Guild Wars 2

No one’s forcing you to get the backpiece, it’s more of a want issue on your part. You can complain all you want like other people, but at the end of the day, if you want some thing “ooh-aaaaahh” in the game, you better be prepared to make some sacrifices. BTW, the fractal backpiece is a precursor to the legendary if you didn’t know already. And we all know how much precursors cost in comparison.

Purple Miku.7032:

There was actually one point in the video where OP swapped to air attunement.

https://youtu.be/0anv1XswfIc?t=8m15s

Then back to water for the next 42 minutes.

https://youtu.be/0anv1XswfIc?t=20m35s

Well, congrats. I guess you’ve just proven the extent of which this game has to offer.

Ooh nice catch, I should’ve stayed on water.

On another note:
Other teams can choose to engage bosses w/e way they want. Whether it’s running around kiting bosses and spamming skills to evading stuff and throwing reflects to give them the feeling like they actually do something and feel “Elite” cause other people can’t do such simple stuff?

But for us, we prefer to just facetank stuff and kill it. Most runs I get to read manga on half my screen or watch youtube vid’s of cats so I’m happy.

Same results, time difference between the two playstyles is barely recognizable.

Jayden Ennok.3687:

I see you display same skill level of spamming staff water aa no matter what just as you did in vids you used for recruitment to your fractal run guild few months ago. nice utilities, perfect for healing others.

And your point? It took us around 44 mins to do FoTM 100 mai this way with this simple setup that requires very little effort, yet yeilds the same rewards.(There was around 15 Mins of AFK-Time in this vid and some post-run stuff making it 1h long). Do you honestly expect people to run around dodging everything and using every single skill on our bars and freak out? You’ve got to be kidding.
Fractals was never a challenge in the first place, the Pre-HoT 50 was a joke. Consistent 20-28 min runs with this setup, granted no dual guardians and heal ele ONLY* used on Mai Trin.
This video was made with a standard Zerk team setup on a FoTM 100 with mob toughness and HP heavily scaled. Running a DPS Condi team would’ve yielded 25-35 mins easily had we ran a different setup.

deSade.9437:

… may I advise you to at least play druid, so you buff your team’s damage while healing? condi, preferably… se-settlers? /shudder

I guess you and that blade guy posting here share something in common shudder. I did post that we decided to use oldschool builds and setups for this run without elite specs.

Yeah, many thanks for all the compliments. Was a nice chill run. Heck, even got to throw a few messages on my phone. Don’t really care though. At the end of the day, rewards are what we’re after anyway. If it requires a Tank & Healer to achieve it, doesnt matter. But please do post your super awesome 100 Fractal runs so I can watch how easy it is for you too (^_^)

Fractals drops me quite alot. Around 1 exotic every 2-3 runs (sometimes almost every run) Other than that, buying exotics and salvaging would be fastest. If you’ve got the gold.

bladex.9502:

For the fact that you apparently love heals, you sure are good at playing healer ele as inefficient as possible.
If you would take less “tanks” it would have been a lot easier since you can burn down the adds faster, and you don’t have to camp water and icebow autoattack for 40 minutes.

Appreciate your attempt at giving me advice, but pls refrain from giving advice in the future until you learn how to read. I obviously posted that this isn’t our standard DPS setup and that we played it safe this round. And also please be kind enough to inform the world of how to “efficiently” play heal ele mr obviously pro heal ele.

Finally able to upload our run of Fractal 100 from awhile ago, I must say.. it’s somewhat challenging? and also not so. This is the first time we ran it. We heard rumors of a special surprise inside but we just went in paying it no heed because we didn’t want it to be spoiled.

Prior to entrance, we formulated a plan, going off of our Guild META setup (1 AH hammer guardian tank, 1 PS war, 1 Zerk ele) and added a 2ndary Hammer tank just incase with me running heal ele(Mmm heals<3)

This isn’t our standard DPS spike team, but we wanted to play it safe and successful on our first try so enjoy the vid. It’s 1h long, around 12 minutes of AFK/Goofing around time from 8:00-20:00.

We didn’t use elite specializations, we went in old-school and it did well. Should be alot faster with the new classes/spec’s though. Neither did we use condition damage classes like the Viper/Sinister Engi, we know Zerk is still viable. SLower, but proper setup and tactics, still good.

