Can you repost the Spvp/W3 build there as well so it’s easy to find? May as well put everything together. I will honestly try them out if I haven’t already used them. I sitll think that no matter what we need A LOT of work as a class but I’m willing to give you the benefit of the doubt that these builds will make a difference. As for my play style, I don’t have one. I adapt to be as good as possible with what I have. What I would want to have isn’t working and it’s frustrating… This is why I’m here. We can’t always have what we want but I feel like there are some gross errors that do need fixing as they were meant to be a part of our class and are not working at all.
PS: As I said in another post, I do appreciate that you’re willing to ‘’show numbers’’ unlike someone else who was just being an elitist and refused to do anything but tell people they must suck.
I’m out for now but I’ll be back. Hurray..OR not? lol
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Why don’t you go post your builds for pve and pvp in the build area if you think that your builds are making a huge difference? I’m not trying to be mean btw. I’m saying who knows maybe you know something no other ranger has thought of. I doubt it but maybe…If I haven’t tried them yet, I will.
But lets face it, we have to do a lot more work to find these alternatives than some classes like war and thief. If these classes are where the devs want them to be, we’re nowhere near that. Saying that we are is a lie. We can be good with some work but not great like they are. Put two amazing players together and the ranger will come under.
Well it was better than your posts that’s for sure.
But in answer, I don’t think anyone is saying we’re so horrible that we can’t play the game. We’re just pretty underpowered in many situations compared to the lovechild that is the warrior. We need A LOT of fixes. I think the SB and the lies about it were the final straw for many. I’m still playing my ranger so obviously he has qualities. It doesn’t mean that I’m going to see pink and try to tell others that everything is great and if they disagree they must suck.
Out of substance? Kind of like your main argument of ‘’you must suck at your class?’’ loltastic. You’re narcissistic and like to hear yourself. You love to think that you’re better than most. Good for you. You’re totally amazeballs at a game. WOOP WOOP! The rest of us humble humans are asking for fixes. Kthanx!
They are an amazing 1v1 class, Mid-level bunker, awesome in team fights (entangle, QZ rez, stuns to stop stomps, massive aoe’s, great direct damage), and they are awesome roamers (Warhorn + they can burst well).
The only classes that give them trouble are thiefs/mesmers in which case they can still be dealt with.
You honestly must be terrible if you think they are the worst class against any 1v1 matchup.
Mesmers destroy them 1v1. *It’s even if you know how to build/play your class.
Thieves destroy them 1v1. *It’s even if you know how to build/play your class.
Engineers destroy them 1v1. Rangers have an edge, especially considering most engi builds are oriented around dealing damage via aoe drops (e.g. rangers don’t need to stand in them)
Necros destroy them 1v1. Necros are very easy to kill (only 1 build that is annoying, and even then, it’s situational)
Warriors kinda even battle. *With the right CC, warriors are easy mode
Guardians destroy them 1v1. *Taking a point from a bunker is tough, but if you sit back and kite/kill them it is quite easy. In a 1v1 battle though where a ranger can kite (if you’re just speaking of dueling 1v1, this is an easy mode fight)
Elementalist kinda even battle. *Ele is fairly even, although they, in my opinion, need a slight DPS boost.Any other class except warrior out bunkers them. * I agree, mid-level class, e.g. average bunker.
They are decent in teamfights like I said, nothing exceptional. Yes they got pretty good direct damage and some aoes but thats about it. Not like they have a huge aoe 10 second haste to the team or a aoe 8-10k burst heal. *You’re missing their stuns/leaps/aoe fears from pets, QZ + rez, or QZ + stomp, stability, etc.
They are pretty bad roamers, very limited mobility (lol a warhorn?) * *Yes, a warhorn, I don’t use it in combat, but I switch to it, blow #5, then hard switch it out from my weapons rotation****** compared to mesmers and thieves. They have mediocre burst compared to other classes. Thief/mesmer/warrior(warhorn power?) will all outburst them
I don’t really know what to say anymore. Your counter arguments are really really stupid. Watch or talk to any people who know what they talking about, preferably r30+.
