Guild Wars 2

Alex.9268:

I’m just happy not having to deal with vizunah this week.

yup, vs is prolly the most boring server to play against. at least now people dare face us in battle

only a wvw player knows what gw2 is all about…

Truebanana.5936:

Wolbryne.4037:

SFR’s pvd team rolling on deso border atm. after taking cliff and longview they saw 3 people on the garrison ramparts so they built a treb in longview to treb the reinforced wall in-staid of taking down the wooden gate just so they didn’t have to go up against 3 people… lol… really?

We were 8 (5 Opt, 3 Pugs) and we saw and did fight 4-5 other people from desolation before that. I was the commander and it was my treb !

We were 3 people in garrison, maybe 4. I just found it funny that you didn’t go for the wooden gate but actually commenced trebbing the reinforced wall in-staid. I take that as a compliment though

I Deschain I.4623:

zarak.2314:

Don’t worry too much SFR is already breaking up. VoTF has left the server to jump to a winning server pvdoor style!

Seriously? Actually it’s no surprise at all refering to the posts here made by a few of them. But I have to agree with salluks and hope that you guys won’t be the new Blacktide falling part.

well considering they got to where they are by becoming a fotm gloryhunter-server. they will prolly die like one.

SFR’s pvd team rolling on deso border atm. after taking cliff and longview they saw 3 people on the garrison ramparts so they built a treb in longview to treb the reinforced wall in-staid of taking down the wooden gate just so they didn’t have to go up against 3 people… lol… really?

Habib Loew.6239:

Draygo.9473:

Are projectile destroying skills actually intended to destroy siege projectiles? Or is this a case of creative use of game mechanics you guys didn’t quite expect.

Also what has been the most surprising placement you’ve seen for a treb that actually worked?

I don’t know the answer to the siege projectile question (someone in design surely does though) so I’m going to skip that one.

As for the most surprising siege placement, for me that has to be the point blank trebuchet. I don’t know why it didn’t occur to me that people might do that, but I honestly wasn’t expecting it.

I did that a few nights ago on several towers when wiping blacktide of the map in the last t2 matchup. mostly to troll them really

great fighting on deso border last night

yeah KAZ is spanish, we all know that
but vinuza claims we have 400 angry mexicans, that’s why it’s funny lol

had a great first night in this matchup. some bad skill lag but apart from that, all thumbs up

We went toe to toe with RG just before last reset and won with 9-5 in wipes. That along with the fun we had fighting MoS yesterday at briar/ruins has been the most fun I’ve had in a long long time. Take care MoS, wherever you go. You have my respect and I’ll tip my hat to you guys.

As for the rest of blacktide and arborstone… so long, and thanks for all the fish.

you’re also still french

and now glitched into bay. you on Cheat-tide having fun today?

Guild Wars… G U I L D W A R S…
Guilds at war with eachother.
People in guilds at war with people from other guilds.

Why would you buy a game where the title itself promises pvp if you don’t like it and prefer to play your mmo like a single player game?

Come here in-staid. We on desolation would LOVE to have you here to night cap the french and german super servers, it makes them cry

Ramic.2346:

Wolbryne u know what the diference is if u get a US guild or a Eu guild. The one actually needs to sacrifice something to play at night, for the other one it doesnt rly matter because its daytime for them. Its not fair for any Server who doesnt have such US guilds. And it will probably just happen the same thing as it did till now when u recruit a US guild, it causes an imbalance in the tier because a guild from an other ranking came and after some weakes the guild leaves because they lost in t1. WE(atleast the most of us) dont care if u recruit EU guilds from any timezones because its a Eu ranking with an EU server. No problem but if u want to recruit US guilds, then deal with it that u are hated because u negate all the hard work an EU server/ german server/whatever server does without US guilds.
Now have fun and I hope we will have some good fights till the end of the week.

you DO realize that our current night force is the same people who play during prime time right? We work, attend university etc and then come home, juggle our family and gw2. we play during prime time and after that we continue playing long into the night, sleep 2.5-3 hours a night then up to work/school again.
Do you have ANY idea AT ALL about the toll that takes on our social lives/families/job/school etc? We CAN’T muster a pure night force without looking for it elsewhere.
Just because you have the luxury of having an enormous wvw player base doesn’t mean we do. Different servers have different options available to them.

