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Mags, if you want open field come EB. Last night you guys were the ones turtling with arrow carts all night even though your zerg was scary as hell. Dont blame Kain BL and Mag BL for not fighting, their priority is to hold what they can with what numbers they have and they did a great job.
FBA you guys are heroes giving Mag such a hard time last night, big props! Also everyone defending KainBL, I cant believe you held onto our towers so well. Sick job!
At least on reset night, Kain doesn’t even need WM, RISE, CO xD
Almost none of the organized guild in mag go to eb, we hate it. It’s a zerg fest wherever you go. You guys ran into 80 of us in eb? well, its eb what do you expect? And to defending east keep with arrow carts and a few other pieces of siege, you did get the patch notes for arrow carts right? also, you guys called for RE to come in and help you out a few times easily outnumbering our guys on our own bl to help you defend so no it wasnt just siege and a few people it was more than that. You also took east keep becaue the majority of our player hadn’t even gotten into our bl by the time you got to inner, and there were only about 10-20 of us there after you went to inner. After a little while we had a little bit more people but had to make the decision to leave east keep since it had no supply and yaks was getting awful close to our garrison. Oh, and nice try taking Garrison (thats what happens when we actually have people defending).
I wasn’t on MagBL (not sure why you assumed that lol), I was on EB fighting your guild.
Mags, if you want open field come EB. Last night you guys were the ones turtling with arrow carts all night even though your zerg was scary as hell. Dont blame Kain BL and Mag BL for not fighting, their priority is to hold what they can with what numbers they have and they did a great job.
FBA you guys are heroes giving Mag such a hard time last night, big props! Also everyone defending KainBL, I cant believe you held onto our towers so well. Sick job!
At least on reset night, Kain doesn’t even need WM, RISE, CO xD
I knew it, Koreans cannot resist kart rider.
I meant what I said…look at the maps…tc/fa barely on their own maps…but almost entire servers on ours.
… I don’t even…..
Have you ever even played gw2? Or played a reset night?
Trust me… they are on each other’s maps.
“Whatever makes you feel better, I suppose. Our 5 man wipes anything less than 30 people. If you’re running more than 30 people, the simple fact that you’re sticking as a huge ball like that is a time sink on its own.”
What does a 5 man SPvP team accomplish in WvW anyway?, I mean seriously, besides supply camps and harrasing solo roamers…
They pretty much harass stragglers and pug zergs. They are pretty effective against unorganised groups that aren’t too big, but I feel like most of the zergs in this tier are too big for them to be able to do anything to.
I dunno. I roamed with 4 of them the other night and we were taking on zergs composed of a lot of the same guild tags. Other than that smashing other evenly sized groups that happened to cross our path. It was pretty impressive.
Yeh, I may be wrong but I was under the impression they were a ‘zerg buster’ squad.
Fights where they are 10vs10-20 they are definitely extremely good at, but I have yet to see them do anything to a decent 25/30 man zerg. Would love to be proved wrong though.
As a havok group though they are definitely top tier.
“Whatever makes you feel better, I suppose. Our 5 man wipes anything less than 30 people. If you’re running more than 30 people, the simple fact that you’re sticking as a huge ball like that is a time sink on its own.”
What does a 5 man SPvP team accomplish in WvW anyway?, I mean seriously, besides supply camps and harrasing solo roamers…
They pretty much harass stragglers and pug zergs. They are pretty effective against unorganised groups that aren’t too big, but I feel like most of the zergs in this tier are too big for them to be able to do anything to.
Uploaded highlights of tonight, was really fun haha
SOOOOOOO GOOOOOOOOOD
Kain officially best T2 community
Now FA and TC, stfu
Remember this game is for fun, you guys are ruining T2 atm, just ignore any posts that make you feel angry.
Also Protip:
If you are about to post anything negative, don’t. Sleep on it, then in the morning reflect on how stupid you would have been to post a page of whine about an internet game.
TC and FA are like neighbours that offended each other at a party a while ago and are still passive aggressive to each other. You look like idiots to the rest of us, just get over it already.
Sure is T1 in here…..
Bad TC that is our hills! :O We don’t take kindly to your 60 man zerg trying to take our hills
GET OFF OUR LAND :P Good push though guys!