Tied for worst/second worst bunker in the game = mid level bunker? lol. /facepalm
I don’t even want to try anymore. Look at your own arguments, they contradict yourself and are very very stupid.
What a good counter argument – “You’re dumb”. Isn’t that a bit contradicting itself? =/
Yet it’s the argument you’ve been using all night telling people they suck.
This is the only site I checked out. Not great but ya..
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AvhZ2ONOkmJwdG44RU15ZlZxQWdXeDg5SjlpZk9FclE#gid=0
Yes like f2 doesn’t work but there’s a way around it. However, f2 is meant to do this. So it’s all good as long as there’s a way to do it even if the actual way to do it isn’t working properly… I’m sorry but I like things to work. I will use any tricks and explored my class fully in order to counter as many bugs and issues as possible but it doesn’t mean that I will be happy with it. I want things working. In the meantime, yes I will work with everything that I have. It would be stupid not to.
-1 to you. Actually -2 mister the nerf was unintended
They aren’t gonna explain it. They think we’re pretty slow you see and that they could just call it an animation bug and that we wouldn’t notice. They changed the notes since but we all know what they did…
This guy likes to hear himself talk and call people bad players. At least the other guy who thinks the nerf was no biggy is trying to show numbers/proof. I still disagree with him but he’s respectable nonetheless.
You were wrong about the SB nerf being unintentional. I’m going to wager that you’re wrong about other things ;p
I think they already tested it man. They said it was just swell! That’s what JonPeter’s last post on here said anyhow…
I agree that it should all be moved to the same thread. You can post wherever you want. Freedom of speech. However, I think you need to stop telling people that they suck. It’s not really an argument. It’s just you being an kitten
The SB nerf was INTENTIONAL. They said it in the ranger threads. They even changed the patch notes since. They tried to lie to us calling it an animation bug which nobody had experienced. Then they nerfed SB thinking we would be fooled. That was the worse part for most of us and why many are upset.
Considering all the issues that the class has, I think that nerfing it was quite stupid. Fixing issues to give people more options would be much more intelligent. There are A TON of build I’d LOVE to play and run them in my mind but alas they have a bug or are not working as intended or…
Ok. I consider myself an above average player too. I think this nerf was unwarranted. You made your point, most people disagree with it.
You mean like thief or warrior ;p
I think we all tried many different builds. We’re not such a horrible profession that we can’t play the game but we need some help. There is only you and docmed spreading the idea that we’re fine. I think that speaks volumes.
I think this person’s answer is relevant. They showed what traits they liked on the ranger which pushed them into using the ranger… Most of us liked some of the traits and paired it with the best weapon, the SB.
If it’s so great, you don’t need to self promote. People will go to your thread on their own.
Self-promote? LoL, as if I could give 2 shhiittts about that! I simply didn’t want to bother restating my entire summary about this again in a relevant, but separate, topic.
Then why are you posting in most topics that are against the recent nerfs? You made your argument in your thread which not many agree with as you can see. I’m seeing maybe 2 people calling hundreds of other players bad players if they disagree with the nerf. We get it. You think we suck and you think rangers are fine. You made a thread about it. If we want to read it, we will.
If it’s so great, you don’t need to self promote. People will go to your thread on their own.
Luigi, don’t tell Seven he/she’s wrong, they will FREAK out!!
I also agree that wars are not OP. Other classes just need to be brought up to their level.
Buff a few other classes, except thieves and warriors.
That will make it even and fair to everyone.
Pretty much what everyone is saying. +1
My point is you don’t really have a point because you don’t know how they work internally. You just made a bunch of random posts about how they work. First they are working on it then two teams do this and that… You’re a bit of a storyteller, no? But you seem to be getting upset too. If you need to have the last word to feel better, I’ll let you have it. Tell me how it all works and I’ll agree :-)
Fixing issues should be a much bigger priority than nerfing.
These aren’t usually done by the same team.
If the head doesn’t know what the tail is doing, then we have much bigger problems than the bugs and nerfs…
A lot of classes have reasons to nag. Atm, wars and thiefs are pretty well balanced. The rest have issues. A lot of them. Ranger is one of the worse and so are eles.
