Guild Wars 2

MegaManExpert.8413:

So yes, we did “Double Team” you but it was to prevent Us from getting double teamed in return. Say what you will about the “Double Teaming” as a cheat, but I saw it as a way to prevent a crushing blow to IoJ.

If NSP decided not to DT with you, what makes you think we would do it against you?
NSP does not DT. We did focus DH but if you’re expecting us to completely * ignore your side then you’re the kitten here.
What you are basically saying is.

NSP, server 4 places below us so clearly lacking in population, was proven to be too much of a threat because our commanders cant multi-task and fight on 2 fronts and have to make a deal with 1 server per matchup or else we lose, we gave you the opportunity to DT DH with us but when you refused 3 of our smallest peen commanders DT’ed you and we are great.

Congratulations
lol

Rob.7624:

THE Dentist.5960:

Yep I definitely think we hit a nerve with IoJ! Luvin it!

I think we uncovered some of IoJ’s best commanders and some of their super LOLDERP ones.

so true.

And welcome for the golems, im glad somone else loved them like i did after i had to log off

GavinGoodrich.1382:

If you wanna rebuild, you gotta rebuild smart. Doing things that have consequences that hurt your server’s population is dumb and you should feel dumb.

…

You had 3 options.

1) fight NSP+IOJ VS DH (NSP did not want to officially double team but were focus DH anyway)
2) fight NSP vs IOJ vs DH (this option was clearly too difficult)
3) throw a nerd ragefit and fight NSP vs IOJ + DH (since you know, NSP is such a big threat)

Say what you want about “consequences” but after all this is a game, and NSP players know who they are, and now everyone knows who you are … lol

GavinGoodrich.1382:

Noroz it never was about “winning” against NSP. You guys have our respect when it comes to skill. Believe me. We all feel that way. Our grudge comes from the way we play—we hit the biggest server constantly, week after week, no matter what. I dunno on what page or who said we were “better.” kitten that, you guys are outstanding players. Who the kitten said that? They oughta be castrated. You guys rock.

Stonemist may have been one time, but hey…If you don’t want to deal with the consequences, don’t do it. Like i said from the day it happened. This is more about payback due to frustration vs. trying to win vs. a team that we have no business fighting when there’s another bigger server to fight.

It’s a week-long match. If you kitten off a team you deal with the consequences. Neither of us are more right than the other, this is simply how we deal with it. A lot of NSP were like “lol whatever” on tuesday night, and happily farmed us into oblivion. We got our arses handed to us on a blue platter with little blue toothpicks sticking into each of our little green arses.

When Wed. and Thurs. came around and our Oceanics turned up the heat, suddenly it was “oh well we got all these stats that say we rocked your face anyway.” I mean make up your mind. Do you care or not? I do. Both servers hitting DH means DH actually has to sweat it out, and hey on thursday/friday all THREE servers dictate who gets 1st, not 1 server deciding who gets 2nd. Way more fun, right?

so in translation, you are mad because we took sm, oh im sorry for playing the game.

NSP wakittenting DH for majority of the time, You got nerd rage, claimed glory for DT and now the whole forum thinks you’re a scrub

gg

KinkyGiraffe.4123:

Natar.3671:

It’s reset day. Go kill each other in wvw instead of forum wars

but OMNOMNOMNOMNOM NSP

EDIT: Look at that double team Dark Isle of Janthaven for the win! (dont mind our corner in eb gettin flogged) >.>
And again, we started in your borderlands ninjaring hills off of dh with 6 people, we now have nearly 15 roaming around, and little to no NSP, whats the go!

lol

just lol that you think tag teaming a 3rd place server, 4 positions behind you in rankings at the start of the week, on a friday, in their off hours is an achivement worthy of bragging.

oh IOJ, i sincerely hope this is not a representation of your server. Spent a whole week begging for a double team while NSP were not focusing ioj, most we took was stonemist and one of your eb towers, and i had 20 golems sitting in DH bl all day, then crying about it some more on forums, then double teaming (aka scavenging cos it looks like DH is just doing their own thing). Good job, you did you server good today… oh wait you still lost a rank and we gained one? awks.

