Guild Wars 2

ele & ranger = heal condicleaner tanky cc damage and lots of pets

retaliation counters engi .

i used it with staff and also on S/D i know the radius of all my skills . u re faster than without this

engi ele guard mesma thief
engi ele guard mesma ranger
engi ele guard mesma ele

phantarantarantarantaram <3
but symbolic gonna bash my class QQ

Ostricheggs.3742:

Is there any chance at all that you can improve the current salvaging system?

My wrist hurts ;_;

i stopped salavaging xDDD

Vicarious.3047:

SwickHobo.5096:

Ele’s do not have the highest DPS as DPS. Nowhere near tbh. They do not have the highest sutain either. They can do both moderately well which is what makes them so good. On top of their mobility/group support of course. Ele’s aren’t really all that OP. They are powerful, and are currently the best class, but OP seems a bit of a stretch. IF you ever lose to an Ele in 1v1 combat its a L2 kitten ue on your part. It should always be a stalemate unless you are the squishiest of the squishies. My warrior can sit and tank an ele all day with no issues what so ever. and if a warrior can do it, anyone can.

Also HB is still one of the best ways to down an ele. Especially in teamfights. Any ability that can effectively drop his hp from 100-0 is a fantastic way to prevent healing. You just gotta bait out all of his 3 stun breaks in a 34 second period. Hard, but not impossible.

Freaking seriously?

Sure I’ll agree that eles do not have the highest damage output but it’s FAR from lack luster. If you’re not doing a lot of damage as a d/d ele then you’re simply playing it wrong.

Also 100B will never fully hit any opponent who isn’t a total scrub now that quickness is 50% speed increase, and if a warrior actually still uses that combo you can still take the knockdown and then move out of the way of the end of it, avoiding AT LEAST 25% of the total damage. On top of that you can literally 3 shot a warrior on frenzy as an ele due to the remaining 50% increased damage debuff.

“BUT DEY KAN UZE EDNUR PAAAAIN!”

Right, that means the warrior has no more utilities once you avoid his easy to avoid 100B combo and he also has near to none condi removal (if he actually just doesn’t have none, cause that’s very common as a warrior for many reasons).

Basically saying an ele can be killed by a 100B is a total lie, at least if we’re talking about the same lvl of play that the OP is.

Also did you seriously say an ele shouldn’t win a 1v1? Eles are THE BEST 1v1 class atm besides MAYBE mesmers.

If you’re tanky you can’t do enough damage to the constantly healing ele, if you’re condi damage the ele will almost instantaneously remove your condis, if you’re high burst the ele can stun break an insane amount of times plus squish you cause you’re a glass canon.

Eles are by definition Overpowered right now, everyone knows it besides people who only play ele or only play against bad players.

well on highest level also ranger engi mesmer are super 1v1 classes and if i say necro elite hitting 3-4k on me with my 13k health thats ridicilous….

i can counter engineer op build as well :P

Arheundel.6451:

Ultima.8673:

Empathetic Fighter.2065:

Ultima.8673:

maybe anet should ask some elementalists who made more than 2k tourneygames than a necroplayer. people cry about elebunker because it seems to be unkillable in a 1v1 ???? (engi will rip apart eles, good ranger can do the same…)

cantrip ele is not broken imo (many people just suck 1v1 and have no theorycrafting skills and play bad builds) …just buff warrior

Even Phantaram said the same Thing. If you wanna offend ppl then make sure you’re above their skill Level. Otherwise it’s just embarassing.

well phantaram was not making such a big show and he said it maybe needs lil fixing and he didnt say ele cantripbuild is totally broken. and besides of that phantaram plays a different role in his team than i do : he is more offensive roamer while i am more support/ tanky teambuild with ability to fight/hold a node and maybe win 1v1 2v2 situations >:D
and i think i play on the same skilllevel than phantaram so…

Would you agree on having a weapon set specifically for bunkering and another for pure dmg offensive role?
-switch cleansing wave (skill) with comet and change animations, making the new comet a PBaoe daze
In this way I think the weapon sets would have more defined role compared to know and both you adn Phantaram can keep play the ele in whichever way you want

nope cleansing wave is a great aoe heal /condiremover that daze is a joke keep it on focus. on high pvp noone plays focus nor staff because it is kitten compared to daggers damage, rtl and the healing and earthquake.
ele truely shines in a balanced build if u fix too much it becomes nothing —- a thief is still best roamer imo… and the role as support tanky healy with some damage as ele fits best for that class.. .

ele proper played = best allrounder if u like or not :P

and if players aren’t able to dodge a phoenix or dragonstooth or churning earth than i dont know what to say…

right atm mesmer ele ranger guardian, engi (<-perfect debunker) and thief are fine as they are … i dont know about necro because i dont play that class but i know for sure that warrior should get a buff to become again a roamer beast & corpse grinder .

