JQ was Tier 2 for a week while ET/SBI dueled HoD. In the ET/SBI/HoD match it saw HoD flip a 40k deficit to a 40k lead in 24hours~.
Oh yeah I forgot about that, I remember reading that thread. Probably one of the best “in gw2 history.” lol That was the same match that this was made: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrFri8rKb6M
^Hilarious how this is pretty much common place now, but back then it was blowing peoples minds.
JQ has been top 3 throughout the history of mmo.millenium’s records. Those records include all but about the first month after the game was released. In that first month, there was all kinds of craziness in the ratings, along with people leveling chars, running through all of the PVE content, and figuring out how to play their classes. If you want to knock on JQ because they weren’t in T1 throughout all of that craziness, then you are missing the point. After things settled down, JQ never dropped below 3rd place.
Also, to respond to the guy pointing out that JQ has 54 medals to the EU server’s 55, if you add up the total medal count for the EU servers, they add up to 165. The NA servers’ total medal counts add up to 162, so for whatever reason, the EU count includes an extra week. Thus, you can conclude that JQ has actually been top 3 for at least 54 weeks.
Are you trying to say 1 week matches dont count? Because for every server, those were the real deal when they were announced (SBI/JQ/ET claimed 1 and 3 day matches were too random — 1 week didnt help them either). That is when WvW really started, and JQ just happened to be T2 in one of the very first 1 week matches. Also there wasn’t actually much craziness. What you remember is inflated scores, but the scores got nerfed eventually. JQ/CD/DB happened because DB and CD pushed themselves to T2, JQ got put in T2 by HoD. SBI/JQ/DB happened because DB was actually winning most of its matches, and SBI/JQ were fighting HoD and subsequently losing. It was all based on ranking however, guru was even predicting matches back then.
Also this is the original quote:
Plus the only server (if I remember correctly) that never touched the 4th position in ranks, always 1st, 2nd or 3rd in all Guild Wars 2 history. That means, Jade Quarry is the only real T1 server, stayed there forever.
I think you’ll agree that is simply not true. Though I have no idea why you specifically are taking it like being in T2 has tarnished JQ somehow.
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That is due to randomized matchups. Just because JQ was in a T2 matchup doesn’t mean their ranking based on their rating had fallen below 3rd. JQ was below 3rd in the early days of GW2 before the ratings had a chance to settle. If you look as far back as mos.millenium.org goes as far as documented matchups (53 weeks), JQ was never below 3rd. http://mos.millenium.org/servers/history/29
No, it isnt. This screenshot is from a time when randomization did not exist. Your ranking decided where you placed. The SBI/JQ/DB match is from 3 day matches (yes, ranking placement existed), and the JQ/DB/CD match is from 1 week matches, pretty sure it was the very first or second one.
If you really want to know how this works. There was 4 1/2 T1 servers: HoD, JQ, SBI, ET (NSP), and BG was getting beat on by HoD every once in awhile even though they didn’t have the population to be there. The first screenshot it was HoD/NSP*/BG I’m pretty sure and the second screenshot was HoD/SBI/ET. Ask the people who have been on your server since the beginning.
*I don’t remember when AA transferred off of NSP, I want to say it was during 3 day matches though.
edit: went and found the old gw2guru rankings (that were based on which matchups you got)…. http://www.guildwars2guru.com/topic/61872-server-ranks-na/
also found this on that page: http://i.imgur.com/DGALI.jpg
So again, you have gone to T2.
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It has to have fallen to 4th or lower at some point, Total Medals for JQ is 54, the EU counterpart has 55. That means at the very least since medals started being handed out (for 1, 2 or 3) JQ didn’t recieve one of them.
JQ has been down to T2 at least 2 times legitly (ranking), I was there for those.
Yeah, nice ‘big’ welcome since all they do is blob around lol (some exceptions, but very few)
And iirc, we were on BG bl last night (not EB) and destroying GoF and other BG guilds (w/ and w/o ONE fighting with us). The only plus side to last night was when Agg came on the map and we actually got some real fights.
