Guild Wars 2

Littlefeather.8623:

You may be takling about another night, RE doesnt loose against evenly manned fights, atleast not open feild fights. Not even SoR would fight us without Arrow Carts in the open field. Not trying to sound kitteny, but I havent seen a FA Zerg during primetime with merely 35 people in it. RE wipes, FA has wiped us but I have yet to see a WvW guild that can wipe RE as a guild with even numbers. To back it up have any FA guild whisper Ethersin for a friendly GvG with even numbers.

kitten that paragraph made me cringe.
I thought we weren’t this big headed…
Also D|ERP are gonna find this post eventually and split their sides laughing.
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In other news, I hope T1.5 is only temporary. I thought T2 would be a great place for close matchups week after week but the guilds that left FA and DB have really mucked that up

This thread. Just wow.

Seriously though. Anet needs to release some tin foil hats in the gem store. Could make a fortune this week.

Its fun fighting KN and FA, while the score doesn’t really show it, this is a lot better matchup than last week.

alcopaul.2156:

It would be better for our server Kaineng to boycott WvWvW for a week and escape this imbalanced matchup. The then bandwagon (WM, CO, RISE, RE, Meow, XF, etc.) Kaineng wasn’t able go through the needle that is TC and FA T2 to go to T1. Do you expect a weaker server now void of these bandwagoners (even these bandwagoners are now on the other side) fare well with this same matchup?

I just don’t want CHIPSY and RE and KN bandwagoners to FA if there are any having the idea that what they did was right getting out of KN. Better lose rating by boycotting this just to flip KN’s finger to them and to the matchup in general.

I know it’s a game. But to be in full control of the situation sometimes you gotta be in full control of the path of the server that it is treading. You just don’t force yourself fighting the invincible zergs of T2 servers which sadly house the prolly now gloating exKNs. Boycott the matchup and let them TC and FA farm each other. Uphold your pride and honor and don’t give them an impression that KNs are walking lootbags.

I couldn’t swallow the fact that there are RE in KN while their forces are Zerging in TC. Imagine a RE guy in KN forking the whereabouts of Ajax Blue in EB to the RE zerg. This thought makes me cringe. This spying is bullcrap and needs to stop. Please RE get the rest of your people out of Kaineng.

I’ve been on Kain since I first got GW2. I remember [RE] was one of the first to join Kain (and last to leave). I remember the journey we went on together, turning me and countless others on the server from people who would attack a fortified gate with an arrow cart to half decent WvW’ers. I remember trying to interpret Jang’s Korean yelling and the first time we played against blackgate and got such a shock that my testicles shrivelled up into my abdomen.

A post like this hurts to read. I left for TC with [RE], not because I wanted to bandwagon to another server, but because the community on KN was getting so toxic and I didn’t agree with it any more. I want to be on a server where commanders aren’t openly trolled in mapchat, and you can walk through LA without some elitist calling your guild a piece of kitten. If the price I have to pay for this is being labelled a traitor then so be it. I feel bad about this matchup, it’s obviously unfair, but I miss the old KN.

Also there are still probably around 50 [RE] on Kain. Still very loyal to the server. It’d be nice if you’d understand they just want to WvW, and have nothing to gain by spying in such an already imba matchup.

Best wishes for the future KN, I’ve already been wiped by HIS and Ph numerous times :P

<3

Waffler.1257:

SquirtyMagoo.8321:

This has been said so many times before, but if you want 5v5 or small skirmishes then Heart of the Mists is available just for you.

You’re right, it has been said many times before and continues to be repeated despite it being completely incorrect. Hot-join sPvP and tPvP are not even remotely similar to small group WvW skirmishes. The people who think they are are the ones who have never tried small group WvW play and/or never tried sPvP/tPvP, which I’m guessing is an accurate description of you.

Thanks for assuming :P

I have tried it though, and in fact my guild sometimes uses it for training. It seems pretty decent to me, guaranteed even small-scale competition with no issues of seige/zergs running over and crushing you.

I understand it is not be the same as in WvW, but it certainly removes some of the aspects people constantly complain about.

Either way I like roamers, just wish some didn’t complain so much.

This has been said so many times before, but if you want 5v5 or small skirmishes then Heart of the Mists is available just for you.

Jumping people wearing PVT with you beserker gear theif really isn’t really proving anything. I will always run from roamers/skirmishers because I’m not an idiot.