You guys all run huge night time zergs. aren’t we entitled to doing the same, or is that just something that’s reserved for you? Us getting a night time guild wouldn’t mess up any kind of balance, it would simply make us able to compete with you during those hours. And don’t gimme that kitten about you not having many players at night. day in and day out we encounter your 30-50+ people nightly zergs in any borderland or EB. We can hop BL and there’s another huge zerg facing us there. We’ve seen them. We’ve fought them. You can’t deny their existence.

So I ask you why should you be the only ones allowed to have 24/7 coverage? It’s not fair unless YOU have the upper hand? It’s not fair if it’s an even fight?

Dayra.7405:

Wolbryne.4037:

So all in all, what you’re saying is that it’s ok for people to transfer servers as long as they transfer FROM desolation to other servers. But that it’s wrong, bad and eeeeebul if they transfer TO desolation? Seriously, get real.

Don’t be so Deso-zentric. I and most other posters don’t like the sentence:

Zaowi.7098:

We’re a popular English-speaking server and looking for WvW guilds from all time zones and servers to transfer to join us.

in
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/Desolation-Recruitment-A-Tier-2-Server/1072255

Change the “from all time zones and servers” to “EU-Servers” and we can stop discussion in the forum.

First off, there’s 4 time zones in EU. Secondly, we have no american guilds so stop whining about that. Thirdly, people outside of EU has the same right as anyone else to play on the EU servers. To say otherwise is xenophobic. When I played Everquest 2, I played on an american server because I played at night and wanted to raid. If I wouldn’t have been allowed onto an american server I wouldn’t have gotten to raid at all and just gotten to play boring solo pve.

No what it all comes down to, and you can deny this all you want, we still know it’s true, you whine because you don’t want us to do anything that will threaten your night capping. You want to have it easy, without competition. And now when you see something that might threaten that you yell, cry and moan about it. THAT is the reason for your whining. THAT is the reason you’re all crying over a part of a sentence in a recruitment post. THAT is the reason. Nothing else.

So all in all, what you’re saying is that it’s ok for people to transfer servers as long as they transfer FROM desolation to other servers. But that it’s wrong, bad and eeeeebul if they transfer TO desolation? Seriously, get real.
We lost half our wvw players thanks to stuff over the last several weeks. Are we not allowed to rebuild our server to be able to compete once more?
You should be HAPPY for us. And happy for you since this means you’ll get a fight again and not just pvdoor until you have 100% map domination and you sit there all night spawn camping what 5 random players.

Nah my last post was written out of frustration in the middle of the night. It was just disheartening to all of a sudden, after fighting back wave after wave from both servers and managing to hold hills on arbor border, there was 50+ elonas face rubbing down a fully repaired gate in 5 seconds flat and taking the keep without us being able to do anything what so ever about it.
kudos to you for having such a night presence. I envy you for that.

and now the 200 people elone night cappers taking everything on every map. this is kitten beyond kitten actually. is it fun for you guys rolling over everyone with a zerg that’s 5 times as big as anything else?

Liriel.1473:

there are people wasting supply on every server we have this kind of guy on Arbor too, are you sure he is from our server ?

well he’s taunting people in french. His name is “H” something, I don’t remember. I’ll post his name if I see him again today

MagnusLL.8473:

Wolbryne.4037:

magnus you didn’t get kicked because you critizised the game or anet. you got kicked because you told another member that he should F off in guild chat. it was totally uncalled for and we don’t want that type of crap in /g

First of all, I wasn’t kicked, I left. Second, that was after said member (and a couple others, to be sure) tried to belittle me six or seven times (“stop whining”, “stop crying”, “lol idiots” etc.) in guild chat while I was having a perfectly fine discussion with someone else. I’m a patient guy, that’s why I let the first several times go. But you can’t expect to keep provoking me forever and not get the reply you so richly deserve, sooner or later.
Funny thing is, Kargoth felt it was perfectly fine for the others to keep having pot shots at me (and the other guys who were agreeing with me) but as soon as I dared reply he came down on me like a ton of bricks. Either he was playing favorites, or he simply had an agenda. Considering he kept behaving that same way on forums, deleting posts which were… let’s say “too critic” of Arenanet and the game, it isn’t really hard to guess which option is the correct one. I’m sorry but if you can’t see that in IRON you’re expected to toe the “Arenanet can do no wrong” line (or you were anyway, can’t speak for how it is now) then there isn’t much else to discuss.

Anyway, I doubt this is of interest to whoever is reading the thread so I won’t keep discussing this. In fact I probably shouldn’t have brought it up in the first place, but whatever… I just couldn’t keep myself to set the record straight.