Now calm down skeeter, they ain’t hurting nobody….
Who is looking forward to starting the day with a fully upgraded TC hills on their BL!?!?!?!? Must have been some serious yak protecting going on for that to happen. TC roleplay too stronk!!
And to any FA that think TC are recruiting so KN will fight FA – Our love is too strong not to leave each other alone. If Kain isn’t winning then we are making kitten sure TC aren’t either! It is a strange kind of love.
Hey BG,
Just a friendly Kain wishing you all the best. T1 sounds tough but I know you guys got what it takes to stick it out.
And remember our good old T2 thread whenever it gets heated in here. (You were meant to bring balance to the T1 server trolls, not join them!)
<3
Jang Gun left WM to persue a career in K-pop is what I heard…
Oof. That makes me sad. I really adored Kaineng (still do). I wish you folks would stick it out and just push through. One week’s loss means nothing in the overall scheme of things. You guys have been stellar opponents on both the battlefield and wonderful on the forums.
Hehe, I was only poking fun at the CO post about the server being over. I love T2 (win or lose) and I think the whole server does too <3
and lol Whitebeard, we only do the giant worm sometimes….
commemorate Kaineng
10/10
And as the old saying goes, it isn’t over until a commemorative cat poster is produced.
But yes… unfortunately one week of loss was too much for our bandwagon server, and so sadly it all has to come to an end.
Meow are going to Maguuma
WM are going to Eredon Terrace
RISE transferring to TC to become an RP guild
CO are all travelling to Europe and joining Vizunah Square
RE return to Darkhaven to become PvE only
SOS going back to Tera Online
CNB staying on Kaineng
Please wish everyone the best, one day maybe we will be able to put the shame of last week’s loss behind us.
I missed last week, just wanted to say gj to TC for a first place finish. Definitely livens T2 up a bit to have real competition for first place.
T2 is just so cool. Can’t wait to jump in again.
Its because the server have different reasons for playing atm.
TC are excited they might get first place and are playing for points.
Kain and FA are playing to rank up WvW exp, and are just looking for the best way to farm exp (which is probably by chasing TC zergs).
Don’t know why PiNK are getting all the heat, its mostly other guilds running with a couple of PiNK that are running, but I don’t blame them.
This morning I was getting kind of tired of certain guilds repeatedly abusing the ‘ress a dead mesmer through the gate’ strategy.
I had thought this was going to be fixed this update, but apparently it hasn’t been…
I’d like to know from the other servers whether this is frowned upon? I know it certainly is in Kain.
Either way, I will keep amassing screenshots of the guilds that abuse this, and one day when I’m in a bad enough mood, I’ll expose you for the scum you are xD
I wont offer an opinion on JQ or SoR since you are familiar enough with them from T1.
BG – Cool server with great Oceanic/SEA guilds. If T1 is what you want again, I can only offer good things to say about BG.
Kain – My server (so obviously biased). I still think Kain has great potential. We have only been together as a server for a relatively short amount of time and only just finalized getting everyone onto the same communications server. Now we are starting to improve in terms of co-ordination and teamwork, which would be an ideal time for a new guild to come and join in and get to have their say in how we move forward with WvW in Kain. If you want a fresh start on a server that is still rapidly improving itself, choose Kain.
I’d also say the opportunity to work with WM should not be taken lightly, those guys have helped improve a lot of the people and guilds on this server drastically and as a Kain original I can safely say they changed the whole ethos of the server to one hungry for highly organised battle. Some of the best fun i have is getting to run with Jang in EB when my guild isn’t out in force, and since he is on like 15 hours a day, you can get infinite lootbags at any time of day on Kain.
WM, Meow and KoR are probably the main guilds you would be working with, and TC and FA will testify, those guys know how to WvW.
FA – Unfortunately don’t have a strong SEA. It would be an uphill battle for very little reward/appreciation, but a challenge might be what you are looking for and you would be testing yourself against WM (could be either depressing or rewarding).
TC – Again slightly lacking in this timezone, but a great server with a solid community. You would definitely feel appreciated on TC, and they would all be super nice.
