Guild Wars 2

I , along with many others hope to never see Living Story again

It is an absolute waste of resources by anet that could be going into making actual, expansion like content (skills, dungs, you know, meaningful content)

Living story doesn’t add anything to this game besides well… a story… some skins here and there, maybe some back peices lol? nothing else. Period.
People just play the Living Story the first couple days and than leave lol. Its utterly pointless. People who are Achivement point hunters simply play it to get their points and be done with it

It was a nice try by Anet, but it was without a doubt, a failure.
I prefer having actual xpac like content over another year of this dull story, just my opinion, but i know a lot of others share it.
And no, we can’t have both. Anet is not exactly swimming in resource availability to do both Living story + new xpac content

Hopefully Living Story is cutt off…

lol @ anyone who said with a straight face that trinity = boring.

What we have currently is ridiculously boring.

I’m talking strictly PvE here – there is absolutely NO reason to wear any other gear or spec towards anything other than DPS roll.

Tell me one instance where I need PVT/Clerics gear or anything else really?
Every single pve content including high lvl fracs can be beat with a pure DPS spec group/zerkers.

Instead of getting rid of tank/healer/dps/control, its now purely dps dps dps dps.

That is all you need to beat PvE in this game. That is the definition of boring.

There is a reason why majority of the big time successful MMOs have the trinity. It defines roles, it allows indivuals to actual pick a role and learn it, master it, excel at it.
What do you do here? just slap on zerker gear and L2 dodge and learn some easily telegraphed attacks and profit.

The PvE in this game is made simple and easy because of the direct lack of trinity. There is no reason to spec towards anything in pve. No reason to focus on building towards a “support” or “control” spec

Now by no means am I saying GW2 should add trinity to the game, but they need to re-tool and change up the simplistic PvE. Nerfing zerker is not going to change a darn thing. It will STILL remain the best option in terms of DPS because in this game, everything can still be beat in zerker gear and quite efficiently

Liewec.2896:

Justin ODell.9517:

Just wanted a throw out a shout to Allie. She was just now laying the smack down regarding warriors being an issue.

#allieisourchampion

warrior has been an issue for 6 months and you’ve done nothing,
lets not rave about a dev finally noticing it…

bringing up warriors in a thread about “how does anet handle feedback” was probably a bad idea, because over the past 6 months there have been HUNDREDS of threads regarding warriors and over the past 6 months you have not done anything to balance them.

Took over half a year to get an 8% nerf to healing signet. lol.

honestly, I would like to know how anet rates themselves in terms of handling feedback?
We already know how majority of the community thinks so I think it would be interesting to see what anet thinks of themselves..

So what’s more likely, future MMOs abandoning trinity and going with the “jack of all trades, do everything in one class” like anet or stick with the trinity but make some tweaks?

My guess is stick with the trinity. It brings teamwork/skill. Everyone in GW2 is selfishly playing. Never am I depending on my teammates for a heal. i have my own reflects/blocks/dodges/ to protect myself I need no tank. I have my own supply of blinds and knockdowns and stuns I need no controller. I do just fine pew pewing down mobs, I need no DPSer

And that pathethic excuseof “ooo but I don’t like waiting 30 mins for LFG HEALERRR” , well guess what, that’s what happens when you PUG.

MMO’s are played because of the community, with friends. TheGuilds/clans I personally played in always had a diverse groups of healers/tanks/dps/controllers so there was rarely an issue of LFG HEALER/TANK. and you can actually feel good about becoming a good tank/healer or w/e role you want to master. People would recognize someone, like “holy kitten, zanzibar is an amazing priest, our group never dies when hes our healer”

Whats too feel good about here? Oh kitten, he just killed lupicus solo yolo in a few seconds… wow.

Some people prefer this no trinity of a game, and thats absolutely fine. Keep playing it, but A lot of people have gotten a taste of what an MMO feels like with no trinity and while some may have been converted for good, I still feel like plenty of other players still want to play a trinity game which what wildstar, EQN, ESO will give them (allegedly)

Justin ODell.9517:

If you guys bring up a valid issue we aren’t going to just ignore it because only 1 person said it

Not trying to sound rude or anything but the bolded part is pretty much false in my eyes and a lot of other players

Skyhammer has been a bane of many PvPers and nothing is even being seriously discussed.

There has been a broken class since release (ranger, mostly because its a broken mechanic pet)…. since release…. let that sink in…

Broken builds in sPvP for MONTHS and MONTHS.
at least 75% of the warriors I meet are hambow
75% necro MM
like 99% decap engies/PUmesmers/PW thieves

1.5 years of zerker meta. I don’t think a single soul in this forum or game asked for a 10% nerf to crit damage? Why? because it would literally changed nothing at all, period.
Everything remains the same PvE wise, you can complete everything in zerker just fine but its still faster than any other stat combo…(WvW/sPvP is a different animal, everyone has their reasons for different builds but a lot of power builds just got killed and now anet is pushing a condition meta which NO ONE was pushing for…)

You say you don’t ignore issues, which is probably true, but it is obvious to me where the priorities are…

Heck no on a new class.

Anet has proven since release that it cannot balance classes properly.

New race I wouldn’t mind, but 100% no on new class.

There is already 1 fully broke class that has been broke since release and has no foreseeable future. They dropped the ball completely on ranger and I don’t want a new class to go through the same fate.

The Revenant.4970:

Xae Isareth.1364:

@Skitz

1. I never really understood this idea of an endgame. You’re basically saying that 90% of the game should just be forgotten about after a certain point of progression when there’s a defined ‘endgame’.

The endgame for me in GW1 is just doing whatever I want, like how I played Skyrim.

