Guild Wars 2

Nop, we are tired it’s all.

We lost many energy in the match up VS/AS/ER.. pushed our limit again the week after in the 1er match up VS/AS/DS. But now we can’t follow the pace… so this week will be very hard for us. Many ppl or AS / VS make a pause, or play less hard.

I think deso win with 100k+ vs AS and VS.

Elona beat AS and VS with a strong nightcapping, nobody cry, all french player say gg to Elona. Because elona make good work on the night with their own ppl.
So i don’t think it’s because we don’t love to lose and we become angry.

Atm 90%+ nightcapping force of Deso is US player.. on EU ladder…

If Deso beat us with their own ppl, we act like when Elona beat us, we say gg. But it’s not the case.

Or just delete the [FR] [DE] [SP] tag…

Maybe if all the [fr] [de] [sp] inc to usa ladder and broken them, whit full capping the map on the night, like the US atm in EU ladder atm…. anet make a reaction…

If you want to keep your server to your language/country group then you will have WvW problems. I see people denigrating Americans saying they will not want to play on French servers. That really is not true. Given an opportunity, I am sure Americans will play wherever there is a good fight.

Yes our tag serv [FR] / [DE] / [SP].. is clearly don’t desire for other ppl to inc on this serv.
So what, we need to leave our tagged serv to come in classic “EU” serv if we want have a competitive serv ?. Because ATM we can"t fight vs serv with classical prime time + US prime time when all EU sleep…

They know that as soon as one of them drops to tier 2 that the party is over.

VS is N°1 since 2 mouth without any other french in D1…. it’s clear their can make anythink without AS……
But now yes, with US guild come in EU it’s not the same..french / german serv can’t make nothing vs serv with EU and US prime time. We can’t follow the pace. US prime time when 90% of our pll go to sleep… well very hard to keep or map…

As a result they have been burning all of their energy/money and resources to fight a desperate battle to avoid being entirely knocked out. This level of resistance will not be sustainable for them. There is no way to keep your players running 14 hour days for two weeks and altering sleep schedules to compensate. There will be enormous burn-out.

I agree. We can’t keep this pace for a long time.
But we don’t make this for a win trading, we don’t care if Elona or BT inc N°1, we are glad if one of them keep the first place.. we just don’t want to see a N°1 EU serv with a so great part of victory make by US.. We know all the great stuff made by Iron and many other guild, but it’s no way for Ruins.

Vizunah and Arborstone guilds will be destroyed as their members fall to exhaustion, their alliances will collapse, French Hegemony in Europe will end.

French Hegemony will end and US hegemony in EU will rise…. once again xD
Exhaustion is not a problem, we make breather and down in tier and we back. 1/2/3 week it’s not a problem.

Only through abusing every single loophole in the WvW system have the French remained in tier 1. The level of desperation that they show in this regard has been a constant source of entertainment for Ruin.

Why Loophole in WvW system.. plz tell some example.

The French servers face the REALITY of a defeat in which they will be cast down to fight the Russians on Blacktide, who will inevitably crush them. Those who remain after the long hard retreat from Moscow will face their Waterloo fighting European Coalition servers and the Germans.

What Reality of defeat ? Elona beat VS and AS, sorry but you’’r no’t the first to down us.
Yeah Europe need to make coalition to down one country.. how pathetic..

Now Arborstone apparently has a night crew “magically” after a full week of having zero presence, while Vizunah has virtually no coverage.

Sorry for you but we have the same guild that last week in open, no more, but VS have low pop this night yes.

Though the average French player does not engage in an “alliance” between the servers (we have seen infighting and feuding between the French servers). There are clearly guilds on AS/VS engaged in questionable practices to cling on to these matches.

What, “questionable practices” ? , US alliance inc to EU ladder with their prime time when 90% or more of EU player sleep isn’t “questionable” mabye ?. Why you come in EU ? you full wipe in US ladder and now vs door and 2/3 player you can think you are skilled ?.

Ultimately it is better for strong independent servers to make up tier 1. Rather than trying the French method of spreading their guilds across two servers to provide them with a numerical advantage.

