Wow people should read entire post before making such long remarks that are completely off base. Well don’t worry I did the same thing to your post I skimmed stoped reading after you missed the whole point THIEVES CANT SPAM STEALTH AND ATTACKS PERIOD ITS ONE OR THE OTHER. Please read the post next time we got limited initiative and it doesn’t allow for best of both worlds you got high power and few seconds of stealth or a lot of stealth and no attack that’s it end of story please play thief before you thy to defend nerfing it. STEALTH is necessary for STEALTH attacks this may sound weird but you cant take stealth away from thieves they have no uses other than roaming. All your crying got thieves nerfed down to these two builds they are beyond useless in wvw zergs and lets not even go into pvp or pve. So congratulations you got what you wanted a thief that is only good at one thing and now your complain about that one thing omg will you people never give up?
@bhagwad.4281
Is not a moa morph Ber Mesmer just as annoying as a stealth thief…..mass opinion yes you got stealth, clones, evade, invulnerable, spam conditions, teleport, and oh yah Mass AOE DMG no room to criticize thief there!
First off I would like to thank you for listening to some of our ideas from the previous events to make Dragon Bash more enjoyable! I personally enjoyed the new dragon ball, sure it was a little rough at first but still a game that was fun to play. The increased drop rates on the coffers to give people more chances over the drops on the previous events was also a very welcome change of pace. Some things that might need some looking at would be 100 jorbreakers for the wing set. I agree it should be rare but also available to the people who choose to enjoy the other activities the event has to offer. Maybe making jorbreakers a drop from a event or dungeon might make the 100 more obtainable. Some other ideas could be the addition of a world boss fight with a new dragon or a dragon themed jump puzzle. I realize this event still has some content left and some of the mentioned ideas might be released which would make an already good event even better. I noticed some of the things that frustrate majority of the people I talk to and read about is the low rates and no visual progress towards very nice event items; some ideas to this might be a token or system that rewards players with some form of currency to exchange by doing the events and still having a good time w/o needing to repeat one thing would probably make people less agitated and allow them to fully enjoy the released content your events have to offer. Some varied mini games with dragon themes might prove entertaining as well. I realize most people will probably post negatively to this , but before you post that I am only supporting this because I am one of the “lucky” ones, ill tell I run 200-300% mf and average about 250 coffers in a full days work not 1000 coffers in 5 hours also have not received one wing drop yet and I have opened a lot of coffers w/o a ticket, but I have not given up and will continue to try my best towards reaching my goals while trying to enjoy as much of the event as I can. Please let this be a thread for Helpful and Fun ideas to better improve these things rather than another complaint thread. Hope everyone is enjoying the event good luck and have fun!
So you admit its just your own inability to deal with thieves why your asking for all the nerfs? this class annoys me and I don’t like them nerf it……seriously O_o. Also I said that’s the only VIABLE builds we got left you don’t like it but you asked for it by getting us nerfed into these last 2 options only got yourselves to blame. I don’t like saying it but learn to play stealth isn’t the eles invulnerability or the guards block.
Thieves are not OP in fact we got nerfed so many times we are good at one thing that is trolling in 2 forms one is extreme single target spike in wvw and stealth troll which we cant do 1 attack because if we stopped spamming Initiative for stealth we would be dead in a second. not to mention after spamming Initiative for stealth we have none left over to attack . If thief ever does land a attack we got REVEAL and are dead unless its 1v1 against any ok players. So people want to nerf thieves again so we cant even be good at anything ….really? why not just ask for you class to be buffed and thief class to be removed all together save the time nerfing the class into extinction; sry but that’s basically what your asking for. People don’t even look at the other classes D/D ele, Beast Master ranger, Bunker/ retaliation guard, Ber Mesmer which have same extreme advantages and WAY more use in pvp, wvw, and pve. Thieves have roam wvw THAT’S IT we are terrible in pvp and pve. IMO in you want to see less thieves in wvw roaming then make them good at something else…..anything else really.
@ rezzet
sry but your completely wrong. Best mobility haha that a good one again I point you to builds I listed d/d way more mobility and press a few skills for full health and spam condition removal, then there are the war with perma swiftness and the long range rush and leaps…granted war are really hurting in pvp but you said mobility, then theres the ranger that doesn’t even have to chase you just send his BESERKER PET in while he runs completely BUNKER TANK REGEN. So people need to take in all the facts ex complain about the one thing thief is good at; as far as pve thief is by far the most underwhelming no denying it. Here is another fact people who spam stealth CANT spam attacks. Lets break this down to make it easier to understand; so this spam class is d/p and the black powder half the stealth combo =6 Initiative then you got the other half of the combo heartseeker which has to leap through the smoke field = 3 more Initiative. So that’s 9 Initiative for 3 seconds of stealth and any theories that they can still spam attacks after keeping those up is completely false. So please take in all the facts before you tear down one class for being good at ONE thing and try to make it nerfed so hard it will be good for NOTHING whatsoever.