2. Not requiring co-ordination really doesn’t mean it’s faceroll. Vindictus required next to zero co-ordination but it’s one of the most challenging games I’ve played, in a fair way (ie no IWTBTG stuff). And there are plenty of co ordination in the game anyways if you want to do it, and sometimes it’s even nessecary.

3. I want to point out your last sentence. ‘who cares?’. Not trying to be rude but if you don’t care, you clearly won’t find any. Also, so what if it’s a MMO? Why dues that mean it can’t have an exploration element to it? Especially it’s a living world to explore as opposed to a console game’s ‘dead’ world.

These guys are going to complain about anything. It’s what drives them. Makes them feel useful. Yea, most of the time they are absolutely wrong, but at least it’s actually a VAST minority of the players who play the game. One week they are complaining that something is too hard, the next week everything is too easy. They complain about only having two weeks to do stuff when 90% of the living story content was available for 4 week periods or more. They say the game lacks diversity in combat, but yet they don’t want their zerker builds touched because that’s all they play across the board. They implore that they need a fat, juicy carrot on a stick in front of them at all times, but yet they can’t ever see said carrot when it’s there.

You will find very little sense in this forum.

I have nothing against the game, I’m still playing it, but I’m just pointing out things from my point of view. its fine if you don’t agree.

About exploration – give me a reason to explore? I have already done 100% map completion, there is absolutely no incentive for me to go back and revisit these places. Thats why I said “who cares” GW2 has great maps, great visual, but its an abandoned wasteland for the most part unless you see alts leveling. People only every go to different places for the daily reset of meta world bosses. No one does any DEs like they used to back when orr was fun. Exploration is nonexistent imo.

I personally don’t see how you guys believe LS is content…. its small new peice of a story that after 1-2 days, you pretty much done with. You get the achievements, get the shiny new item or w/e and its pretty much over. If they had more with events like twisted, I would enjoy it. a lot of people just don’t see these activities like running around in a baazar doing races as meaningful content. Its just there to kill some time or have some fun for an hour or 2…. its not endgame

Its not heading anywhere if they don’t release meaningful content

PvE is still a laughable face roll. You only need one set of gear with the same zerk stats just like at release and you can complete everything you want to in PvE

sPvP has no new game modes so that has changed very little since release. Still unbalanced and they just removed/scrapped the entire glory system meaning anet dropped the ball completely on sPvP.

WvW – who ever has the biggest blob wins. The only “endgame” if you can call it that….

So yea, until I see some serious changes its heading no where (some new traits that majority of the players won’t use is for sure not enough, zerker meta is unchanged, its still all you need to do PvE, brainless champ trains for endgame farming lol)

nGumball.1283:

Dark Catalyst.1028:

Malediktus.9250:

GW2 is just a casual grindy game with no proper endgame or challanges.

Pretty much. You forgot to mention the cash shop though, where you can buy skins that should’ve been obtainable in game, and cosplay in the LA chat room with your friends.

WoW is a hard-core grindy game with forceable endgame, no combat, no exploration and mounts etc. to purchase even-though it is pay to play.

1. At least it has endgame.

2. combat is respective to the user. Opinions vary. However, combat in GW2 is absolutely face roll and requires little to no coordination (outside of sPvP). Everything in the game can be done with just 1 set of gear (zerker) that has not changed. There is little to no gear diversity in any mode of PvE

3.There is no exploration in GW2 either. You get your map completed (took me 1 week for PvE and a few days for WvW maps) And you will never go to those portions in the map ever again unless they give it meaninful content. Vast majority of the population is in frostgorge/queensdale zerging or vigil keep. I’m not sure what exploration you are talking about here. Also, who cares? If you wanna really explore and be immersed, go play Skyrim. This is an MMO.

4. Mounts – again opinion based. some ppl like it some don’t. Meh personally. has no real impact on a successful MMO or not.

5. WoW will always have more users than GW2. Just a fact. It’s dwindling no doubt, but you are sadly mistaken if you think GW2 is even close to their current population…..Theres quite a few dead servers here in gw2.

The good thing about GW2 is i don’t feel pressured to keep playing…. no sub so its nice to have that luxury to come back whenever I feel like the game will be worth my time

However, you are crazy if you don’t believe the releases of ESO/Wildstar/EQN and even Diablo 3 xpac will not have an impact on GW2 population….

At the moment, I personally don’t feel like theres a reason to keep playing (besides WvW season…or until they announce actual meaningful content additions to the game

Sorry but Thieves are better simply because their mobility can also turn into invisible mobility….

A good thief can engage/disengage AT WILL against anything (1v1s or groups)

Thief wins the mobility because of their stealth AND variety of escapes (shadowsteps, infiltrator arrow, heartseeker spam, etc on short initiative cooldowns)

Warriors are no doubt #2 though…

Just have everything unlocked period in pvp (in terms of trait/skills)….. how on god’s green earth is that hard to comprehend????

For crying out loud, just add a poll in the heart of mists or poll the spvp community forums and ask players how they want it…I can’t believe the amount of neglect the community gets, seriously listen to feedback…. the players are the ones playing the game and if the majority of them don’t like the “locked traits” feature, why would you put in the game?

I just don’t understand what on earth the point is….why try to “change” something that isn’t broke?

that requires extra resources – something NCsoft won’t fund anet to do….anet BARELY has the man power in terms of employees , no chance they can afford to add PTS servers and run them for testing purposes

Chrispy.5641:

Zerio.4731:

Norjena.5172:

Basic knowlegde…

Trtuh.

Not Truth. If you are only using Warhorn to attack enemies you can’t reach, then you are not using the skill right. If you want to be maximizing your damage, you need to be using that skill on your target whenever it comes off of cooldown.