Props to DH crew holding NSP BL briar

It was a pain to crack and we had an ioj hills rush just as the wall finally went down b
Made me think

<3

Tukmolytes.3467:

Hmmm, did I promise something? Darn, I think I got alzeimer’s.

lol gg
but Rob did say he was gonna be out today, and that’s his time-frame,
i suppose yesterday was too much when we were actually there, have fun with our keeps!

Natronix.9827:

I need to congratulate NSP for how organized their offensive tactics are ( Atleast their particular guild). Today they ninja’d SM from us, again! Yep, it ticked us off, we were outmanned and facing DH’s zerg and keep’s trebs while NSP golem rushed SM. Later on we managed to successfully hit NSP’s garri down, only for the same NSP golem rush to take our EB LL keep down.

I’ve been on most of the day, and it has been kittening stressing for me, probably because of Rob, lol. Dude, nice leading. That’s all I can say. We lost all our keeps in our BL with your 25 golems and a 40 man NSP zerg, hills and bay didnt stand a chance… but here comes the most frustrating and demoralizing part for me. The lost of garri.

I threw at least 2g on defensive siege, prepared it, made garri a bunker! I wouldn’t think no matter how many golems you guys had it wouldn’t fall… I was wrong, the constant sieging and smashing from different places had us all confused, and when that inner gate was gone we kept trying and trying to defend with all the sieges we had but yet we lost. I was laying in the middle of the lords room dead, watching ya take our garri and build a treb on top of my corpse. lol.

Even though you guys didn’t get to hold those keeps for long and really didn’t produce much points, you made a clear statement. I definitely underestimated NSP, so kudos to that team. Truth is, we weren’t just outmanned, we got outplayed. After you guys left our BL i had my morale and my pockets destroyed.

I’ve learned a lot during this week. Had a ton of fun and frustrating moments, the ratings, scores and such don’t matter to me at all at this point.

Well hello there, looks like you ended up on the receiving end of a Smitry Song Special, I am truly sorry for your garrison, it was well sieged up… like really well. Had me and rob actually thinking. It was nice.

The treb we erected on your corpse was not of shame, but that of good effort, was really fun for us atleast and hope for you at some base level also.

We were going to continue our crusade but then DH took our EB keep and we had to go kill stuff there Apologies for half decorated BL

GavinGoodrich.1382:

Rob.7624:

GavinGoodrich.1382:

Rob.7624:

I mean. That wasn’t very hard. DH would have walked through them.

It was ready for DH. Not you. You know…the server that’s the actual main threat in this match? Oh right you wanna pretend to play for 2nd…right.

Taking DH’s keep when they’re dug in deep, in high ground, while IOJ is bleeding people out of their prime time and overextended, going into euro time is gonna require a double team, full out, for several hours, including help from NSP.

Which ain’t gonna happen, right? So we waited for DH. Then the sucker punch happened.

Have you taken the time to look at DH’s bl at any point today.

Smitry Song.

But can I ask how we are any different from an invading DH force?
I mean.
Like thanks for the compliment but, anyone with stealth could have walked up to that third floor.
Which is what we did

The 3rd floor was because you caught us compleeeeeeeetely off guard. Hell most of us died in the lord’s room that were meant to be up there. Total ambush and nice job. Crappy scouting on our end. My literal reaction was “WHAT!?!?!??!?!!?! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOkittenRUN EVERYONE RUN 3rd FLOOOR RNOOOOOOOO”

But there’s more to it than just runnin’ around cappin’ it. I mean if you wanna really put the screws to the winning server you gotta really hold that north end for a while, even an hour or two. I mean they just took it right back. I saw ya take it but it flipped back faster than Megan Fox on a casting couch. Then they came right back to EB.

edit—i edit a lot apparently, so bad at foruming and that’ll pull more people off of EB tryin’ to get garrison back so you can time a nice golem rush on the north keep or something…

Are you challenged?
Have you even seen DH BL today? we wiped it once, went back to eb to recap our corner, pushed dh, started second rush, got hills, got garrison, was ready to start on bay and got called to an IoJ golem rush on our EB Keep.