A lot of the time if I am jumped by two or more I die before I reach the tower. In those cases fair enough, you deserve the loot bags xD

Vench Fullho.5694:

If you could choose the server to be matched up with tonight: I choose my server BG to get to fight TC because they secretly have wanted to get to tier 1 an now there are no more tiers an Sor just because I like kickin thier kitten in a good fight.

That sentence….

My poor brain….

aww crap, i was really holding out for Maguuma

…..

:)

Estus.1726:

I wanted to end this thread on a positive note.

As a member of a guild on Kaing that spent most of it’s time in PvE, I ran with RE quite a bit over the last couple months. I love WvWvW, but unfortunately my guild mates don’t.

I leveled a character from 1 to 80 in WvWvW running with RE commanders 60% of the time. I learned quite a bit. The clever use of portals to flank chasing Zergs made was great stuff. The open field fighting they did this past week was great training. I learned to grab loot bags on the run also!

I do believe Kaing will be fine after today. They have some good commanders and Guilds that will step up.

I’d say I’ll miss you guys in RE, but in truth I won’t…….

I finally joined RE last night after thinking about it for the last month. I’ll be moving with you. :-)))

:3

Although it makes me sad to take people from Kain.

I’m sure there are enough RE staying though that it should be pretty even.

Draygo.9473:

Wintuo.1356:

In regards to anyone on Kain feeling betrayed by a promise made long ago, if you were in our shoes and the choice was between upholding a promise and losing your core players, or moving to where your core players will be happy, what would you have decided?

No one is referencing promises you made long ago.

We’re talking only about weeks ago. Specifically stating that you would be sticking with us and not be transferring if we can maintain t3 or better.

Well we are rebuilding momentum in T3 with RE’s help we will not drop out of the T3 spot. I would suggest to whatever server you go to, that you wont make any promises only to break them in less than a month.

That was true for as long as XF was staying. With them moving to BG, we will now have no off-hours advantage. Pair that with the sub-par NA and T4 is inevitable I’m afraid.

Pinko.2076:

Squirty I don’t want to ruin our friendship. I want things to stay the way they are. You’re a great friend though.

So…… 200 gold?? more!?

Since I’ve been enjoying Mag’s company more and more recently, I decided to have a little think about the serious possibility of transferring over.

I’ve decided on some terms which, if sufficiently met, may seal the deal:

1. The Mag Pain-Train is renamed to Squirt’s Hurt-Train. I will be the sole commander. I don’t have a tag on my alt though so everybody will have to just remember what I look like and follow me. That should not be a problem though since militia are renowned for their co-ordination.
2. Maguuma is now an EB only server with everybody either being in EB, or queueing for EB. Other maps will not be tolerated.
3. DE|RP will be renamed to d*RE*p and will no longer be allowed to win GvGs.
4. Guardians are the only class allowed in WvW.
5. After several months the server has to fall apart, lose 70% of its WvW population and force me to transfer somewhere else.

I trust these are not too much to ask.
Also please let me know how much gold you plan to pay me to transfer.

Just want to say a quick thanks to everyone that talked to us yesterday. In my opinion this was a great way to go about it all. I think we have made some friends regardless of where we end up transferring.

Having said that by about 5 hours in we were pretty exhausted so sorry to Yak’s Bend and FA if we may have come across as a bit uninterested. That’s definitely not true and we really enjoyed learning about your servers.

shoognite.2106:

Do you RP? Join Maguuma? Here’s some tips to develop your character.

Various Roleplay Ideas

The following are various ideas that can be played out by the use of extensive emotes.

Smith or Craftsmen Something that isn’t done to death, a craftsmen or smith builds things for people, housing. A weapon that they need, a shield. A shoe, and usually get paid decently for their crafts.

Strangers at a tavern Easy to do and has not been done to death. Everyone in your role playing group goes into a tavern and sits down. Depending on the Character’s experences and lore, each player will act differently then the next. The possibilities are limitless.

Zoo-master/Petting zoo owner Collect pets and set up a small scale petting zoo for people to enjoy!

Poet/Minstrel One of the most fun characters to play, you get to be creative, writing songs and poetry and have people *gasp listen to you! Don’t make songs about you killing Goons though, you’ll get ignored more than admired.

……

Hair stylist Okay, you cant graphically change someones haircut, but half of roleplay is suspending your beliefs and just playing along :P

Hypnotist Now this would be a fun one. I am dying to try on an alt :P. If someone goes along don’t tell them to walk over a cliff.

