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^.^ Thanks for the fun three way fight at SMC yesterday. Even though we weren’t that many, you guys kept attacking and attacking for like forever.
I will not say I am not happy to fight YB again, because they always entertain in ways beyond previous matches. And I do enjoy their strategy as well as tenacity to keep up their pace.
It is not because they are many, as I observed the three servers were of equal number some of the time, just very spread out.
And as for EB, well, good to finally harvest some badges from you guys. Though I’m not particularly fond of having to run after you at that invulnerability spot in SW supply camp. :/ That is one thing which ARANET failed to fix. And hopefully will fix ASAP; so you can’t hide haha.
I like how you guys would bunker up in our supply camps. It reminds me of what we used to do when facing Kaining when we had nothing but the north camp. We defended that place like forever because that was all we had haha. Though you guys do have the numbers and strength to be on toe with YB if not better.
I also noticed that YB slacked this week. Not many of them yesterday >3< Or was it because of some other reason. (Go up a tier now will you >3<)
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Hi from CD.
Hope you enjoy fighting us again this week. And for EB, see you soon in the battlegrounds.
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Honestly what’s so bad about fighting the same 2 servers all the time if the match is close? I’ve enjoyed the BG/Kain/TC match-up more than any other match-up I’ve ever seen and would be thrilled to fight the same servers all the time.
I can understand how it could be bad in T8 where the top server always wins but doesn’t leave the tier, but the problem is that there currently isn’t any server that would be a good fit. SF dominates now but I think any server from T7 would dominate just as much if not more. Do you think the blowouts will be more fun if it’s a different server every week?
Yes. Different enemies, different strategy, different tactics.
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It’s fun.
Add sieges in well placed positions can stop a zerg.
People forget using the environment/strategy/imagination. >3<
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If winner move up loser move down it won’t be the same match every week. It will just be every other week. What will happen is winner will move up a tier get steam rolled, loser move down a tier and steam roll both worlds there with one that is two tiers lower than from where they just came. And the middle man will stay and get steam rolled by the team that just came but not as steam rolled as the team that moved up. So in the end what will happen is winner will move back up to where they were (nothing changed) loser move down to where they were (same thing) and the middle man just stay there. So then the next week you have the exact same match up as the week before.
That is one posibility. Another is, those from lower tiers might actually roll the higher tiers and so on.
Speaking from experience that RARELY happens. Was on a low tier server when I started game (wvw understanding was beyond lacking) and we held our own usually but never won. When in comes this server from a higher tier. Not our server or the other server owned a single camp/tower/keep/castle for the entire match. We had outmanned in our own BL and it was sad. Now that I am nothing but wvw I moved to a higher tier about 3 months ago and those still happen. Albeit not as much but you still have the straight blowouts like the Kain/DB/Mag match up where kain just kinda roflstomped through us all.
Those are past experiences. The present may or may not be the same.
You never know until it actually happens.
Hey if it does. I will welcome the change for the first week. Then after 3 matches let’s see what happens. And tbh at times it was nice to just look at wvw and be like yeah…. I don’t need to go because it really won’ t matter right now.
That is according to you. And if you justified it like that, then I doubt your opinion will change.
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Define fair. And we can talk about this subject.
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If winner move up loser move down it won’t be the same match every week. It will just be every other week. What will happen is winner will move up a tier get steam rolled, loser move down a tier and steam roll both worlds there with one that is two tiers lower than from where they just came. And the middle man will stay and get steam rolled by the team that just came but not as steam rolled as the team that moved up. So in the end what will happen is winner will move back up to where they were (nothing changed) loser move down to where they were (same thing) and the middle man just stay there. So then the next week you have the exact same match up as the week before.
That is one posibility. Another is, those from lower tiers might actually roll the higher tiers and so on.