Blood fued… lol grow up.

Rob.7624:

Bird Mist is once again returned to its rightful owner.

I’ll be online shortly to help with décor

NSP has shown its face to battle when called to arms this and last week.

I love you all.

MrFluffy.9307:

gladiator.5367:

nyckolag.2394:

Good fights all around today. Hopefully NSP wasn’t too surprised as I popped out from behind the back of Quentin Lake whilst you were holding it off a furious DH horde. I’d been hiding there since IoJ tried to do a sneaky after DH got that wall down; but the commander at the time didn’t want to upset you guys. After that I decided to have a little bit of fun and play with your siege a little – even running up to your lord’s room and seeing what the guys on the AC’s thought of my illusionary swordsman!

Oh yeah, and you guys should really be thankful that we brought the health of those DH omega golems down for you when they took our keep. It cost us a waypoint – but at least you guys didn’t lose yours! :P (Btw DH, I’d totally swear revenge, but sadly I have my last three exams the rest of this week, so I’m completely stressed about other, much less important stuff than wubwub. )

That was a bit of a surprise at QL. Probably one of my most favorite fights in WvW to date was at QL with DH and you guys. Also, that 3 way in SM. Man, not sure how we managed to take that. We’re good at taking, not so much at keeping.

we let you have it so DH would get pushed out, we waited on third floor for buff to go out then we took it from ya. Thanks for doing the work for us I guess Also NSP listen this match up isn’t gonna be any fun if you keep playing for 2nd the whole time. Hit darkhaven for once! You have more than enough people to initiate attacks rather than wait on the other server to start attacking so you can piggyback their progress

You might want to consider that what you are seeing is a small timeframe of a 24 hour cycle…
Me commanding all day yesterday (eu time)
Pic 1: Constantly pulled back to our corner from our progress on DH by IoJ “piggy-backing”
Pic 2: IoJ hit us while we are holding our side of DH EB towers (Veloka) , thank you for the bags.

Before everyone proposes their own server , hers a brief overview.
NSP- majority of the time undermanned, we do zerg when we need to but we have some of the most excellent small squads out there, this one for comic relief but check out his other videos http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQTdtVaZ7jM
HoD – from fighting them, i can tell you they have some very good small mans, great server, always good to fight against them
FC/ET- never fought them, but i can imagine they could use a few extra hands :P
DH seem to be running around with a big zerg, but i did meet quite a few roamers, one particular hammer warrior that ate my face and was very friendly about it, shared the build etc.
GoM- id try to avoid this one if you are looking for small mans
DR- have some very excellent-albeit at times forum warriorish small teams

so pick any of those

The number one thing that makes a good commander is the people that follow them. Make sure they are happy and you will be happy too.

Dont lead them to pointless causes, 90% of people do not want to siege for 3 hours to get a keep/tower.
Dont run in circles camp capping and farming wxp, albeit good sometimes, if prolonged can lead to boredom.
Do ask your followers if they are having fun and what they would like to do, if it possible, do it.
Be aware of the map and what is changing, you are no longer a foot soldier, your job is not to sit on a ram, nor is to aoe the walls, your job is to observe all 4 maps and make choices of where to go, and how to go about it.

If you get tunnel vision and get carried away chasing a group, you may have a bad time.
Nothing boosts morale like a good stack and ambush of forces trying to take your stuff and advancing into their territory.

TL:DR
your people are what makes you a good commander.

Noodica.5428:

Congratulations to the guy from [Worm] who danced on my body after rolling me with the rest of GoM in bluelake, i could tell it was a huge achievement

Rolled that entire party on my asura engi last night, 1v5 + some ac support from afar.

Debois Guilbert.6413:

Rob.7624:

Just standing in your stonemist guys.
Someone please help?

LOL be nice please.
Come get a picture with me. Been standing here watching DH run past for about 10mins.