I don’t understand this. You think it’s better to make VS and AS ppl in one big french serv, rather than split our force in few serv ?.. ok but what about waiting time to inc in open by example ?. We split our force to make 2 good serv, but not one overpowered ( Elona beat each of us. ) it’s the best way i think.

Many players will realize this on AS and VS and I predict that as soon as it becomes impossible to maintain two French servers in tier 1 they will abandon one to reinforce their remaining server (likely Vizunah). I am confident that when Arborstone is knocked out it will be left to die by the “crossrealming” guild alliances and will plummet through the server rankings.

Once against what ’crossrealiming" guild alliance ? mane plz ? can you tell me only one WvW guild passing form VS to AS ? tell a name.

AS down in D2 next week, this is a not a secret ( even this week we would already be in D2. ), we have nobody on the night in week.
But we don’t go to VS. We don"t care to VS and VS don’t care about us. GC and ES play together only when 4 of the 5 french serv are close.

7pm GMT and we are holding good, but it seems our biggest threat this week will be Arborstone since VS seems to be a bit burned out

Nope
AS have always good week end and bad week
VS have always bad week end and good week

VS transfered there guilds to arbor to avoid the server being kicked out of t1 there ot burned out.

What guild ? I’m realy interested to know what VS guild transfered to Arbor, Can you give name plz ( even in mp ? ) or it’s just a rumour like CaSu once again ?
Because on VS you have GC alliance and on AS you have ES alliance, and i can assure you no one of this guild have switch, and no one of WvW focus guild of VS or AS have switch…

. It currently does seem Arbor and VS are win-trading to keep both French servers in T1,

It’s seems all the serv in D1 want to stay in D1…, no matter if 2 of them are french, german or whatever… their are no wintrading btw AS or VS for keep one of us in D1. If we down in D2 VS taunt us, if VS down we taunt them it’s all.

Curious, most nights last week we, Desolation, were getting “Outnumbered” buff on several Borderlands.

maybe on our borderlands the Week end yes… but event on the week end you have 100% of EB… and in the week… well we have nothing… against you. Can you tell me honestly, how many ppl of AS you fight on the week in 3/4am ?

Come on over to Desolation, jump in Teamspeak with RUIN, and play a real WvW match.

Why more US guild need to go on Deso, you already totally over-numbered all the EU serv in the night…. i mean when it’s your prime time, you have what vs you ? 10/20 guys on AS and 20/30 of VS … ?.

Their is absolutely no challenge for US guild to move in EU.. your prime time is when 90% of EU player go to sleep…

Apparently not the same drugs as you take; I was asking a question, you’re immediately assuming I am accusing you. I guess the proverb “every thief assumes everyone steals” is applicable here, but alas, I digress.

What a question … for what you take us… srly ?

That aside, I assume that even though it is inconceivable to you that any cooperation whatsoever exists between AB and VZ, it does ring hollow when you assure Desolation players that there is no alliance, yet there’s blatant occurrences where your forces refuse to fight each other, even going so far as to /bow to each other, and having spies wasting our supplies regularly.

I’m one of the first with Troma to say there is a french alliance against deso last week… ( i can’t say look the old topic.. unfortunately anet delete this .. ). For some reason, this alliance was broke after 2 day. And since when, yes, they is no more alliance btw AS and VZ. So can say "you say that but i see VS don’t attack AS etc.. " yes, and i see some Deso don’t attack VS and rush AS.. so what, i need say their is a alliance btw VS and Deso for all that ?.

Maybe if AS with vs 2 german serv i will act like you and say their make alliance vs us… but it’s definitely not the case atm.

. You can deny it all you want, and for you it might be true, but fact remains that some guilds/people blatantly continued to cooperate.

I don’t deny this. But it’s not the case for the 2 big wvw alliance on AS and VS.

I find it quite humorous how some people validates a 2v1 alliance to having full night-time coverage, regardless of means the latter is achieved with.

Event with a alliance btw the 2 french serv, we are outnumbered the night vs Deso … Our canadian ( armata ) back to usa serv, and well it’s the ruins prime time when we go to sleep for most of us.. very difficult in this condition to win without alliance.

