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I’m sorry but I don’t think you understand what “Collaborative Development” actually means.
Warriors are already DEVELOPED ok?
They are viable across all aspects in this game, thats a 100% fact.
There are classes out there that need actual attention and development.
Rangers, I’m no longer even going to bother posting about this class – it’s not even a class imo, its just there. This class is the least viable class in the entire game. Name me some scenarios where a ranger is more useful than any other classes.
Thieves – Textbook definition of one trick pony – stealth and backstab. Run into any trouble? stealth and disengage away. 0 skill involved with this class as well. Just stealth up and go around backstabbing. This class needs more viabality across all boards instead of ONLY roaming…
Eles – breath on them and they die, easy one here. lowest HP pool + lowest armor. Terrible DPS if they do decide to go for PVT armor… great synergy in terms of their offensive repertoire but they rarely get to complete it given the fact a skritt could toss a bottle at it and instantly down the ele.
Those 3 easily need more development time and thought from the Devs.
I could care less about warriors, sure they need some nerfs, but again, buffing other classes is waaaaay more important than anything you just suggested.
Classes should have multiple viable builds in all aspects of the game.
Focus on that first. Not any redesign of a class like warrior whos already viable in all forms…. make the other classes viable first, than balance it out.
Rangers need their bows looked at first and first most
After that sword root on skill 1.
than maybe you can go into fine tunning other weapons but the other ones are in a MUCH better position than bows and sword AA.
I love my sword and skill 1 rooting problems have gotten me killed countless times. It takes a while a master but it could be fixed with some code….
Bows are pathetic. (talkin wvw,pvp) Absolutely useless. You wont kill anything with a bow except grubs. Sure you can tag a field with barrage, thats about it.
Shortbow is OK for conditions, but again, the melee weapons are MUCH better. all of them have viable condi applications and better dps than shortbow.
Long bow is easily the worst weapon in our repertoire.
Its sad when the class with the sterotypical bow user character is not even the best ranged player in this game…. hell not even top 5. All other classes have better range options than the ranger does, that’s a fact, don’t even try to argue against it.
1. Ranger, completely obvious, if you put anything other than ranger as 1, you are biased.
This class is completely and utterly useless in 100% of the game. Each class has something unique and SOME VIABLE BUILDS. This one is in complete shambles.
They bring absolutely nothing to the table in a zerg in wvw.
PvE, their only buffs are a spirit and spotter lol? any class is better at giving support in a PvE meta event or dung.
All rangers can do is condi roaming/spvp build thats it. Completely and utterly useless thanks to the fact pets are by far the WORST class specific mechnic in the game, it’s not even an opinion, thats a pure cold heart fact. Please let me know whos the creative genius that decided to make the only condi cleansing rangers have access too completely tied into KILLING THEIR OWN PET. Yes lets make a design for a mechnic like pets and LETS ADD TRAITS THAT HELP KILL THEIR OWN PET. Awesome thinking, seriously. Fix this class or delete it. Personally I would delete it, its painfully clear Anet you have no idea how to fix this class given the fact there has been 0 useful feedback in almost 2 years on this class.
2. Ele – They are in a decent position with a good synergy in terms of offensive capability but omg their surivivability is completely lacking. It’s not even worth getting full PVT armor thanks to the fact you’re DPS will be laughable AND STILL you will get destroyed by anything that breathes on you.
3. I’ll go with thief here… literally all they can do is stealth and backstabs lol. Most one directional class in the game…..
Typically try to ignore them… I’m not exactly sure what min/maxers are racing for here anyways… this game is pretty much always going to revolve around anet supporting casuals over hardcore… simply because of the fact casual players are majority of the playerbase and thus, more $$ from gemstore from them….
Everyone wants shiny new toys but it can’t be freakin christmas every 2 weeks or even every month….