I logged on this afternoon and NSP had nothing in EB. Next thing I know they’ve taken an upgraded SM. Impressive.

Ooops. And ty.

But seriously guys…rob is still inside your SM…

So we got on the map and i saw DH on inner of GoM EB keep, tried to ninja but got to late, felt like lending gom a hand and gettting back at DH a little since they are the strongest, went ant took aldons, for the 2nd time and built another shame treb.

After brief ceremony of song and dance about the holy shrine, we spotted some golems… many golems… many omega golems…

Very VERY fun fight you guys, that was awesome, thank you from all of NSP we really enjoyed it! was one of the funniest overkills i had ever seen haha!

And im a big fan of golems

And as a reward for distracting DH long enough for GoM to retake their keep, GoM are holding NSP hills when i go to sleep sad times

pastrynator.9652:

Well as we were taking NSP Hills this morning there happened to be bridge construction going on with no signs posted about holes. As I was only moments away from the Lord’s room I fell in one of these holes. I stayed to warn the NSPers of these holes when they took over but they murdered me instead.

Please fix your bridge!

happened to me before, I will get the bridge monkeys to patch it up asap, they promised me it wouldnt happen again

There are times though in the jp (taken from last week) when people attack unprovoked and this happens.

kurath.9406:

playable wvw already exists on 66% of other servers.

make me laugh when wagon servers complain about skill lag. You all piled into 1 server, what do you expect?
Yes its unfortunate, Yes they are working on it.

Tired of being a mindless zerg autoattacking and skill 1’ing? im sure that DR/NSP/HOD/ET/FC (and w/e low pop eu servers are there) will welcome you to their non-zerg, no-lag lovefest.

Until then. Enjoy the lag.

Zumi.6384:

So is tkitten JP the new unofficial dueling spot or something? I haven’t been there since they turned it into a separate instance…

EDIT: how does “the” + “EB” get put through the filter??

yup, come there for duels, its quite refreshing and allows ample opportunities to learn how to counter different classes

Sororita.3465:

Spets the MilkBandit.9031:

Ah dont take me too seriously, just petty XD
I generally hate all my enemies, except in JP, there i either duel or make it my job to kitten on those who camp it :P

JP eh? watch out for Apoc.

Already fought and beat apoc he was a very good sport about it.

Had some very good fights there, its almost my nightly routine after study before bed time hahah.

EDIT: added pic of a usual night in EB JP

Sororita.3465:

Spets the MilkBandit.9031:

As much as i generally hate GoM as my enemy, I am beginning to develop a crush on your zerker necro, looks like a tonne of fun XD

ok 2 things:

1. yay zerker necro!
2. why does everyone hate GoM =/ i guess we’re doing something right.

Ah dont take me too seriously, just petty XD
I generally hate all my enemies, except in JP, there i either duel or make it my job to kitten on those who camp it :P

Sororita.3465:

Tuluum.9638:

Hope you are still posting a ton of pics Sororita

0.o people remember me! I also do videos now.

1. no longer on my Norn Engineer, meet my Human Necro.
2. I do love my ACs in Duri.
3. Golem rushes, got to love em.

As much as i generally hate GoM as my enemy, I am beginning to develop a crush on your zerker necro, looks like a tonne of fun XD

RAIN.1238:

Spets the MilkBandit.9031:

RAIN.1238:

Was it worth it though? Take SM, we take your keeps. Well done Rina and SE for the work done on NSP’s BL keeps.

Keep up the good work DH!

was a good move on DH part, but the keeps were nearly paper afiak, tier 3 sm, with full supply. reset,well worth it. considering we took the keeps back almost immediately.
Knowing how GoM love SM, it will give them something to do for the time being.

Not sure if you noticed, but we did have the outmanned buff on both maps.

It was smooth of you guys and well played, definitely caught us off guard. But it didn’t do much, as soon as you came back for your keeps we took SM back. Accomplished slowing us down though. Wasn’t trying to bash or anything, it’s all for fun after all.