After the reset. Its VES and ARB agianst DES. Any French opinions? Fair fight anyone?

What is fair fight for you ? Make a alliance in a 3 faction game, or have US guild inc to EU ladder with their prime time is when we go to sleep ? … it’s the same in the 2 case, it’s 2 option you can make to assure your victory. And the 2 are right.

The fact that both Arbor and VZ sandwiched Desolation at the sentry at Bluelake, and then proceeded to meet without touching each other, some of them even doing /bow to the “opposing” side, certainly seems to reinforce this notion. I guess it’s Arbor’s turn to win, too?

No, AB don"t win this time, we have good night and morning time the week end, but in week we have nothing, we try to make point this weekend to don’t loosing to much in the week. We have no arrangement with VS and any alliance in the futur is no way atm.

This morning we have on our homemap VS attack only AB and don"t touch to Deso, so .. i need to cry “omg VS is in alliance with deso ?”

Word on the street is that Arb will indeed win this, as a large VZ guild has transferred to Arb to ensure that 2 French teams will stay in Tier1 – confirm/deny?

Oh Come on.. are you serious ? i mean what kind of drug you take ? We can see many bullkitten on this forum, but this.. really one of the best.. this is no way..
If not, i’m sure it’s Troma and this WL moving on AB !

, the current implementation seems to be irresistible to hackers/cheaters and will require significant modification to prevent cheaters from having an unfortunately large impact on the state of any given WvW game

Why you just don"t ban all the cheater ? .

You act like when Mythic remove the Fortress in Warhammer… very disappointing.

No, AS are not the slave of VS or all other bullkitten like this. And their is no more alliance btw AS and VS since the end of the week end ( very simple to see, the weekend we can stay the 3 serv in the same score, after AS fall… ). GG to VS for resist to Deso, next week will be not the same…

The problem of VS and AS ( and all the other serv in general ) atm vs Deso is very simple, Deso can have a great presence h24 with the us guild to make the relay for the night.. it’s not the case of VS and AS. ( i don’t say it’s bad that US inc in EU serv.., just the case atm. )

VS make great effort to win this match up ( aka event at 4am etc… ), AS can’t follow the rhythm and VS can keep very long like this. It’s a Pryyhus victory in some way. So Deso will come the EU N°1 next week or week after it’s the same. GG for you.

Atm on AS it’s like that all the leecher leave to VS or other serv… in 2 week our waiting time for inc in WvW became very low… Well it’s very good for the prime time, but for all the rest of the day.. it’s don"t understand, it’s like 50% of our wvw pop just go.. in 1 week..

Hope the next matchup we can make better than this for AS. But it’s not so dramatic to. Maybe some week in d2 can be cool to rebuild.

Talking about AS, stop raging at us, and improve your skills and teams. That’s pretty sad to see how AS is weak atm.

It’s funny because we think VS lvl is a joke vs AR .. .Except CDD everything else is a deception…

. I hope (Too much dream, kills the dream) this will change, and every serv will focus on the fight.

A dream yes.. when you see some ppl always angry because XX ninja their relic 10 year ago in Daoc….

Stop with this please… That’s faucking ridiculous. We’re McM-ing to fight, not to rage against X or Y serv.

.. hello wake up .. you’r here for fight, but many ppl don"t see the mcm like this.. it’s regrettable ofc, but it’s the case, and this ppl are far from being the minority…

An those saying we were in tier 3, we got teamed up by two [fr] servers Aug an AS in tier 2.

There is never have any kind of team up btw AS and AR… just look the score at the end of the week… This is totally false.

After the" backstab" drama on french forum btw VS and AS, many AS ppl think the best way for AS is to help DS to take down VS this week..

Deso have good chance to win this battle now, take 8k on the last night..
PA is away and will not return.. i don’t know where is past our nightcapping force :/…. But our waiting list is lower day by day ( 5 minutes to inc in open at 8pm … Woot!! ), all the leecher back to VS i think, it’s a great victory in someway.

