Guild Wars 2

JPSnow.8296:

Only 11 points out ATM and closing fast so you never know may be this week

Only 9 points away from SoS’s rating right now. Isn’t this exciting?

Pretty much what jhuce & Ascii said.

Vilkata.4725:

At least in Warhammer you could block fall damage if you had a shield.

On the other hand, in Warhammer you could die from getting stuck on a blade of grass.

Yeah people did a great job of mobilizing our own population to fill our coverage gap over the last few days, but a lot of this is people getting up early or staying up late which is something they won’t be able to do consistently… so we’re still looking for those reinforcements to Fort Awesomewood!

ShaunZ.1098:

nalenb.1425:

Chris.5024:

5 hours without a post? What’s going on here?

People are bored with WvW and GW2?

Need to make it fun for yourself! Here’s how [NERF] rolls in WvW

1) Get a group of [NERF] Engineers on TS
2) Find an enemy zerg (must outnumber you at least 5 to 1)
3) Don’t listen to reason … charge in and throw everything you have in the air
4) Die horribly while laughing with the TS group
5) Laugh again as the sad person in the zerg types /laugh on his lonely keyboard

[NERF] in action is super funny to watch

+1 on the bug here, annoying as hell.

This is some seriously lame kittens. WvW guilds & players get shafted again.

Yeah I play on FA from europe and lag/latency really isn’t an issue at all.

Lol. Taking bets on what Bunzy & OG will whine about next.

Pinko.2076:

FA relies on superior numbers way too much. From defense, offense, down to individual builds. It’s no skin off our back, but FA keeps jabbering about t2 this, t2 that. You guys still have a lot of room for improvement.

Agreed, the thing is we aren’t likely to see that improvement come in this tier. Also, our wvw population will probably drop again if we move up to tier 2 because more people come out to play when you’re winning.

Farout.8207:

…
Both DB and Mag are in a pretty crappy spot. Overpowered servers above us and underpowered below.

Same goes for FA and probably TC too.

kfarb.6732:

How many commanders are on FA? In all the screenshots and in-game I never see less than 3. Maguuma has periods of hours where we have 0 or 1.

When everyone has an icon, is it just a status thing at that point? I mean I’ve seen seen d/d eles with icons, which has got to be the most useless class to have an icon on.

A lot. I think PRO alone has something like 7 people with the tag, although not all of them have it on all the time. You generally learn to follow those that suit your playstyle pretty quickly.

Maguuma we left you some ram art in your hills keep.

Quenta.2978:

Did someone say badge farming?

This still makes me laugh so hard. <3 Quenta’s vids.

Huge.5891:

FA trying to backcap Mags @ DB keep in eternal tonight.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZTxpiL51ig

..dat framerate o.O

Skapocalypse.5236:

Monkish Delights.2591:

You know whats funny mag and db? FA is still winning no matter what you say or how much you complain that we are. So in other words we’re in your keeps taking your ppt and there is nothing you can do to stop us xD

Congrats you have more people in your server then the other two servers especially more kiddies that are still in school since today on a holiday it seemed FA had their entire server at a time where its normally empty. When you go back up to Tier 2 eventually and get stomped again because Kain and BG have more people then you then you’ll understand how it feels. Vicious cycle of WvW.

Believe me we know, we were in a similar situation as you are now for months against TC. Which is why i feel the chest thumping by certain FAers is out of place as the main reason we’re winning is population and, to a lesser extent, coverage.

Using gears or the spikeroot thing is pretty much admitting you suck at playing your class.

ParaldaWind.4523:

John Widdin.9618:

http://protectmaguuma.com/

Well this is certainly something. A friend just linked me this, after us first seeing them announcing a toughness buff at a tower over team chat. Anyone else have more experience with these fellows? What are they all about?

I disagree with them being the largest Maguuma Alliance…

We don’t have a fancy website, but Legion Alliance has over 1500 members, and consists of the guilds PYRO, EVOH, GOA, TTK, ME, NOVA, RMNT, FFL, and SCRB. We mostly just coordinate on reset night and some other times throughout the week, but we can queue two borderlands if we all show up.