The original poster, Atheria, had Skirmishing 2 traited, which is Sharpened Edges, which applies bleeding on critical hits (66% chance). That is 17 potential bleeds. If Atheria has an Earth Sigil, equipped, that is 17 more potential bleeds. THIS is Basic Knowledge!

Norjena’s uninformed Statement is the real reason why Rangers suck. Quoting posts for Truth when there is not a shred of truth at all in those statements is the real reason why Rangers suck!

No the real reason why I and so many others think they suck is because of the fact there is absolutely NO REASON to bring a ranger into wvw zerg over other classes

You give me one kitten reason why I should bring my ranger over my ele/necro….
If I’m feeling like being a tank/frontliner and support, you give me one kitten reason why I should bring a pathethic ranger over my guard that provides all kinds of support , utility, and easy tagging for bags.
I’ll give rangers healing spring, its nice for frontline tanking. drop it and blast it with horn is nice healing for the frontliners. But thats about it. Nothing else says wow, this is more helpful than my guardian in terms of support….

Look, rangers have their uses in roaming, no arguing that. They are fantastic roamers.

But If i ever want to hop on the zerg, i’m not bringing my ranger. Period. Go ahead you can bring it, but its garbage in terms of supporting a zerg. I have other classes and they are astronomically more useful than a ranger in a zerg in every situation.

That is why rangers just SUCK (in wvw zerg at least)

PvE – who cares, everything is viable there, doesn’t matter what class (some are better than others obviously but again, no one SUCKS , unless they player himself sucks)
sPvP – suck, they have a max 3 builds (spirit ranger, power LB/GS for crits but pretty selfish and worthless for a team support, or trap ranger) –
WvW – outside of roaming, suck

Orpheal.8263:

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Lol wow, i’m shocked at how you actually believe this is going to hurt the “game economy”

you realize PvE bugs/exploits have caused waaay more damage to the economy than 5 ppl getting free legendaries??

TP flippers make thousands of gold a week.

Why are you so bent out of shape over this??

I seriously hope they anet gives them even more legendaries just to rustle you’re jimmies some more… get over yourself

This tourney requires ACTUAL SKILL and TEAMWORK to win…. theres thousands of PvE players that can go out and grind like zombies at champ trains and get a freaking legendary. They are NOT that special period. Their are better skins out there anyways lol.

PvP players should get something way more unique imo than a crappy legendary.
The PvE in this game is absolutely some of the easiest i’ve ever played in an MMO. Its built for extreme casuals and requires very little competence to excel at.

Awarding skill is something this game should have done a long time ago instead of this casual lala land zerg/get carried your way to victory

DeWolfe.2174:

Vol.7601:

At least the people who are winning this are winning based on merit/skill, rather than time/luck/grinding like they have the whole time.

So doing work has no merit now????#smh gg, young people

You call farming champ train for endless hours work? you realize people just bot it right?
There is no TRUE work.. I can watch movies and do homework while farming a champ train to get my legendary

Chrispy.5641:

Substance E.4852:

Chrispy.5641:

Substance E.4852:

Chrispy.5641:

SkiTz.4590:

Prysin.8542:

@Wolfyrik
Since you seem to enjoy reading and quoting things slightly out of context in a completely unrelated manner, i will kindly tell you this; Your own post history betrays you.

Thank you, have a good evening and carry on.

@Jocksy
Take traps, dump em on feet, apply extra damage (often, it doesnt get cleansed right away because their duration is so short so people may not notice, especially the burn). Sure it may not sound exceptionally good to deal roughly 1.5k to 15 people. Then again, in the same timeframe your traps do that, that warrior’s GS or guardian hammer does 2-4k on 3-5 people.

Another handy aspect of this is that while your zerg moves through, finishers such as leap, blast and projectile will spread burning (poison trap still has no field to it) on even more enemies. This is an indirect and un-planned effect. But it should not be dismissed. A fire field is a fire field, regardless how it is deployed.

So yes, traps are not “the absolute best” option in a zerg, but considering which tree they are in, you are also free to grab a SB or LB with piercing arrows and apply some bleed stacks and more direct damage ontop of the traps.
Rangers have only one good zerg weapon, which is GS. Only reason it is good is because it mitigates damage done to us, while dishing out respectable damage to the enemy. As for AOE, traps are the only option that will not get you killed by retaliation. They are tricky to use, but their size and effect coupled with low CD, and being conditions they completely ignores armor, it can actually be argued that traited traps are our best form of AOE.

It doesn’t change the fact that I would NEVER bring along a ranger to WvW in a zerg/group setting.

GW2 has been out for a while, a lot of ppl have viable alts and they play them

literally, every other class is better in supporting/helping a zerg than ranger is. Heck even venom share thieves provide better group support than anything rangers give.

I have absolutely no logical reason to bring along my ranger over lets say my ele when i go to WvW. Unless I want to play selfish and just run around with a zerg spamming 1 on LB.
Its a sad state for ranger in WvW, theres no arguing against it.

whatever dude….I’m going to say this : L2P the profession, and maybe, just maybe, one day when you’re all grown up, and big and strong (or atleast wiser), you’ll find out what uses the ranger does have instead of whining all the time and acting like the ranger is 100% useless 100% of the time.

And maybe one day you’ll actually play WvW, join a zerg, and know what he said is 100% true. It’s not opinion, it’s objective fact.

Except that I do play WvW, and I play in Zergs, with a Trap build. So, what he says is obviously not 100% true, because its working just fine for me!