Anyway very hard fight on the AS homemap tonight, WL / CDD vs IRON vs SR/FRY/LNM … waiting to 10h45pm to take our basic spot… hope all enjoy the fight.

Desolation has just moved to tier 1. Gj everyone

You can mainly thank VS and AS for this

Atm if RUINS inc because they think fight CaSu.. they are well trolled…

CaSu is a guild with only 1 men now, french, who creat a post on Gw2guidl to claim have a guild with 500 french Canadian and some ppl make rumours about he rule the D1 night…

In fact CaSu is like the famous Sadam massif destruction weapon myth…

Btw i hope all the ppl moving in EU, can find challenge fight, really, but i don’t think they finds that they have come to seek ..

Problem isn’t free transfert, problem is leecher … 70/80% of player atm are leecher :/

AS was the french serv with the lowest population, we win vs AR and now vs VS… our waiting time to go in wvw up 30 minutes to 2/3h in 3 week …. Now we are full of useless leecher..

So what next ? our alliance leave AS, go to as low pop serv? win some match up, leecher inc , and we need to switch again ?

On VS tagged [FR] serv you can find some english guild.. here only because VS is 1..

So this “2000” strong RUIN night time guild you “researched” that doesn’t exist

I don’t remember to have speak about “2000” RUINs or RUINS number… I just say : an Alliance for fight 30 guys is maybe a little too much

Why we chose EU ?
Firstly what I’m about to say is meant to be taken in fun as a part of the meta-game. We decided that it would be interesting to make this about bringing the French servers down. It is widely known that most EU communities and the US dislike the French for whatever reasons. We saw the FR starting to dominate the EU bracket and decided to make this about joining together with out EU brethren to bring down the tyrannical rule of the FR in tier 1 of the EU bracket. We are well aware that until tier 1 we may be facing PvDoor. But as my research has directly revealed the FR servers have a LARGE nighttime presence. We have been informed of an organization called CaSu that are mostly French Canadian. Alot of players on the EU servers fear CaSu. We (ruin) cannot wait to face them and dominate them. Yes I said dominate. RUIN intentionally seeks out large organizations that people believe are the best and do everything in our power to defeat them. We will be victorious!

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We are coming for you France!! We plan to RUIN your good time in Tier 1 and bring DESOLATION to your lands!!
PS – We recognize and welcome all other countries in our conquest of the French. not just UK,USA

Ahaha What a joke… seriously guy…

Well, if you think you go to find fight vs french canadian .. i’m sorry to disappoint you, but VS have almost no canadian and PA have only one french canadian guild..

So move your alliance to EU for fight vs 10 guys and Door when it’s your prime time.. is maybe a little too much… but if you like fight vs empty keep, well , Welcome in EU

But as my research has directly revealed the FR servers have a LARGE nighttime presence.

Atm VS nightcapping presence is 10 guys and PA 30… Woot what a large presence… you may be disappointed.. You"r research is based on anything, except on angry russian maybe…

I know the link, but doyen ask for this update

A very good resume of the drama btw VS and PA :
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/9279266/armata_parodie_wmv/

Atm scoring :
AS : 180285 +310
VS : 127161 +230
BE : 109575 +160

I don’t think AS is more populated that VS, we are both in high population.

But yes, free transfers is really a bad idea.. so many leecher switch serv following the score… look what happening to Riverside or Augury Rock…

Funny how the number #1 confrontation worldwide only gets 17 posts so far this week, and i believe 0 last week. WE WANT MORE DRAMA.

Haha don’t make a miskate, there is full of drama, but in french forum xD

my question is….how comes?! your improvement is very huge. rumours goes around that a few vizunah guilds changed to your server because there were many wtj on vizunah who just want to karma train. Is that true?

Well like a said, our defeat vs you was very interesting, and our alliance try new think, new organisation ect.

Hum for the VS guild switch i don’t think, many ppl form AR inc yes, but form VS i don’t see this in game. We have the same guild in prime time when we fight against you last time that now. One guild of our french canadian friend inc for 1 week trying, but it’s all and i don’t think 30ppl changes everything.