I was there, reading chat and I was talking to kaargoth both in whispers and on TS when you got booted so don’t try to lie to me buddy
The people telling you to stop whining etc didn’t do it because they wanted to belittle you or anything like that. they did so to get you to stfu since you were cluttering up the guild chat with your non stop crying.
And when you told Perky to F off, you got asked to de-guild or be kicked.
Saying that you left and didn’t get kicked is only true in the sense that you clicked the button yourself.

magnus you didn’t get kicked because you critizised the game or anet. you got kicked because you told another member that he should F off in guild chat. it was totally uncalled for and we don’t want that type of crap in /g

I have nothing against zergs. don’t get me wrong. we have no problems what so ever beating any zergs from any server when we have even numbers or even when we’re outnumbered 2 to 1. but vs arborstone it’s at least 3 to 1 pretty much all the time. it gets kind of boring in the long run really.

Wothan.4673:

Lelith.2916:

thats true deso mentality

Because it’s a quote form a US guy ? a legacy of Ruins ?
just a joke.

…Or because we’re constantly outnumbered when facing your zerg server?

the breakout event is kitten really. the best way to solve the problem would be to remake the out manned buff. in-staid of giving people pve stats it should boost their pvp stats 30-50%. problem solved.

this week has been fun for me. lots of good fighting everywhere and strong opponents, thought the BB players could probably beef up a little since most of the time it feels like you’re made of paper
but anyways, it’s been great. I had a lot of fun so thansk for that.

but that aside it’s kinda sad that when arborstone is running with twice our numbers on a borderland and we really have no chance of holding you back you still have to resort to pathetic cheating tactics and have your spies, who’s transferred to desolation, queue pointless upgrades in our keeps just before you attack them.

“deso commander: walls are wood but the supplies are good so we should be able to hold them off for a little while. oh scratch that, someone just queued cannons!”

“mr frenchie in map chat: bwahaha u r no supplies le iron bus! your father was a hamster and your mother smelled of elderberries!”

sigh

really devs? not a word? seriously!

neither since they are total crap for thieves. with the stats they have they are a drop in dps no matter how you look at it and the toughness is crap too since it scales awfully with the thief class

Ekove.4586:

Where do I even begin…WvW is a hybrid between PvP and PvE…you want pure PvP, go play sPvP.

I am tired of that argument…and the counter argument is too obvious to even bother writing it down. But sorry to tell you that WvW can never be what it is, nor can it be balanced without some PvE elements.

if I wanted to play some boring 5v5 timed games on a tiny map I’d go play leage of legends or something like that.
wvw is supposed to be a huge map focused on pvp. not focused on pve or pvnpc.

thanks, come again

the more pve crap they put into wvw the more hardcore pvp’ers will leave the game. maybe they’re tired of having a player base?…

Sylosi.6503:

Offski.4897:

New tactic, just don’t attack the last tower, shame this is completely kitten at the top tiers or even the middle tiers. Oh wait at any competitive tier it is a pile of kitten.

If your server is not competitive in wvw i’m sorry i really feel for you, but did wvw really need a new pve event to provide absolutely no solution to your tiers performance? Do you enjoy your tower,? Does it make you comfortable? Do you feel safe chilling out in there? Does those extra few points won by a pve champion make you feel proud?

What competitve tiers are these? Most matches were over by yesterday, several before that, which is pretty typical of the EU tiers, there is nothing competitve in the slighest, whoever has the most coverage in a tier wins, that is it.

Breakout is fine, spawn camping is lame, but then the fact so many times maps have got to the spawn camping situation just says it all about how competitve WvW is.

tier 2.
arborstone has already won because they have huge imba-zergs all day and all night. but the fight for second place is still going strong and will probably keep going until the very last minute.

enjoying a nice evening of fighting and all of a sudden BAM there comes the 200 thousand people in the bb night capping team. it looked something a little bit like this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANRCjWR58vA

Wrex.6798:

Nice fights on Deso BL tonight, the lag at garrison was immense (really needs fixing) but it was a pretty interesting three way battle there

//Wrex

yeah during that entire fight in garrison that lasted a little over one hour I think I got 4-5 skills off. it was kitten luckily fixing the gates ant going to knock on the north bay gate helped to get you guys out of garrison