We just got ascended armors/weapons.. I have yet to even get to 500 crafting to even make that stuff yet. or the mats to even make a full set.. but ofc the hard core players are done within a few weeks because of high amount of gameplay time and have soo much mats/ascended gear they have no idea what to do with it so now they are bored and want new things again because they already have the best and most awesome gear… its always going to be a cycle like this….Hard for ANY company to keep up with the demands of such hardcore players that want new stuff every few weeks…
I actually rarely play it and im not a fan boi… tbh,im bored to death of it haha. you can say i’ve gotten to the point where my appetite is full. Ive played my few hours today, i dont have much time on weekdays thanks to busy work weeks. I just do dailys , maybe zerg for a bit in wvw and few matches of spvp..
But i only wanted to respond to the OP who just sounded all whiney and needy for not getting new toys…
Patience… it’s lost these days.
The amount of new stuff people keep asking for and demanding is mind boggling considering the fact all you did was pay 60 bucks and got basically all the content for free. yet ppl still want MORE AND MORE.
Have spent over 1k hours in this game without spending one extra dollar in gem store…most games for 60 bucks you’ll be lucky to get 100 hours out of.
Stop bugging anet.. they have gone beyond the call of duty to supply us with a playable MMO…let them add content at w/e pace they want, it’s their game. You literally don’t have to pay them anything for this stuff…
Kids these days
You’re silly, if you pay for an all you can eat meal and yet they’ve not brought out most of the stuff they advertised than people will complain. It would be laughable to think that these people should have to pay more for something that they purchased already. Anet isn’t hurting for money off the game, people buy gems and stuff all the time. Look how much deco armor, perm mining stuff and other stuff they sold this year.
You are delusional if you think anet has not been bringing out new entree’s every so often for your meal analogy…Eat or get off the table, there’s plenty of other restuarants… anet already got the money from you… doubt they care THAT much that some people hate their “new dishes”
The amount of new stuff people keep asking for and demanding is mind boggling considering the fact all you did was pay 60 bucks and got basically all the content for free. yet ppl still want MORE AND MORE.
Have spent over 1k hours in this game without spending one extra dollar in gem store…most games for 60 bucks you’ll be lucky to get 100 hours out of.
Stop bugging anet.. they have gone beyond the call of duty to supply us with a playable MMO…let them add content at w/e pace they want, it’s their game. You literally don’t have to pay them anything for this stuff…
Kids these days
The usual ridiculous argument of “you paid 60 bucks for the game and everything else is stuff they’re giving us out of the kindness of their hearts, and now you complain.”
No. The 60 dollars we paid was for the game plus future updates/improvements. That’s how the game was advertised and that’s precisely the reason so many people bought the game, giving it an amazing launch.
Please do show me where anet has stopped giving updates?
Once again, people are never content until they get everything they want… It what it is so wrong in this culture today… give it to me! give it to me now!
If you seriously are that down on anet not catering to you’re needs, than quit. You got what you paid for.
Every single game has bugs and issues.
They are working on it for you, again without additional fees…. If you don’t think they are doing a good enough job, quit. Pretty simple man.
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if you are zerging… forget about sending in you’re pet haha.
Put that sucker on passive and just use w/e pets grant you buffs. stalker/moa for might/fury stack respectively
trust me.. pets are absolutely dead because they just stay in red circles all herpy kitten when you zerg, no point in even trying to use pets. just keep em by you’re side while you pew pew and they buff you.
The amount of new stuff people keep asking for and demanding is mind boggling considering the fact all you did was pay 60 bucks and got basically all the content for free. yet ppl still want MORE AND MORE.
Have spent over 1k hours in this game without spending one extra dollar in gem store…most games for 60 bucks you’ll be lucky to get 100 hours out of.
Stop bugging anet.. they have gone beyond the call of duty to supply us with a playable MMO…let them add content at w/e pace they want, it’s their game. You literally don’t have to pay them anything for this stuff…
Kids these days
Fact is rangers bring absolutely bring very LITTLE to the table in wvw.
Outside of roaming or solo play, rangers are pretty much useless in a wvw. Thats a complete fact, dont even try to argue it. They have one freaking AOE skill that can be used in a zerg and thats arrow barrage. Rest are basically single target, small dps skills thanks to pets taking away a good junk of our damage.
Rangers are fine in sPvP, if you are coordinated enough to know when to dodge, rotations, proper builds (although condi is pretty much the only viable build atm.)