Wait…. what thread am I in?

SHAKA ZULU.3128:

Arkanfel.8403:

When CO decided to move off of Kaineng, we wanted to go somewhere where we didn’t have to be the server’s main NA anchor. I wouldn’t be surprised if RE is in the same boat at this point—considering how long they stayed on Kaineng it is probably worse for them than it was for us.

Oh my quaggans, stop being so dramatic. I’ve been supportive of everyone leaving KN thusfar because it didn’t fit them but this argument is really grinding my gears. You guys and everyone else who left us for more accomodating pastures wanted to originally move to KN and carry the server, push it to the top. We were even a “project server” according to one guild. So huge surprise when, shock!, you ended up carrying the server like you intended to. You said you wanted that, but that’s not really true. What you all really wanted was a strong NA server to work with and not be depended upon to succeed in higher tiers, which you and everyone else knew before transferring to us that we did not have to begin with. _ So you went hard until we got to T2, stepped back a little to avoid burnout, and the original T8 KN couldn’t fill in, surprising no one. What did you think was going to happen when you took the original T8 population and put it in T2? That we wouldn’t need the large transfer guilds to stay there and could hold it on our own?

Again, no bad blood or anything, but just say you wanted to leave because you didn’t want that role anymore, not because you were so tortured and forced into it. And it’s ok that RE doesn’t want that role anymore either, it’s a lot of work. That’s all I’m going to say and I had to get it off my chest. Good luck, RE, any server would be lucky to have you.

To be fair to everyone involved in the Kaineng debacle. It has been about half a year since it began, this whole matter tends to get summarised as if it all happened over night. I don’t think CO are to blame either. They were the last guild to leave (until now) and they put up with a lot of drama to stay on Kain as long as they did.
Either way I always had good fun playing with them. At the end of the day it was WM that pulled the plug. The NA just collapsed as a result.

To get back on topic, I don’t think there is any rush and the next weeks matchups should be pretty interesting.

oooooooooh kinky

Faux Sheaux.6179:

There are T4/T5 servers that can queue all maps on reset, even if for only a short time. I highly doubt the T1 servers don’t do that as well.

Really???

Kaineng can currently only queue 2 maps on reset… for about 5 minutes, with absolutely nobody on the others. Its like a ghost town during the week :S

The gap between T2 and T3 is just ridiculous in terms of population.

sheeesh, get a room you two

…

totally not jealous

GuardianOMS.8067:

Losing our entire BL because of the siege cap bug. Game owns.

Yeh it was like that during NA prime time. How are you meant to stop the Mag karma train when you cant even place 1 AC

it is pretty dumb, gg Anet

Loki.4139:

PredatoR.5247:

Loki.4139:

NOT DRAGONBRAND

ignore this guy,

YES DRAGONBRAND.

We need the extra NA

No Dragonbrand
Lets keep Dragonbrand, Dragonbrand. Not Wagonbrand.

Trust me, after what happened to Kain, I think the last thing RE wants to do is join another bandwagon.

EB right now was pretty epic. I was sitting in Kaineng’s last remaining tower and got to watch two full yak and mag zergs collide.

Looked like a great battle.

Also almost taking a fully fortified SM while outmanned was cool.

This seige bug is annoying me though

Darksayian.1237:

MomentofWeakness.1246:

Commisar.8695:

I’m so confused as to where half the posts went and…Guh.
In reply to great lord miracle’s post, you may have killed 50 people by going around in that circle at SE camp, over and over (ps we all were laughing about that gj) But it was the same 5 pugs that’d stand in the doorway over and over, was your lawnmower zerg running full pvt? Because I was stood right in the middle of your group where you veiled into me, and I just walked out of it without going below 15khp….1v40 I’ll reck u m8.
I wasn’t referring to camp engagements in any of SE camp (because lol half of you wiped outside of seige range anyway gz), I was referring to ruins and SE tower when you stacked might in the skelk, then killed the skelk…and ran away,
Or on the ruins bridge, when you stacked might…. then ran away from four people, or when you pushed from ruins by triple veiling… but nobody was there so you kind of just kept running until you hit something before you turned and ran again. If that’s the glorious coordination of RE at work and the new meta is stacking might to run, I am humbled by your genius oh great and powerful miracle. PS, might stacking is really really stupid and I entangled and muddy terrained you you at least 3 times by walking near you, not to be attacked because might stacking required 100% concentration amirite?