Indeed, i gave the order to strip sm of supplies and leave it, some folks stayed defending just for funsies, but unfortunately we do not have the needed coverage to hold SM, this was just a minor way of saying “Dont take our keep”

Good fights from all sides this matchup so far, im liking the lack of double teaming and the free for all most of the time, keeps things fresh

PS: I am also the ZoS asura Engi you often see in the JP, good duels from all sides so far, keep it up!

RAIN.1238:

Was it worth it though? Take SM, we take your keeps. Well done Rina and SE for the work done on NSP’s BL keeps.

Keep up the good work DH!

was a good move on DH part, but the keeps were nearly paper afiak, tier 3 sm, with full supply. reset,well worth it. considering we took the keeps back almost immediately.
Knowing how GoM love SM, it will give them something to do for the time being.

Not sure if you noticed, but we did have the outmanned buff on both maps.

Logged on this morning to have my coffee and so pre-study killing. Just as i came on DH took our EB keep and we only had like 4 defenders :/
Said kitten it, Called in the troops.
Result.

1) Took keep back and a little cherry on top.
2) From yesterdays battles. How do you lose a t3 aldons?

So no one (at least on nsp) can place any siege down besides golems. Being me, i couldn’t pass that up XD.

Logged in, gathered my beloved NSP WvW’ers, retook NSP BL, retook NSP corner of EB
Stopped a DR golem rush on veloka,
Took SM,
Nearly took Lowlands keep from GoM

Credit goes where credit is due, to the GoM defenders at lowlands keep, not the ones that were fodder for us to fill our coffers but to the ones who started mass repairing the inner gate when it was at 5-10%. Sadly we had a golem griefer who shall remain unnamed but everyone on NSP knows him already. Maybe with a few extra we coulda done it but overall very good defence, you deserve to keep that keep.

<3 NSP and miss leading charges, soon the exams will be done

Guys its clear what’s happening here

GoM are not winning because of an alliance with DR, they are not winning because of skill or population difference…

I believe we have uncovered their secret weapon.
BEHOLD! the REAL reason for GoM victory!
The majestic hover-trebs!

Sororita.3465:

Spets the MilkBandit.9031:

Lol GoM encountered resistance in EB (still we were outnumbered) and they went to BL to PVD our paper keeps (srly guys upgrade!), i hope you enjoyed my garrison surprise, you failures.

Spets the MilkBandit.9031:

Do not lump in NSP as a server based on actions of a few.

hehehehe….

muahaha you got me there XD
But it was the same guild tags that were in eb and suddenly went to BL as soon as they got resistance, all i want is some fights and not forever chase the huge zerg

Raf.1078:

Spets the MilkBandit.9031:

Lol GoM encountered resistance in EB (still we were outnumbered) and they went to BL to PVD our paper keeps (srly guys upgrade!), i hope you enjoyed my garrison surprise, you failures.

86,000 points behind GoM and still talkin smack.

When have you ever made an advance with relatively even numbers?
…
Dont worry ill wait

Lol GoM encountered resistance in EB (still we were outnumbered) and they went to BL to PVD our paper keeps (srly guys upgrade!), i hope you enjoyed my garrison surprise, you failures.

ScrubieSouce.3724:

Officially worried this idea will destroy wvw worse then the recent arrow cart buff did. I can only imagine how the lower tier servers feel about this.

I for one do not like just outnumbering my opponent to the point they have no fight in them. Nor do i like being the one outnumbered so heavily.

I think this is going to backfire and cause more people to leave game then its going to make happy.

The server imbalance wouldnt have happened in the first place if people didnt pile into the “meta” wvw servers to win in the first place.
I am a t7 player and can see us getting decimated in the near future with the number differences between us and t6/5.