Hope my somewhat biased opinions help a little :P
GL on whichever server you choose.
oh man if TSym joined us…. that would be too crazy. A big NA guild with that much experience and skill would make such a difference…
If this happens I’d be so pumped xD
NOOOOO, FA on EB, why you have to go aggro on SM? We were sharing TC’s points nicely, then you had to go and ruin it all by backstabbing us
Still EB was great tonight, hours of non stop bouncing between SM, Outlook and spawn defending everything. TC must have been draining a whole lot of supply from their own BL to be able to throw down golems/trebs/rams/catas constantly in EB without a single camp!
I like that in T2 the fight is still very much alive on thursday. You dont really get that in any lower a tier.
Which server did [AoN] join?
We joined FA.
Hey, I saw you guys on Kain BL today boldly rushing into PiNK’s 40 man zerg with about 12 people. At first I laughed, but each time you ran back in I gained a more respect for you. Good on you for playing for the fight and not backing down from impossible odds! Hope you enjoy T2!
From my point of view we (kain) are just focusing on whatever is easiest. Looks like FA is outmanned on EB? Time to flip their keep. TC busy on their own BL? Lets go flip theirs then.
For the sake of T2, TC and FA will eventually have to put their rivalry aside. This matchup would be really close if it was truly a 3-way, but with you two trying to spoil each others BL’s each night Kain NA is getting more points than we should. Also there hasn’t been a decent effort to take and hold SM in days. Its been flipped a couple of times, but its wierd that it has been 98% green straight from reset night.
The only thing i don’t like about TC is how much they abuse perma stealth and mesmers to ninja keeps/SMC. On reset night it happened at least twice, where they would port their whole zerg straight into SMC and take it in seconds.
I’m sure organising something like that takes skill to pull off, but it feels so cheap and doesn’t make me think very highly of TC at all (although I may be jaded from the amount of time I spend chasing kitten thieves in SMC).
Apart from that great matchup as usual. FA even started dropping some rares for me!
Haha, this is one of my favorite things about TC. I’ve run a couple stealth “missions” as a mesmer with duel thieves keeping us invisible. It’s very tense, and very fun.
I wouldn’t call it “cheap,” simply because it takes a significant amount of skill to pull of. It’s very mobile (often running RIGHT by enemies multiple times without their knowing), and requires heavy coordination between the group, as well as continual, well timed ability usage to keep the group stealthed. If you can keep a group of three running around and stealthed for 5 minutes or more…you deserve that piece of property, imho. And some people go for a lot longer than five minutes.
It’s certainly a lot more impressive than bashing a door down with a golem and taking something with a zerg…
Guess I disagree. At least golems allow you a certain amount of time to respond and are a significant supply invesment. Portalling through a wall to kill the keep lord 30v1 seems less impressive to me than busting your way through with seige.
The only thing i don’t like about TC is how much they abuse perma stealth and mesmers to ninja keeps/SMC. On reset night it happened at least twice, where they would port their whole zerg straight into SMC and take it in seconds.
I’m sure organising something like that takes skill to pull off, but it feels so cheap and doesn’t make me think very highly of TC at all (although I may be jaded from the amount of time I spend chasing kitten thieves in SMC).
Apart from that great matchup as usual. FA even started dropping some rares for me!
Weekly recap video for this match up is available.
Yup, I’m gonna need the song list for that.
Nice vid.
Hohoho, TC just keep coming back for more. I’m loving it.
Shout out to TSL, great guild that showed a lot of heart tonight defending Hills on KNBL. You guys sunk about 8 of our golems at the most ridiculously sieged up keep I have ever seen, and no matter the outcomes of the fights, you always came back with more people than before. Very impressed.
We’ve gone 8 pages without any serious arguments between FA and TC. Lets not start now.
Although the RET guy calling out PiNK on their numbers almost made me choke on my coffee… pot calling kettle black etc etc
Overall I’ve been really impressed by TC’s game. They dont have the numbers of Kain or FA and since they dont have any strong coverage I’m kind of scratching my head as to how they are staying in contention for 2nd. I certainly expected them to be solidly 3rd at the start of this week. I imagine PiNK must be putting in a lot of effort to help carry the server.
