mes on 1 team. 3 necros, 2 eng on the other. they all Solo Q ( i see at the end of the match) why on earth are the necros and rangers not spread over both teams? If, as I have heard its because the 2 teams MMR is very different, then they should not be fighting each other anyway. I guess this goes back to Match making as the root of the problem.

*Pips - the +2 for braking a losing streak. though it’s a nice idea on paper. in practice there is a lot, i mean A LOT of collateral damage. People start AFKing or losing on purpose so they can lose 3 in the hope of getting a win on the 4th to get 2 pips back up again. this has compounding effect for other team members getting them stuck in a no win situation where they are stuck in the same tire for days if not weeks on end. In my mind, this should be removed. Give people an incentive to win, not to try and lose to win bigger later on.

Anyone else got more, and I’m sure there are please just add them.

yip, I have had 32, I saw some one with a 72 losing streak. its painful stuff

yip, I’m there, it don’t matter what I do, what I run, how great or bad I play, I can almost never win now. same tire for 4 days.

Thel.9087:

Silverstone.4539:

its imposable! win 1, lose 4, win 2, lose 1, win 1, lose 1, win 1 ,lose 8, win 2, lose 4, win 1, lose 3, win 1, lose 3, win 1, lose 2, win 2 , lose 2, win 1 lose 3, win 2 lose 5. and so on and so on. been in the same tire for days. all solo.

But there is no solo Q, we are in with all the other premades, who the hell thought this was a good idea?

Grinding skills, not individual skills

skill?! what do you know of skill? is it a skill to not be afk? or to bad mouth your team, or to give up when the other team is only 80 in the lead. skill has nothing to do with it. it’s the hopeless situation that has soo many players demoralized that they take it out on each other, their own team. A lot should not even be playing Ranked games with the way they play, but they do.

no, it’s luck of the draw if you solo Q

its imposable! win 1, lose 4, win 2, lose 1, win 1, lose 1, win 1 ,lose 8, win 2, lose 4, win 1, lose 3, win 1, lose 3, win 1, lose 2, win 2 , lose 2, win 1 lose 3, win 2 lose 5. and so on and so on. been in the same tire for days. all solo.

But there is no solo Q, we are in with all the other premades, who the hell thought this was a good idea?

at this point .. who the kitten care! I think what is kittening me off more now than anything (and there is a lot) is the fact the Anet team have not said a word, not a peep about what’s going on.

I think being water boarded would be more fun at this point….

Eater of Peeps.9062:

Well, I will address and hopefully correct some of your more eggregious misstatements and misassumptions.

Personally I presume I did not have a low mmr at start of seas 2. I was in ruby, 100% solo, 2 pips from diamond. I didn’t make it cuz the last 2 days, tried to “breeze thru wins” using old losing strategies from seas 1, and it hurt my ability to get diamond and prolly my mmr too. But whatever. With a high number of games under my belt, and a 53% win ratio, I don’t think my mmr was reflective of a lower tier player. I breezed thru amber and 1st tier emerald in less than an hr day one.

Then all of sudden, my skill seems to have vanished. I started losing. The first games lost were due to the afkers etc who still thought losing games was still a good way to win this season ( I would never engage in such tactics, I always try to win). I had some dc’ers. I had some who threw games for their friends. We got stomped by rerolling/op/gimmicky teams on ts. Fine. I guess spvp is now a team sport exclusively.

In addition, once I started losing, mmr started matching me w/ poorer players (day 1-2 of seas 2). I play alot. I couldn’t save all the matches. Sometimes you just get matched w/ ppl who r not a good fit (rerolls wont help or not available) or who don’t know how to play spvp.

I am not, as arrogantly implied by many, upset about facing better players. In fact, that’s what I like about spvp – the competition. That way I can get better if I need to.

You mention that you don’t like to carry people who “don’t know what a node is.” What do you think I am encountering. How come it is perfectly okay for me to encounter people needing to be carried endlessly, but not you. I don’t understand. I paid the same amount for this game as you.

I don’t see any psychological mumbo jumbo, unless of course, anyone with emotions, opinions, and a brain is having psychological mumbo jumbo.

And please, try to refrain from telling people like me that our frustration is silly and insulting. I don’t really appreciate it. Please don’t demean my experience. I take offense at your efforts to deminimize my frustration, and others, especially since in my case, I have been playing pvp on GW for 14 years.

I am not paired with ppl in my skill level. I did not sink to this level because of my personal skill.

Think about it. My mmr is not calculated solely (or even necessarily primarily) by my personal skill level. It is calculated by the sum total of all the games I have played, and thus includes, and perhaps is primarily the result of, the personal skill levels as well the desire/ability to play exhibited by all my teammates.

This isn’t about right or wrong. There have been some horrible miscalculations and design flaws that are horribly skewed, and not panning out according to the “purist” model as designed, and consequently, the system is punishing longstanding, loyal members of the gw family, as well as punishing most casual pvp players, which unfortunately anymore, is most of the gw2 population base.

Remember, as I face more and more losses it will be impossible for me to claw my way up and in the interim, I am forced to play beneath my own personal skill level (contrary to what you may think), and it is quite frustrating and demoralizing. My last 4 matches even had players who admitted they deliberately dc’ed or akitten. They were reported, chat recorded, but so what – I still lost my pips and my downward spiral continues. What was it that I was supposed to do. I am at the bottom playing with people who don’t know how to play. There is no support. I can kill 1 v 4, but so what. If my teammates are doing nothing and 1 is afk, and the rest quit because of this, or they don’t care (cus its just one game after all), how is this my fault or reflective of my skill?