PvE. any class can role, so its pointless to argue the uses of ranger in a PvE. everything is already easy there, it doesn’t matter.
However, rangers still suck in PvE (only use is spotter + frost spirit, maybe healing spring).
Every class can do what ranger does in PvE except better. (outside of spotter/frost spirit).
Honestly believe its the pet mechanics taking away too much of the rangers potential.
The DPS is just laughable thanks to anet deciding to give the middle finger to the pets. They need to adjust the DPS ratio for ranger:pet (should be more like 80:20)
Unfortunetly we can’t just delete pets or perma-stow given the fact an entire trait line is based on them…
I love the idea of pets I really do, it’s just laughable how utterly useless our class mechanic is compared to others. not only that but it HURTS the ranger more than it helps.
I mean for god sakes, there are skills/traits that HELP KILL OUR FREAKIN PET (condi swaps). What kind of thought process was that anet?
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Burst with ranger is absolutely possible but requires a lot more effort than most classes
first of all, quickening zypher is absolutely required in order to burst.
That 5 sec quickness gives you the ability to seriously pull some damage.
The bad thing is, that is literally the ONLY way rangers can burst atm.
quickness → rapid fire + pet skills → point blank shot for knockdown → start meleeing (swop/maul or sword/axe skills, w/e you got)
thats about as close of a burst rangers get lol.
absolutely works on people have spent less than 1hour in a pvp situation lol or have no clue how to dodge.
the most hilarious thing I find about Anet’s idea of pet is… lets give the ranger the ability to basically KILL his own pet by putting the only viable condi removal in a 30 point trait that , in fact DOES NOT EVEN CONDI-REMOVE. It’s a condi-swap for gods sake, we have zero, ZERO condi removal.
Everything is transfered to the pet and thus killed. And boom, there goes our “class mechanic”
Wake up devs… how hard is that to see that rangers absolutely dismal in soooo many aspects of the game
Pets and sword auto attack should be high priority for fixing… I absolutely LOVE sword on ranger, that being said, the auto attack chain has killed more than anything else in this game… I can’t evade when I actually tell the system to evade.. this has to be fixed.
Pets are the core mechanic that needs serious re-work and ASAP… its been LONG overdue and their have been great suggestions in this thread and if Anet does not deliver in this next balance patch, i will just flat out give up on ranger. there is no reason to continue playing it when literally every class is flat out better in every aspect of the game.
The simple fact that rangers don’t even have the top RANGED DPS is a bad sign…warriors do better damage at range than rangers… hell even THEIR BOW SKILLS ARE BETTER.
Thieves SB skills are better than Rangers…
It’s embarrassing when the profession is called a RANGER yet there is other professions that have better skills with SB/LB….
Also, given the fact that Anet has publicly stated pets can’t be fixed… can we start a petition to just either,
A). Perma stow and give the ranger a buff while pet is stowed
B). Designate a group of coders to give pets their own code outside of AI mobs… they deserve this… let pets dodge when their masters dodge!!!
C). Buff the pets. I’m talking in terms of surviviablity (they die in the blink of an eye…..) and in terms of skills. You have given the master 1 SKILL to control from his pet 1!!!. Expand the skill bar for pets for the love of god. Let me do more things with my pet. I don’t want this embarassingly slow AI to use a blast finisher before I dropped my fire or water field… I don’t want the pet randomly using skills.. Give the master REAL CONTROL over his pet. Not 1 lousy skill….
Pets have got to be in the worst place for a class specific mechanic… They provide very little utility (some might or fury is all about i use it for…which heck, ANY class can get easily).. they do have some conditions they can only use ONCE….after that its usually a 30-40 sec cd and by that time, the pet will already be dead unless you stay in 1500 range and in that case, you are doing trash DPS lol.
Pets are great if you are doing solo content and need someone to tank for you i guess??(who the heck does solo content in this game?)
Anet devs, Just give me one reason as to why I would WANT or NEED to have a pet in a Dung/Frac/WvW/sPVP, just ONE reason Anet. All other class specific mechnics have some great utility and support.. there is None here with pets and it’s holding back the full potential of the ranger class…