And Maybe one day you’ll actually play WvW and learn how Traps Builds can work in a Zerg, and just maybe, somewhere down the road, I’ll be accepting your appology. Until then, Trap builds work, and you have failed to make a single point otherwise.

Why would I apologize to someone who uses a trap build in a zerg? That’s just silly.

Well, I guess that means you also wont bother to learn how trap builds work in Zergs for yourself either then

….oh well. no hard feelings.

Enjoy throwing traps around and scratching the opposing zerg while Eles can drop 8-10k meteor bombs, static fields, water fields, fire fields spamming for might, etc.

Look dude, by all means go for your trap ranger in WvW frontline. thats great and all..but if i want to frontline support, I would rather get on my guard…

Its only in custom arenas…. not even in a new game mode for competitive play..lol…

Judge Banks.9018:

Isn’t eternity only worth like $600 to $800USD?

The rewards. . . definitely not eSports

GW2 is not even a blip on the e-sports radar…..
Its about as popular as pking in runescape dude… GW1 pvp is still much entertaining pvp than what we currently have

They just NOW added team deathmatch… and to make it even worse, its only available in custom arenas… you can’t even play it on ques lol but crap like skyhammer still exists…. amazing logic

Orpheal.8263:

For me personally these rewards are unacceptable.
Way too rewarding for doing just over the course of a few days some few minute battles and gettign rewarded with something, that takes other players that are mostly no pvp’ers like an eternity to get….

Plus this gives those winners a huge financial advantage over other players, if these rewards should be sellable in the TP.
These rewards will be only acceptable, if anet makes legendaries before of that tourney finally unsellable in the TP by changing legendaries into accountbound items.

You act as if ANYONE can just hop into a tourney and win these prizes

Any PvE player that decides to hop into this tourney will get absolutely smoked by guys who have been doing PvP for majority of their game time.

Only ONE team will get a the prize… thats not going to disrupt ANYTHING on the market if they so decide to sell 5 legendaries lmao.

Anyone with a credit card can buy w/e they want on the market. There are more credit card warriors/ TP flippers that have waay bigger financial advantages

The PvE’ers crying about these prizes is hysterical.
I pve more than do spvp (but i do almost have champion hunter, just need few more wins) only after about 2 weeks of pvp…I enjoy both game modes and do pve more simply because theres more to do there but still, I think these rewards should be even better. I say give the winner even more prizes.

PvP deserves to be held to a higher standard.

There is absolutely nothing even CLOSE in terms of testing an indivuals skill as a team player in PvE like there is in tPvP.

These rewards are absolutely fine and should be even more imo

All you have to do to get a legendary in PvE is explore + farm champ train for endless hours. You think that requires any sort of prestige or skill? thats purely a test of patience.

Atherakhia.4086:

I imagine even the fanbois have had a taste of reality now? After seeing the new traits, the lack of updates, the fact no trait changes are coming, and how lightning reflexes now breaking immobilize is likely the only real improvement coming on 4/15, can anyone still sit here thinking ANet has a single employee who plays this class?

Chrispy? Prysin? Any other die hard, anet can do no wrong-ers?

All i saw were some buffs to healing and condi cleansing
Only damage buff we got was on 1 condi (poison)

How can anyone be happy with these changes idk…

Its time to re-roll, yall can theorycraft and keep playing such an obviously weak class but I’m done with this.

There is still NO reason for me to bring this class in WvW
There are waay better DPS/support buffs other classes got than ranger. Nothing is amazingly unique about these changes
No big change to PvP meta (looks like spirits will still be the main thing)

There won’t be any other changes after april 15 until at least like october.
Pretty disappointed with these changes.

These are all grandmaster traits you realize that right?

Ours seem so lack luster compared to some of the OP traits other classes just got

thieves just got 50% reduced damage in stealth….
eles got perma blindness and immune to critical hits in earth lol

I don’t see anything that WOWs me as a ranger… this is pathethic. I expected major buffs…
we got some versatile utility and condi cleansing (which guardians are WAAY better at so I could just play guard if i wanted to do these things) but still, no buff to damage at all.
Looks like anet wants to stick this class to a pure support/condi ,

no other true build diversity here, re-roll time

Prysin.8542:

@Wolfyrik
Since you seem to enjoy reading and quoting things slightly out of context in a completely unrelated manner, i will kindly tell you this; Your own post history betrays you.

Thank you, have a good evening and carry on.

@Jocksy
Take traps, dump em on feet, apply extra damage (often, it doesnt get cleansed right away because their duration is so short so people may not notice, especially the burn). Sure it may not sound exceptionally good to deal roughly 1.5k to 15 people. Then again, in the same timeframe your traps do that, that warrior’s GS or guardian hammer does 2-4k on 3-5 people.

Another handy aspect of this is that while your zerg moves through, finishers such as leap, blast and projectile will spread burning (poison trap still has no field to it) on even more enemies. This is an indirect and un-planned effect. But it should not be dismissed. A fire field is a fire field, regardless how it is deployed.

So yes, traps are not “the absolute best” option in a zerg, but considering which tree they are in, you are also free to grab a SB or LB with piercing arrows and apply some bleed stacks and more direct damage ontop of the traps.
Rangers have only one good zerg weapon, which is GS. Only reason it is good is because it mitigates damage done to us, while dishing out respectable damage to the enemy. As for AOE, traps are the only option that will not get you killed by retaliation. They are tricky to use, but their size and effect coupled with low CD, and being conditions they completely ignores armor, it can actually be argued that traited traps are our best form of AOE.

It doesn’t change the fact that I would NEVER bring along a ranger to WvW in a zerg/group setting.

GW2 has been out for a while, a lot of ppl have viable alts and they play them

literally, every other class is better in supporting/helping a zerg than ranger is. Heck even venom share thieves provide better group support than anything rangers give.