funny part is when i started this game i wanted to be an offensive staffele but it really sucked to play staff in comparison to other classes

Empathetic Fighter.2065:

Ultima.8673:

maybe anet should ask some elementalists who made more than 2k tourneygames than a necroplayer. people cry about elebunker because it seems to be unkillable in a 1v1 ???? (engi will rip apart eles, good ranger can do the same…)

cantrip ele is not broken imo (many people just suck 1v1 and have no theorycrafting skills and play bad builds) …just buff warrior

Even Phantaram said the same Thing. If you wanna offend ppl then make sure you’re above their skill Level. Otherwise it’s just embarassing.

well phantaram was not making such a big show and he said it maybe needs lil fixing and he didnt say ele cantripbuild is totally broken. and besides of that phantaram plays a different role in his team than i do : he is more offensive roamer while i am more support/ tanky teambuild with ability to fight/hold a node and maybe win 1v1 2v2 situations >:D
and i think i play on the same skilllevel than phantaram so…

maybe anet should ask some elementalists who made more than 2k tourneygames than a necroplayer. people cry about elebunker because it seems to be unkillable in a 1v1 ???? (engi will rip apart eles, good ranger can do the same…)

cantrip ele is not broken imo (many people just suck 1v1 and have no theorycrafting skills and play bad builds) …just buff warrior

just to give a feedback when ladder was visible i was somewhere around around 30 then i started doing some soloqueue and lost like 3 – 4 games and now i am not top 100 XD. it is very very soloqueue unfriendly…

i saw a nice, funny and entertaining state of the elementalist done by helseth
u should watch it :
http://www.twitch.tv/helsethgw2/c/2118747

hey i am a mesmer : i can teleport a kittenING WHOLE PARTY from one point to another and i cry about eliminati wakakakakakakakaakakakakakaaaaaa

mesmer, ele and ranger are nice atm u cant balance them on everything : mobility heal damage etc…. because they do different roles and have totally different skills. or do u want 8 classes who do all the same…. how boring would that be. i love the skillsdesign of all classes . just a lil bit buff warrior. and game is nice… of course for nubplayers this game seems totally unbalanced but it isnt. i dont think classstacking especially with ele is that good only on spirit watch it is broken…
if u think necro is too slow/ weak than use teleportflashworm. necro has big healthpool and needs smart deathshroudmanagement if u play that class properly u can play it superglassy offensive but nubpeople just suck…..

can somebody of the officials confirm that anet gonna use glicko 2 rating system for pvp leaderboards ?

i am gonna cry now and maybe rethink about my gw2 eliminati career.

eu ele play mostly s/d….

cast people …. take people in ur fl who u know fulfill their roles best (of course u must have eyes on who is good and who not , or who makes mistakes and tell em that they made mistakes so they can improve… movement, targeting , holding a point):
for example: 1 bunker mid 2 roamer 1 closepointholder 1 healsupport

the best thief is suldaris; i saw him playing, carrying his team. doing right engages and disengages , stealing bosses , turning the tides, oneshotting the right dangerous targets and he has great teamability.

trust me i am an eliminati

the best thief atm is from germany;
his name is suldaris.

3 class meta >:’D

ele is weak:

little healthpool
low armor
so many buttons to press
so many positioning and movementskills
so predictable damageskills

yea but warrior needs a buff somehow…

it still continues :P
discuss

DON’T WORRY

when game gets customazible server . there will be players including me who wants to revive this pvpgame. i am dreaming on a weekly 2v2 or 3v3 or 5v5 deathmatch nodefight hold by the community. I would do something like this and if u can put some gold for the winners and do some records/ shoutcasts . this game becomes fun and really interesting to watch.

who doesnt want to see the best players competing in a 2v2 3v3 5v5?

attunements: all 4 mousekeys
1-5 skills = q23er (hello league of legends)
supportskills/cantrips = yxc
elite = v
heal = ^
mark target = 4
get marked target = t
look behind = g
nearest target = tab

HPLT.7132:

Ultima.8673:

ranger is one of the best classes. i know a rangerplayer who can play an imbalanced build (tanky healy for himself and mates, removing condis, doing damage ) which can beat my ele and all other classes 1v1. i think ranger is balanced on highest levels… people just need to figure out the opstuff (theorycrafting, timing, skill, experience, movement…) and make it shine….
ranger dont have rtl but they have also good movement skills

Don’t let this discuss in this thread. However I said that ranger is probably the best 1on1 class when using BM build but lack in team fights. Condi remove is done with healing skill and maybe the renewal signet (which should be used only in critical cases). Ranger is not able to heal teammates on its own…he just provides the water field(+regeneration). Mobility is good as it is.
And as i said BM is probably a little bit unbalanced but trapper is ok for know. If you fight against a skilled elementalist he will just stay out the traps and you cant stand a change. I did not say rangers are weak but they are not at top of the food chain :-).