I know that TRA (The Raven Alliance) also has over 600 active members, and they’re really good.

It’s unfair for one alliance to call themselves, “the largest and most powerful but also the most prestegious (sic) Guild Wars 2 alliance on the Maguuma server,” because it simply is not true.

It actually says second largest on the site.

What’s with TC being all nice in this thread. Where’s the yak-death fueled hate, where’s the grudges.

OldRodKS.9758:

Tearofsoul.9843:

Oh no, it is the “portal bomb”, AKA “culling bomb” …

Speaking of which… my level 46 mesmer did her first portal bomb yesterday. Despite dropping the exit portal a few feet short of your catapults, it succeeded in stopping FA from catapulting Lake wall… Mummy would be so proud

Good fights so far this week (when I can get in… kitten queues!)

Hehe I know that feel, it’s nice

Jayne.9251:

Any server new to a tier will supply the highest yield of rating. We experienced that when we entered T2. Both SoR and BG came after us because it meant they’d get better ratings .. it wasn’t personal (in most cases), it was just what needed to be done.

FA coming into T2 will likely experience this same thing. Not because it’s personal, but because math-wise, hitting the third place server will yield the greater results.

…except ratings are being reset at the start of this match.

This thread disappoints. Wednesday already and only at 557 posts.

Nocturnal Lunacy.8563:

Chalky.8540:

Um…no. No No No! FA is not playing better. FA has numbers and that’s all it is. Nothing else. I have stopped counting every time I’ve taken down a solo FA player or 2 or 3 or 4 at once with a Mesmer. C’mon you should easily be able to take down a Mesmer with more than one player. And I’m not even that good, well let me take that back I am good to a point. My main problem is I have a condition where the joints in my fingers get this fluid build up and makes it hard to move them at times which makes my response and skill activation slow.

— I’d like to talk about skill and character freezing up.
It’s funny, but all my char are level 80 and thru PvE, PvP, and playing other servers I have not had the issue with my char or my skills freezing up on me. Just recently over the past couple weeks tho this has been an issue but only fighting against FA. Not when fighting Maguuma, or Ehmry Bay. Only against FA. I don’t know what is going on and I’m not blaming anyone and I’m not making accusations, I’m just telling you what I experienced. You can take it as you please it’s a free country. I will also say that it’s not all FA, I have noticed its when I’m fighting certain FA players. One is a Ranger and one is an Elementalist. But it seems to be happening more and more almost as if it happens about every other confrontation with FA.
Maybe my char is bugged, maybe anything. If anyone else has experienced this and don’t want to blame it on lag well let me know. Cuz if it was lag or whatever, then this would happen against Maguuma and all the other servers we’ve fought against.
Sorry to make this so long but I remember we were at the FA keep the other night and of course my char and skills froze, and as I lay there dead, I noticed an FA warrior, ele, and thief start bugging. And by that I mean their chars started blinking in and out, shaking, kind of like you think a char in any game that is bugged would react. And it was these 3 that came at us particularly the warrior flew by me so fast it looked like an ink blot going by. To describe more precisely in detail how fast, when an ele hits ride the lightening there is no time to react. Now imagine a warrior going twice that speed and that’s how fast these 3 were moving and immediately my char froze and while I lay there dead those 3 started glitching.

Sounds like lag/bad connection to me. Some of our aussie & kiwi members tend to blink around the place a lot too on account of their interwebs being made of tin cans, twigs and bits of string.

Speaking for myself and I think quite a few others, I have no desire at all to move up to tier 2. We´re having a good even fight this week that I wouldnt mind continuing for a few more.

EnRohbi.2187:

Now,
I acknowledge from the start of this post that what I’m saying are outside observations.

You may have started receiving guilds on thursday before reset,
But I think the bulk of the transfers came in over the weekend.