What can you expect from a 100 fractal? Take a beating, a couple downs, some loot and your gold fractal weapon chest Also good team-play and tactics get’s you a long way, so work on those. It’s not hard, none of the fractal’s are hard with the right tactics.

Aktium.9506:

The gold fractal weapons definitely need more of a glow. And trails like the normal fractal weapons except gold coloured. It just ain’t acceptable for my weapon to be less incandescent than myself.

Yeah, your GS looks like reindeer chocolate. They need an aesthetic overhaul :I

I’d like it to look like the 2nd Pic I posted under the “good lightning” situation.. but it mostly looks like the night time pic. That sucks. There’s only a few places where it actually looks nice.. everywhere else and during the night it looks like mud.

Malediktus.9250:

Look at gold in real life in a dark area. It wont look that gold either. The gold is a result of light reflections. If there is little light gold looks worse.

And also in real life, fighting a giant dragon with a bow and arrows or a heavy sword that you most certainly wouldn’t be able to swing effectively would totally not get you killed. And if you die, you don’t stay dead, there are thing’s called “waypoints” everywhere in real life. Did I forget to mention how easy it is to swim with 100lb+ of gear in water? Oh, and all your real life belongings are magically shrunk till you need to use them, allowing you to basically take all your life possessions with you everywhere you go. Real life is awesome right? Exactly like a GAME.

Rings still have a high drop rate. you just get less now (3 chances a day vs 4 Pre-HoT)

And a nighttime pic… :I

Loving the gold fractal weapons, so far I’ve gotten a couple. I think they are awesome! They match my color scheme perfectly but the only problem with them is that in dark lighting / environments.. they don’t look.. well.. gold! I saw the Pre-Hot picture of the Charr wielding the Golden GS, I was “ooh ahh, shiny! Grabby Hands” mine doesnt even look remotely near that shiny in most environments. Wish this would be fixed. Still love them and I’ve reskinned most of my Legendary weapons to the gold fractal weapons. I think ANET did a great job overall, just this one little thing about them, that’s my only complaint.

Good lighting —--

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Shadow/Dark Lightning/Environment —-

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^ Horrible drop rates from what people say. Too bad you weren’t one of the one’s who farmed fractals Pre-HoT… Missed out on alot =/.
Don’t count on higher-lvl fractals giving you “More relics”. In the time it takes to finish lets say.. an 80+ or so, you could’ve spammed a couple lvl 2 swamp’s and gotten more relics, if not double/triple in the same amount of time. Pristine relics, you can still get 5 Daily if you do all the dailies.

This isn’t hard. My team just camped the norm spot at Left Seal. Guard + War stacked on each other, 3 ele’s in the hallway and stuff 2 nuking from a distance while the 3rd(Myself) ran Heals. Smooth and uneventful, no stress. When the® side chanters ran into the tunnel after a pull, just run and stack on opposite side of war/guard, LoS from the oncoming chanters and you’re fine.

I (Heal ELE) was the Main runner of hammer to® / Far seal(The first one you see running into it)
I call it® because it’s the Colossus’ RIGHT ARM. Hit it right, avoid KD and getting spiked like a noob. Poof. Magic!

Dont know what you’re crying about. I had 3-4 guildies all get ascended armor/weapon chests the first 3-4 days after patch. And the rings are still dropping. Maybe you have bad RNG.
Remember, this is RNG like everything else in GW2. Don’t ever go into fract’s expecting a ascended chest every few times. Heck, i’ve gone weeks before without a single armor/weapon chest drop. It happens. It sucks. deal with it. if you want to cry about it being a gold sink, keep on doing so, but last I checked, most of the Pre-HoT farmers already had 70+ AR anyway, that’s enough for FoTM 55 nowadays. still able to do daily 51+. Doing any higher is on you if you want to spend the Gold to upgrade agony, of which doesn’t really TAKE MUCH GOLD because it’s relics for +5 into +7 anyway, which boosts AR up by 28 without using up gold.

[NA] Fractal guild seeking the following:

Warriors (Phalanx Strength only)
AH Hammer Guardian’s (Soldier/Zerker mix or tanky)
Ele’s(Zerk Staff/High DPS setups)
Thieves
Engineers.

