WvW is still crap with no meaning to it. “Let them take the keep, we can take it back for more reward”. I am so sick of hearing this crap. You would have NEVER heard such a thing in Daoc. This game is a joke.
I have yet to hear that on my server.
Yet you fail to name that server, guild, or crowd you pall around with.
The WvW in this game could be amazing. Yet it’s not, and getting worse all the time.
I’m waiting for the new game by Bungie to come.
Play it for a couple weeks before the kitten hacks bring their cheats.
PPT is gone at this point. Pveholes want nothing to do with combat, helping the server, or defending.
WvW peeps just want the bags.
WvW peeps can’t get onto maps to get the bags cause of the Frostgorge pve train.
Pve scrubs even troll map chat to kitten off their server counter parts.
Bags. The only reason I still play this game.
Never underestimate a PVE crowd who thinks they will get a Gold reward for completing the Achieves in silver, in last place.
Man. BP PVE kitten trolls are in full force. They even hate the WvW BP crowd it seems.
Shame…..
Spazz, I don’t think you were even on BP yet that night. Either way, yes we did engage them several times on their own. The first time was after they had gone through MEND. We were doing troll build tuesdays and we two-shot alaric with class cannon killshot warriors. After that we put our real classes/builds on and found them several other times. Alaric fell back to the numbers argument. The same argument he uses when promoting SIC, he’ll talk about 15 v. 40 all day when he’s wiping pug zergs but backs out when he loses 10 v. 20. Regardless, I do respect SIC’s fighting heart… it has good people. But SIC really didn’t need another kitten talker, Alaric covers that role just fine
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I was there. I was one of the 3 of us you got down. Hardly a wipe.
It is very clear that both you and the Mend xfer Banzie, Focused on something trivial in Alaric’s posts and teh point went over your heads. Now you want to exaggerate it and flaunt your internet muscles.
Either way, SIC will be meeting both of you on the field sometime in teh next 7 weeks.
I do apologize. SOR dislike runs deep within me.
I prey for forgiveness, trolling was not the intent. I have sinned since my point has been over looked.
Fact
Blackgate, first server to reach full status meaning they are the most populated server in the game.Fact. JQ queues more PVP oriented peeps, and is the number one server over all throughout the history of GW2.
Pugs are gonna determine the first couple weeks, then the heavy weights will shine.
btw
I wasn’t meaning it in a offensive way, it’s just the fact that BG has the healthiest server population in the game (if i word it that way it would probably attract less hate).No offense taken. I left JQ moons ago, but still have a thing for them.
We still love you suicide necros/eles.
Always willing to sacrifice ourselves for the good of the group.
IOJ I do wish you all luck in this. I was really hoping I had found a home when coming to IOJ, and my leaving was not easy, and well before the “rest”
Mend seems to have a history with SIC. It’s nothing personal with IOJ. I too can’t wait to Spike Karn/Mend (all in good fun buddy).
Core on the other hand, I will be thinking of IOJ with each spike I put through a Core member.
The best matchups, fights, competition, etc will be found here. That is a Victory in my mind, for all servers. All of Silver League (maybe not NSP) is going to have fun.
/cheers to silver league. I raise this toast to all of us.
I don’t think SIC staked a single one of us. All of our encounters were edited out of your sick 1337 dubstep video. I don’t expect that to change the next time our paths cross. SIC feeds on pug zergs. They’re not that hard to wipe, no need to add some sick wubwub music to make it look cooler than it is. Really though, all the other SIC tags are just speed bumps on our way to the good brother Alaric.
Hhrrrrrmmm. WHile you wait for us to engage another group on your server, then come in and overwhelm us with numbers with our cool downs blown, sure. Whatever you say.
You have yet to engage SIC on open ground before another guild, group, pugs, engaged us first. Core seems to be Cowards on teh fringe of the battle until they can win. Great strategy for sure, but very very bad. Sure flanking an engaged group is great for server ppt and all…
Pew Pew Kittens.
Nothing more needs said.
Fact
Blackgate, first server to reach full status meaning they are the most populated server in the game.Fact. JQ queues more PVP oriented peeps, and is the number one server over all throughout the history of GW2.
Pugs are gonna determine the first couple weeks, then the heavy weights will shine.
btw
I wasn’t meaning it in a offensive way, it’s just the fact that BG has the healthiest server population in the game (if i word it that way it would probably attract less hate).
No offense taken. I left JQ moons ago, but still have a thing for them.
The rewards included in season 1 achievements should help to address this. Very specifically the ascended crafting materials. It is also the case, that we want people playing all the parts of the game, so there are always going to be optimal ways to get specific rewards and those may not always include WvW. We are building the whole of GW2 and we try and balance things across all the game types.