Nooo!!! I like T2. I agree that Kain joining with another server to become a T1 force might be a good idea in the future, but only once server pops die down to a reasonable level, culling and lag is fixed, and once T1 becomes as nice a community as T2.
Until then I think everyone is happy where we are currently. We will get to have a trip into T1 every so often and experience how brutal the coverage gap is, and to remind us that we are a T2 server now, unless something drastic changes.
To the guys talking about JQ collapsing… that’s not gonna happen. BG worked really hard last week to stay close to JQ and once the weeks roll by BG will have to take it a bit easier and will find their natural place as rank #2. I’d say guilds on BG are more likely to look for a new home in a months time, at least SoR will be able to drop down to T2 every so often and regain some morale. BG are in for a looooooong period of losing to JQ over and over. I expect most guilds will be fine, but there are always some that can’t take losing for a long period of time.
Kaineng needs to stop slacking off or we won’t get into T2!
No time for breaks!
b-b-b-b-b-but its PvE Thursday…
And we dont wanna win too much otherwise we’d be in T1…. We really don’t wanna go to T1!
RET and BT. You guys are class guilds, but boy do you have some kittenposters.
You should probably talk to them so they don’t ruin your otherwise good names.
I wonder if Kain and TC joined together, would we be able to fight BG and JQ in T1?
I think it would be kind of close. Maybe an idea for the distant future if T2 ever gets really boring.
T2 is really fun at the moment though. Can’t wait to fight you again TC! Most of all I’m hoping TC puts up a fight during NA prime time. We need somebody to make FA scared of committing everything to our Borderland each night. At the moment nobody really worries about SoS.
Gogo TC, you only need 4 more points to get back into T2 for next week and have a really fun matchup! (we dont want SoS being a 3rd wheel again)
Fight hard, we’ll see you soon!
Lot of love,
Kaineng
Not sure why any server would want to move into T1. It’s a kittenfest of tears and burnout up there.
100% agree.
T2 is (or will soon be) far superior to every other tier.
1. You get great fights because of high populations, but you don’t get any headaches with queues.
2. The servers you play will have big strong, competitive guilds for everyone that likes the huge zerg vs zerg battles, but still opportunities for groups of 5-10 to have an impact in emptier areas.
3. The matchup threads are cleaner because everyone isn’t stressed 24/7 about how much they need to be winning by to move up a tier (because nobody really wants to).
4. The actual matchups will soon be very balanced, FA and Kain have strong timezones at opposite times and TC will be able to put up a better fight than SoS, which should mean the results each week will be different depending on who wants it more each week. (Also a surprise visit from SoR at some point might be pretty fun).
Having said all that, the huge downside is that T2 servers are a prime spot for guilds looking for T1 glory to join. I just hope we get a little bit of T2 stability before the next T1 titanic starts to sink.
SoS will fall next week to at least T3, they have lost so many guilds and are constantly hurting on their own borderland.
I hope SoR doesn’t crumble but being the small man between BG and JQ in a very static tier will be tough. I hope they don’t go the same way as SoS.
FA should be a T2 mainstay, their NA has gotten really strong with the recent transfers, easily comparable to the kind of NA BG was putting up after the SoS guilds joined. They have people in all maps all the time and enough people to wipe 20 times and still keep coming.
Honestly TC is going to have to make some ground on FA during oceanic/SEA to do well in T2 now. However FA/Kain/TC should be the standard T2 now, which I am pretty happy with so long as FA learns to behave on forums.
I’d really rather Kain didnt swap with SoR in T1. T2 is a real challenge for the numbers we have and in T1 WM wont be able to rock the map in their timezone.
I think every server could say the other is full of wipable pugs, because the reality is that every top guild on each server will regard the other server as easily wipable. It’s tempting to say ‘lol we wiped ur forces 8 times in one night’, but if you are on any kind of organised guild then that is what should be happening.
What speaks more to a server or guild’s class is the ability not to gloat on the forums afterwards. And remember FA, this is a T2 thread, if you want to say something bad about another server you need to sandwich it between 2 compliments and make them read between the lines.
THIS IS THE PASSIVE AGRESSIVE TIER!