Req’s:
Fractal Mastery lvl 2-3+ preferred
AR: 90-140+ (Higher the better)

Runs:
Daily around server reset 2-3h before and during.
Level ranges:
- Daily Fractals & progression

Also struggling with relics. It’s an uphill fight trying to get them while upgrading char’s with AR for higher lvls.. ANET y u do this?

Ran into the same problem. just use your spare rings. Or get new ones and infuse them if you want results quickly.

Rings, lvl 2 fractal mastery. Buy item from the unlocked merchant in FoTM obeservatory. throw your ring in forge and poof.

What rewards? Where? It’s not specific.

I was about to buy some from gemstore.. when.. POOF! There were none in sight. What happened to the Karma Boosters? None of the New boosters have them< I want my karma ! Q_Q

HwaRyun.1807:

ThyShadowPaladin.9521:

Depends on preferences. My team’s Use 1 PS war, 1 Guard, 3 Ele’s(Staff).

Same set-up that we use most of the time for our runs these days. The damage is just crazy with this set-up, and to me, it’s better than running with a thief since we don’t skip mobs in our runs. Even killing all the mobs only really adds a few minutes to the run length, and it’s worth it for the extra loot if you ask me.

Totally agree. Even with killing mobs, run times are still casual 20-25 +/- for timegates and goofing off for 50s with a seasoned guild team and usually and the loot’s pretty nice too Yay Unidentified Objects!

Depends on preferences. My team’s Use 1 PS war, 1 Guard, 3 Ele’s(Staff).

^ Casual Run Example.

Jobs/Priorities:

PSwar:

Setup:
Standard Full zerk + str runes + Accuracy&Might sigil on GS + PS traits(Support) + Dumplings + Maintenance Oil.

-0-25 Might in the first 2-3 seconds of fight (For the ele’s to nuke after their spike preps)
-Defense/Str + Discipline Banners.
-Battle Standard
-Condition Removal w/ warhorn (PS war’s are traited support so warhorn condition removal + banner regen)
-Vulnerability (3-7 stacks or so)
-Almost permanent swiftness for running around (Warhorn / Banner #3)
-Weakeness (Warhorn 5, Part of the DPSMight+Support rotation)
-Defiance Removal (With Mace/WH as secondary, you get a nice 2 defiance removal from Mace 3 + Burst)
-Vigor (Warhorn #5, Great survivability for the team since it gives Weakness + Vigor)
+Other Warrior stuff (Situational)

Guardian(s): (AH Hammer)
We only take 1 Guard max, sometimes 2-3 depending on mood, or if we’re teaching a new guildie how to guard.
Typical gear for guardian is:
Set 1:
Full soldier + Pack runes + (Full zerk trinks w/ 2-3 Soldier trinkets for extra tanking – situational)
- Since these are Pack runes, the guardian gives the party 10-12s of: Might+Fury+Swiftness often since they are getting hit alot, triggering the rune.

Set 2:
Full soldier + Trooper runes (This is mainly for Mai trin, or fractals that require condition removal. The guardians pack “Receive the Light” + 2-3 shouts + Elite FMW so the condition removal is strong) + Full zerk trinkets(With 2-3 soldier trinkets for extra tanking)

Set 3: Full zerk, flame legion/Scholar runes. (If more than 1 Guardian, all OTHER guardians switch to zerk except the Main guardian which is the TANK)

Why not a cleric or whatever set? cause the Guardian, along with tanking is expected to do damage too. (Average DPS 6-9k+ a second on Set 1, Not much DPS loss w/ set 2 since Soldier armor retains highest Power output/modifier w/ min/secondary on Vit/Tough)

Setup is Hammer + Staff(Changes situational)

Job/Priorities:
-Facetanking every boss even at FoTM 50. (Ascalon boss can 1-shot you but a good dodge/Aegis usually saves you.)
-Boons: Protection, Aegis, Swiftness, Quickness, Fury.
-Projectile Reflects/Absorbs
-DPS: Average DPS is 6-9k Even when tanking. You keep the boss off your team so they can freely spam DPS while also doing damage yourself so you don’t hinder your team as opposed to “Cleric” or “Heal” guardians who don’t do much damage + mediocre heals.
-Hammer #5 + Staff #5 for mob control (Used properly, these freely allow you to DPS Melee mobs at corners or in open battlefields for 7-9 seconds without taking damage.)
-Might stacking : Staff #4, combined with the warrior’s “For Great Justice” gets you close to the 25 Might threshold in the first 2-3 seconds of all boss fights. (The warrior will spike it from 18-25 almost immediately upon contact w/ bosses.)
-Other Guardian Stuff.