I have absolutely no logical reason to bring along my ranger over lets say my ele when i go to WvW. Unless I want to play selfish and just run around with a zerg spamming 1 on LB.
Its a sad state for ranger in WvW, theres no arguing against it.

oshilator.4681:

swipe a credit card…. win a tournament…. legendaries mean less & less these days….

they never meant anything to begin with.

Anything that requires just a mindless grind that requires nothing but RNG + farming something that requires no skill what so ever makes it meaningless

Besides, there are waaay better skins out there than legendary skins

Fire – Blinding ashes – AOE blinding for 5s when you burn someone (5s cooldown) – OP
Earth – Stone heart – Can’t be critically hit while attuned to earth – OOOOOPPP

LOL the game just got real. Eles are back with a vengence

Discuss

This is straight from the ready up stream btw

LOL pve players are complaining over 5 free legendaries to the best PvP team?

get over yourself.

Legendary is totally meaningless.

Fact – you can just buy one with a credit card

There is nothing skill wise required to acquire a legendary, its just a mindless grind.

This is about the lack of accountability

when a game director tells the community one thing and than later, something is implemented that goes completely against what was OFFICIALLY stated months ago is setting a pretty bad example

Now there is a trust issue/conflict. Can we actually believe what anet tells us now?

BeardRex.6739:

SkiTz.4590:

I just don’t understand anet…

why on earth do these type of things that the MAJORITY of the community is against????

Where is your data that supports the “MAJORITY” is against this?

Saying “look at all the posts” is not good enough.

This forum is filled with people saying “Look at everyone speaking up against this! There are literally dozens of us! Dozens!”

I wouldn’t base it off forums
I base it on what a lot of my guildies who heavily play spvp
I base it on what nearly everyone standing around in HoTM waiting on que say…

Sure theres ppl who love skyhammer lol, its a troll/fun map and some ppl love it, but it has no business in competitive pvp

I still don’t get why anet doesnt implement ingame poll or voting system and let the community decide if they like this or not… its a great way to get feedback

I just don’t understand anet…

why on earth do these type of things that the MAJORITY of the community is against????

That is my simple question

the community has tirelessly spoken about skyhammer and there is still NOTHING from anets side about it

This shows me they don’t care

Now we have this ridiculous unlocking system where once again THE MAJORITY OF THE COMMUNITY (PvP community) is completely against……

why on earth make these changes when its absolutely going to be met with hate? I don’t get this logic at all, so please, explain it to me justin or anyone really

Because this is NOT what they told us it would be like. ArenaNet explicitly and repeatedly stated that PVP would always have everything unlocked, as recently as July 2013.

so what gives???

don’t get me wrong,
It’s a good addition for PvE, but it shouldn’t be there for sPvP. I mean honestly you could lock every class at one build until you pay 50 gold to unlock the other trait choices and still argue “It’s only horizontal progression”. Grandmaster Traits are usually absolutely build defining(unless you play ranger lol), I don’t want to be locked out of a build choice, because I didn’t pay X-Amount of gold to a vendor ingame.

This nerf has absolutely no effect what so ever on the meta

until mob AI mechanics change or condi caps change, there will be NO DIVERSITY what so ever.

I will NOT change my gear from zerk to something else because of this nerf lol.

ALL other stat combos are still below par (in terms of PvE , wvw/pvp is a whole diff story)

Again, there is 0 diversity in PvE for gw2.
This nerf did absolutely nothing period to add build diversity lol. I’m not sure what makes people think it will have an impact at all in PvE. Zerk will still be better than all other options, that is a fact.

Until anet announces a real change other than number tweaks, zerk will remain meta. Fact

Chrispy.5641:

SkiTz.4590:

Raiff.6742:

This class is awesome. It is my 4th level 80. Necro, Engi, and Guard are all my others. Ranger has more DPS potential than any other class, save Thief. The utility is all sorts of amazing, and both our crit values (Chance and Damage) are in the same tree! This class is just like any other, in that it is only as good as you make it.

Would love to hear how you actually believe rangers have high DPS potential lol

They don’t. DPS and ranger don’t go in the same sentence.
If you are talking about the 1 trick pony of moment of clarity + signets + maul combo. thats about the only burst you have and again, that combo NEVER works on a compotent player. Anyone can stun break out or dodge the highly telegraphed moves this combo has

If you are talking about rapid fire + quickening zephyr, again, lol. that’s so easy to dodge half the arrows or just simply pop a reflect project which every class basically has.
I don’t think anyone has ever lost a duel to a ranger using a LB. you have to be really bad at this game if you get bursted down by a ranger…

I kill thieves all the time with Longbow. They pop into stealth thinking they are safe, but, Rapid fire tracks the target even into stealth (actually any skill that started activation before the target went into stealth seems to track as long as you aren’t moving around too much).

eh I guess.. just never seems to kill them for me…a good thief usually has some kind of healing going on while in stealth + they can still dodge any of those rapid fires coming at them but ofc i rarely ever use LB as my weapon in spvp..every other weapon just seems better to me.. if you can survive the theives initial bursts and hunt them down in their stealth, they are very easy to beat but they can be a pain to catch…. especially good thieves who know how to reset fights at will

Neural.1824:

everything from new systems that change and upgrade the way you experience Guild Wars 2 to quality of life and balance updates that improve existing gameplay systems.

The part in bold. Yeah, my guess is we’re getting a VIP system.