You have a warped sense of reality. It must hurt your tiny heart to be a baddie Colhearth. Please fabricate more stories forum warrior that’s all you guys do on Maguuma. I got plenty of loot, WXP, and badges yesterday so I’m quite happy. We only want to fight you open field, not behind your over 9,000 siege fortifications which you scurry to when you see [RE] nearby.

Note: No disrespect intended to the tactful players of Maguuma like Xushin, who respect everyone an just play the game. It’s so annoying having to clean up all these fallacies that people post on here, get the facts right, get your stories straight, no one likes liars and if you weren’t there don’t intervene and talk like you were..

you know full well you don’t want an even open field fight against a few of your former running buddies!

here some video for you. See you in SC2 Space!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2eQrICeXdk

Oh boy I haven’t laughed that hard in a looong time

that clip of you chasing one guy 3v1, that music, that subtitles, that slowmo

This may just be the best worst thing I have ever seen.

Commisar.8695:

I’m so confused as to where half the posts went and…Guh.
In reply to great lord miracle’s post, you may have killed 50 people by going around in that circle at SE camp, over and over (ps we all were laughing about that gj) But it was the same 5 pugs that’d stand in the doorway over and over, was your lawnmower zerg running full pvt? Because I was stood right in the middle of your group where you veiled into me, and I just walked out of it without going below 15khp….1v40 I’ll reck u m8.
I wasn’t referring to camp engagements in any of SE camp (because lol half of you wiped outside of seige range anyway gz), I was referring to ruins and SE tower when you stacked might in the skelk, then killed the skelk…and ran away,
Or on the ruins bridge, when you stacked might…. then ran away from four people, or when you pushed from ruins by triple veiling… but nobody was there so you kind of just kept running until you hit something before you turned and ran again. If that’s the glorious coordination of RE at work and the new meta is stacking might to run, I am humbled by your genius oh great and powerful miracle. PS, might stacking is really really stupid and I entangled and muddy terrained you you at least 3 times by walking near you, not to be attacked because might stacking required 100% concentration amirite?

ROFL

Colhearth you almost take Sol’s title of most incoherent forum warrior…..

…

almost

GuardianOMS.8067:

SquirtyMagoo.8321:

You just gone done taken it to a HOLE NOTHA LEVEL!

GuardianOMS forum user guide:

1. Reply to everything
2. Misjudge my complete love of this thread

P.S. Just having fun yo

Oh you wanna go, bro?!

SquirtyMagoo forum user guide 2.0

1. Generalize more things
2. Misjudge my complete love of this thread

P.S. Havin’ fun yo

HOHOHOH you wanna see generalising???? You haven’t seen nothing yet.

Maguuma WvW player guide v2.0 patch 3.42

1. Complain about the other server’s zerg/PvDoor
2. Roll in the karma train all day bulldozing objectives

Kaineng WvW player guide v.t8-t3

1. Boast about superior Tier 8 skill
2. Get painfully rolled by the pug zerg

Yak’s Bend WvW player guide

1. ???
2. ???
3. Third place

GuardianOMS.8067:

SquirtyMagoo.8321:

Maguuma forum user guide:

1. Post pictures of dead enemy to bait a response
2. Complain when he responds

I have to admit, it is flawless.

SquirtyMagoo forum user guide:

1. Generalize all posters by their server
2. Complain

I have to admit, it is flawless.

You just gone done taken it to a HOLE NOTHA LEVEL!

GuardianOMS forum user guide:

1. Reply to everything
2. Misjudge my complete love of this thread

P.S. Just having fun yo

Maguuma forum user guide:

1. Post pictures of dead enemy to bait a response
2. Complain when he responds

I have to admit, it is flawless.

Tbh, without zero this thread would just have been accusation of hacking all week. Needs some good drama to keep it all exciting…

Too funny man. I’ve just never seen anything quite like this. Good old #magswag

Deadlysage.5873:

SquirtyMagoo.8321:

Maguuma – the only server that posts screenshots when they kill the enemy commander.

He’s not just any enemy commader, he’s a friend and ex guild mate that switch servers from Magumma to Kaineng for a situation that could have been resolved. So yea posting a screenshot of killing him in wvw on the wvw forums should be ok.

There’s nothing wrong with a little bit of friendly competition.

‘Guys we finally killed him, if we post it on the forums maybe he will regret his decision to leave us! Yes, our chest thumping over his dead body will surely be seen as a friendly gesture!!’