We will continue to make strides, however, to make WvW feel more rewarding, especially in this type of area.
I’m curious if you can name one thing achievable in WvWvW that isn’t faster and more abundant in PvE?
Getting supply and building siege. What do I win?
Must you win something other than Pride and server recognition?
What is with this ’what’s in it for me?" “I can’t do anything without getting paid” Mentality?
Go kill someone on a bL. Join a group/zerg and go have fun. What the kitten…. /shakeheadinlap
Fact
Blackgate, first server to reach full status meaning they are the most populated server in the game.
Fact. JQ queues more PVP oriented peeps, and is the number one server over all throughout the history of GW2.
Pugs are gonna determine the first couple weeks, then the heavy weights will shine.
According to leaderboards NSP is part of Bronze league and Kaineng got up into Silver leage
Wait what? Did you just ruin my speech? Nahh, couldn’t be…
IOJ I do wish you all luck in this. I was really hoping I had found a home when coming to IOJ, and my leaving was not easy, and well before the “rest”
Mend seems to have a history with SIC. It’s nothing personal with IOJ. I too can’t wait to Spike Karn/Mend (all in good fun buddy).
Core on the other hand, I will be thinking of IOJ with each spike I put through a Core member.
The best matchups, fights, competition, etc will be found here. That is a Victory in my mind, for all servers. All of Silver League (maybe not NSP) is going to have fun.
/cheers to silver league. I raise this toast to all of us.
Good luck to HzH and JQ in the leagues.
Great video!
When this happens, please talk it over with your server leadership who decided to engage in what turned out to be a pointless exercise in the lowest levels of sportsmanship, one of the worse in recent WvW history.
Maguuma is aware of this and will probably act accordingly as well.
And how will they act knowing that JQ and BG have done exactly what SOR is accused of doing? How will you act? Or is it only not OK when its done against SOS?
Read the first line of my post you replied to, and then omitted showing that it didn’t sink in.
SoR folks used it to play kingmaker in a Tier 2 match. That’s lower than a snake’s scrotum, sorry.
Yes it really looks like we are trying to play kingmaker……….
Having server alliances gets talked up all the time on here as something that should happen more, yet when it actually happens players cry foul. I get angry when JQ and BG do it to us but its not cheating its just a part of the game.
Not only that, but split times zones. Server A &B have alliance against server C during this time. Server B & C have alliance against server A at this time.
It’s part of the game. Saboteurs, spies, backstabs, alliances, are all apart of war. What are we doing in WvW? it’s a 3 way war.
Seems everybody crying “Foul” has never watched Braveheart.
Hey Wolf, you too! I saw one of you wave, I had to wave back.
That was me, I was attempting to establish peaceful relations to determine your intentions. Once a BP mesmer attempted to yank me off the tower, I realized “……..they’re not here to sell us cookies”. Disbelief and panic spread through Lake like an IoJ exodus…..we were so sure it was cookies.
/thumbsup
Everyone do the Yawnstretch JQ dance!!!!!
I have way too much of the Ascended mats taking up bank space. All from WvW, few guild missions. All in all I would love to sell it. I have no need for an Ascended weapon when it takes more Gold than I can get from WvW. And I refuse to go through map completion for a legendary.
So i’ll just kill you with Exotic stuff unless I get a drop.
Good luck to all of the Bronze servers!
My money is on FC. Heeeeyyyyy PPK
Just a little advice for SBI.
Do not let this get you down. Collaboration between commanders from different servers is a normal thing in T1 matchups. SOme listen, some do not. Most just let it go and do what they want.
So while it is Very Lame imo, it does happen; let the issue make SBI stronger. You could ask the guild to leave SBI, or you could just keep on doing what it was that got you that high in ranks. Either way, do not let something like this cause strife. Shrug it off and enjoy the fights.
Bumpin dis like….
Please check out http://stridenticonoclast.guildlaunch.com/forums/viewforum.php?f=2155035&gid=320744 to apply.
Did you see the ppt? IOJ loves PPT right? At least give props for that….
Fairly obvious that IOJ is kitten.
Sorry that the few SIC members on at these times wiped you multiple times, and helped build a WP in your HIlls. One SIC member won 5 gold for a long distance jump off of your hills bridge.
Most of SIC is not even on at these times or running as anything other than a few members with a new server.
If this makes your Jimmie hard, so be it.
Nothing like Internet Muscles when you get wiped 10 times and then get that special someone once.
Pics or vid would be great to back up what you say. I got pics of the naked long jump from your HIlls if you’d like
Sorry martin. We can’t anymore. We are now BP.