3x Elementalists: ***VIOLENCE***

Setup: Full zerk Scholar/Pack/Flamelegion + Staff (2 staves if you want to get super moto. Staff1:ForceAccuracy Sigil, Staff2:Night+Force Sigil)

Job/Priority:

-Do Damage. Like.. not that 1-1-1-1-1 Crap, none of that [Air] [Water] [Earth] Attunement crap, its 99% *[FIRE ATTUNEMENT] 1-2-5-2-1-1-2-etc. W/ Icebows ofc.

-Might? That’s the warrior+Guardian’s job(My team’s don’t care about pre-stacking since we have 25 might almost immediately upon starting an encounter.)

-Fury? – Guardian and Warrior have that covered.

-Swiftness? – Guardian and Warrior have this covered.

-Blinds+Vuln: Glyph of storms, Situational.

-Earth elemental? Don’t summon it. We don’t need it. The Guardian has it covered, Earth ele summon only takes aggro from the Guard which messes up Positioning + Tactics.

-Fire elemental? Heck yeah!

Survival? With the guardian tanking and keeping an eye on your HP(Recieve the light heal) and giving aegis+Protection, you’re safe. Just do damage pew pew.

Skipping stuff? lol? Kill EVERYTHING or just run past, spamming Air #5, Earth #4, Guardian Hammer+Staff #5, Poof done.

But what about Spamming Icebow #5? – Lol are you serious? in Fractals? Are bosses really that hard to require constant freezing? The answer: No, they’re not. This is the only reason to take a thief (Except for Dredge stuff + Maw drain). No one needs Icebow #5 Spam’s in fractals.

Breakdown:
PS war = Damage + Support
AH Hammer = Facetanking + Damage + Support
Ele = Salt the women, Burn the fields, Grape the Houses, VIOLENCE!!

Thaddeus.4891:

ThyShadowPaladin.9521:

After many fractal runs, I find no need in spamming icebow 5’s tbh.
-Headshot is a SEVERE waste of DPS. Especially when running with a class that gives quickness like guardian/mesmer.. a full line of initiative gives.. like 4-5 headshots? that’s also 4-5 pistol whips in around 4-7 seconds..
-You’re looking at.. lets say 2000-3000 damage (from the 4-5 Headshots) and 80,000-100,000k+ from pistolwhips (4-5 of them).

Also as someone stated, ele Freezes, you remove defiance with PW spams for DPS, Pick up icebow, then Icebow 5 again if you want. Poof.

The thing that you missed is that you never do 4-5 H. You only need to stay in D/P for 2-3 second. Steal + Basilik Venom + 1-2 HS is really quick and after you can do the rest of the fight in D/D.

You lose some DPS during a couple of second by using D/P rather than S/P, but you’ll gain far more dps since you gonna switch to D/D very quicly. Especialy since the kind of fight when you want to double Icebow are fight against single target bosses where S/P can’t really compete in term of dps to D/D.

But at this point, the difference isn’t much really. Both method work great. It really depend which one you prefer to play and in which group.

Ok, are you serious? D/P over S/P? and you’re using D/P for “Headshot”, you do realize that S/P also has “Headshot” and can also put Basilisk venom, AND you HAVE to use steal to get that 5th pistolwhip out anyway? The damage gap is enormous either way with the same effect. even if you just do 2 Pistol whips vs 2 head shots D/P – S/P that’s looking at almost/more than 40k damage gap with the same effect. Maybe* 1-2 seconds since P/W has an animation.
Also 1s cast on basilisk venom, might as well just head shot it twice, steal to recharge initiative, and head shot again if removing defiance fast is all you aim for, but there goes your DPS. All that DPS loss just to remove defiance, makes sense right?