Also, as to your suggestion that players at the bottom can always go play unranked, cuz that’s where we presumably belong, is rather presumptuous. Without ever seeing any of us play, how would you know where our skill level is really at? Besides, in unranked, players go in there to fight one another one-on-one mid map or to test builds. How would that help me or anyone else, even presuming we need help and need to get better (and btw I don’t personally need help – since playing spvp since beta has taught me how to play by now). How is this suggestion a solution. You’re actually telling me to go do something else. Why don’t we all just go to pve too, and never pvp?

I am entitled to refuse to play w/ friends. That is my prerogative. If anet wanted all ranked pvp to be team based, w/friends, then anet should should make it mandatory that all people form a team in order to play ranked pvp, and should also eliminate the hotjoin button. Also, btw, my friends don’t want to risk lowering their cumulative mmr, by carrying a kitten player cuz the match-ups offer them no team support and players are often clueless about strategy or builds and sometimes, even with 2 good players, you still can’t save the team to rise up out of the lowest tiers.

Your own statement says it all: You “don’t feel the need to carry someone who barely knows what a node is.” Yah, its not fun. I am not enjoying it either.

I also don’t want to be “carried.” I have never been carried in pvp. I play 100% solo, and always have and always will. Its a preference. I don’t want to feel forced to do what “top players” think I should do to fix my dilemma, or to improve my fun level or skill level.

Also, my cumulative mmr is now shot forever. I will never be able to claw my way out of the bottom, probably not this season, and possibly never. Its not fun. Its the antithesis of fun. If you want to come carry me, please do so.

However, I will continue to empathize and support the same frustrations other players are experiencing as well and are quitting the game over. I don’t want GW to die. I want anet to try to fix it.

Don’t presume I play ranked pvp for the backpiece either. I don’t care about the backpiece at all. I don’t even want it. I play pvp specifically because I like strong competition. Now I must endure frustration endlessly and believe me, its not fun.

Contrary to what you say and imply, at least at it applies in my case, no matter how many times you say it or imply it, I am not a bad player. My mmr is the cumulative result of the skill levels and motivations of the teammates I get paired with, along with my personal skill and other external factors like lag, dcs, etc. I can get punished very badly if my teammates are bad. I am living proof of that.

And why is it, finally, that you emphasize your suggestions with italics, and bolding, but that is not considered drawing attention to your posts over and above what others have posted by using capital letters or other punctuation to emphasize theirs? You seem to have a nice understanding of forum rules, hence your suggestion to me as to how to post my replies. Please elucidate for me what you know of the rules that makes bolding and italics ok, but other punctuation, font types, capital letters, or other formatting means of typing emphasis are not ok. I would appreciate an education in this regard instead. Thanks for your anticipated help in this regard.

Please do not think I have not considered your viewpoint. I just think until you walk a mile in my shoes for one day in pvp, under the present system, that you are showing an amazing lack of understanding of the issues.

Also, please remember I am new to the forums. I have never felt the need to come onto the forums for anything in 14 yrs of playing gw.

here here +1
well said.

why are the developers so quiet on the forums with peoples questions? the silence is deafening.

I’m sure I’m not the only one. But if all future games are based off my MMR, and after the disasters that is season 2 matchmaking that has left my 3 year win/lose ratio that was 55/45% at the start of season 2, now 20/80%. Now I’m paired up with afkers, rage standers and people that don’t even know what key to press to see the team menu.

Will it ever get reset? or should I just give up playing altogether, because I don’t think I could take this if this is the way it’s going to stay.

it don’t mean kitten. unless your luck and have it high, it’s like an old boys club, the fat get fatter. it’s totally unfair. note how Anet have not said a word. They know they kittened up big time, and wont own up to it.

@ Eater of Peeps
sorry sounds like your taking it ever worse then I am.

There are parts of HotM that are not used. Anet should made a “PvP rehab” where with lots of fluffy animals, nice tress and just good feelings. where we can just chill and timeout when in a queue before it all starts again.

I genuinely think this would be a good idea

Is there a heath warning on PVP? I have never been so angry in my life, always in a bad mood, I snap at people that just try and talk to me. it only gets like this in PvP.

Is it meant to be like this? is it just a side effect of PvP?

There is something I like about it or I would not keep playing it, but I think I’m sacrificing mental well being playing it. maybe also harming others around me

maybe, not sure, I am spending a lot more time on the forums in the hope a developer will clear some stuff up.

see, hear say and gossip, was hoping a developer would clear the water. I just don’t know what’s real anymore

I’m in the same boat. start of season 2 I was about 55% win to 45% lose, now that has blown out to 78% lose 22% win and this is over 600 games so one or two wins or loses won’t change the stats much now. i think I’m doomed.

I think we are talking to deaf ears. that, or they are mute, only replays I have seen Anet make are to the topics that don’t really matter. They seem to have their head in the sand on most of the major topics. Maybe they think if they keep quiet it will just go away.

yet it only makes people more bitter, angry and twisted because they feel they are not being heard… this is how governments fall…..