This news is delicious.
Oh ho ho ho, I’m with you on this. Delish news.
I to must agree.
Thief? You mean those annoying things who run and heal, then come back to you?
Ignore them and they go away, but a great roaming necro build will destroy them over time. Other then that, any scrub can play a troll thief, good players choose not to roll a thief outside of trolling or GvG.
Sop they roll condi burst necros or stun lock warriors. These good players you mention are simply not there. Players roll with what wins for them it is about as simple as that. As much BS specs we see in WvW I can’t help but wonder who the hell thinks this D/P build is the only cheese we see.
Players like to win, have big fancy tittles, and feel good about them selves. “Good players” generally use the same OP mechanics but justify it with the fact they are using it in a more skillful way. Generally they will say something along the lines of, “Stealth is OP so my thief doesn’t use stealth”. but instead run SD perma evades. Or run a build like hammer warrior and say that other players aren’t dodging. You do not find “good players” in WvW. You generally find those abusing the current FOTM and those abusing the old fotm that people have just come to accept and move on from. The Idea that a place with so much imbalance could actually have “good players” is nearly a joke.
TL;DR
There are some skilled players in WvW, but the idea that they run around in subpar builds being noble is a kittening joke.Cheese is cheese. you either eat it or stop whining. My Fidel can’t handle anymore.
Plenty of good players around. They’re usually the ones in the 20 man group who just murdered your 50 man zerg.
Hence why thieves are Meh and should be ignored in WvW.
Who runs a condition necro? Oh that’s right, see my Fidel.
Char WArrior running a hammer are just a part of life. Brawler tactics work, shame it caught on. Did I mention my Fidel?
I never understand the stupid kitten people post. You want to have discussion then have it. Whatever this ‘fidel" bullkitten is it doesn’t matter. End of the day people run cheese builds ss dd complaining about one is pointless since there are so many. Oh and a 20 man hammer train inst good play its normal play that is hard to counter. There is not a super good player who shows the masses how it is done. The best players run cheese builds and cheese set ups. Not that big a deal. Anet isn’t changing things in WvW.
There will always be counters to every build. Some players just cant take their loss and move on.
Factually no there isn’t. Thief DP does not have a hard counter. Not a real one if the thief is competent. In WvW mobility and aversion are the name of the game. Thief mobility is high enough out run most but this isn’t the issue. Unless stealth has some hard counter like something that pops you out of it forcibly there really isn’t a counter to it.
Now do not lose your mind over this because in the zerg v zerg environment we live is thief is one of the most useless classes out there outside of scouting. This isn’t up for debate there are too many classes better suited for big fights. So the real complaint is about roaming. I personally feel D/P gets too much but at the same time thief is forced into roaming and small group play to be truly effective. Unless Anet plans to change this no matter how OP thief my seem it’s utility is overall very limited.
i will wait for the obligatory I beat a DP thief roaming so it can be done counter. I respond in advance that thief wasn’t very good then.
I will wait for the obligatory SB cluster bomb is good in a big fight or dagger storm is good counter. I will say hammer is more useful as are engineers, necromancers, eles, and mesmers. Even rangers have better range by far.
Edit
Fidel is just that. Think about. If I used Fiddle instead then it would all make sense.
Meh to the rest. So many crying threads in the WvW section I hardly read it. Feel lucky and see my Fidel, or my Fiddle.
Let me be clear. I do not care. Our conversation is already over.
Ah cool. I don’t have to worry this anymore.
Seriously SOR, it took 60 of you that were at bay to come and kill 3 of us that took a camp on your BL.
Welcome to tier 1. Where a roaming groups is at least 30 ppl. you must have gotten hit by a guild group. A zerg would be a map queue with SOR.
Thief? You mean those annoying things who run and heal, then come back to you?
Ignore them and they go away, but a great roaming necro build will destroy them over time. Other then that, any scrub can play a troll thief, good players choose not to roll a thief outside of trolling or GvG.
Sop they roll condi burst necros or stun lock warriors. These good players you mention are simply not there. Players roll with what wins for them it is about as simple as that. As much BS specs we see in WvW I can’t help but wonder who the hell thinks this D/P build is the only cheese we see.
Players like to win, have big fancy tittles, and feel good about them selves. “Good players” generally use the same OP mechanics but justify it with the fact they are using it in a more skillful way. Generally they will say something along the lines of, “Stealth is OP so my thief doesn’t use stealth”. but instead run SD perma evades. Or run a build like hammer warrior and say that other players aren’t dodging. You do not find “good players” in WvW. You generally find those abusing the current FOTM and those abusing the old fotm that people have just come to accept and move on from. The Idea that a place with so much imbalance could actually have “good players” is nearly a joke.