There was such an increase in FA’s effectiveness in wvw by the end of the weekend that it could not be something as simple as “We had more on reset and ran out of steam”. Especially since I can tell you that DB generally picks up steam during the week, we’re very used to starting matches in 3rd place and then picking up to 1st on Monday/Tuesday.
…

FA has a similar history in score development, where we pick up steam as the week goes along.. we had a few great comebacks where we made up 30k or more over the course of the last few days of the matchup.
I’ll admit we have had another few guilds join us over the past week, but the bulk of the transfers that are visible to me in WvW came before the reset.
More interesting is that with the arrival of our new friends guilds both old and new to the server seem to be cooperating a lot more then before.

That nerdpickles site is awesome.

..and as of right now all servers are listed as Very High, plenty of room for everyone and their friends!

Looks like server caps have been temporarily increased as all servers are now listed as very high.

CHIPS.6018:

You can expect major queue wait times in SoS, JQ, SoR, BG and FA. Maguuma, CD and DB would probably be slightly better. Kaineng would probably have the least wait time of them all, specially if you play in NA prime times. And these 9 servers would be T1-T3 in the foreseeable future.

All in all, if queue time is a big turn off for you, your best bet would be Kaineng.

Actually FA has a max queue of about 10 minutes on 1 map in NA primetime.

DB is a tough opponent and judging by the matchup scores i’m guessing YB arent going to roll over either. Tier 3 will be watching next week’s tier 4 matchup with interest.

soistheman.7208:

Watch out! Based on what I know from fighting against DB last week (hello I’m with Yak), when Maguuma moves up in your tire I think they will beat you. We are getting our kitten kicked pretty bad right now… (>_<)

Both CD and FA are pretty tough and shouldn’t be underestimated. It’s going to be an interesting match.

Afaik the best level 80 aquabreather in the game is the Gavebeorn breather, available at Gavebeorn’s waypoint in Orr. You’ll need to slot another rune of the set you’re using in your armor to get the 6-piece bonus underwater as well if i’m not mistaken.

Ninein.4782:

Maguuma: 4 map queue reset, 2 map queue NA primetime, 0 map queue offhours
FA: 4 map queue reset, 3.5 map queue NA primetime, 1.5 map queue offhours

Kaineng can fill in the blank for comparison.

The FA part of this isn’t right, it’s more like:
3 map queue reset, 1, maybe 2 map queue NA prime, 0-1 map queue off hours. And even then queues are never longer than 15 minutes, except maybe on reset night.

Edit: queue is such a weird word.

Drunk dueling, should be funny as kittens

15 character score update:

Arcadio.6875:

I wonder how the weekdays will affect scoring. In the past few days (including today), DB is relatively strong compared to FA/CD starting 8am EST. On Saturday, FA took the potential point lead back right before 4pm EST. On Sunday, 12pm EST.

FA hasn’t taken it back yet and the fact that our NA players can’t play all day like on the weekends won’t help. This seems to be the only span of time DB is able to make gains against FA. Who is playing right now? Asians? Europeans?

it´s 1800 in mainland europe at the time of this post, so europeans I think.

KrazyFlyinChicken.5936:

…
… I firmly believe that the way things are headed—Fort Aspenwood is on their way to tier 2. …

I think any movements up or down the tiers for any of our 3 servers are largely dependent on what happens in other tiers and how other servers evolve. At the moment Maguuma, Kaineng and to a lesser extent SBI are likely going to be a deciding factor in how the top 4 tiers pan out.
Personally i´d be fine with this matchup being prolonged for at least a number of weeks; any grudges aside the fights are pretty awesome all around.

Isaac.6041:

RockonHarder.7235:

Mada.5319:

At this rate, Maguuma will be in T3 next week and either FA or DB will be dropping :o

Look at the scores again and say that…. DB is in the lead. we have intentions of going anywhere.

According to the rankings site, Maguuma is scheduled to be team green in tier 3 next week.

It’s much too early in the week to say anything about how the rankings will pan out by friday.
Great fights all round so far and it’s looking to be an exciting week for all servers!

Nice vid, but i’m interested to see if your guild remembers these strategies & formations in the heat of battle, as i’ve rarely seen anything this coordinated in action.

Arcadio.6875:

Less than one point separates the three servers.