Maguuma – the only server that posts screenshots when they kill the enemy commander.

Pinko.2076:

I haven’t seen a good guild ever say they were hard to fight.

You must not have been looking

saiyr.3071:

SquirtyMagoo.8321:

At this point I’m really hoping Mag gets to face a T1 next week. If anything the thread would be hilarious.

People seem to forget that when Mag played Kain way back in January we were both bandwagon servers. Perhaps that is why it was one of the worst threads I can ever remember….

And it didn’t even have Sol !!!!!!

We weren’t really bandwagoned relative to what Kaineng got. Most of our bandwagon was random pubbies in T5 trying to do map completion, they were not helpful (or sometimes deliberately unhelpful, it was one of the worst few weeks I’ve ever had in WvW here). And the forum thread was bad because it was the first time you played Maguuma.

Hmm, the first time we played BG and TC in T2 was one of the best/longest threads ever.

Benjamin.6235:

Didn’t WM get stuck at tier 2 with you guys and rage quit to another server?

If you think WM was hard to play against, you either didn’t know what you were doing or you didn’t play against them. Please stop trying those stale tactics against us. It’s boring.

I mean this in the nicest possible way….. but shouldn’t you be dominating every guild in T3 if you found WM so easy?

And yes I said I don’t particularly like WM or what they did, I’m just interested in how my post about facing a more challenging servers and guilds next week got the immediate response ‘lolp no problem for mags, 2highskill’.

Surely there is some T2 or T1 guild you guys respect as being better than you?

At this point I’m really hoping Mag gets to face a T1 next week. If anything the thread would be hilarious.

People seem to forget that when Mag played Kain way back in January we were both bandwagon servers. Perhaps that is why it was one of the worst threads I can ever remember….

And it didn’t even have Sol !!!!!!

Ok guys
DORP > WM
Mag pugs > WM
and since Mags > Kain when we stopped by in T3
Mags > Blackgate
Mags > SoR
Mags > JQ

Mags so strong they play in T3 to avoid embarassing everyone else.

#Mags#1#xXxmegaskillzxXx#YOLO#alwaysoutnumbered#neverzerg#onlyskill

I’VE SEEN THE LIGHT!!!!!
Can I transfer today?

Pinko.2076:

SquirtyMagoo.8321:

Benjamin.6235:

T1 isn’t an increase in skill. It’s an increase in numbers.

I don’t really remember many of the guilds we’ve fought, so I can’t really point to a lot of specific examples, but do you know how odd it was to find out how easy it was to beat WM after all that hype? They were a T1 skill level guild back on their way up, right? The guild that was fairly easy to beat if you just refused to stand in front of them? XF and WvW need to realize how bad of an idea it is to still be playing like baby warmachines. The best thing WM did was abuse culling. Stacking might and trying to magically appear inside the enemy group is an outdated tactic that just looks silly now.

I’m afraid I must disagree with almost everything you have said. For sure the numbers in T1 and T2 are larger, but there are guilds in there that have co-ordination and individual skill you just don’t find in this tier.
I seriously doubt you ever fought against the true WM if that is the way you talk of them. The true WM ran in a group of about 10-15 and would crush through 30-40 man zergs of any guild (even HB)

The WM you are remembering was likely just a pub zerg lead by Jang, which is actually what he spent most of his time doing.

I’m really not a fan of them after what they did to this server, but I’ve got to defend how good they were.
In fact the best thing WM did was take a T8 server and teach scrubs like me how to WvW.

I would tell you how not amazing WM was, and how much multiple guilds wiped them easily from Mag, but talking back about them is an automatic infraction on these forums.

It’s a good thing their leadership forbid them from doing gvg or duels, because there would be a lot of unfortunate videos.

Are you seriously suggesting dorp would win a gvg against WM?

Am I getting trolled?

I mean you guys are a great guild… but come on…

Benjamin.6235:

T1 isn’t an increase in skill. It’s an increase in numbers.

I don’t really remember many of the guilds we’ve fought, so I can’t really point to a lot of specific examples, but do you know how odd it was to find out how easy it was to beat WM after all that hype? They were a T1 skill level guild back on their way up, right? The guild that was fairly easy to beat if you just refused to stand in front of them? XF and WvW need to realize how bad of an idea it is to still be playing like baby warmachines. The best thing WM did was abuse culling. Stacking might and trying to magically appear inside the enemy group is an outdated tactic that just looks silly now.