Go home, troll. We don’t ‘randomly bash,’ we respect the opponents who earn it (like Agg, TW [now our allies], Ons etc), but call out those who need to step up their game.
I seem to remember oPP spawncamping about 8-10 RISE + FA pugs last time you were in the matchup. You guys get better or something? This glass house chest thumping is confusing.
If necros are so OP, why do i see about 5 enemy necros at most a week? OP for zergs, only because of the 10+ guardians buffing and keeping them up no?
For 1v1s:
Signet of Spite
Plague Signet
Dagger #4
No condition build can beat that. Now a stun warrior might be able to do a lot of damage, but any properly built necro is going to have around 25-26k hp. It takes a lot more than a single hundred blades to kill you. Add on fears, chill, cripple, deathshroud, and all your condition dps… there’s not really much any melee is going to be able to do.
Not many Necro roamers because of the movement speed, at least in T1. Too many zergs you have to dodge to be so slow.
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Necro’s are OP for zergs, you shouldn’t be complaining =p
They are also probably the best 1v1 class.
I’ve already bought a finisher, the SAB one. Besides finishers idk… maybe guild emblems or something? There’s not really a whole lot of them. End up seeing a lot of the same ones in WvW. Biggest problem my guild had with emblems was most of them were almost invisible on guild armor. There’s only a few that really look great, because of bold/thick lines that make them stand out.
I don’t think its OP it just has bugs (that work with and against the ranger). My favorite is having nothing but ranged weapons equipped, getting hit by it, and then having no way to attack it because for whatever reason the roots are behind you.
SBI and Mags got FA… either one could leech enough points to put themselves into gold. So while you unintentionally get points from TC, they also have the possibility of gaining a lot if they do well.
Indeed, the sheer number of bandwagon guilds and players lookin to be carried who stacked onto BG, it’s probably difficult to track who is who at this point.
If a NA guild wanted to be carried, they’d join SoR. If a SEA guild wanted to be carried, they’d join JQ. Now tell me again why the BG guilds would’ve gone to your server. I know it’s hard, but try thinking before you post.
Personally Tier 1 servers should just be given their own WvW meta and let the other servers play between themselves that way those that want to blob and win can blob and win and everyone else can play a more European WvW style.
http://mos.millenium.org/servers/view/36/105
This is your server. Let’s stop being silly here.
lol says a guy from a server with a warchest for recruiting.
Blackgate has been at the top of the NA pile for a while now, even after losing X amount of merc last week, BG still beat JQ by 30K. After complaining JQ was stacked.
For some of the BG posters on here – they act like chicken little.
You dont have to win everyweek, its ok to come 2nd once in a while. The world will continue to turn.
Let me give you a history lesson.
This is the week JQ stacked itself before free transfers ended:
http://mos.millenium.org/na/matchups/history/36
Notice how SoS still won by about 10k? JQ claimed the tier was balanced, everything was going to be fine.
This is the next week:
http://mos.millenium.org/na/matchups/history/38
Nothing changed on SoS that week, if anything SoS had better coverage than the previous weeks with the addition of VoTF and ND.
Now I do not even care who wins T1, I go out into WvW to play with my guild and have fun killing dudes. But I’m not going to let somebody stay ignorant when this has happened before.
so much for “SoS” SEA
SoS didn’t really have much SEA even when they were in T1. They’ve always been oceanic. Back then it was just MERC and AFS really.
Was great match this week. BG won. See you at reset XD.
Must be because MERC moving over to Jade Quarry left JQ completely stacked, while BG setting up war chests and recruiting guilds by the dozen over the last months does nothing.
Err, wait, am I late for all the “OMG you are stacked”, “No, you!” QQ? Sorry, will try to be quicker next time.
I don’t really care about this, but SoS also won the match that week you guys stacked during free transfers.
JQ merc, stop running away and porting, I just want to jump on you.
Not everyones transferred yet, so I exactly wasn’t in the mood to 10 v 40
So Stealthzor’s guild has nothing to do with merc then? Looked like a lot more than 10.