I’m sure ZN will have a great time on FA, but why join a server that already has a stacked NA? A server like Kaineng (hint hint) would benefit waaaay more from one more NA guild. NA timezone is easily FA’s strongest and they proved it last night instantly queueing any map they pleased with so many players it crashed 0.o
Either way, FA will rock this matchup every NA prime time, they just have so many guilds online and enough numbers to pull off really crazy (and pretty darn clever) tactics, while also holding their own ground. To be quite honest I dont think I’ve played any NA force that felt quite so stacked in T2.
These fights are still awesome though, I’m kinda looking forward to SoS being replaced by a guild that could do better in this tier. It feels very 1v1 between FA and Kain at the moment.
Kain NA is wierd at the moment. We dont seem to have any trouble taking SM or whatever keeps we want, but then we go off and get in a stupid fight with SoS over a tower or something and FA just walks into a free keep.
FA is playing it properly at the moment, taking key points from Kain when the opportunity arrises and dropping a tonne of seige to make it impossible to take back.
This is all good though, another opportunity for Kain to learn how to play against a more turtly server. BG/Kain/TC was all about the open field battles/zerg v zerg and we are clearly a bit out of practise at the simple art of defending our own keeps.I had a chuckle to myself when the Kain zerg crushed our 6 man assault on SM and retaliated by taking an unmanned Wild Creek, while FA took advantage of this and walked into SM and took it.
Yeh thats exactly it ^^
Losing stuff for no good reason at all
FA’s EU is scary though, like playing BG all over again. Kain badly needs some EU numbers.
Kain NA is wierd at the moment. We dont seem to have any trouble taking SM or whatever keeps we want, but then we go off and get in a stupid fight with SoS over a tower or something and FA just walks into a free keep.
FA is playing it properly at the moment, taking key points from Kain when the opportunity arrises and dropping a tonne of seige to make it impossible to take back.
This is all good though, another opportunity for Kain to learn how to play against a more turtly server. BG/Kain/TC was all about the open field battles/zerg v zerg and we are clearly a bit out of practise at the simple art of defending our own keeps.
Glad to see FA are bringing it. This matchup more than any seems to be all about clawing tooth and nail for the points. Although the competition doesn’t seem as strong as last week in terms of quality of opponents, the strategic rushes and crazy meat grinder setups are making this a really difficult matchup.
Wouldnt be surprised to see Kain knocked to second by FA if this keeps up.
The state of SoS is so weird right now.
Literally a good third of our WvW force is now gone. Vast majority of fighters are all disorganized militia who have little idea what they’re doing. A lot of people are disheartened, and we have several people spamming doomsday like crap in map chat about how this server is about to plunge into T6 anytime now.
Really hope we can pull ourselves together again. I feel like T2 could be extremely fun if we can rally our forces together after a rough few weeks and all the fairweather troopers jumping ship.
From what I saw today on EB, you have plenty of people, but nobody leading them. Got to wipe way more people than we should have been allowed to because the SoS zerg was running more like a snake along the map rather than a ball. You are holding your own fine though, you definitely have enough to man keeps etc.
YEY! Welcome SoS and FA to T2
I literally have no idea how this matchup will go. FA’s performance in T3 definately makes them look scary, and SoS being former T1! … well I’ve never played in T1, but I think you have to be pretty serious to hang up there with JQ. I just hope we have some great fights, and hopefully it will be a close and exciting matchup!!
;_;
Its sad that we are all losing each other to different tiers. I could have handled losing just one server this week, but both BG and TC at the same time… ;_;
I’m sure it will be the best for everyone. BG get to prove their server is T1 (we all knew it was T1 before the transfers but now it’s definate) and TC get to be top dogs on a tier for a week or two, something they thoroughly deserve. You should have good fun with DB, they were some of the nicest people we played on the way up and they managed to keep quite civil even under trying circumstances (aka WM capping everything). On the other hand, best of luck with maguuma.
One day in the distant future we will be in the same tier again, and the warm memories will all come flooding back.
gl and hf all
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Noones throwing anything, dont be childish.
When a match that is clearly been decided goes into the final 2 days most of the players take a break or go light, unless that server still has something to fight for. I
Its exaggerated even more the week before a tier flip, so everyone will be good to go for the long haul on reset night.