Sure, but why do you think devs are not doing anything about this? It’s not a matter of blind faith, GW1 had weekly updates for its whole life. There was an Elementalist balance just a few weeks ago! The game is a month old, there will be_lots_ of nerfs and buffs until things are somewhat balanced.
As per Anet, Wars are pretty much exactly where they want the game to be. Nerfin a class that was already much weaker isn’t a good start. If you read the wiki pages even from gw1, there are a lot of people pointing out that the devs didn’t seem to know how their own game worked. Fixing issues should be a much bigger priority than nerfing.
Read the Mesmer forums, everyone there is complaining. Or read the Elementalist forums, they’re pretty unhappy too. Or read any class forum on any MMO ever. Players always complain that their class is too weak and whine about nerfs, it’s just how it is.
Luckily devs have access to actual data from which to determine if a class is losing too much in PvP, or dealing too little damage, or not being played, or whatever. GW1 had a pretty good balance record (in PvP at least), so I trust Anet to balance these things out over time.
We had to explain them how the nerf was more than 7%. No offense but if you’re putting your unwavering faith into the devs, you’ll be disappointed. A lot of classes have reasons to nag. Atm, wars and thiefs are pretty well balanced. The rest have issues. A lot of them. Ranger is one of the worse and so are eles.
I suggest you go read the thread on the ranger forum and educate yourself to see how wrong you are. 500+ replies and 50 000+ views. You know there’s a problem!
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I’m not pro nerfs. However, if the wars are where the devs want them to be, then some classes are majorly getting screwed. Go read the ranger’s forums. It’s not about knowing how to play it. They took away our dps. We’re getting beat by other classes in bow dps…How sad is that.
I say tweet them too, facebook and reddit. This is their twitter: https://twitter.com/GuildWars2
Who wants to bet they are sitting in their comfy office chairs thinking: ‘’We have a great game. Well balanced, minimal bugs, yup let’s go on vacation now and let the interns take over’’. They are not responding so it’s clear that they all think we’re a bunch of QQ’ers just angry at a nerf and that we will find some magical way to make up for the nerf by playing the other great weapons and skills they put at our disposal. Oh wait?! Those are pretty much all broken or suck too? Well it’s OK then we can’t just press 1 on them so they won’t get nerfed since we’re already not using them.
Are there any parsers that work with this game? I used to use Gameparse in EQ1
I also want to mention this: I have never played a ranger in any other game. I tried many professions here and leveled them to 10-15. The ranger, to my extreme surprise, was the class I really liked. Anet had managed to do something that no other MMORPG had done for me before. This is the first game that I play from Anet as well. I was quite pleased and even with the bugs and everything else that was negative, I saw good things for the future.
Then, you LIED to us. Spin it however you want it, we were lied to. You took me from my very positive first impressions to Anet cannot be trusted. You will need to do a lot of good for me to trust you again. Am I quitting? Nope. I like the game. I will however be very wary of you until you prove yourself honest again. I will not be able to recommend your products nor do I feel right spending in the gem store anymore.
If you’re going to nerf a class, you will get backlash. Especially with a nerf so poorly thought out. However, if you lie to your players, they will realize it and be even more angry. I’m sure that you remember your parents telling you ‘’You will still be grounded but I won’t be as mad if you tell me the truth’’ or some similar expression. I waited a few days to see if we would get an apology for this but we didn’t. My good first impression of Anet has now been killed.
Also, thanks for making me spend time working on the shortbow legendary when I am most likely better off with Axe/warhorn now. Time to restart. Yay!
If you want me to have ’’fun’’, fix the other weapons so I can have a use for them. Axe and warhorn and Shortbow are the only 2 viable options really and even then it’s either not great or you nerf it.
I meant that it’s obviously cheaper to use the lvl 76 rares. We know that we can get The Lover from them. It makes more sense to use those as they can be obtained as loot or from event loot. You could get lucky and get your lover by not ever spending a copper for it.