I mean come on people, sure stealth thieves are annoying but look at this; other classes have the d/d ele, the ber mesmer, the beast master ranger, the bunker or retaliation guardian…..need I go on. Thief is good at one thing that’s walking around wvw killing people trying to wonder aimlessly or farm nodes. In pvp and pve thieves are beyond underwhelming and as part of the bigger wvw picture they contribute way less than any other classes. So to sum it up thieves can either be constantly stealth annoyances, that cant do much but troll or they can be extreme spike classes that are great vs single targets but can die really fast if they mess up. If a thief hits you they got REVEAL and remember if they are doing good dmg that means they are GLASS. There are few exceptions to this, but the thief needs the stealth to survive that’s it take that away and what do you have a really easy target.
That’s not a bad idea I like rewarding those with luck with rng and those without luck with something that can be attained through hard work. On the mat side I don’t find my mats to be that great with high mf either; I don’t know why I keep trying to move to different areas to avoid dr but doesn’t seem to work. Last I checked they were around 20 gold which isn’t bad I guess if you got the gold but still like to try to get drops myself rather than having to farm the gold any pay someone else. Just personal preference guess i don’t really buy or sell anything on tp like have my gear show the work i have done not what i have bought, if that makes any sense. Still the idea about rewarding people with luck with rng and those w/o with some sort of ticket system or hard work sounds like would make both those with and without luck happy.
@ demon of the light
If that were the case id be completely ok with that, but when every day and every event you fail to get the items that can only be obtained by luck it stops being rng and just turns to make people wonder if they in fact have any luck but bad. I don’t know I really like gw2 its a fun game and that’s what I play it for. Sure I don’t need these event skins but that’s why I play the game fun; I am not in the game to farm or make money I am not interested in these items to sell on tp I go in with the goal of just getting one for myself and then stop. Have not got one event item drop from any event and the non stop farm to try and fail is sort of ruining the reason I play the game; defeats the fun part that I enjoy so much. Take this dragon bash for example there are many fun things to do but im stuck killing mobs to try to get lucky drops which are not kind to most people so I hear; don’t get me wrong some people are really lucky and that’s great but I would much rather work hard for something and be proud of my achievement then luck into it, probably because I have no luck lol. I would get the candy for the wings but 100,000 is way to much farming and I would probably not want to play after that much pointless time spent if it was possible; and before you say it yes I know you can buy them, but you are just paying the people who get 5-10 of tkitteny luck and some people play the game for fun and don’t go into it looking to earn a lot of money. Sorry I know everyone is entitled to their own opinions but that’s just the way I view it rather hard work pay off than luck. Still working hard to find that one drop so I can enjoy the rest of this event. Gz to all those that got what you want good luck to those that haven’t.
Have fun!
I guess that makes sense, but if the drop rate is really that low the people that get 3-4 wing drops in one day is all that same luck factor and it was that way wouldn’t it make more sense for them to get 1 and someone else get 1 not one person gets 4 rest get 0?
That’s the funny part I am running max mf gear and the gem store mf booster and the larels magic find booster and max mf food. As for the lottery analogy; I cant see it since they got quite a few wing drops that would be the same as them winning multiple lotteries with 1 ticket. I figured the reason they got so many holo wings was because the drop rate on them really wasn’t so bad and it was just my random drop rate that was bad or just my same bad luck as always.
Na while getting a ticket would be great I didn’t really expect one my random drop chance seems to be way to low for something like that. I was really trying to get just one wing to drop with as much magic find as I could possible get but it doesn’t seem to help.
Friend of mine runs 0 magic find and had gotten 9 tickets and a few wings; I have been running 200-300% magic find using 2 boosters and food with 0 tickets 0 wing drops. It is not just this event either, same with Halloween flame and frost southsun every event magic find doesn’t seem to help find any of the special rare event drops. Somehow people are getting 5-7 wing drops while others run around killing mobs 7-10 hours daily with nothing; yes I know its just rng, but even rng states you eventually get something to show right? Is magic find not really helpful in the drop rate of wings or is my luck really just that bad?
@ihop
don’t suppose you would share that spot with the less fortunate trying their hardest to just get 1 set of wings to no avail? call it what you will, low random chance modifier on loot, bad luck, bad drop rate; whatever you want to call it, its not for a lack of effort.
Well now that crates and all related items stopped being for sale, I assume the event is over. So now can we please get some closure in the form of a statement saying if you didn’t get a skin, we either do or do not have a chance now? Lets people move on and either keep faith that they will still be able to try to get one or abandon all hope and come to terms with their horrible losses. Some answer would be nice here.