There is one problem though. The current rating section is wrong. They used to update those whenever Anet released the actual ratings, but it seems they haven’t done that this time. So the projected ratings, even if the scores were as up-to-date as possible, would still be inaccurate.

You’re right, the differences between the current ratings posted by Anet and those posted on mos are small, within 0.5 of a point for all 3 servers (IoJ, FA, DB) but with projected ratings as close as they are that half point can make all the difference..

Isn’t this exciting?

For myself I think the worst-case scenario would be if everything stayed exactly as it currently is. I’d really like to be a different color for a change, feels like we’ve been red forever now.

score update:

Foss.4830:

selan.8354:

Hekatombaion.4320:

KrazyFlyinChicken.5936:

And certainly not because there’s a dozen commanders who independently make decisions about what to attack on a given day. No. That’s not how it works at all.

If they independently keep choosing CDBL (minus the automatic few in EB) next week the couple dozen commanders on CD might independently decide to deny FA points until you’re pushed out of the tier.

You’ve seen a couple of nights now what we can do when we feel motivated enough to make it happen. As I’ve said before this has been an escalating cycle of retaliation. FA’s big guilds and commanders need to look at this and ask themselves “is this the ceiling or can they do something even worse?”
From my perspective the smart move seems to be for red to always have or be pushing for at least one keep in IoJBL. Keep CD running mostly on pug power instead of concerted guild efforts with a specific FA priority.

Wow you really sound like TC right now, but tell you what. Even though u guys have a massive population atm with a high presence in wvw, you are nothing like TC and shouldn’t have a chip on your shoulder like that. Guilds from both IOJ and FA are still able to destroy your zergs with like half of the people your zerg has. If you feel sooo much above everyone that u wanna play “wvw tier 3 god”, go ahead, but don’t cry if IOJ and FA aren’t playing by your rules, because we wont.

Its okay. they’re in for a rude awakening when they move up to T2.

Ugh. If CD move up that would mean TC would move down again and i really don’t feel like facing those roleplaying dolyak-lovers again..

dekyos.1548:

kreese.9461:

flame rams seem to stay around forever though

Yeah rams should disappear before any other siege. They are only useful for doors, and are NEVER used defensively. So once the tower/keep is taken, they just sit there until someone from another side takes the time to destroy them (which they shouldn’t if they don’t have to as it takes up slots).

This isn’t entirely true; the fear on the flame ram 2 skill can be very useful for defending trebs set up on the cliff edge at Astral to hit Hills keep for instance.

Akumetsu.8591:

just going to throw down spvp is pretty balanced i see every class in paids now performing well. Also then as i said wvw should have a completely different gear set. all im saying is its unfair that pve players get a gross advantage over spvp players that want to go into a different part of the game. Getting the ranks to get good gear in spvp takes a long time and getting paid gear means you are very good. but as a player wanting to try out a different aspect of the game it just makes me sad that one group can go in between the 2 modes and the other cannot.

If you’re really as good as you claim to be you’ll have a full set of karma exotics in no time at all.

kylia.4813:

Diehard.1432:

What is PRO doing in our world?

Screenshot with the guild name please, not just the TAG. GW2 allows multiple guilds to have the same TAG.

:)

Heh, that is our guild, not sure what the deal is. Something about him being a follower of our commander Lady Sayrah’s stream or wanting to hunt him I think. Rest assured, he isn’t spying; wouldn’t be very smart to display our tag on your server with a guild name like The Protectorate of Aspenwood

Riddickk.7091:

Just wanted to give some props to those who were defending FABL today. Good fights and good job on watching your keeps/towers. (PRO guild)Definitely spoiled a few ninja attempts from us. Even though we were outmanned the majority of the time we still kept trying to be a thorn in your side. I hope we earned your respect especially after a group of 10 of us were able to fend off 30-40 FA trying to recapture Greenvale via waypoint spawn rushing for the better part of an hour approx 4:30-5:40 est. Gave us a chance to showcase our strategy and tactics against a numerically superior force.