The only* way to fix wvw is to allow yet again free transfers ( for a limited time) so perhaps guilds in the higher tiers can transfer down without having to spend 60g/player which is alot in wvw terms

Sororita.3465:

Yawn, NSP mad about being third so they trash other peoples fun, not anything new. Maybe if they spent more time in WvW and less time in GoM LA they might be better, PPT is super serious. =p

Do not lump in NSP as a server based on actions of a few.

yeah the little time i get to play now during exams Im on my new engineer learning the curves, had several duels with GoM players (mostly thieves) and a couple of DR, tickles me though when 6 or so people mow me down the proceed to jump on my corpse… gg

Nordic Natedog.4360:

Lots of complaining about GoM’s BL. You all realize it makes it next to impossible for us to defend lake and briar given we are DCing as well. I was fighting 5 guys for briar the other day, just to DC. By the time I logged back in and ran to briar, the gate was done. So much for the siege I put up to defend the tower.

Is it happening? Yes and it is effecting everyone, not just attackers. Nothing beats spending plenty of gold each day to upgrade things, just to run into a camp to defend it and lag out. And those that know me know that I can hold a camp pretty well.

Dont think anyone was arguing about it not affecting GoM defenders also, as we have heard statements from other GoM players about lag issues too.
The issue with GoM BL atm is its lags and disconnects everyone. Im sure you can appreciate its much harder to attack with constant disconnects than to defend.

I really hope that all the talk last week from DR when NSP and DR were hitting gom about not playing for seconds a great matchup was not just empty words, and the current cherry picking of an already undermanned NSP is just a result of GoM BL lag issues.

BlazeQ.1095:

Ok watching the live map on Millenium is going to drive me nuts. Obviously NSP has no one in our borderlands.

yeah :/ we were there earlier, defended against 5 gom golem rushes on hills, had a nice duel with 1 gom asura ele on my asura engineer, cheers for that! but alas cannot play all day

covenn.7165:

frostshade.3617:

You really need to meet tele her staff ele can 1v30 all these eles q.qing jus like people say engis are bad or necros are bad just can’t do anything but faceroll

Staff ele’s are free points if I catch them alone.

YEah, they are viable in a zerg though.

staff eles do just fine outside zergs also…
every class has the option to go into condition with meh survivability
burst with no survivability
survivability with meh damage
and anywhere in between… there are many many ways to play each class and each class has the potential to be OP if played correctly, dont wanna be D/D then dont… but know what you are trading off, you cant have super damage/super mobility/super survivability/super condi dmg…

In other news: vengence=still get a lootbag and wxp when the warrior dies even if he makes it to the portal
mist form through portal=kitten you cant have any xp for besting me

Thieves and warriors just recieved an ability to steal boons and do upto 30% extra damage on boon guardians… as a guardian’s primary role is support, thats pretty much all guardians…

Roo Stercogburn.9671:

frostshade.3617:

covenn.7165:

Maybe if ele’s weren’t do easy to down, they wouldn’t need that ability. ANET has already been doing heavy handed modifications to them since beta and having been taking away the things they gave them to compensate for having the lowest armor/health pool combination in the game.

Your not playing ele right if your easy to down.. eles are second hardest class to kill after bunker engi

Certain builds possibly. Not everyone plays cookie cutter kitten win.

so you’re telling me you’re running a crap build and are complaining about it? All classes can have terrible builds. get good and design a build that doesnt make you die fast.

frostshade.3617:

covenn.7165:

Maybe if ele’s weren’t do easy to down, they wouldn’t need that ability. ANET has already been doing heavy handed modifications to them since beta and having been taking away the things they gave them to compensate for having the lowest armor/health pool combination in the game.

Your not playing ele right if your easy to down.. eles are second hardest class to kill after bunker engi

We should get tele to teach them the art of 1v30

Jesus kitten christ…
I thought we were done with this when we sent paxa to t8?
Now everyone please stfu and argue about you kittenz ingame.
Most of us were enjoying the matchup thread with friendly cross fire before this