Speaking from experience that RARELY happens. Was on a low tier server when I started game (wvw understanding was beyond lacking) and we held our own usually but never won. When in comes this server from a higher tier. Not our server or the other server owned a single camp/tower/keep/castle for the entire match. We had outmanned in our own BL and it was sad. Now that I am nothing but wvw I moved to a higher tier about 3 months ago and those still happen. Albeit not as much but you still have the straight blowouts like the Kain/DB/Mag match up where kain just kinda roflstomped through us all.
Those are past experiences. The present may or may not be the same.
You never know until it actually happens.
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If winner move up loser move down it won’t be the same match every week. It will just be every other week. What will happen is winner will move up a tier get steam rolled, loser move down a tier and steam roll both worlds there with one that is two tiers lower than from where they just came. And the middle man will stay and get steam rolled by the team that just came but not as steam rolled as the team that moved up. So in the end what will happen is winner will move back up to where they were (nothing changed) loser move down to where they were (same thing) and the middle man just stay there. So then the next week you have the exact same match up as the week before.
That is one posibility. Another is, those from lower tiers might actually roll the higher tiers and so on.
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:3 Been fun. Wish you luck. And thanks for the badges. <3
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Presence [Awe]
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:3 Assume nothing. Who knows, if you move up a tier, the battle will be more fun. Else, remain and fight with us.
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thing is, assume that balance is a non-issue – due to server change = pay; so it is already not balanced.
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It suddenly dawned on me that CD has a strong presence at WvW last evening (GMT+8, 14 Feb) is either due to having understanding bf/gf, or lack of one
…excuse me while I walk off a cliff in a golem…
P.S. For the lucky folks who have dinner date, Happy Valentines Day ^^
Some of us are married too. So, hehe
Meaning you get the lonely single-guy night only with a bunch of wasted money to go along with it thanks to the hallmark holiday.
>3< Money, reminds me I have to work on this logo for the company. >3<
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Interesting use of the stun gear things in WvW.
:3 The person who won was smart, and the person who lost didn’t think about that tactic.
No sour grapping please.
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Hmm, this might work. But requires more detail in to it.
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If 3 wins, it becomes 2. And eventually 1. Then going to another tier, while losers go down.
Eventually servers will find which tier they can stay the longest or go down/up depending on their server’s wvw capacity.
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It suddenly dawned on me that CD has a strong presence at WvW last evening (GMT+8, 14 Feb) is either due to having understanding bf/gf, or lack of one
…excuse me while I walk off a cliff in a golem…
P.S. For the lucky folks who have dinner date, Happy Valentines Day ^^
Some of us are married too. So, hehe
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Hehe, people want it easy at all times. Hmmm,
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ERRRMERRGERRD!
kitten CD! I applaud the speed at which you guys just ZB’d through the walls and the 5 of us trying to man a defense at Bay. Seriously, no snarky insults here, truly the speed in which you guys amassed that sea of players and rolled over the keep and our attempt at defense was astounding.I’m used to being constantly outnumbered, being one of the very few Benders that plays during the night/oceanic hours but often we have been able to at least collect some badges and stall for a few minutes. Ya’ll didn’t even lose a stride in plowing through Bay like a freight train.
Hot kitten /p>
We lack elementalists w/ focus >3< but we have so many open ground trooper builds that it is scary >3<
To add, we don’t really spend much in CD; so that’s one reason we can’t keep everything nor take everything for long.
You must have observed this at some time.
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I do not support using exploits, I have seen it done by SBI and YB and even my fellow CD players, and as always, I report it.
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Not sure what server Lebannen plays on but I don’t see this ever happening in team or map chat on SBI in wvwvw and I am on most nights.
I always take posts like his from servers that have been put through the wringer for weeks with a grain of salt. It can be really frustrating fighting an overwhelming force week after week (having suffered Kaineng, couple weeks of the newly formed FA as well as the mass exodus from CD I can understand the frustration).
I remember that week. >3< It took a lot of massaging bruised egos and building the community again. >3<
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Okay, today was a fun day. YB and SBI were kicking our kitten and SBI not for the first time this week was on top of things in our prime time. Good for you guys.
