Guild Wars 2

Melchior.2135:

Honorable mention goes to the Centaurs, who were apparently in development as PCs early on, but are too much of a pain to animate in certain situations, and who would require major redesigns of all clothing below the waist and about half of all chest armor too, without even considering what would happen to the Foot slot for a race with hooves.

No, no, no, no, no!

Slaunyeh.9852:

Centaurs would top my wish-list. GW2 is, after all, the self-proclaimed “MMO Revolution.” It’s time to throw off the yoke of biped character model oppression!

Also Krait.

Nooooooooo!

Let me start by saying I’m primarily an open-world PvEer, so the staff may very well be more useful in dungeons, PvP, or WvW (I can certainly see it having it’s uses in zerg vs zerg).

I’ve got five characters at 80, the last of which to get full exotic gear was my elementalist. I took him for a Southsun karka-farming test-run yesterday, and I feel as though I’m working twice as hard as my other characters to get the same results. I’ve got to attunement jump and chain-skills together to do the same damage my other characters do with minimal effort and I’m not nearly as durable any of them. Now it’s not as though I didn’t expect to have to attunement jump to maximize effeciency; I just didn’t expect all that work to equate to such ho-hum results.

So against tougher mobs I’m working harder to get the same results as my other characters. Against trash mobs fireball spam is all that’s required, and that’s as interesting and engaging as it sounds (i.e. not very). And the the scarcity of densely packed mobs against which my AoE-strengths can shine means the one thing that’s supposed to set this character apart from my others rarely comes into play.

All in all, as a PvEer I’m finding the staff to be underwhelming. What about you?

PS – Now I know some people believe the staff is supposed to be the elementalist’s support weapon; but I disagree (in part). The lack of weapon swapping means every weapon set an elementalist can equi kitten upposed to be capable of filling more than just one role. The damage is there, it just takes a lot more effort than other professions to achieve.

TC, I’ve got to admit I’m bothered by your post.

MatthewMedina.5419:

a 5-man instance was really the thing that made the most sense for us to pursue, as it enabled us to best tell the conclusion to this story arc in the way that we wanted.

That sounds all well and good, but it kinda falls apart the first time someone joins a PUG with that guy who votes to kick someone because they actually want to watch the cutscenes.

ToT.7018:

Why should players now get an easy shortcut to world?

Because it was a bad design? Whether or not it actually is is up for debate, but what you’re advocating is this, “because those who came first had to suffer through a poorly designed feature, everyone should.” It doesn’t matter what the feature is, if ANet deems it poorly implemented and declares an intent to rectify it you’re saying they can’t because someone else already had to suffer through it in its current iteration and thus so should everyone else.

Wolfheart.1938:

But chances are you won’t be fighting Jade Quarry forever.

As a citizen of Blackgate, I’ve seen nothing but Jade Quarry for weeks and months on end. And they’ve always – always – got a group of people camping Obsidian Sanctum. That jumping puzzle looks hard enough without the Gank Squad waiting to troll me.

To TC, this topic has been broached many, many times and the answer from ANet is always the same…silence. In that silence I think it’s fair to read “no changes are planned.”

What I’m expecting is something along the lines of a cupcake that grants ~5k karma. What I’m wanting…hmm, I’m not sure. Not a precursor, that’s a bad way to make them more accessible.

clay.7849:

Nope, wrong again. By definition the combat is shallow. Maybe you should read up on that.

I am shocked – SHOCKED! – to find Mr. Mopey in yet another topic trying argue for the sake of arguing. I’m as equally shocked – SHOCKED! – that Mr. Mopey takes views his own opinion to be the standard by which all facts are measured.

If your goal is to “max a character out” (i.e. you’re interested in the destination), then playing multiple characters is only going to slow you down. Otherwise (i.e. you’re interested in the journey), playing multiple characters at once can be quite enjoyable.