If there is a VIP system, this game will be done.
The amount of outrage over that system in china is already enormous lol, if that gets implemented here in NA…man i hope the forum mods have internet armor because thats gonna bring the forums down

Raiff.6742:

This class is awesome. It is my 4th level 80. Necro, Engi, and Guard are all my others. Ranger has more DPS potential than any other class, save Thief. The utility is all sorts of amazing, and both our crit values (Chance and Damage) are in the same tree! This class is just like any other, in that it is only as good as you make it.

Would love to hear how you actually believe rangers have high DPS potential lol

They don’t. DPS and ranger don’t go in the same sentence.
If you are talking about the 1 trick pony of moment of clarity + signets + maul combo. thats about the only burst you have and again, that combo NEVER works on a compotent player. Anyone can stun break out or dodge the highly telegraphed moves this combo has

If you are talking about rapid fire + quickening zephyr, again, lol. that’s so easy to dodge half the arrows or just simply pop a reflect project which every class basically has.
I don’t think anyone has ever lost a duel to a ranger using a LB. you have to be really bad at this game if you get bursted down by a ranger…

Prysin.8542:

From the blog related to the new feature pack coming on April 15th…

Ranger: Read the Wind (Marksman GM trait)
Ranger: Your arrows are swift and deadly, but in some scenarios they are not as fast as they need to be and your enemies can dodge them easily. With Marksmanship’s new Read the Wind, your longbow arrows will fire at twice their base velocity, allowing for supreme accuracy at long range.

This + Quickening Zephyr and rangers can once more kill thieves, necros, eles, mesmers and anything else with too low HP with “Gattling Gun Rapid Fire”…
#PowerLBroaming2014

brings even more selfishness in ranger for WvW zerg, and I highly doubt anyone uses this for roaming lol.

theives, meh anything will kill them if they are on low health + you rarely see them in zergs lol. besides they have stealth if they get low on health
necros, yea they are never easy to kill with 2 life bars
eles/mesmers have plenty of reflects, but yeah, they will be easier to kill but eles just got a ton of healing

This trait change doesn’t change the fact rangers are pretty much worthless in a group setting for WvW. It only encourages selfish play by spending a lot of trait points into a faster pew pew.

Overall a meh change. have fun killing yourself with QZ + new trait + peircing arrow. Retailation/reflects are are gonna hurt lol

I’m sorry, but I also have an ele and a ranger.
I simply don’t user ranger at all in WvW. Ele is just so much more useful and versatile for a group and its not even debatable. They just got even better with their new 25% healing boost.

Rangers aren’t useful if you are trying to support a group lol.

pza.8024:

Substance E.4852:

The only thing anyone can count on is balance changes are probably not going to happen during WvW Season2 March28-May30

So either next Tuesday, or not until June.

that’s not right. only changes to wvw rank skills are not going to happen during season, since you cannot respec them. balance patches can come whenever they like, because why not?

because balance patch is going to allegedly “shake” up the meta… you can’t really play around and test out all the newly balanced things while WvW season is going on…

Balance patch is going to change gameplay in terms of gear, dps, etc and anet already stated they aren’t going to do that during WvW season… I could be wrong ofc but meh, until I see something official, I have no reason to believe anet will shake up the meta during a WvW season… its either coming before the season starts or after it has ended

No one knows until someone anet officially makes a response…. all of this talk is pure speculation at this point

As useful as this post is… I just don’t believe anet cares lol.

We are a minority base here (pvp players that is)
Anet has no reason to put in much effort to solutions in this broken pvp system.

Just wait it out until the feature patch (could be weeks away, or months, im going with months)

Because there will be nothing changed before that feature patch, guaranteed

bhagwad.4281:

Look at all the people feeling morally superior saying “Play for fun!” or “You shouldn’t want a reward!” or “Look at xyz game” (usually mobas).

What they don’t realize is that GW2 is an MMO which from the time the genre was created has come to be almost synonymous with one thing – PROGRESSION. And not progression of skills, but progression of characters. Better skills, cooler weapons or armor, just getting richer, titles etc.

Saying “Play for fun” is not enough because for most people, getting rewards is the fun part! Otherwise you’re just wasting time because you put in all that effort for nothing.

The only reason I PvP is because I liked the rank system allowing me to get higher and higher ranks that were difficult to achieve. Progression. Improvement of characters. That is the motivation for playing.

People need to get off their high horse and realize that they can play for “pure fun” if they want. No one is stopping them. The rest of us need a nice juicy fat carrot to put in the effort.

I would have fun if there was true form of diversity and balance in pvp
You honestly believe playing agaisnt the same hambow warriors, MM necros, decap engis and spirit rangers over and over again is fun?

There hasn’t even been a new game mode SINCE RELEASE, you call playing the same game mode for that long FUN? That shows me one thing – anet doesn’t care about pvp. Right now, Gw1 is head and shoulders better than gw2 in pvp and its not even debatable

Look, I love the combat , no doubt its enjoyable and fluid, but its completely stale and leaves a bad taste in my mouth after a short period of time.

I see no diversity, I see no different game modes, I see no balance. That is not fun, you must have some other definition of fun compared to majority of the other players.

RaZaC.1963:

What on earth is wrong with you people. You actually expected a balance patch or something? How many layers of rock have you all been living under?

No offense dude, but how do you take away rewards and replace them with NOTHING?

Its going to be like this for the next 2 months imo (unless they announce on ready up when the spvp reward system will be implemented, which is highly unlikely since they don’t care about pvp due to the fact it doesn’t involve gemstore lol )

there is no logicial reason to take away rewards, replace them with absolutely nothing and than expect players to wait for a long period of time.

This is the way I see it.
You are working, getting paid every 2 weeks in the form of a check.
Your employer now says OK we don’t like this kind of check any more, so we are taking it away and going to figure out something later and pay you when its ready….