well they shine also in 2v2 . all 30 sec 15 sec waterfield on the ground + eles 5 blastfinishers = this heals a lot in teamfight. they are strong fighting machines. and the game is about 3 point 2point capturing so u will have a lot of 2v2 3v3 1v1… of course mesmer will make snowballtactics due to portal but thats another story…. imo they should just buff longbow skills from ranger …

HPLT.7132:

Ranger is whether the strongest nor the weakest class. Someone showed a class pyramid in another thread, which pretty much describes the position of a ranger (Rank 3 together with guard and thief).
Trapper build is pretty balanced in my opinion. BM ranger is very powerful in 1vs1 but gets weaker in teamfights since the group support is very limited (except heal skill).
Currently I would use BM ranger just to have my mesmer at team fights, without heaving to fear that close gets backcapped.
With the new builds for engineers I see ranger will maybe get replaced by them because there are also capable to kill a bunker ele but have more group support due to aoe damage.

BTT: Nice survey. You got my vote.

ranger is one of the best classes. i know a rangerplayer who can play an imbalanced build (tanky healy for himself and mates, removing condis, doing damage ) which can beat my ele and all other classes 1v1. i think ranger is balanced on highest levels… people just need to figure out the opstuff (theorycrafting, timing, skill, experience, movement…) and make it shine….
ranger dont have rtl but they have also good movement skills

holy trinity … holy kitten :X

ele has lowest healthpool
ele has worst armor
ele dies within a thief’s burst
ele needs boons to shine ( are u all kittening stupid!!!!!! u dont know that u can counter heals with poisons, confusion)
ele needs knowledge
ele needs to switch all 10 sec attunements to shine ( are u kittening stupid !!! u dont know that u can increase the attunementswitching by 66% if u chill the ele::)
ele has a lot of predictable damageskills which needs timing and positioning
(i hate this slowly dragonstooth everybody can hear it and see the circle on the ground, churning earth wtf so long … u can interrupt it, blind, cc, dodge …phoenix …)

Why nerf it?
best counters are proper played engis necros maybe rangers very good mesmas and very good thiefs just overload the ele with a deadly mix of all condis and u will see him dieing

what i wan so hard:

-heart of the mists , spvp free2play

-arena 2v2 3v3 5v5

-visible rating , separated as teamqueuerating and soloqueuerating

-visible ladder (when community grows leagues a la sc: bronze silver platin gold diamond ….

-visible stats for spvp/ tourneys ( kills, damage per round, heal over time, interrupts, evades, dodges, blocks, skills used, points neutralized, points captured..)

-separate ladder: solopugger and teamqueue (if they separate it,on solopugger mode: many good players will play it and invite and help new unknown players on their ts and share some tactics, builds and roles they should play -> this will lead to a more helpful community and the community will grow and become better…)

-put money into the pvpsection for tournaments

-best players want fame; give it to them

-get ur money by selling things in pvpitemshop but only for optic: costumes, weapons, charappearance, new races ?…

-i wan 2 more maps: one should be a domination battlemode where u fight for only one node in the middle nothing else! blue starts in north and red in south . it will result in big teamfights on the node alltime

-and make a fun map in king of the hill game mode

-observermode which will lead to nice streamcasts a la guildsource , guide, more viewers…

-customizable server: so u can make them into deathmatch games or team squad deathmatch from battlefield ( 4 teams fight each other on a big map and hides behind buildings etc…)

-weekly tournaments: 2v2 3v3 5v5 hold by community or arenanet

-pvptutorial for each class

-my ele should get a 5th attunement and i wan play ele with greatsword

mesmer: high burst super aoe, boonremoval, tricky class, confumaker, clones where enemyplayer looses mesmertarget, some invincible skills, timewarp & rezthingy, portal

ele: tough/healy, mobile, predictable damage over time(or u play bursty build) shines with boons , needs good skillorder cc mightstacks, buffchar

both are great classes

i still have faith in da dev of pvp. plx gimme observermode, visible rating , ladder, real money prices for tourneys … maybe 3v3 4v4 5v5 2v2 arena ? and separate soloqueue pugs from premades…

Fella Feller.4936:

King of 1v1 isn’t ele (assuming running away isn’t an option), It’s Mesmer.

As skilled mesmer should destroy pretty much any ele 1v1.