JQ merc, stop running away and porting, I just want to jump on you.
Once league starts and winning means something
I’m not so sure that the kinds of winning merc and tkg are seeking have the ability to mean something..
On the other hand, I for one think it’s GREAT that after all this time BGna will finally get a dose of being the one with significant coverage gaps.
You wont have any more excuses then…
Even if Waha pvds them to victory like old times no one will care. Everyone knows the winner of BG vs SOR is the real T1 champion
^5
Next match is master of the universe.
My favorite part about this: Tarkus says he’s going to focus our doors when he plays. Wear some gloves, you might get a splinter. :^)
Dont talk like they are forced to OT otherwhiles they would lose like crazy. They are so proud of being a guild that can run 12+ hours everyday
This guy gets it. They went there to PvD, that’s it. Watch out SoR, JQ might try to cannibalize what competition is left in that timezone even more.
Also the FEAR guild on JQ is MERC. Look at the guild name.
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What I don’t understand is why MERC is getting so much hatred and was even called bandwagoners for transferring to JQ. However, when Aco/Ward transferred to SOR, no one really complained about it. Hypocrite much?
What? You must not read these forums much.
Also if you don’t understand why MERC is getting called out then I don’t know what to tell you.
Hey guys, there’s a bright side to all of this. Though I think I’m going to need some gold so I can buy a permanent merchant… MERC do you have any spare gold?
That was the intention as I wanted to leave on a high note, yeah I did transfer last night. Its kinda disgusting though that the second that we leave that a lot of the leadership of blackgate turned feral, you wouldn’t have been in T1 if it wasn’t for our help and the way ICoa (Kin), KnT (Rid) and TMD (Choc) has reacted has effectively burnt all bridges. Nice to know all of the hours we put in got turned around so quickly.
From the reaction given to us not 6 hours in I know what server I’ll be focusing in Oceanic and late PST. No sympathy, I would’ve told you in channel but Choc banned me for a false rumor that was spread around in LA and has been continued to have been spread to make the war council feel satisfied with themselves.
I’m sure our doors give more than enough respect to you.
I’m glad to see there’s others with the same viewpoint as me. The ruins are making NA T1 really fun as well, haven’t had so many fights in awhile.
As a roamer, I love the capture points and the buff. I don’t particularly care about having the stat bonuses, but the stomp points are amazing. It really helps the servers who do not like to map zerg and have good roamers. It was pretty funny watching the other 2 servers zerg points with 40 and then lose their points elsewhere while they did that.
bitter about what? i am on the receiving end of your stacking when leagues come and no i don’t like being spawn camped.
Keep whining, I’m sure I’ll care more the more you do it.
It’s like the t1 servers don’t understand that leagues are coming out.
This is not even close to T1 exclusive, go check out the servers expected to be the top of silver league. It’s like you don’t even understand its 6 months later and you can stop being bitter.
You kidding right? Lol
Not at all. Either you don’t know what your server is doing, or you’re trying to play innocent. That’s fine, like I said, the rest of us know what is going on.
However, if a guild really wants to join your community and you really want them to be apart of that community are you going to say no? I think every server can agree they want a good stable community and if another guild wants to be apart of that who are we to judge that they cannot? Its easy for other servers to judge other servers on there recruitment, but when its the other way around. Things tend to change.
We don’t care what you do with your money, but let’s not lie here, every server knows what you’re doing.
BG’s highly skilled roaming groups
If you weren’t hiding in your tower, and your allies weren’t running away, that would be even numbers.
Just so you all know what RATS is composed of, the majority are up leveled Asuran characters. So, if you get steamrolled by an upleveled group of new to WvW players being trained, there may be an issue at hand
You might need to participate in one of SoR’s counting workshops. The majority of that zerg was not upleveled. There might have been a lot, but I tabbed through and found maybe 10-15 uplevels.
http://www.twitch.tv/therealjaypo/b/460077579
33min – 39 mins when you initially " hit us hard "
Think you might have got a couple downed. GJ.