You honestly believe people are going to be happy about this?

THERES PLENTY OF OPTIONS , the fact anet gave the players NOTHING at all, is sad.

If there was nothing ready to be implemented, why on EARTH take away the only currency and reward in pvp? On what planet does this look like a logical move? Now there is absolutely no incentative for anyone to do pvp. I’m currently at 94/100 for champion hunter so ofc I’m gonna finish up 100 and call it done for now, but yesterday,
I ranked up from 25 to 26. You know what I got? a box with 4 different stacks of various T2 mats. Are you serious right now? this is what it comes to?

anet specifically said they will not be making major changes while the WvW season 2 tourney is going on…. so this can’t be possible (I mean it is, but than anet must be liars lol)

March 28 is when the tourney starts, ends late May I think?

I don’t expect to see any major changes like the feature patch to be implemented until WvW season 2 is completed.

Now they could very well change it prior to the WvW tourney starting but who knows at this point, its all speculation until we get an official response. I’m just not going to believe a major change will occur during WvW season 2… it would be totally unfair

Jski.6180:

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/info/devtracker
Is a great start if you want to see what the dev are saying. Do you think its best to have them post on every though where would they get the time to work on the game and post over every small thing that has been said over and over?

This is not even a true dev tracker

There is rarely a game developer posting or putting up so called “blogs” like many other forums do. This dev tracker mostly made up of posts by community managers/PR and they relay info from dev to community but only thing we hear is “SOON , we are aware, we are working on it..etc etc”

I can count the number of developer posts on my hand in daggum massive70 page ranger CDI. – That right there shows me they don’t have the answers or just don’t care about informing the community

And please for the love of god, don’t say "well their busy working , etc etc)

This has literally been one of the slowest developing games I’ve ever seen.
The rampant focus on gemstore items + LS story is the only true development they worry about. Everything else is lower priority.
Balancing is at an abysmal state, pvp just got wrecked, nothing has seriously changed from the zerk PvE meta or zerging, so I don’t see the excuse of “their too busy to answer” actually holding up…I see very little actual development the 3 cores in this game (PvE,PvP, WvW).

if they could make 20-25 man (split up into groups of 4-5) , instanced versions of these type of bosses, I would be down with it

Twisted fight was so fun, but ruined because of how often it would fail because soo many people were just flat out terrible at dodging and learning simple warden mechanics.
If it was offered in an instanced version where me and guildies could setup nightly runs or something that would be fantastic…only guild missions atm to do something like this… bosses/raids would bring plenty of life into the game

since when does loyal players mean anything to anet?

you guys act as if you are paying a sub or something

casuals are the ones that buy gemstore stuff for real $… thats the primary source of income, thus these players will be focused more and more

pvp is an afterthought and will remain an afterthought because it deals very little with gemstore…

most pvpers dont spend $$ on this lol

Jocksy.3415:

Prysin.8542:

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Please keep the modes APART.
Ranger is in the higher tiers in PvP, High tier in dungeons, viable but not preferred in PvE and useful in smaller WvW encounters.
snip.

Are we talking about the same class?

Ranger is in the higher tiers in PvP
Which high level PvP team is looking for rangers?

High tier in dungeons
And getting kicked from most groups even before saying hi?

viable but not preferred in PvE
hummmm… Solo PvE, maybe… Not gonna do the 6 mins achiev on any server that has half rangers, though you’re pretty sure to win it if there’s half that’s war…

useful in smaller WvW encounters
Though, once again, when partying the question is always “do you have an other character?”

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Some people would rather have me bring one of my level 40ish uplevels than my level 80 ranger…
Does that not give an idea of how well is the ranger profession doing?

Not sure what makes you think high tier pvp/pve groups are specifically looking for rangers

Are they viable? of course they are lol, every class is.

But NO ONE is going to put on a pug LFG post asking for rangers lol join haha.

They are mid tier in pve and pvp…. high tier for pve is guard/warrior/mesmer/eles…. all bring way better dps and utility than a lowly ranger and his pet…

pvp is a toss up, it depends on the rest of the team comp but spirit ranger IS THE ONLY useful team comp makeup for ranger. They have no diversity here in team arenas because their party support is atrocious outside of healing spring + spirit buffs

Ugruk.4069:

Thedenofsin.7340:

Ugruk.4069:

brannigan.9831:

Lol, I love this feature patch bs from the white knights. It will end up being disappointing. Just keep letting yourself be strung along. Keep letting them fool you that the fix for pvp is right around the corner. Don’t you understand yet they do not have enough resources committed to pvp and never will? They can have all the good intentions in the world but it doesn’t matter because they don’t have the resources. They do what management says.

Finally someone that isnt a total kitten, they are just capitalizing on the no subscription fee and take all the time in the world, and even if the pvp community leaves it doesnt make much difference on their wallets, because we dont use the store like the pve/wvw players, so we are “dead weight” basically

If PvP is dead weight and WvW/PVE is doing just fine with the professions as-is, then that means the Balance Team and PvP teams are also dead weight…

:)

balance and PvP teams are dead weight (no offense devs)

it took 8 months to nerf healing signet

What balance/PvP teams do you see on anet? theres like 3 guys on this team lol

Everyone I run into during SoloQ is running the same builds, hambow warriors, spirit rangers, decap engies, dhumfire/MM necros, etc.