However, we discussed that we’re unsure what the % is from rare vs exotics and even in their level. I mean the % of a chance to get The Lover. Some people may try their luck with 4 lvl 80 exotics for example following the hypothesis that there is a higher % chance that they would obtain The Lover from this (ignoring how much more money and resources they would have to spend).
They may be losing money and resources in the end as it is simply a hypothesis that these higher level bows could give a higher chance at obtaining The Lover. They could also get lucky if the hypothesis proves to be true.
At least it’s how I see it. Let me know if you see flaws in this.
Thank you for the answers. So we can try the cheaper end which are 4 rares of lvl 76 and higher and if it doesn’t work out after a while, there is no actual proof but it may make sense to have a higher chance at trying lvl 80 exotics ….
Questions remaining for the lover:
-Can it be 4x the same shortbows? If yes, does it reduce your chances
-Can you mix and match exotic and rares? If so, does it reduce your chances
-Does using rares lower your chances.
If you have any of this info, please let us know. TYVM
kk gonna update again. ty. i don’t mind doing a bit of work when people like u guys help out and end up making the final recipe ’’perfect’’. Sure it’s gonna help out a lot of people. Hope others are able to do this for their own legendary.
Ya the 100 coins part is just poorly written. I meant 100 coins is the average for your 77 clovers. I’ll rewrite that part to make it less confusing.
For the lover, do you know if there is a specific recipe and if there is a higher chance if they are exotics?
Thank you, Prophet. I will edit the list.
This is a list I made very fast of how to make the dreamer. Most of the info comes from wiki I just put it in order as to make it more simple.
A) The lover: You need to put 4 exotic OR rare shortbows lvl 76 or higher into the forge and hope to get it… (for a bit more info on this, read the threads below and especially what Mercury.ranique added to the subject.
B) Gift of the dreamer: (mix all of this in forge)
1) Gift of wood: 1x gift of wood: 250 Ancient wood plank + 250 Elder wood plank+250 hard wood plank+250 seasoned wood plank+ recipe for 10 gold from myani
2) -1x Unicorn statue:1x gift of thorns bought from a merchant in LA for 500 Deadly blooms which are obtained by running Twilight Arbor Explorable dungeon.
-250 Orichalcum ingots (which come from orichalcum ore)
-100x opal orb (obtained by jewelcrafting 2 opal crystal and 5 pile of incandescent dust OR randomly from orichalcum veins
-100 Chrysocola orb (5x Piles of Incandescent Dust+ 2x Chrysacola Crystals)
-Recipe from Myani for 10 gold
3) 100 Icy runestone Rojan the Penitent at Frostgorge Sound in Frostwalk Tundra, west of the Earthshake Waypoint after the Breaking the Claw of Jormag meta event is finished. (1 gold each)
4) 1 sigil of superior purity
C) Gift of fortune: (mix all of this in forge)
1) 77 Mystic clover: Mix this in the forge 1x obsidian shard (can be purchased from Tactician Deathstrider at the Temple of Balthazar in Straits of Devastation when under Pact control for 2100 karma each)1 mystic coin from the daily and monthly ach1glob of ectoplasm+6 philosopher’s stone (Sold by Myania for 1 skill point per 10) VIP*** This is for the CHANCE at a clover. You will not get one every time. It has a 33% chance to give you one each time and you need 77 in total. There is also a recipe to try them more than one a time but as per what I read, it’s all about luck. You could make a lot of clovers at a time or lose a lot at a time. I will not post the recipe to confuse people but it’s online if you need it. Personally, I will do them 1 by 1 as from what I read you are less likely to waste materials.
2) 250 glob of ectoplasm
3) 1 gift of magic: 250 vial of powerful blood+ 250 powerful venom sack+250 elaborate totem+250 pile of crystaline dust (mix in the forge)
4) 1 gift of might: 250 vicious fang+250 armored scale+250 vicious claw+250 ancient bone (mix in forge)
D) Gift of Mastery:
1) 1 bloodstone shard (sold from myani for 200 skill points)
2) 250 obsidian shard (can be purchased from Tactician Deathstrider at the Temple of Balthazar in Straits of Devastation when under Pact control for 2100 karma each)
3) 1 Gift of exploration: (you get 2 for world completion)
4) 1 gift of battle: It is obtained by talking to a Weaponsmith in any World versus World spawn area for 500 Badge of Honor.