Back on topic : I’d like to see the extreames of both bunker and burst brought down a little. Just adding more dps will mean that the only viable builds are extreame burst, or (depending on how much more dps) extreame bunker. That’s only going to hurt build variety more, not increase it.

are u sure. tell me the name of the mesmer i gonna try that out

to be honest the dps is fine as it is . it is just the players skill who can destroy bunker builds. if u not paying attention to a thief he can oneshot u as bunkerele… mesmer thief warrior burst high. of course bunker is designed not to die in any 1v1 …. if u face good bunker player u will never be able to kill bunker only if the bunker player makes mistakes… and eleclass the burst is so kittening predictable that u can dodge it blindly u can hear the animations of dragons tooth: u dont need to watch on screen….

but to be honest not the burst classes nor the full bunker classes are op : X

updraft , earthquake , best heals condicleaner and mightstacks for warrior . if they combine each others skill = bämmmm warrior is tough while getting protection regeneration swiftness from ele

warrior + ele synergizes well

mesmer op: high burst + invincible

the most op build i have as an ele muhahahaaa i wont tell anyone. anet has no clue about eles and most players also have no clue how to play properly ele. 99% of ele play with 70% potential of elementalist class…

counter it with a good shattermesma or thief…

Purie.9046:

Why there has to be solo que in the first place or team que.

What I mean is there should be only 1 “Find Match” Button

IF you que alone. You SHOULD only get solo quers. Who want’s to solo que into premades and get stomped? This is basically free tournaments again.

IF you que with few mates(2-3). You SHOULD get few players that qued together aswell or solo quers. NOT PREMADES

IF you que with Premade. You SHOULD get only premades and if theres none. match them with other quers after that. It should only be last resort though.

Everything should include MMR. Nobody likes uneven team(Even solo que). Rank 10’s don’t prolly wanna play with rank 50’s and other way around.

Not that hard anet is it? and everyone would be happy…

yea make rating visible . i want it like purie. u should separate teampremades vfrom soloqueuers it is too unfair for the random people. the skill and knowledge of premades is far beyond better than from pugs. ( engaging, disengaging, tactics, teleports, when to fight and where…) if u have one weak player u cannot be competitive vs premades… separate them also if the community is small.

i am fine with the patchnotes. now plx implement private server / observermode / ladder / elo

i made a graphic of superior classes

gonna enlarge this list:
some players in my former teams just went inactive or playing another game:
Team Jokers, Team rock paper ranger, team clowns on coca …….

i am still looking for a team with master of their classes . i wan rated soloqueue so hard

plx separate soloqueue from teamq so u never will fight premades in soloqueue but then u will play with people of ur same rating that would be awesome …
and of course u need a ladder for teamq and soloq. separate soloqueue will rez guildwars 2. so plx don’t let gw 2 be stomped by stupid people…. u already made good comparisons to league of legends… observermode must come, free servers where u can train, maybe a 2v2 3v3 4v4 5v5 arena ?? and then polish the maps/classdesigns …

soloqueue attracts new players which leads to new talents and new groups/ more competition.

AGAIN SEPARATE SOLOQUEUE AND TEAMQUEUE nobody wants to play solo with randooms vs a premade group ….

if u re not gonna separate soloqueu from teamqueue then i know why u do this : because gw2 lacks the playerbase atm. there are too little numbers of players playing pvp in the mists.

hey soloqueue would be nice and makes it for me easier to find a very very good mesmer for my team….

go play ele on offensive mode with staff and play vs a decent thief or any other good dps . I (600+qp)played staff offensive in svanir ninjas (free and paid tourneys) and it was unplayable vs very good teams… u wont have any chance. sry to say but if they take ele healing and aoe away the class will be crippled. the ele is atm best at his role : fast bunker,solo far point assaulter, best heal ingame. as a a roamer i will always prefer thief and mesmer above an ele…. so destroy ele… if they gonna destroy ele i will start playing thief .. from 14 buttons to effective 7 buttons…

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no mobility ?: maybe u should use ur rush and bull’ s charge like rtl, u also have whirlwind attack and savage leap. warrior has a high burst especially when the burst is covered with cc (burstskill from sword? bullscharge as knockdown? throw bolas? teammates cc)
warrior is designed to be weak vs conditions. warrior(tough &bursty) + ele (healy condi-remover tough stacking might+cc) will have a great synergy . in a teamfight warrior can be great. if he gets focused he can use his block and endure pain and disengage the fight with movementskills. heal up and come back….

and what i like most about warrior they are desecrators of corpses: u wanna rez ur mate u can taste some 100000 blades

kirei + helseth destroy u in 4 sec (4 people…no comment)

what is a bunker ? a bunker can hold a point forever vs 1 class but dies to 2 dps and does little or no damage. a bunker should never die in 1v1 thats how they are designed…

mesma and thief can kill ele fast …
if 2 dps are not able to kill a bunker then they suck

if u wanna nerf bunkerele u have to fix all bunkerclasses and if u do this u have to lower the burst classes especially thief and mesma and if u nerf too much then there will be no bunkers anymore .

me : kirei
most feared: mesmas
last feared: ranger
NA: kirei