PvP and balance teams are non existent lol, not trying to be rude, just being realistic here. Its been 1.5 years and theres been little to no change in PvP until now where they finally scrapped everything basically with the removal of pvp currency

Zodian.6597:

Frenk.5917:

Ugruk.4069:

Hehehe 2 weeks, you wish it was THAT soon :P

If it is more than 2 weeks, they will lose too many players due to Elder Scrolls online. I am one of those players

lol you must have not gotten into the beta… Poor soul, you haven’t the faintest idea of the hell you are about to about to walk into! (ESO = complete trash. Endured 7 months of horrible testing and bickering on the alpha forums to be able to say that! #DoYouEvenNDALift)

ESO is pretty bad… ive played the last 4 beta weekends… but meh, at least there is something to do and there is some form of progression lol… (still not enough reason for me to spent 60 bucks + 15 every month on it though, but plenty of others will )

GW2 , after 1.5 years, just scrapped their entire pvp system. what does that say?

nGumball.1283:

ZudetGambeous.9573:

Zypher.7609:

Atherakhia.4086:

Zypher.7609:

ZudetGambeous.9573:

It’s too late. Most people are quitting for either D3 or ESO after today’s patch. My 500 person guild just dissolved to move to D3… Anet got tons and tons of second chances, but people are just fed up with it now.

Why are people going to quit? Because they expected that today would be a large feature patch that A-net has said over and over again that it wouldn’t be?

Because the game is stale and no one wants to wait till July for another failed attempt at balance. Anet has squandered their fortunes with this game. Real competition is coming out now. GW2 isn’t the goto game just because ’there’s nothing else to play’.

Competition is always coming out, using this as a reason is just silly. Also if you feel that way just take a break from the game for a little bit, then wait until the patch comes out. You are in no way bound to the game, you do not pay a subscription, you do not sign your time over. Free to do what ever you need to do.

But that’s the thing…. competition HASN’T been coming out. There was a huge open field since GW2’s launch.

The only major release between launch and now was WoW: Pandas. Do you remember what happened when Pandas launched? The game almost died. Population fell by 40%, and sales plummeted. The devs panicked and quickly launched fractals + ascended gear to draw players back. It mostly worked and the population went back up and stabilized.

Now the drought of games is over. D3 is coming out, then ESO, then Wildstar, then WoW. Anet needs to have a proportional response to that or we will have a repeat of Novermber 2013…

Ascended gear got introduced around 1 year after MoP and the population didn’t get affected by much at all, the game was at it’s peak at that time. MoP released 1 month after GW2 and it bearly had an effect.

D3 isn’t an MMO, ESO and Wildstar are just decent MMOs and WoW, again? There is no quality-titles to compete with GW2. If players want to give up on the game and go to play crappier games, it is their choice and WoW have been there for 10 years, if u like the concept of it, you shouldn’t be here.

D3 is an MMO (PC at least) you have to be online to even play the game…and it just got way more fun with RoS release…. theres plenty of people in my guild that will be playing RoS once its released… Its pretty fun farming with a group of friends… cant say that in GW2…yea you could run fracs over and over again lol, which we are tired of doing ><

ESO and Wildstar arent released yet…. they can’t compete with GW2 players right now if they arent even out on the market yet lol

WoW I agree, I highly doubt GW2 will be losing players to WoW…

The rest however will affect gw2 population. yes there will be a drop in players. Those are new games that will be a breath of fresh air from this game… you say they are crappier games yet I can almost guarantee you ESO, D3 and Wildstar will have an impact on GW2 player activity during this lull period in GW2…It is waay more fun to start up a new MMO with a group of friends than it is to currently play this game, especially after you have already done a lot of the things this game has to offer…

Ya you can go and do WvW season 2 lol, i’ll pass. It won’t be any different than season 1… run around in a blob spam AOEs, great!

The question is, will GW2 have a reason for players to come back

Wishful thinking on your part but anet wants no part in starting another ranger CDI lol

What you see is what you get.

Allie is not to be blamed here, she isn’t a dev

The reason it wasn’t so collaborative is because anet devs are still scratching their heads…. they release what a mess rangers are in and its tough to answer the community when they can’t come up with an answer….

the lack of collaboration in the ranger CDI means anet devs don’t have an answer yet… (thats my assumption)

it takes literally one weekend to get from rank 1 to rank 14

make an Ele, slap a staff on it, go hop on the zerg train. spam AOEs. profit

I’m not sure if I love this whole new “soon” thing…

Maybe I’ll know soon if i really do or not…..

just take a break OP…. ive done that like twice in this game already lol

That is the one nice thing – no sub fee to pressure you into playing

If you have a goal like getting a legendary/full set of ascended, than by all means you have something to do until july

If not, ESO is coming out soon, D3 xpac is about to hit the market.

Go give it a shot until the feature patch.

Vol.7601:

Meglobob.8620:

A R W E N.6895:

I went back to diablo and saw that dev’s actually did listen to player request! And seriously the game is way better than it was.

Me and some friend went back to it. Gw2 is on rest for the moment.

Me too D3 Reaper of Souls is sooooo rewarding and the drops change your characters builds…Blizzard are slow but you do get quality and they LISTEN to there playerbase.

Anyway, back on topic, it will be on a Tuesday, hope that helps…lol.

It took them what, 2 years to remove the RMAH and change the game?

Yeah, D3 is the shining example of listening to the playerbase…when it’s too late.

ya look at GW2… its improved leaps and bounds from all the xpac like features being constantly added… /end sarcasm

No true builld/character diversity in PvE at all (zerk is all that is needed for any class to beat anything in PvE)
PvP is in shambles
WvW is basically whoever has the bigger blob wins
Temporary content and gemstore items to fill your hearts content though

Yea it took blizzard 2 years, but its lookin better with D3 RoS

Right now, I have no reason to believe this feature patch we are waiting for in july will fix the majority of the problems that plague the game. I will gladly eat some crow if it does, but theres no reason to believe it will