I’m afraid I must disagree with almost everything you have said. For sure the numbers in T1 and T2 are larger, but there are guilds in there that have co-ordination and individual skill you just don’t find in this tier.
I seriously doubt you ever fought against the true WM if that is the way you talk of them. The true WM ran in a group of about 10-15 and would crush through 30-40 man zergs of any guild (even HB)

The WM you are remembering was likely just a pub zerg lead by Jang, which is actually what he spent most of his time doing.

I’m really not a fan of them after what they did to this server, but I’ve got to defend how good they were.
In fact the best thing WM did was take a T8 server and teach scrubs like me how to WvW.

There is a 4% chance Kaineng face Blackgate next week (based on 1000 random rolls), with even less of a chance of us facing JQ or SoR (although this will likely change after this weeks results). Maguuma is much more likely to end up playing a T1.

Either way whoever moves up a tier is in for a real eye opener. Without wanting to sound arrogant, RE has done quite well for itself in T3, but we were definitely a mid card guild in T2 and there were a couple of guilds that wiped us without a second thought. I remember when we first got to T2 and were being repeatedly wiped by [HB] within 10 seconds of even seeing them. I’m guessing playing a T1 server would be quite a shock to any T3 server in terms of skill after playing amongst each other for so long.

Commisar.8695:

Sol.8341:

I hear that some WvW bear guilds wanting to transfer up Tiers to get more competitive fights. I understand some are feeling sore that Kaineng gets to fight for free than having to pour massive gold for the transfers. Some just gets lucky at the lottery

P.S. If you hurry, it’s cheaper to transfer to Kaineng now for the same fighting deal. Added benefit of no one will call you bandwagoning since everyone knows our NA/EU coverage is low

As a sidenote, only go to kaineng if you’re a kitten 007, they’ll call your name in victory over the team chat over and over, mass reporting is a sign of commitment over on kain, so always to remember to put your tags up kids!

Wow you really are so mad about that aren’t you. Sounds like you really wanted to stay on Kaineng. You can come back if you want!! Just this time remember to explain what you are doing and probably not best to lead our militia to their death repeatedly.

Who on earth do they get to make these ratings systems…. my god this is so terrible. As said previously Rand[-1,1] is too big a range initially, tone it down for the first few weeks at least until the deviations work themselves out.

I’m almost considering applying to work for Anet, as some of this is beyond beleif.

And the fact they think Kaineng vs JQ or BG could even be a fun matchup at this point shows how completely uninterested they are in WvW.

Absolutely shocking…

jaycatano.6738:

Sorry if you think we are infiltrating your TS, I can assure you that the majority of the players I play with do not waste our time with sneaking into other servers VOIP because it is just that, a waste. I can’t speak for everyone though so there very well could be someone in there that is listening in on you. And as to the commander targetting thing, we do it all the time. we can easily click through a zerg and eventually find the one with the commanders buff since the commander is usually in the front it isnt very hard, I have never seen someone ask for other commanders to ping their gear, that is a new one for me.

Yeh, obviously it is very easy to see who the commander is on the battlefield and target them. But just the fact people are trying these weird methods it is slightly worrying. And if someone is that committed to winning then going on the Kain TS would just be the next logical step…

1. Kaineng

(because there are no guilds left to leave…. QQ)

kiwiburner.2186:

The result is, you have a pretty decent RE zerg (which granted, used to do its fair share of kittening about kitten PUGs" (always thought the “s” was superfluous myself but figured few of you knew what PUG stood for) which has locked itself in its room while the “pugs” stand, clueless, out in the rain. Those same pugs who could be following your instructions, and a great deal of whom did (myself included) don’t even bother to make up numbers for you any more because they don’t even like to imagine the volume of the kittening about them on your guild ts3 server…

It is all just ineffably sad. I hope the changes to the way match-ups are generated will build some excitement and teamwork again, however I don’t see how that will be possible with everyone locked in their guild channels/servers.

Very best,

Megumi Shino.

I haven’t been playing that much recently, but generally we try to use the term ‘militia’ over pugs and avoid blaming them for wipes etc.
I mean I’m not sure if you remember RISE, CO or WM, but we at least respect other Kaineng players… At the very worst I call them squirrels when 10 of my 15 man zerg go off to chase one YB thief o_o

I know this current matchup is unlike the other tiers we have been in in that certain Maguuma players are trying lots of ways to headhunt our commanders or track our movements. There have been lots of people trying to sneak into parties so they can track our zerg and even people posing as Kaineng players trying to get the commanders to link the gear they wear so they can identify them on the battlefield better. This combined with the Kain TS being very unsecure means its easy to get paranoid at the moment.