Here are some highlight screenshots, in favor of CD of course, from my point of view >3<
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SBI needs to be in Tier 5 or 6. We do not have the commanders outside of one (isolani) who can manage mass warfare.
The sheer volume of bad commanders is staggering. SBI can only compete with servers that we outnumber them. Every time someone poses a different strategy, you are met with ridicule and harassment. If you refuse to join the SBI team-speak server or make a comment about how you don’t like to join a chat, ridicule.
If you call someone out for hypocrisy and horrible tactics with colorful names, they report you.
If you call out someone who wants to just use the JP instead of actually helping, they report you
Voice your displeasure over getting rolled by a numerically inferior force, they call you a band wagoner and try to harass you to leave the server.
Lose one battle, “lets make havoc squads” Instead of “lets change our tactics and try again” This is against equal numbers. (no outmanned buff showing)
I could go on, but ANET is far to politically correct and wanting to cater to the weak minded for me to be truly honest.
wow… you guys really take things too seriously >3<
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This was a long and painful fight in this tower. I just wanted to prove to my guys that they can take it even if we lose it. >3< I needed to shout a lot and even appeal to their manhood. >3< but they did it. And YB capped it back easily ahah.
Here’s the group who fought SBI in openland.
Here’s a simple video where my guildmates, 8 of them defended against many.
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I’ll be happy if you guys beat us this week. I hate being right, but I think my server needs to get off her high horse and face facts, that we need more practice and training, and we’re not really prepared for higher tiers yet.
To my fellow CD players, we don’t need to justify anything.
Let’s just enjoy the remaining week. And fight our hardest when we can.
There’s a big gap between Tier 3 and Tier 4, so whoever moves up is going to probably get blasted.
Still, that won’t stop us from fighting the good fight…
I salute. Never said you shouldn’t back down from a fight. In fact, I’d be disappointed if you guys cowered down. Keep it up, and get better; so you guys can remain in t3 in the least or get higher.
Till then, I will be glad to farm badges from you, and show you guys a nice time in this WVW.
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I’ll be happy if you guys beat us this week. I hate being right, but I think my server needs to get off her high horse and face facts, that we need more practice and training, and we’re not really prepared for higher tiers yet.
To my fellow CD players, we don’t need to justify anything. Let’s just enjoy the remaining week. And fight our hardest when we can.
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Yeah, I agree. I still remember the horrors when a Mesmer portal 8 golems to a gate with oil still on while working on a SBI keep. Ended up with melted
Metal. Effort yes, but need more training. We are still tier 7 overall.I don’t think CD is a tier 7 server at all. Your Oceanic/Euro timezone coverage is great and your NA coverage isn’t bad. CD is holding it’s own during NA prime time compared to YB’s non-prime time.
:3 Hehe, thanks for the positive complement, but I think our CD still has lessons to learn. >3< We often forget organization once we’re winning a bit. But we are a fun loving server; so taking things seriously isn’t really a part of the plan.
We’ll be sure to beat you guys if we can. Else, maybe next time. haha
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Do your best. I’m rooting for you guys. As you keep fighting, I get to spend time helping my sister get acquainted with this game.
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Defending QL >3<, nice try YB. You almost took it. Man, you guys are scary when you mean it. >3<
Luckily my back up came in time.
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Those complaining that CD simply PvDoor during our prime time should go and find out how many golems we made yesterday to push the blues out of EB. Having it easy is one thing, wanting it back badly and quick is another
Well, we don’t really pvp their door. As I posted earlier. But we do whack it even if they rain us with heavy duty superior AC’s because we can repel those with swirling winds.
It’s just that, normally, during the day, we don’t really use strategy to defend or take back our land. But at night time, we’re pretty much very organized.
Take yesterday for example, fought about 20-40 plus sbi and yb zerg, and we trampled them not because we were many, but because our zerg, composed of a 5 man party in part was following orders with particular grouping make up. Like guardians/ele/warriors etc. And our front liners were purely def based builds.