NSP!
I am a eurotime commander on NSP, we are not outmanned buffwise but can use extra hands as our EU pop is relatively low compared to our current winning opponent GoM
WvW community on NSP are very dedicated commanders and players, and just because we are commanders does not mean we dont like to follow other commanders from time to time.
All NSP commanders NA and EU are good friends and multiple guilds always there to help each other out, what we dont need is somone telling us how to play, what we do need is more commanders on multiple maps who can read map situations andf inform other commanders of whats going on.
General rule is, if you need us we will come and help. We are mainly defensive with our current number during EU times, but working on fixing that You can be a part of that solution if you would like to be.
I am currently ona week hiatus for my exams but will be back this weekend if you still havent chosen by then contact me in game.
NSP players have faced many hardships and coverage issues, but they are very resilient folk and very appriciative of good commanders who can keep morale up.
We are currently in a very even matchup with DR/NSP/GoM. I would recommend either DR or NSP, GoM already have a superior EU coverage

Magical Sky Daddy.7540:

I’d say go to Blackgate or Dragonbrand… Those two seem to be the most lacking for EU.

Did the OP not specify they dont want to be in t1/t2?… Read original post before posting.

RiverRat.1045:

gladiator.5367:

BlazeQ.1095:

GoM has something that irritates the crap out of many NPS guilds. Its call TCMM. We resent they way they treated our server just before they left. Many will actively try to hunt them down. And most of the organized guilds consider them KOS.
(/snip)

Just the rambling thoughts of a Mad Char who drinks to much beer. Not an official statement from NSP or Anyone else.

This is about as official as you can get without being offical. We were in DR’s BL either last night or the night before (memory is foggy), outmanned, and just working on both DR and GoM. Then we saw TCMM in passing, Golem rushing (no surprise). Call went out in passing in map chat about the comedy of the situation and everyone stopped what they were doing and went to wipe them. It wasn’t because it was strategically sound, but it was just because it was TCMM. The comment was made that logic goes out the window when we see them.

Score update for those who like them:
GoM: 144,263, +245
DR: 139,796, +245
NSP: 133,587, +205

that logic isnt helping you win looks like its actaully making you lose. so keep using that logic and GOM will keep beating you ( actaully keep using it and youll end up in t8 and we can have HOD back)

the man clearly said logic goes out the window when they see TCMM, please learn to read.
Glad TCMM found their place again. Their vocal rep was quite the number back on NSP,
Also please check the server ranking, all 3 servers are INCREDIBLY close in server ranks, none of us will be going to t8 anytime soon.

Halfway through my exam week… i shall return soon my friends.

DR/NSP/GoM currently have a balanced matchup
join any of those! DR and NSP are less zergy than GoM but even GoM arent that bad

Hickeroar.9734:

Aneu.1748:

Hickeroar.9734:

Spets the MilkBandit.9031:

zergs are whats breaking the game… not the siege.

I keep seeing people complain about zergs…but no one has a good reason why they’re bad.

I love running in small groups and I love running in zergs. They’re both valid, and very fun, ways to play the game.

If zergs were ever affected to the point of being non-viable, people would leave the WvW game in droves. Why? Because zergs are fun and important to the process.

Lag.

Is that really the only objection? They already said they’re working on addressing this.

It’s all server lag anyway. Too much going on for the servers to keep up with.

please see my rationale above, its more to do with player contribution rather than lag(albeit lag does not help)
also let me clarify i dont consider a 20-30 man guild group a zerg (if they are organised and have a plan)
But from my brief visit to t1 i have seen a ???? numbers zerg facebash a reinforced gate down from 35%… tell me that should be a viable strategy

kurath.9406:

Spets the MilkBandit.9031:

Oh you mean like GoM and HoD constantly playing for seconds, and then combining their WvW guilds AFTER the organised** teamup fiasco backfired and sent pretty much both server into t8?

This post is stupid on many levels.

Firstly, GoM and HoD never played for seconds in our matchup, nor did they ‘team’ up for anymore than a couple of hours.

Secondly, even if it did happen, ‘teaming up’ and ‘playing for second’ are mutually exclusive concepts.

Thirdly, in the five weeks of our matchup, GoM and HoD won two weeks and NSP only won one, so even if we were playing for second we were so terrible at it that NSP somehow ended up second 4 weeks out of 5. GoM and HoD playing for second would ensure NSPs victory, GoM and HoD teaming up would ensure NSP being in third, both basically the opposite of what actually happened.