Any gains TC might see during this time will be mirrored by FA in t2
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Whats with the PR relations from a different server? At least two kaineng posted here and in other threads that they’re not playing as hard to help BG go to t2. No one is mad, I was just correcting a guy who said that no one is throwing. Kaineng posters seem to think they themselves are throwing, so why don’t you?Kinda overgeneralizing don’t you think so? That’s like saying all of maguuma threw the match to be in t4 with ehmry bay. :p
A significant portion of Mag did. Kaineng is being as open about it as we were in our t3 thread. There’s no need for all of a server to throw for it to work.
Well WM definately isn’t throwing, neither is RE, we are just completing more of the new content and not spending that much time in WvW. We even tried for SM today, although trying for SM with an outmanned buff is never a good idea xD
I want TC to stay because honestly they deserve to be T2. They just got a bit unlucky this tier being sandwiched between BG and Kain for the first two weeks but with BG gone I think they will be perfectly able to hold their own here.
We’ve already mentioned earlier in the week that clearly some Kains are taking a break for various reasons. Logistically I think it started off to let BG move up, not keep TC. It could end up helping to keep TC in T2 but I don’t believe it was intentional.
What’s the reasoning behind letting us move up? Just curious.
Not sure tbh, I think BG took its toll on our militia though and lots of BLs were starting to feel empty, so combined with the new content it is a good week to have a rest and prepare for next week. I know it’s kinda bad form, but a new matchup always feel more exciting and I think a lot of people are looking towards next week, as are a lot of you
Just going to weigh in on all the positive opinions on TC.
If you have a guild that is looking for a home where the fights are tough but the community is loving then TC should be your pick. They have the best community and sitting around T2 is the ideal location for the best of WvW without all the negatives.
I hope TC becomes a T2 mainstay to have many more fights with Kain
Yeh a few days ago it wasn’t so clear cut and SoS weren’t doing that bad, now BG are definitely going up. I hope they put some hurt on JQ and hopefully we stabilise at the top of Tier 2 and start working our way up to take SoR’s spot. I definitely think we could take the 3rd spot in T1 pretty easily, but staying there with no EU presence would be hard… WHICH LEADS BACK TO OUR RECRUITMENT THREAD.
Successfully re-railed.
Letting BG move up a tier, also guild missions, and helping TC stay in T2. Its pretty much a win for everyone if we arent playing this week. We get a nice rest from putting in too many WvW hours, get to farm some new loot and do the new content, and hopefully we have a better matchup next week.
Don’t worry FA, we will bring it next week
Edit: That came across badly like we are giving up, just want to make it a bit clear that nothing official has been said and most of Kain still fighting, just a lot of the guilds are taking a small break. I think the main reason is to let BG get up. They have new additions almost the size of our server so facing them for one more week wouldn’t really do anything.
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Ahhhh crazy awesome fights just now between RE and HB/LotD/RIOT on TCBL
I hope someone recorded them! The last one especially was great, I thought it was gonna go a different way about 4 times, dunno how many times we are gonna fall for the ‘HB using pugs as bait’ trap. It works every time ^^
Kinda sad we had to leave but our guild missions came up
Sorry about that, but we only had 11 HBs, 1 RK + a few others following us on TS, so we had to even the fight somehow, as you were to strong to fight head on with our numbers.
The zone died after you left, as it has been most of the week. You guys bring a great fight, I only wish we could have clashed some more before the matchup ended.
I’m definately gonna miss HB, you forced us raise our game considerably and I honestly think we are 2 times better than we were 3 weeks ago. I’ve never played SoS since I’ve been on Kaineng only, but I hope they still have some guilds left that can hit as hard as you do.
I don’t think getting portal bombed by any other guild will feel quite the same though
Ahhhh crazy awesome fights just now between RE and HB/LotD/RIOT on TCBL
I hope someone recorded them! The last one especially was great, I thought it was gonna go a different way about 4 times, dunno how many times we are gonna fall for the ‘HB using pugs as bait’ trap. It works every time ^^
Kinda sad we had to leave but our guild missions came up