Same as when we were back stabbed by an invisible zerg in the north camp, but easily dispatched it because of team composition.
I hate to admit it, but our na presence needs to take the SEA presence as an example.
Oh well. That’s the life.
We make justifications for winning or losing. But in the end of the day, we know the truth. And we don’t really need to brag or put anybody down. SBI and YB are strong competitors. And we are strong too.
Who is better? Hmmm… I don’t know. I still think CD as a whole is a tier 7 server. And we really need a lot of training to be better.
More better fights for us all.
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EU – Strategy through professions + sieges.
EU – people want you to ask for help before helping, but they will say often ask me for help and i will help you
NA – Upgraded sieges and massive number of players.
NA – … well, i haven’t really received help from any NA person yet haha.
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Both cultures have different play styles. Both are fun.
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The issue is people hate losing, and seem to think it’s because the enemy has a bigger zerg. It’s just an excuse, most of the time. >3<
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Try to enjoy the game. Win or lose, at least create a new bond.
This game is designed to make us competitive in wvw, especially if you observe the dynamic events.
But sometimes looking at the score takes the fun out of the game. This is a lesson which CD server often times forget(kaining scenario after facing fa). And seems to affect other servers as well.
Enjoy, defend a supply camp, and hang out with friends. Else, why play?
Shout out to my noble Filipino players. I’m looking for you. Hook me up in-game.
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>3<
After we took the tower, the system imprisoned me. Why? !!!!
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Happy new year ;3
Hi to bay : and to hills: and gar
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Anyone else run into the thief from YB in the DISC guild that was seemingly impossible to kill and easily dispatched the tutorial guy in the middle of the CD keep while players tried to attack him? Somehow managed to continually disappear after being immobilized and updrafted as well.
If that is skill, I hope that player is recording it via fraps and posts it.
He has been doing it since last week match. We tend ignore him, seems like he have an obsession with that particular npc.
screenshot and report it; so aranet can deal with it.
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Anyone else from CD noticed that based on current scores, we are predicted to fight Mag and Ebay next week?
We should first make sure that we play better rather than assuming we’ll fight different opponents next time. We’ll know by the end of the week.
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Man, this is the first time I’m disappointed.
1. How did siege razer get inside when the door was closed? ( i made sure to tank him the entire time, while my team repaired the gate – and after repair, i went in through the door, a minute or two later, gate/wall still intact, then razer gets in :/ wtf)
Anet better fix that bug.
2. BB fight was awesome except for that part.
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Found two afk like ppl catapulting our north bay. Was weird, they allowed me to kill them w/o fighting.
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:3 Okay, if you were at ebg earlier, you would have enjoyed this part. Kudos to SBI for holding us like a boss. >3<
Now this is how Borderlands should look like. All Green Blue and Red, while only pimples found in ebg.
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Tower defense. We’ll be invading and defending for awhile.
I hope you guys don’t mind our stay.
talking to a lone sbi ranger. >3< with fireworks.
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Good fight in Bay earlier. And that tower besides bay.
Room for improvement, there is, in our CD server.
We almost got it, but you guys pushed us away. ^^ That was awesome.
Was an awesome fight. I was YB’s Commander on CD and we enjoyed it immensely. How many Trebs did you guys put up over the 2/3 hour siege of DB?
A lot. Haha.
I can’t speak for the rest of my server mates, but I i feel like we let you guys down by not taking that bay back. >3<
Great job keeping it locked tight.
Yeah I counted double digit Trebs over that period. And yes you definetly had the numbers to take it. I had to pull people/supply off other maps to hold it after which we seemed to break your morale as your zerg disappeared and now we have your whole map
True, if it were up to me. We should have kept the other areas green rather than focus on bay solely. >3< But everyone has their own idea of playing this game. What I can do mere, then, was to support everyone.
When our kids return from chinese new year, I do hope we’ll be able to give you guys a better fight. >3<
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Good fight in Bay earlier. And that tower besides bay.