After many fractal runs, I find no need in spamming icebow 5’s tbh.
-Headshot is a SEVERE waste of DPS. Especially when running with a class that gives quickness like guardian/mesmer.. a full line of initiative gives.. like 4-5 headshots? that’s also 4-5 pistol whips in around 4-7 seconds..
-You’re looking at.. lets say 2000-3000 damage (from the 4-5 Headshots) and 80,000-100,000k+ from pistolwhips (4-5 of them).

Also as someone stated, ele Freezes, you remove defiance with PW spams for DPS, Pick up icebow, then Icebow 5 again if you want. Poof.

I agree w/ Nike. I don’t believe this story. Even I don’t have that kind of stamina for 18 FULL fractal runs with.. PUGS in a day(Pushing from 30-50 on fractured took me around 2days).. whom I can say without a doubt take awhile to finish. OP seems to have blown it out of proportion.

BTW… “Smooth” runs don’t take an average of 45m+. Bad teams do 40+ min runs.

They are somewhat helpful, yes. But we don’t need them for our fractal runs.

I’d say around 50 Pristine relics per weapon sounds good. It’ll allow most of the current players to finish their collections, yet keep that feeling of prestige around them.

IrisTheCasual.3742:

This morning, I was nonchalantly practicing the three-wisp run on my mes on level 29. I posted an LFG “Scale 29, 30 AR. No underwater Mossman please”. As my group filled up, this Mr. Bad-@s$ shot me a PM. It turns out he also blocked me in advance because I couldn’t answer him. So yeah, in case he would read this topic: “What’s the deal with you? It’s my group.”

It’s usually the newbs who do underwater moss cause they can’t handle him on land. Good teams have no problems with fighting mossman legitimately and it’s 2-4x faster than water. Whomever PM’ed you is clueless. Keep up the good work.

I agree w/ OP. I think Mai Trin is a boring and unnecessarily timegated fight. I feel that this fractal is more of a chore than enjoyment and so does a majority of my Guild. It’s very dull and lost is luster as any sort of “challenge” a long, long, long time ago. I also had Mai 5x in a row today, each taking 7-10 mins ranging from Tier 5 to Tier 1 Fractals. It’s really annoying once you’ve done it hundreds of times, I hope it changes with the new fractals. Maybe remove the timegated cannons atleast.

My ring count’s around 700-780 atm. Can’t wait to put them to good use

Ayrilana.1396:

I think you need more karma

And congrats!

That’s actually my next goal, and I’m close.. So close, I can almost taste it licks lips

Ithamir.5928:

It’s not about “adapting”! As a mesmer, I could change builds all I want, the core issue will still remain. The only thing I bring to a group, that others don’t do better, is reflects. No matter what I would do I will be subpar if I can’t reflect. There’s no other option for a mesmer. I wish there was, but there isn’t.

It seems that you’ve identified the problem. And I recall someone already suggesting transferring gear to an elementalist which provides more for the group (Damage+Blinds+Vuln+Might+Projectile *Blocks*+Earth Ele tank,etc,etc,etc) aside from timewarp every 90s or so and some reflects.
Not telling you how to play, just giving suggestions which are better alternatives to camping mesmer on said “Mistlock Instabilities” that cripple whatever effectiveness it has and complaining about it on forums.

You do know you can get a ton of ascended chests from fractals. 0g needed. Also, if you failed to notice, the current Legendaries are ALL gold grinds. No difference. No one’s forcing to to farm for them. If you wan’t a legendary get it. If not, then don’t. The farming + grind required is part of the acquisition process.

Quarktastic.1027:

ThyShadowPaladin.9521:

Suggestion:

Use a different class for those levels then, and don’t drag your team down. (Heck, you still have timewarp)

Everyone know’s different levels/situations require different tactics/setups/approaches, etc. So why bring a knife to a gun fight? When you can bring an .50 cal.

Adapt and overcome.

I’ll be bringing my ranger. Because I can’t be bothered to roll a new profession just for fractals.

Feel free to rage at me.

You’re calling me out cause I said use a better class for the Occasion/Mistlock cause you can roll mesmer on a different mistlock that doesn’t screw it over for the most part?
Besides, highly unlikely we’ll meet in fracts anyway. Have fun getting carried by some other team.

Suggestion:

Use a different class for those levels then, and don’t drag your team down. (Heck, you still have timewarp)

Everyone know’s different levels/situations require different tactics/setups/approaches, etc. So why bring a knife to a gun fight? When you can bring an .50 cal.