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If the legendaries had a stat-bonus higher than exotics you can expect a massive outrage from the playerbase.
If people cannot understand that an exotic that takes 5 minutes to make vs a legendary that takes about a month to get may have different stats, then they should be mad for another reason ;p There is already a difference of about 2% between exotics vs legendaries. I’d make that 4% for the time it takes to get. The skin isn’t something to boast about. In a month or two if you hear someone say ‘’I got a legendary’‘, people will simply respond ’’welcome to the club’’. It’s not a status item if everyone has one. I plan to do mine because it’s something to do. I don’t think having this item will give me any status at all. Everyone and their grandma can have one if they have the time.
I am not asking to be a demigod. I’m asking for a slight boost in stats. Not a game breaking option. If you read my posts properly, you would of seen that I don’t want something so OP to be game breaking. Also, you will be seeing me with more than one as I have a lot of TIME.
I just wanted to respond quickittenhat the skin=proof of your skill and that others should beware of your dangerous status and such. I couldn’t disagree more. This isn’t skill. This is time. All that this skin says is that you put in the time. What requires so much skill to get? Some people already have them because they put a lot of time into it. I’m only playing 8 hours or so per day which isn’t enough time to get it done just yet. I will get them faster than a lot of players who cannot put in my 8 hours per day. It doesn’t mean that I have any more skill than any of them. It just means that I’m able to log on much more. These skins are truly nothing but skins. Someone tried to brag to me that they had one already and I just said congrats you have a very high play time! It doesn’t impress me or make me jealous like in games where only a slew of players could get these types of weapons even after months and months of trying because it was HARD to obtain.
I have been looking into legendaries since I’m almost done all the hearts and such… Wow…All of this work for a skin? The stats are not what i would of thought. Anet…you really need to rethink these. All this work for a skin=many players won’t do it and will move along to either another toon (which is fine for you) or another game (where you loose money from micro transactions and such). Yes I’m making my argument in regards to how it will affect you because I don’t think you really care about me complaining that the stats on legendaries suck. Make them better and a lot of people will do more than one, sticking around for a much longer time until an expac. I’m not asking for something so OP that it breaks the game but a little boost isn’t going to break it and will make it much more worth it.
There is a skill point by Loch Waypoint with a Hylek frog that doesn’t reset. It’s currently laying on its back doing nothing and has been like this for almost 2 weeks. I reported it before as well as other people. Is there an ETA on the fix for this bug?
No it’s not a ‘’wait for the server to reset and it will work’’. There have been many server resets and I was there right after one and the frog was still doing nothing.
Ok so I googled as much as I could and I found out that there should be a meta event to open the arah doors so that i can get to arah and finish my personal story in the dungeon. However, it does not seem to be working.
Can anyone confirm:
1) That this is bugged
2) Where this meta event is supposed to start.
Thank you
Yes that’s why I said that they should lose a lot of momentum once the hacked accounts are dealt with. For now, they just have so many accounts. It’s crazy. Our ignore lists are full! I do feel bad for those poor people who cannot play and are having their accounts abused by those hackers. I am hoping that once it’s all dealt with, the spam will also be much reduced. It would still be nice at that point to have something like I mentioned in my original post…with some tweaks in the system of course as I can see flaws in it. I think that we can all agree that for now, the spammers are just so annoying. You put one on ignore and they are back under a different name 1 minute later grrr.
You’re right it could use some fine tuning. I do also agree that all these poor people who have been the victims of hacks and are undergoing the ‘’ticket process’’ at the moment are the number 1 priority. At least I can play so I get that my annoyance at the gold spammers doesn’t take first row at the moment but in the future when those pressing issues have been taken care of, the gold spammers will need to be addressed. They should loose a lot of momentum once people regain their hacked accounts too because for now they have so many accounts it seems like.
Thank you. Sorry with so many threads and my terrible ADHD when reading these …lol