Well, that is embarrassing… for them. I got so many kills during that fight just picking off random people who were respawning and ones falling down that cliff.
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First Guild Rally on FA
Weren’t you guys in JQ BL on Saturday night around 11pm est?
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I opened your stream and got a commercial about a tampon that opens up like a flower…
tailored ad Kappa
By my count 30 green dots on the mini-map, and for the love of god you’re in FA garrison trying to upgrade? We’re outmanned not dead. Funny you guys see one FA zerg and you think we should be ticking 400. That’s the only force on any of the BLs so yay i expect your blob to arrive anytime now.
He was joking, lighten up.
Also unrelated: check out EB vs Mags vs BP, dat match mang. Looks pretty good so far.
I actually agree with many of the points that you mentioned, but frankly, this goes both ways. At least in T1NA, a lot of the GvG guilds basically insult anyone who doesn’t GvG.
My guild has done some GvG before, but as a former GW1 guild, most of us are of the opinion that the current GvG is basically just a pale shadow of what it was. Now this isn’t the fault of any GvG players out there, but when other guilds claim that we are bads, or afraid to fight them because we don’t want to play their way, that’s when we have a problem.
So the bottom line is, I understand where you are coming from, and that GvG players get a lot of crap for what they are trying to do, but remember, that goes both ways. GvG players are quite frankly throwing stones from glass houses in a lot of cases when they make fun of the way other guilds wish to play, just keep that in mind.
I believe this to be the same opinion of many in T1 NA (that do not GvG). I had no idea SF was seeing the same hostility though.
Pretty disappointed to see AoI running 60+ and not breaking up into a couple groups after the first 10 minute rush on reset but I guess if that’s how deep your guild runs more power to you.
I don’t know if you knew, but we had 2 sometimes 3 commanders on the map. AoI, JINX, and a MAD commander I think it was… so we were in fact split into a couple groups. There was also about 15 roamers running around in the south. I think AoS (JQ) can verify that, they started chasing me on sight.
Also, who cares about the treb. You had the map. I doubt the tower was that hard to take anyway given the timezone.
Edit: Wow, just checked out the SoR thread… don’t let it become that here guys. Hope we can show FA respect throughout the week. Pretty sure neither of us asked to be paired up so no reason to be a jerk.
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I think Indo is making us do FOTM 5 next week. We struggled mightily to get through the first 4. TW will likely take the week off as it will truly require the whole team to handle this.
Pryan and Pathiss really have a hankering to get back into Orr as well.
Understandable, have to get that repair money somewhere. Might I suggest TC’s Orr? They seem to play to the SoR style.
Thanks for the word of encouragement.
It’s the least I can do. Maybe I can help you guys get 5 kills next week?
For what?
You tell me. You sure are trying real hard for something.
Oh man, we are making fun of names. It seems I really rustled someone’s jimmies. That’s like last-resort-I-cant-think-of-anything-to-say type comebacks.
You never told me how SAB was. Are you trying to keep it a secret?
Must have been a rough week at work to only play 20 mins. Hopefully things slow down for you next week so you can get some more play time in.
Raptr says I played 19hrs this week. You seem desperate Burl.
Just you. Over and over and over.
I died 4 times this week… so you got 4 kills? I assumed wrong, you guys aren’t doing too bad.
Yep….clearly missed the point of the post….
Keep repeating it, I’m sure you’ll change reality.
I think you missed the point of the post.
No, I think you are missing the point. A year of trolling and you cant even spot bait still. It’s fine though, I got the TW defense force to come out and reply to me eventually (I am missing a few though).
Have you guys gotten any kills this week?
No clue, how’s things in imaginaryworldwhereyoudontgetrolledbyTW?
Wow defensive aren’t we. I must have hit the nail on the head.
they’ve only been rolling the opposition open field all week.
I think you have been playing a different game.
You think wrong.
How is SAB?
they’ve only been rolling the opposition open field all week.
I think you have been playing a different game.