TL;DR
There are some skilled players in WvW, but the idea that they run around in subpar builds being noble is a kittening joke.Cheese is cheese. you either eat it or stop whining. My Fidel can’t handle anymore.
Plenty of good players around. They’re usually the ones in the 20 man group who just murdered your 50 man zerg.
Hence why thieves are Meh and should be ignored in WvW.
Who runs a condition necro? Oh that’s right, see my Fidel.
Char WArrior running a hammer are just a part of life. Brawler tactics work, shame it caught on. Did I mention my Fidel?
I never understand the stupid kitten people post. You want to have discussion then have it. Whatever this ‘fidel" bullkitten is it doesn’t matter. End of the day people run cheese builds ss dd complaining about one is pointless since there are so many. Oh and a 20 man hammer train inst good play its normal play that is hard to counter. There is not a super good player who shows the masses how it is done. The best players run cheese builds and cheese set ups. Not that big a deal. Anet isn’t changing things in WvW.
Fidel is just that. Think about. If I used Fiddle instead then it would all make sense.
Meh to the rest. So many crying threads in the WvW section I hardly read it. Feel lucky and see my Fidel, or my Fiddle.
Thief? You mean those annoying things who run and heal, then come back to you?
Ignore them and they go away, but a great roaming necro build will destroy them over time. Other then that, any scrub can play a troll thief, good players choose not to roll a thief outside of trolling or GvG.
Sop they roll condi burst necros or stun lock warriors. These good players you mention are simply not there. Players roll with what wins for them it is about as simple as that. As much BS specs we see in WvW I can’t help but wonder who the hell thinks this D/P build is the only cheese we see.
Players like to win, have big fancy tittles, and feel good about them selves. “Good players” generally use the same OP mechanics but justify it with the fact they are using it in a more skillful way. Generally they will say something along the lines of, “Stealth is OP so my thief doesn’t use stealth”. but instead run SD perma evades. Or run a build like hammer warrior and say that other players aren’t dodging. You do not find “good players” in WvW. You generally find those abusing the current FOTM and those abusing the old fotm that people have just come to accept and move on from. The Idea that a place with so much imbalance could actually have “good players” is nearly a joke.
TL;DR
There are some skilled players in WvW, but the idea that they run around in subpar builds being noble is a kittening joke.
Cheese is cheese. you either eat it or stop whining. My Fidel can’t handle anymore.
Plenty of good players around. They’re usually the ones in the 20 man group who just murdered your 50 man zerg.
Hence why thieves are Meh and should be ignored in WvW.
Who runs a condition necro? Oh that’s right, see my Fidel.
Char WArrior running a hammer are just a part of life. Brawler tactics work, shame it caught on. Did I mention my Fidel?
And SBI talked Kitten in tier 6-5.
Holding your own against these servers????
Happy for SBI getting the matchup they wanted, though a little out of bounds with SOR.
http://mos.millenium.org/na/matchups/map/1053
About 2/3s of EB and 2/3s of our own BL vs SOR? I suppose we are doing alright for a kitten server.
You’re in 2nd place with the #1 ranked server (cough cough) and #5. That says something to me.
I’m glad to see SBI where they should be. No wonder you guys rolled over # 17, 15 and such.
And SBI talked Kitten in tier 6-5.
Holding your own against these servers????
Happy for SBI getting the matchup they wanted, though a little out of bounds with SOR.
Thief? You mean those annoying things who run and heal, then come back to you?
Ignore them and they go away, but a great roaming necro build will destroy them over time. Other then that, any scrub can play a troll thief, good players choose not to roll a thief outside of trolling or GvG.
Wut? I don’t think Devon set foot inside of a WvW match.
I’m the greatest WvW player….
Waitwut? SOR needs moar peeps??
How many more bandwagons does SOR need to beat JQ?
Face it. JQ is Gold Winner due to quality over quantity. 
Anyway, I guess Karn is a bit shy….
Goodbye IOJ, it was fun. AR WvW group was fantastic to run with, though small . Nat is truly a T1 Commander.
I leave IOJ with this. Listen and follow Nat. He knows what is needed when it is needed. Sorry it doesn’t jive with IOJ or IOJA; may be a reason…
Crazyyyyy lag issues on BP bl. We were all d/c’ing and getting 10 seconds of skill lag. Kind of an unfair advantage :P.
Same thing happening to us since reset yesterday.