I know there are a lot of people who purchased a great deal of gem store crates in hope of getting a skin just to be disappointed; is there any chance at all you will help the many people frustrated by this by allowing us to maybe forge some of our items we got from failing rng just to get 1 account bound ticket. This doesn’t have to be a cheap forge by any means, but I am sure I am not the only one disappointed at the non existent drop rate of the weapon claim tickets. Before we get the very few people in the game saying they got one on their first box, that’s great for you but the majority didn’t. those that got them, most didn’t even want them those that did most likely didn’t. Yes this thread will probably get ignored and will probably not get an answer, even so it never hurts to try.
Well sad facts are in anets eyes these rng boxes “are working as intended” they use the less than 1% drop rates to reward 1 person and sadly sacrifice 100; or in this case 1000’s. They make awesome skins and make “luck” the only method of obtaining them. Imo no game should “luck” reward above hard work, that is a messed up system. All these people defending anets stance on this are either A) people the “blessed” with luck or people who don’t want the item anyway. As many people the did not bless with luck really want these skins and spent time and rl money in some cases only to get “sorry its rng” nothing we can do……..
Guild Wars 2 rewards players on different play styles. The casual gamer is awarded a level 80 character and usually full exotics of the dungeon vendor variety. The more dedicated gamer is awarded level 80 character with full Exotics and ascended accessories. However the lucky gamer is awarded basically anything their hearts desire; yes its called rng for a reason but in no game should player a and player b kill the same creature and one end up 600 gold richer. Yes its a personal opinion but why make the precursor luck only; rest can be seen with gradual progression even loadstones as rarely as they drop is small but progression is progression. Its currently a system that values luck above everything else.
I think the game was made with the intent to play at your own pace and have fun with it. In my own opinion, for the most part I think they have done a great job with this. Legendary are meant to be rare, and that’s fine most of the parts can be got with casual daily play, the exceptions being loadstones and the precursor. That being said its ok with me since the content will always be there and I can continue to play looking forward to my first pre without worrying about a time limit. The part that troubles me and probably most players are the limited content such as the Sclerite Weapon Claim Ticket in the new southsun event. This is limited time only, also currently there is only one way to obtain them; this being LUCK. They are account bound and require luck for the chest drop, and even more luck to get a ticket from the chest. The gem store isn’t any better, having bought a very large number and resulting in 0 Sclerite Weapon Claim Tickets; thus returning to the southsun shores trying my hardest to luck into one before event ends. This is the only part I see needs changed; luck is fine, where there is no constricting time limits and being account bound means those without luck are……well for lack of a better term out of luck me being one of them. Other content there is always tomorrow to get what you want but limited time only really seams to frustrate those left out. That’s really only thing I can see that could make a good game even better.
good luck and have fun all
2 completely different points the adventure box could be got with time dedication and hard work. these Sclerite Weapon Claim Ticket are just luck only and account bound. I have no problem with working hard to get something I want but no matter how hard I work wont improve my luck.
someone with an actual helpful post would be nice instead of people talking about their own luck, or making comments on sentence structure. once again not talking about people with luck if you read, clearly said without luck; not everyone is blessed with this luck factor people go on about. Yes, people have gotten a ticket on first box, but this is about those that go through hundreds with not 1 Sclerite Weapon Claim Ticket. I mean forging items you got while failing boxes anything but just luck just throwing ideas out there. Some constructive helpful ideas to help the less fortunate rather than gloating on your own luck would really help those that don’t share in your blessed luck.
well currently its the only way to obtain a Sclerite Weapon Claim Ticket yes not a great idea to spend that much money but some people do and im happy for the people that have luck and didn’t have to but not a complaint about rng because 3k hours and no precursor that’s completely fine figure one day it will happen so keep hopes up its the one time only things and since they are account bound anyway no harm since you cant sell them lol but in all honesty nothing will probably happen but no harm in asking reguardless still a great game just putting it out there for the people who don’t have really good luck
that’s great glad for your luck im just asking for the people without luck that buy over 100 boxes and get nothing im sure you feel great with luck but some people just don’t have that luck factor.
Just a question, was curious why the Sclerite Weapon Claim Ticket were so difficult to obtain some people by hundreds of dollars real world money buying the gem store chests not to get one ticket. I mean they cant be sold anyway so why the increase in difficulty I am not against rng in any way but only ask for a way that those that spent all that money can turn some of the stuff they got in for one they are account bound so figured if you went through the trouble of making the skins there should be some way for people without luck to enjoy them too any light shed on this would be greatly appreciated just saying if they spent good money trying and still failed might want to think about a way to keep them from feeling like it was just a waste if the ticket was only thing they were after.
good luck and have fun!
people who don’t want the item anyway. As many people the did not bless with luck really want these skins and spent time and rl money in some cases only to get “sorry its rng” nothing we can do……..