We were promised no gear grind. no treadmill.
I love pvp. wvwvw is why I play this game. I spend 99% of my time in wvw and the other percent is waiting in queue for wvw.
I absolutely HATE pve. I have no desire what so ever of grinding in pve to get a legendary. I make my money from playing the trade market.
If I would get a legendary, given they make them not suck for thieves, it will be by buying it. Why force the pvp community to do boring pve? we don’t force YOU to play pvp only to get something like a legendary. Yeah you need badges for the legendary, but badges are easy to get and the amount of badges needed is in no way close to the things you need from pve.

the npc commanders will probably attract some of the casual pve community and get them into wvw, but at the cost of the majority of the wvw’ers. You’re losing players A-net. does this not bother you?

good fights on deso border last night. simultaneous attacks on north and south hills and db. was hard trying to counter with just 25-30 people.

still not even a hint of this thread being read by a dev. this makes me sad

Since there wasn’t any topic for us yet, I created it.
What do you think about the matchup thus far?
I think it’s the most boring week ever. Not because of either server but because of the stupid pve event crap they implemented. we all play wvw because we like big scale pvp, but what do we get? just more pve in pvp.
thoughts?

^agree with offski to 100%

can we please get a response from a-net on this?

2 npc commanders hitting greenbriar within 5 minutes is really a bit excessive. it takes the fun right out of the game.

I totally agree. the changes made as of late are doing nothing but destroying the wvw experience. All because of changes without any concern at all to the world vs world pvp.

maloki.3527:

It can’t be that hard can it? I mean if we even can get random people on Far Shiverpeaks to ge the event going, why can’t Desolation? :P

because we have no night cappers. none what so ever. and we haven’t had for a few weeks.

As long as you don’t play on my server, I say camp tje jp’s all you want. It removes defenders from your keeps and makes them all that faster to take.

Note to the moderator: this is pure and true facts and in no way a troll post so please stop deleting my posts.

As a thief I see no reason what so ever of getting a legendary. The legendary would be a drop in dps with the same survivability (exotic carrion gear) since it would remove my main dps stat which is condition damage and because toughness hardly works with thieves.
So what does that leave? A visual effect? Should I spend tons and tons of gold and karma on a graphic effect? no, that’d be a huge waste and I’d be mildy kitten if I got myself a legendary, even if I had the money. Besides the supposed visual goodies or eyecandy, if you will, really isn’t very good at all for the dagger, pistol or short bow. The dagger looks like a wierd torch, the pistol looks like miniature megaphone molded from a box of random melted crayons and the rainbow-shooting short bow would even make chuck norris himself doubt his sexuality.

Legendary? No thank’s!

Dropper.9176:

That can happen , but when it happens. The Player can use the stairs, jump over the wall and no one could complain about it.

^This!

Moghwar.8706:

Wolbryne.4037:

I found this bug last week. I could use heartseeker and infiltrators arrow to get through the gate, but instaid of exploiting it like “some” I reported it with a screenshot and jumped off the wall.
Guess it shows whether you have character or not in those situations.

According to the thread dealing with this matchup in the german forums, some guys from my server (Kodash) already try to find out what happened there. Generally, this guild isn’t known for this kind of stuff.

BTT: We had some great fight against Deso, but MUCH to learn… just got tricked from one of your raids. My group was following you on Kodash BL north of the norh-eastern tower… you guys running down to that supply camp. “Hey, looks like they’re planning something…” – “Nah don’t think so, just kill those guys standing here” … portal bomb, confusion, 80% dead. Well, won’t happend any time soon to us again, i hope ;-)

yeah don’t take it as I’m blaming all of you guys, it’s not what I intended. it’s hard to know about everything that happens in the heat of battle. No who I’m pointing my finger at is the mesmer who glitched in and instaid of jumping out again used the bug to make a portal and get people in, thus turning the bug into an exploit.
cheaters are never fun, for neither party involved. it brings anger from the opponents and it brings a bad rep on the ones using it. nobody gains from it (other than a few odd points).

I found this bug last week. I could use heartseeker and infiltrators arrow to get through the gate, but instaid of exploiting it like “some” I reported it with a screenshot and jumped off the wall.
Guess it shows whether you have character or not in those situations.

glitching? really?… weak

To my knowledge, nobody in IRON has used any exploits. Everything we’ve done have been 100% legit and abiding by the ToS/EULA/Code of conduct. The reason for some people complain about certain things that go down is simply because they did not know what happened, how it was done or thought that had prevented/countered it when they hadn’t. This goes for thieves sealthing, mesmers hiding in keeps, golem sneak rushes etc.

This being said I have to congratulate blacktide for an awesome start. Thus far, this matchup has been a blast. All three servers truly fighting eachother on all fronts.

Cheers