Guild Wars 2

I totaly dont agree. Thiefs still can fight every other class (well, most of the other classes). Surely, as it is the most mobil class, thiefs often need to do the decaping and +1 fights, but there are still enough other jobs for the thief to be done. In unteamed ranked matches (yes, real teams fighting most times looks a bit differently) still a lot of thiefs start by sololy going far, with a lot of succes. Why shouldnt a thief 1v1? It has all the capabilities to do that.

I also play other classes, but thief or mesmer are the only ones I see the posibility to get oneshotted and both have enough skills to not get hit by this attack. If you play any other classes you will most likly survive this attack on full hp, even if you cant dodge it. If you consider the slow attack speed of the engi I dont think this skill is overpowered.

In fact, I personaly have a few probs on the engi since the cele isnt working that good anymore. Alltough this is not very meaningfull, as I dont play engi very often.

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Tux kitten inguin.3049:

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you can’t compare pvp to wvw
in pvp thief is ok, not good not bad, just ok
but in wvw thief is just a joke

No idea where I talked about wvw or somebody else did it before. I was talking about pvp as this is the pvp subforum. Talking about wvw, I dont think a thief was ever important for zerk action, small encounters or gvgs are again sth. different.

But again, if thiefs are “not good”, why does every single team have one. There are many classes that are not played in all teams (guardian, nec, ranger, war, engi). Problem in general is, a lot of players are only focusing on one player and another one can easily burst them. Surely, a thief playing like this will die very quickly in teamfights. It may be harder to play them than before, but thiefs still are powerfull and usefull. 1v1 2v2 3v3 4v4 5v5 for sure.

To the post before mine: Yes, the shortbow teleport is one of the main reasons thiefs are pretty important.

Zerkers and some Mauroduers can be oneshoted, but these engis also get killed quite fast. The only oneshot skill is easy to dodge. As thief I even have time to use shadowstep before the granades hit. So I think it is a l2p issue. Sure, you need to keep one dodge or another escape skill free from cd and a mesmer or war can daze you before the engi hits his granades, but thats part of the game.
I cant understand all those unbalanced posts. The game is pretty balanced considering the different mechanics the classes use. It’s the same after every patch, all ppl cry about the balance beeing gone, but still, after a few weeks you see the same players with the same classes on top of the game. I dont know a single class, I give up from beginning (me beeing the oponent). ((altough I need to agree that lot of pu-shatter mesmers are stronger than before the patch, cant say this about engis))

Can’t agree there. Directly after the patch I also had some problems. But right now, i am at the same point I have been before the patch. There are players from every class ich can beat 1v1 and also the other way around.
Thief may have less sustain than other classes, but that’s what the stealth and ports are for. I still like the thief at pvp. It has never been a face tank class and it never will be.
The point we still see them at every single match in the esl, is another sign its still a nice class and inside the meta.

Thanks a lot! Great info.

Btw, here is a quite usefull link about this topic. It will get even more usefull if you all update it
http://www.gw2dragons.com/guesting.html#/temples

I am desperately looking for an opened Temple of Balthazar in EU. I already kept my eyes opened the last few days, but couldn’t find one.
Otherwise I would suggest to meet each other at 18 UTC on one of the servers to open it. One hour should be time enough to finish before the new WVW-week starts.