I agree though we need a solution for the whole server to be able to communicate.

Heya TC/FA. One of the few remaining Kain here.

T3 is so dead. Even having lost thousands of WvW’ers and with only 1 major remaining WvW guild we are managing to stay in T3. This makes it clear that the gap between T2 and T3 is now so huge that there is not way a T3 server could make it in T2 without a huge bandwagon.
So maybe remember that when thinking about DB. If it was just the old guard, they probably would have been stomped back down in T3 in one week (since the reason they made it up was Kain’s collapse).

Anyway hope you guys are still doing what you do. <3

Commisar.8695:

I think I’ll post my time on kaineng, I transferred maybe a month ago to the server to play more Spvp with some friends and because their guild ran zerg buster, kaineng dropped into mag’s tier the next week. I expected to be called a spy, once or twice, people to be hesitant and I play EU time, which is a pretty weak spot in most server’s timezones, maybe I’d have been a godsend, a disgusting godsend maybe but a godsend none the less.

My first day on in this tier went okay, I started off roaming in EB, and then some people started to follow me shrug So I pop my tag on and start leading an attack, great! Actually being able to do stuff on one of the first days I joined the server! 5 minutes later some great person spams, iirc the following in chat ‘’COLHEARTH IS MAG SPY DON’T FOLLOW OR U DIE’’ Okay…I was kind of expecting something similiar to happen so I tried to explain that I’m not a spy and if I wanted to spy why would I wear my darp tag with my icon on, at which point I was told I was a terrible spy….Thanks. At any rate map chat became a roar of ‘’Dat colherth is an spy’’ So I lost anyone following me and turned my tag off…How open of kaineng to accept transfers, transfers who hadn’t moved server since bwe1 and had purely played wvw for over a thousand hours, man.
Rinse and repeat, I joined this server to help out, I couldn’t care less about the score and all I wanted were some good fights against some buds, I managed to get one or two fights before being ousted as the worst spy in the history of forever. The same happened my whole time on kaineng, I decided it was time to transfer home when I got mass reported by XF for being a spy and using up supply and buying upgrades we didn’t need….while dancing, while they were near and insulted me for dancing….
Even though I was already here, I would have stayed if I’d enjoyed it more than mag, I get ousted, someone with more experience than most of your pugs. Even though I was a turn coat my guild funded my return, thanks <3

PS kaineng, you have the worst intercommunication I’ve ever seen. You need to work on that…Seriously.

You run in Kain WvW with commander and dorp tags without telling anyone your reason for being there or intentions beforehand….
I don’t want to seem to condescending… but what did you really expect people were going to think?

I whispered you the first day I read from a Mag in this thread that you were on Kain now (that was the first time you being a spy was ever suggested). I was entirely civil (since I expected the post might be false) and you ignored me, which is fair enough, but if you don’t want people to assume the worst, why not simply explain to us or post on the forums your situation.

Sorry you had a foul experience on Kaineng, but I do remember asking you for your side of the story at the very beginning. Since you said nothing I personally assumed you just had no idea what you were doing.

tldr; one simple forum post could have cleared all of that up!

zastari.1730:

SquirtyMagoo.8321:

kerona.3465:

No… we’re winning because we have people who log on every day to go to WvW and our participation doesn’t take a huge hit after the weekend is over. From the score trends the past few weeks, that’s kinda a no-brainer.

It’s sad to say but our reset participation isn’t as big as everyone thinks. Even during the NA prime time we had only enough to man 3 BLs ( nobody on Yaks BL at all ) and were solidly behind because of this during prime time. I think people confuse our guilds putting in more effort on reset with ‘increased participation’. The truth is guilds like FBA that held mags keep for 20+ hours with 10 people can’t do that during the weekdays. Similarly the NA guilds that stayed up late on reset to paint the map can’t do that every night.

I wish we had big reset participation. Unfortunately its just our remaining guilds putting in extraordinary effort when they can afford to (i.e. at the weekends but not during weekdays).

You had the other servers outmanned on every BL throughout SEA time and had your PPT swing over +600. No matter how you cut it, that’s big compared to the other servers.