Room for improvement, there is, in our CD server.
We almost got it, but you guys pushed us away. ^^ That was awesome.
Was an awesome fight. I was YB’s Commander on CD and we enjoyed it immensely. How many Trebs did you guys put up over the 2/3 hour siege of DB?
A lot. Haha. I can’t speak for the rest of my server mates, but I i feel like we let you guys down by not taking that bay back. >3<
Great job keeping it locked tight.
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Saturday afternoon, took 25 minutes to get 10 people to start break out in EB for SBI. After finally getting the Mendons with about 14 people, we were met with about 50 from Yaks Bend. Looks like its going to be a bad week to WvWvW. They really need to let us drop faster.
Dropping faster will not improve much the situation.
SBI is just not generating the number of player*hours required for coverage. And in this tier it is no longer about the opposition being suffocating. Whenever we have a half decent number of people on a map we are doing fine.
The number of people still doing WvW in SBI is finite. Good, even great people but not that many. We either ask these people to do extra hours (something I’m totally against) or we try to lure more into a WvW environment that has little appeal right now. When WvW rewards will kick in, a lot of casuals will be back and we will be ready. Maybe not for climbing back to T1, but at least to have a gratifying WvW experience. Which we do have now IMO.
And I honestly appreciate the quality of the opponents we faced since T2. TC back then, YB and CD – all great servers with people who do WvW for the right reasons.
Grats to all.
In terms of quality battle, I find facing your server is harder than YB (no offense, you guys are awesome too – scores says all). If you guys are able to get your numbers up, I’m certain you can faceroll both YB and my CD.
Till then, I hope my buddies and me will be able to deliver much competition this coming week.
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I don’t like blowouts one way or the other. If I can’t get kills because A. we’re being spawn camped or B. the enemy went home, Wvw isn’t fun.
I wish anet would do more about these lopsided situations.
Can’t really do much about this because we all live in different locations, and play at different time zones. What we can do, however, is to detach ourselves from looking at the score or map color, and just have fun defending, taking, a parcel of land in a borderland, and hopefully improve our in-game tactics.
:3
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Good fight in Bay earlier. And that tower besides bay. Room for improvement, there is, in our CD server.
We almost got it, but you guys pushed us away. ^^ That was awesome.
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I like it. As long as I time it right, it’s instant kill. Kills enemies fast, etc./camps zergs. But the time is to short >3<
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Good job YB, just like last week. >3< maybe you will win this week. Keep up the faith SBI. You were once within the T1 servers.
CD let’s keep improving.
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And our playmates decided to push. Man, that was a lot.
It was like a tug of war. Pushing you guys away from faithleep.
Also, this one brave soldier squared off with me at north camp. I salute you.
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Epic battle at YB Bay.
They were so many, and just 10 of us held as we invaded the lords room. >.< man that was scary.
YB were so fierce and relentles.
Hey I’m in that pic… and surprisingly, not dead yet! We only had a few of us there as well, so I think the feeling was fairly mutual on that fight
edit: I just realized you were targeting me xD I tried my hardest not to die, but I knew it was useless. I wasn’t about to give up though >>
Sweet. Man, you guys really made it difficult for us. We were like, let’s get out of here. haha
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Epic battle at YB Bay.
They were so many, and just 10 of us held as we invaded the lords room. >.< man that was scary.
YB were so fierce and relentles.
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I can’t blame server transferees because they have free will. I myself came from vabbi, then desolation, then crystal desert, then sea fearers, and back here to crystal desert.
It’s looking for a place that you fit in. And I seem to fit, mildly with the Crystal Desert people. Though, I’m still looking for more Filipino players here. ^,.,^
So, if ppl transfer or stay, it’s their choice. And if we fight difficult opponents, we can only stand by helping each other, and making sure we see what we did wrong, and how to do something that will give a favorable outcome.
p.s.
if you’re filipino, and a member of crystal desert, look me up.
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