Atm

AS : 142310 + 325
VS : 109460 + 215
EB : 95629 + 150

Strong presence of AS in the night, VS is more here aftermoon and the prime time is balanced.

what about the arma guild? the bunch of a hundred players of them have nothing to do with the canadian one?

Armata is a french canadien guild yes, but they are 30 not 100 Atm they tested to play on EU serv ( AS ) to see if they can play in full guild and find fight. If not, they back to us serv the next week.

on a sidenote, your server (AS) was very strong when we faced each other 2 weeks ago. but this week the playstyle of some of your raids has changed totally. dunno what happened to your raidleaders, but it’s a lot more fun now =)

Well like i said, the defeat against you was very instructive and we make some change. Glad to see you find the fight more fun

I thought we are a bunch of cheaters, not good enough for 1. Bracket?
It would be nice, if some french players could comment on this issue

Well some french player taken not very well the fact to some german player make 3/4 relic flyhack by day… But, i see nobody speak about Elona are not enough good for D1. We think EB have a really good organisation / Resource Management, far above all the other server we faced up. Ritter des Lichts use some funny tactics and all.. so we really enjoy to play against you. VS and EB, it’s the most interesting fight we have since the launch.

Atm the very funny drama is VS crying about the unfair of AS and these Canadian player nightcapping… If some player of FS read this, they must laugh I think.

Hey glad to see you again

And i’m not saying that trying to take the merit out of Arbostone. You guys are doing a good job and are dedicated (very dedicated to be honest) to the point of being able to hold 100% of the objectives during the night and fighting very hard and competitive during the day.

Well, nightcap is clearly boring, unfortunately the game is make in this way… :/
We want to fight in D1, so we have no choice…, once this is achieved… well.. maybe we stop all this shi* and play only prime time like in warhammer again… i don"t know. GW2 is too recent to make decision atm.

Off-topic: SR the same soul reapers that used to play planetside

No, we were only on Warhammer Online.

Anyways thanks for ~300 kills tonight frogs.

You’r glad for only 300 kill ? , well you rejoice for not much :/

The funny thing here, is when you look discuss, when server X win, he is the best, good strategic, tactis etc, losing the week after, it’s more like , omg wvw broken, canadian, cheat… <3

. Anyway, it’s just 4 more days and Arborstone can move up to get wtfpwned by the two super night zerg servers

Well, it’s already done, last week, Elona wtfpwned us in the nitecap

Anyway you have good guild, like OSC and some other on AS map, but this is not enough for all the maps..

the reason why we (SR) are playing against the french server is cus with our medium population we kicked booty and have been matched up with them. They are too many 24/7 canadians/french to hit doors all day and night.

We are the French server with the lowest population, medium pop in most of the time….

You really think we have many french canadian ? last week ER (DE) completely zerg us in the nite, 3/4x more player that our “canadian zerg”.. So what the deal, we need to say German call their friend form south pole or something like this because we lose ? So stop trying to find excuses like this.. it’s pathetic.

But I hope you can still make good fight week and enjoy WvW.

Anyway we really like to fight vs OSC <3

It’s a shame, a french server without canadian and african !

Well it’s seems you’r “fight” vs a drunk man

Or did both Riverside and Arborstone lose terribly last week?

We lost 210k vs 240 for Elona, or something like this..
A great week of fight, very enriching defeat. We try some new thing this week.

Hope all enjoy the fight.

Well, it’s seems i’m a little presumptuous when i said next week it’s PA vs VS and FS….
So Elona up in D1 next, gg to them, great fight, and go kick the * of VS for us

organize better or stop whining" arguments.

Pretty fun to see you say that when you"r nevertheless able to make “operation Borodino” vs VS and win…

All game with 2 factions open pvp fail… look warhammer online and comeback say 2 factions is better …

In 2 faction open pvp you can"t balanced pop unbalance :/
With 3 faction, the 2 weaker can make some alliance vs the stronger to reverse the situation.