If you would just read what I said…

Most of our NA stayed up all night, certain guilds for a day straight to acheive that PPT. We do have some residual SEA players after WM left, but that effort was mostly NA, hence why it isn’t repeated every night.
Also we do not have nearly enough numbers to outman all 4 maps during SEA, our zerg just went map to map painting each in turn till they were all done (like you currently do with your NA).

Again, I just wish to emphasise Kain is not a ‘weekend only’ server, that is just when people can afford to stay online all night and wait till you all log off to get PPT.

kerona.3465:

No… we’re winning because we have people who log on every day to go to WvW and our participation doesn’t take a huge hit after the weekend is over. From the score trends the past few weeks, that’s kinda a no-brainer.

It’s sad to say but our reset participation isn’t as big as everyone thinks. Even during the NA prime time we had only enough to man 3 BLs ( nobody on Yaks BL at all ) and were solidly behind because of this during prime time. I think people confuse our guilds putting in more effort on reset with ‘increased participation’. The truth is guilds like FBA that held mags keep for 20+ hours with 10 people can’t do that during the weekdays. Similarly the NA guilds that stayed up late on reset to paint the map can’t do that every night.

I wish we had big reset participation. Unfortunately its just our remaining guilds putting in extraordinary effort when they can afford to (i.e. at the weekends but not during weekdays).

Pinko.2076:

CHIPS.6018:

saiyr.3071:

CHIPS.6018:

Pinko.2076:

LethalxKiller.3571:

T3 is so screwed up I wish maguuma would take first and it was a more even match up. I just like maguuma. :P

We took first last week, and likely will this week. Kain loses a lot of people after the weekend for some reason.

We didn’t lose ppl. We just have very few Europeon players. That’s by far our weakest time zone. In the weekends we can play overtime to cover it. But in the weekdays everyone got work and school so we lost everything to pvdoor. That’s costing us a lot of points. >_>

No worries though. The fights are fun and that’s good enough for me.

That’s pretty much the definition of losing people, isn’t it? Your NA prime time isn’t as strong as it is on the weekends. Work and school aren’t really a complete story for that, it’s not as if we don’t all have similar situations.

When we do have people we always wins. That’s all we care about at this point. That final score has much more to do with our European coverage, which is out of our control so why worry?

Everyone wins when they have more people, though. That’s mostly what WvW is about. I think Mag only cares because there’s about 8 hours of dead air for us during the day and it gets quite boring!

Honestly, if this matchup was decided by number of WvW’ers it would have been mag 1st, yak 2nd , kain 3rd from day 1

Luckily it isnt.

jaycatano.6738:

Pinko.2076:

LethalxKiller.3571:

T3 is so screwed up I wish maguuma would take first and it was a more even match up. I just like maguuma. :P

We took first last week, and likely will this week. Kain loses a lot of people after the weekend for some reason.

And with some of us NA guys staying up later each week (I honestly think we are going to turn into the group that tries to hold off land before bony gets on, just maybe). But I agree that kain seems to lose a lot after weekends and we tend to have a lower turnout on reset nights and the weekends.

Your reset night turnout was fine. On the other hand we didn’t even have enough people to go on all 4 borderlands at reset. We had nobody on Yak BL at all

Kain is just a relatively low pop server atm and that shows throughout the week when the core players aren’t always available any more.

LethalxKiller.3571:

T3 is so screwed up I wish maguuma would take first and it was a more even match up. I just like maguuma. :P

??? It is very balanced……. Probably one of the most balanced tiers.

Although I must admit, how Kain is still holding a lead still is blowing my mind. Looks like that time in T2 really benefited our WvW players to hold out this well so undermanned.
Once all those guilds left I was convinced we were destined for T4/5.

gogo Kain, fight till the bitter end.

jaycatano.6738:

but for the most part im running around scouting, defending yaks, upgrading towers, keeps, camps, etc, manning siege, all the boring tasks people don’t usually do lol.

Ah so you are one of those people who are actually useful in WvW xD
I wish everyone was like that!

John Widdin.9618:

SquirtyMagoo.8321:

Unfortunately he could be replying to a number of posts. So much whine about 2:1, arrow carts and map hopping.

Map hopping is the funniest one for me, I had no idea Mags thought that was a cheap tactic lol.

I wasn’t aware anyone did. Stop generalizing.

Especially considering we do it.

Woops, ur right. Bad generalising.
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