Yeah you guys are pretty nasty

To the [KH] sub 80 warrior I fought on my own sub 80 warrior outside Durios just now, that was pretty funny: both downed, both vengeanced and then both died at the same time

This matchup is awesome. So many good fights, so much fun

I think a lot of the issues with the apparent lack of communication on what’s being done for WvW could be solved if Arenanet started a WvW test server, where they could roll out ideas and possible changes for people to try out and test, and adapt them based on user experience and feedback before going live on the real servers.

DivineBeing.2086:

And we had people from FA tell us we are only numbers with no skill….

Where are those people now? Told you TC wasn’t trying as hard as you think we were against CD and FA xD.

You really only read what you want to read, don’t you?
Let me explain it one last time: most of the comments (trolls aside) were not that you are all numbers with no skill, they were commenting on the fact that you generally had more WvW players than both other servers combined. When you can field that kind of numbers, skill is much less of a factor than if populations were more balanced.
That being said, with IoJ taking your place in tier 3 it’s now fairly obvious to me that you guys have a very good understanding of “greater picture” battle mechanics, which is supported by how you’re currently doing in tier 2. Good to see TC can walk the walk as well as talk the talk
Looking at the match threads and scores for both tier 2 and tier 3 and playing in tier 3 myself, I think we can safely say that everyone is better off and happier with the new matchups.

ykyk.2740:

Arcadio.6875:

A lot of people are unaware TC is gone.

Edit: Hey your signature is similar to mine!!!

We can’t be that hated… =/

Not so much hated as that people were getting bored of the same predictable matchup and battles I think; I know I was at least.
Good & fun fights so far!

ScornofLife.3109:

Arrr, dis ‘ere be Sol Ace o’ da Shipwrecked Pirates an’ we see ye nancy boys got yer panties in a bunch o’er some Portal and Catapult usage tonight.

Yarrr har har, ye lubbers an’ yer milksop ways, cryin’ as ye wish when somethin’ not be goin’ yer way.

Pirates an’ Jesters wanted some fun, found some fun, won some and lost some booty, pillaged and plundered while ye lubbers jus’ wondered! Friend o’ mine, foe o’ yers needed to see some places fer her sight, so we all set sail to vanquish her plight!

Garrison, Cliffside were both pirated and taken this night, Longview had defenders which stayed and actually watched over, protectin’ it as ye should… this is why it was also not taken.

A Catapult agains’ a wall will not let ye lubbers know wit’ yer magic map that yer tower be under assault, ye actually need to watch fer points that are vulnerable to attack mateys…this is how you prvent piracy and smuggling, vigilance!

I see yer magic pictures o’ us, me an’ me crew inside yer fancy lads castle, tiower, whate’er ye wish to call it! I’m not quite sure how we be walkin’ through solid rock, I can recall a few times we fell off da cliff to our deaths! …followed by many more o’ ye lubbers to be keelhauled by piratesm, jesters or da sharp rocks an’ snow below.

If ye’ve a problem feel free to speak, but der be no unfair advantage we be usin’ that ye yerselves could not. No walls were walked through, nor flown o’er lads, so quit yer belly achin’ and defend yer points a bit better!

Were this wolrd o’ Tyria to have hooks and ropes, da likes of which be used at sea to hold fast a pirated vessel for the takin’ of the booty…yer lack of defense and wathcful guard would hurt ye much more than it does.

Demoncow, if ye be Rhose o’ Pink I talked wit’ ye and asked fer any input if we were so doing.

Potectorate of Aspenwood lads…we had some good fights and we won and lost good soldiers on bot’ our sides, so why ye gots to be makin’ up lies?

Small scale and stealth assault is not dead in this world, piracy can happen if ye don’t be careful and defend what is yers. Be not upset ye lost it but aware fer da nex’ time!

Yarr har har, peace to all ye lubberous dogs, yer mudder does a better job watching fer ye to come home while she’s swabbin’ me main mast then ye do watching for enemies at some o’ yer towers!

No lies, most of your exploiting was frapsed and the people doing it reported through in-game reporting as well as mail to exploits@arena.net. Personally i hope they all get a permaban but i’m not holding my breath.