I say we all blame the T1 servers. Yes they are the cause of everything
Did T1 cause you to join Mend without saying anything to your old guildies? Hmmm…
We are looking for a new server (IOJ was not a good fit)
So you will most likely see us on CD/BP/EBay in the near future.
I.E IoJ is not going to steam roll anymore.
I assure you SIC didn’t leave because IoJ started facing competition. They left because the community wasn’t very accepting of them. It’s sad really :/ personally I enjoyed your stay at IoJ and I’m sure I’m not alone in that, I hope you guys find a good place to stay
Lets tell the truth here. SIC is a good guild and their leader is not a easy guy to have by your side if you want a friendly enviroment.
Our server was very, VERY friendly and accepted them very well, but you all know what was happening… all I can say is good luck to SIC and their new server.Please elaborate; what was happening?
While brash, truth hurts. Very friendly server while kicking a guild out? Hmmm…
IOJ wants Care Bears, is what I hear in your post.
are you even serious?
lol
Yes. If you do not understand I understand.
Hmmm. If I Leave IOJ and join BP I will be sure to attack and defend Hills in IOJ BL this week.
No Suicide Necros? We keep the zerg off of your retreating butt.
Anyway, bump for a fantastic guild on the #1 server.
We are looking for a new server (IOJ was not a good fit)
So you will most likely see us on CD/BP/EBay in the near future.
I.E IoJ is not going to steam roll anymore.
I assure you SIC didn’t leave because IoJ started facing competition. They left because the community wasn’t very accepting of them. It’s sad really :/ personally I enjoyed your stay at IoJ and I’m sure I’m not alone in that, I hope you guys find a good place to stay
Lets tell the truth here. SIC is a good guild and their leader is not a easy guy to have by your side if you want a friendly enviroment.
Our server was very, VERY friendly and accepted them very well, but you all know what was happening… all I can say is good luck to SIC and their new server.
Please elaborate; what was happening?
While brash, truth hurts. Very friendly server while kicking a guild out? Hmmm…
IOJ wants Care Bears, is what I hear in your post.
We are looking for a new server (IOJ was not a good fit)
So you will most likely see us on CD/BP/EBay in the near future.
I.E IoJ is not going to steam roll anymore.
I assure you SIC didn’t leave because IoJ started facing competition. They left because the community wasn’t very accepting of them. It’s sad really :/ personally I enjoyed your stay at IoJ and I’m sure I’m not alone in that, I hope you guys find a good place to stay
You are far from the only one that enjoyed having SIC around. Unfortunately IOJ leadership says otherwise.
I to wish SIC good luck wherever they may go.
le sigh… CD has a member building trebs, BP zergs took a tower with ac’s managing to cover entire tops of tower walls, hit inside lords room and wipe all siege… this game is getting screwed by Anet and the player base is helping.
League of legends has less trolls and a better community which is sad.
Don’t leave out IoJ glitch capping keeps, it’s a set.
I really hope we aren’t.
I missed the post that you quoted. I have yet to see or hear on TS about Any IOJ glitch capping keeps.
Pretty sure IOJ would investigate such things. Sounds like someone is kitten to me.
SOme fun stuff in IOJ BL tonight. BP’s numbers….
That 3 way fight for Garrison brought back memories of T1, skill lag and all. :/
Great fights this morning with CD in EB, Musta made about 10g
My bags were full of bags. :o
So you are the only Engi running in your guild?
I never stated where or when…
kitten … I came into this thread hoping to troll Zoomhaven 2.0 but dude you are a sitting duck here. I’ll let it slide this time but in the future keep the Horatio Caine kitten to yourself.
Hmmm…Yeah…
Bronze League will be best fights until IRON, HZH, ATM xfer there. Believe me, ATM can field more than the three bottom servers combined in WvW.
Boi!!!!
I love enemy Hax. Love Anet even more for doing nothing about the hack issue.
NA, I’m looking at you.
wut
Did I stutter?
Engi, Mesmer, later an Ele…
See, once you play the game long enough, then find the website/video’s, you can kinda pull it; Out of the Crowd.
I mean, you’re either delusional, or intentionally trying to start drama if you think we’re hacking. Are you sure you’re not mistaking us lagging for hacking? lol. Please, elaborate on how we hacked.
Drama I hate as much as cheating. First time i brought it up even.
I am not saying NA as a whole is the issue, just some enemy with an NA tag running and Engi/mesmer team. Flat out running the “blank” multihack. It was so obvious I really can’t put it into words.
Okay, I was the engi and I have no idea what this “blank” multihack you are talking about is. It’s really not obvious because we’re really not hacking and I have no idea where you’ve come up with this idea.
So you are the only Engi running in your guild?
I never stated where or when…
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