Problem is, against which would you make FS ?
They no match all the other serv, except VS… so if you want easy win with no challenge, yes let’s move FS out of the d1…. :/

When you play game like daoc or warhammer online, you play during few year against the same guys, it pretty funny to see ppl crying for change after 1 month..

kitten… so close to d1.. :/
Next week VS on our sight !

Now we’re coming to the end of the week do you have any knowledge of whether you had people on our servers spying or not? (I’m not judging, I’d just like to maybe find out one way or another from someone from that server).

I can speak only for our alliance, and it is clearly not in our way to play.
We have many scout, so we can always with more or less precision know what is the enemy move and their numbers, but no spy on other serv.
I can’t say if it is the same case for all the other guild in AS unfortunately.

For canadian, well, as I have already said, we have one New Caledonian (utc+11) guild and one form Reunion Island (utc+4), and it’s all. french Canadian Have their own alliance : QC alliance ( for example ) and play mostly in US serv like Northen Shiverpeaks.

Especially with rumors that the guys on Arbor was in fact the strong guilds from Viznuah Square (the server we had just lost to the previous week)

Hum… I was not aware of this rumor…

In fact, VS alliance Grand Cross was created to combat our alliance.
But, instead of PA, we don’t care about the 24h match up so when the 1week patch up start we were in the 14th rank :/

. Can’t help but feel like you and Augry were in league to keep us third…

I can assure you it’s not the case, but if we want to go in D1, we need to make the max point vs you, and augury don’t want down in d3 likewise… So there is no alliance, but yes your particularly focus by the 2 fr serv, but for different reason.

Tell me Arborstone, did you not notice guild tags you have seen on Deso, suddenly fight on your side? Have you not noticed some don’t speak French?

No, I see no english speak on AS, for the guild, it’s very difficult to say, many french guild have english name ( like us … ), maybe the [FR] tag discouraged EU ppl to move.
But, some french player and guild move in AS after we beat other french serv :/

Even with their hilariously efficient zerg running around (when you get to watch that from a safe spot it really is fun to see 30-50 frenchies all running one direction then half a minute later all returning the way they came in unison) they were very efficient and knew how to use their zerg.

It’s a training for kick the kitten of VS out of first place… !

Big influence for me in this matchup, 2 servers against one in many situations, same nation /group naturally attacks a foreign group if they have to. I´ve often seen Arbor or Augury turn against us instead of fighting each other.

Hum i’m very doubtful about this.. many guild of the major wvw alliance of AR ( Auld alliance ) and AS ( ES alliance ) fight each other since Daoc / Warhammer and it is no way about alliance, even for a little fight.. Maybe with “pu” ( not pejorative )…
But if you have some guild name acting like that, plz send, need to make some drama on french forum <3

Trimsic, Nidwin not playing on Desolation or Augury… xD

Melee are many think, but under no circumstances useless in www.

You speak about keep def… well you can go to siege weapon, or if you think sw dps is weak .. you can make a beautiful trip on the postern ( not solo if possible ) to dps and kill some ppl in the ram ( with wall of reflection ofc. ). if fact you can make many think with melee. Just look some youtube movie or look forum like guru.

If anet don’t up the pop cap in mvm, they need to add one or two map, don’t care if this map don’t count for the mcm score. Need a way to decongest the queue.. like a overflow serv for wvw…

I think one of the possible solution of "night capping " problem is to deny access from EU servers to American and vice versa.
Main part of night cappers – people from another time zone, for example Canadian people play for EU French servers. Of course, there is the way of using VPN, but the major part of night zerg wouldnt use that…

I hope Anet make this, in this way, you can see this change absolutely nothing …
Ppl really need to stop with the Canadian excuse every time they lose a match up :/

Yes we have guild playing 1 to 6/7am, but they are all in metropolitan France.

I realy hope the anet post about “encouraged people to come in rvr with more reward” is a joke …. or i don’t understand…,
In some serv you have more than 4h queue, and all the answer of anet is "encoraged people to come in rvr … " ? wtf.. Up the ppl limite in open or delete it, don’t care if i play with lag, it’s better that afk 3h for playing in rvr :/