Fourthly, HoD and GoM in no way combined WvW guilds. One single guild leader made a conscious decision on their own to transfer off, and did not even take their entire guild with them and did not combine with any GoM guild.

Finally, both the servers being sent to T8 wouldn’t be attributed to that either. GoM dropped because of the sudden rating shift and that they were ‘busy’ with other things (which they bounced back from) and HoD dropped because said above guild had already stopped contributing, removing a chunk of our playerbase.

Similar to what Lepew said about their experience in T6.
HoD were winning that week against NSP (if memory does not fail but it might) and GoM recieved a transfer of a HoD commander whom coordinated the said fiasco (refer to calisto’s SS above), so yes GoM were ot attacking the leading server and camping NSP’s spawn to get seconds from their big bro (right after hod got more numbers and started winning, not sure was it the free transfers or just more server participation)

And yes the incident lasted a few hours because of a huge outrage on behalf of noble HoD and GoM players whom themselves said on the forums they were ashamed of their servers wrongdoings.

Correct me if im wrong, but I was under impression that a few guilds transferred to GoM, TCMM from NSP (before the drop to t8) , WvW from HoD (after telling their server it will all be okay lets just sit back until big bad SF move up, but they realised they would drop to t8 and transferred that same week) and i could be wrong, this is not bashing but i was under impression that 2 more smaller guilds (smaller than wvw whom i think are quite large wvw orientated guild) also went to GoM. Because you guys did not have such a high EU coverage at those hours when we had the HoD/NSP/GoM mixup, the only ones i remember seeing then were HH.

Regardless GoM have been better sports this matchup with less QQ/Flaming
My post was a reaction to whomever it was suggesting that DR and NSP are teaming up and that its what it takes to beat GoM

My statement of merging was perhaps unclear, what i mean by merging is a large HoD guild(s) going to GoM, you said it yourself HoD started to nose dive when WvW and friends stopped playing, and took a big chunk of your wvw population. Hence my term for merging.

The point being GoM really dont have a leg to stand on regarding teaming up.

Show me a picture of DR and NSP standing side by side Spawn camping GoM.

Lets keep this as entertaining and QQ-free with friendly trolling as it has been last week please

Handin.4032:

Spets the MilkBandit.9031:

zergs are whats breaking the game… not the siege.

I still have yet to see how zergs are breaking the game. In every large-scale PvP game I’ve played in (not many mind you), there have ALWAYS been ‘zergs’. And what people call ‘zergs’ can be totally different. Is a well coordinate guild group of 50 a zerg? if so, then you’re saying that guild groups are breaking the game, and that grouping as a large guild should be punished. Is a group of 50 coordinate pugs a zerg? If so, then you’re saying communication is breaking the game. Is a group of 50 uncoordinate people a zerg? Well…you should be able to smash them to bits since they’re not coordinating! A well-coordinated 20 man group can take on twice its numbers if their opponents are well coordinated.

Siege adds, if anything, more for small groups to do. A few people on AC’s above a gate can stop a huge group from taking a keep (this was true even BEFORE the update). “Zergs” are nothing more than large groups of people, which is what you will expect in large scale warfare. I don’t understand what people were expecting in WORLD vs WORLD…a bunch of 5-10 man squads running around?

This isn’t antagonistic, but I have yet to see a good clear explaination of this, and what people are defining as a zerg, and how that is killing the game. (Note, I prefer doing small group ninja stuff, but if I get stomped by a 40 man group, then I get stomped, and I come back)

5 people hit you with skill #1 , you heal and fight back.
50 people hit you with skill #1, you die, respawn and are forced to stay within the larger group in order to absorb the damage and survive=no freedom of play

10 man group loses 5 players in a fight= 50% less effective, they mourn and miss their brethren
50 man group loses 5 players = meh?

This is my personal opinion and some people prefer to stay in large numbers and automash skill 1 +occasional heal and stability. But the players personal contribution loses its value and that kinda ruins the fun for me.

zergs are whats breaking the game… not the siege.