Adapt and overcome.

bumping , lf more players experienced/experts at war/guard/ele classes. Get ready for HoT Fractals!

After many arduous PUG runs, and some guild runs.. and restricting myself from spending them.. I have finally achieved my goal of 100k Fractal relics! pew pew!

Run Vid.

After all this, I’m still missing the fractal dagger… yay RNG!<

If you’re serious about fracts, hit me up.

120mb+ From what I saw today?

Many.. many many many MANY runs.. and I’ve yet to get the dagger..

I’m a seller, but not often I guess. Some ppl buy. but then, you get ppl who overprice FoTM (15g for a 40? you’re kidding) and I feel that it’s a rip off since they take 15-30mins to finish a full run casually.

Hi, yeah we (My norm team) doesn’t currently use engineers often on runs. The Guardian-Warrior-Elementalists usually provide the vulnerability we don’t even need. It’s an ok class, I don’t mind taking one in team nor do most of the other guildies nonetheless (They’re more casual than us). I can send an invite if you want.

Dusefight.2185:

Iris Ng.9845:

+6 and above infusions? I hope

there is no need for it unless we get higher fracs lvl.. if they dont open higher lvls but give rewards like higher infusions, there is a higher chance to get unexperienced players if u are running with randoms (Kappa) because they can run higher lvl cuz of more AR earlier..

That is a significant problem in the fractals of today. People getting carried to higher-lvl fracts due to the fact that Agony is easily accessible and screwing up the LFG-pool with
mediocre skills ( <10 might PS wars, P/P thieves, Scepter Guardians, etc in FoTM 50 )

Alot of kitten has ensued due to my friends/guildies/team and myself kicking people for garbage builds and setups noticed early-on and laughably inexperienced skill-lvls in runs posted as “Exp/Zerk/Expert/Know what you’re doing/Know how to play your class/PS war 20+ Might/Speed” posts at mid/high-ranged fractals.

Grats on full collection! Jelly

RNG Is a Cruel Mistress :S Oh shield and dagger.. where art thou..? Not alot of armor/weapon chests.. since.. I have 10+ Chars with 1-3 Full ascended sets each and full weapon sets @ 85+ AR. Also spent over 30-40k Fractal relics.

Ellye.9123:

Jockum.1385:

Since Anet failed to introduce new dungeons more and more players did dungeonpaths very often, get better and start to be more picky. After having done a dungeon like 100 times many players just want to finish the dungeon quick and are not willing to spend more time then necessary in it.

At that point I always wonder why people even bother still playing at all.
If my mentality in a game ever gets to a point like: “I just want to get this over with as fast as possible”, I’d question whether I was even really enjoying my time with the game. This is supposed to be entertainment, not work.

Don’t get me wrong, I’m just talking about myself specifically. Different people have different tastes.

Anyway, I tend to enjoy joining parties for people doing dungeons for their 1st time. They are the most enjoyable and fun parties, for me.

Because some people have higher goals like legendaries, or rare skins. Playing casually and taking 30 mins to complete simple content which they can do in 5-7 mins won’t get them there any sooner.

If anyone wants to bring up grinding vs “fun”, let me tell you. GW2 is nowhere NEAR as much a grind for ANYTHING compared alot of other games. We have it easy.

IrisTheCasual.3742:

Don’t be salty on me when I flame you with your abysmal addiction to a terrible weapon. Not that we ever get to play fractals anymore lately :\

On that note, yesterday I opened an LFG for “50, No underwater Mossman. No carry. No free ride”. The group was filled almost instantly. Under suspicion of some quick-fingered merge, I asked if any of the new comers actually read the LFG and what it was about. A guy answered me with: “Shut the f—- up, b—— and get on to it (the wisp)”. Without saying a thing, my friend and I entered our emergency protocol and abandoned the instance at once. The rude guy didn’t forget to chase after his victim (see pic below), only to meet with total annihilation. Body was burnt and ash scattered. So long.

Oh man, that name seems familiar.. It’s on my blocklist for some reason too.. He probbly got kicked from one of my team’s and Q_Q’d.

I’ts funny that people are commenting on a 2 y/o post. Bravo