Personally, I played one character of each race simultaneously, and each was built to play different than the rest. The difference in play style and the difference in locations meant I could continuously switch between them without burning out on leveling or world exploration.

If you think the “rainbowy lollipop” looks out of place on an elementalist, imagine how necromancers must feel.

Drew.1865:

I’ve seen it in forums on other mmos and it really doesn’t make sense why someone who loves a game so much they would spend time arguing with people on the forums just because the person being critical has the opinion the game could be better instead of spending that time playing.

It really doesn’t make sense why someone who hates a game so much they would spend time arguing with people on the forums just because the person being supportive has the opinion the game is on the right track instead of spending that time playing something they do enjoy.

Funny how that works both ways, huh?

Drew.1865:

Is tripe a word you use in the outback?

Did Drew seriously just mock someone for having an extended vocabulary? I mean, I knew this guy wasn’t to be taken seriously, but I didn’t think he’d make that obvious.

Do the same things you enjoyed on the way to 80?

clay.7849:

Again, are you able to stay out of any negative threads I make? Can we make an agreement then that everyone should stay out of everyone elese’s thread when they disagree?

Stop being so childish. And stop trying to derail OP’s thread.

Poplolita.2638:

hmmm. I don’t see any hypocrisy in clay’s posts.

The hypocrisy is that every time someone makes a thread praising the game or the developers Clay shows up with his mopey attitude to rain on their parades, when he could instead “just let it go and forget about it”.

clay.7849:

Sorry, but the company, IMO, has let down their GW1 fanbase. As such, I can’t support a development team that turned their backs on the fanbase that made them successful.

I’m a GW1 vet, and I don’t feel they’ve turned their backs on the fanbase that made them successful. I’m sorry that you do, but I’m also glad you don’t speak for everyone.

Jordo.5913:

another thing is queensdale is the least centaur raided zone, its an actual human krytan zone….though the east side of kessex hills is still nice….the west side had its beauty destroyed by centaurs….and genderran fields is just awful with the amount of centaur camps desecrating the land

i think thats why i prefer queensdale to the others

I’d thought about that, too. Quiet time in Queensdale feels like a time to relax and unwind a bit. Quiet time in the other zones feels like a time to rebuild the defenses in preparation for the next centaur raid.

The laurel gathering tools are nice convenience items for those of us who are not particularly worried about ascended trinkets. Is there any chance we’ll see laurel salvage kits added at some point?

Torvic.8256:

A large part of the reason, at least for those who’ve also played Guild Wars: Prophecies, may also be that Queensdale is the closest thing in GW2 to GW1’s pre-Searing Ascalon in terms of looks, feel and serenity, all of which was lost forever after the Searing.

I never thought of that. I assumed my sense of nostalgia was because my first character was human, making Queensdale my first zone. But you may very well have just hit on something with that.

Boinky.4092:

This week, when ANet released more unrelated trivia in the upgrade to SAB, I got livid. I paid 80 bucks for a special addition of a game in 2013 and now they spend their work time re-creating a flat-dimension game from the 1990’s.

Setting aside your misconception of “their work”, you seem to be implying that they should only work on content you like. There are more people than yourself playing Guild Wars 2. And believe it or not, not all of them like the same sort of stuff. ArenaNet is well within their right to work on aspects of the game that others enjoy, even if you do not.

Invizible.2960:

what do you like about queensdale?

I’m not sure. I thought it was because of the environment. The grass just seems a little greener, the sky a bit bluer. The perpetual overcast in Kessex Hills just saps the joy out of the zone for me. But I enjoy Lost Shore despite its drab color palette.

Then I thought it might be the pockets of serenity; the pond by Claypool, the Hunter’s Lodge in Queensforest, and Edna’s Orchid are great examples. But other zones have equally relaxing locales.

As mentioned by Marcus Greythorne, it could be the number and variety of events. From bandits raiding farms to trolls rampaging the countryside, there’s never a shortage of fun events in which to play. But, again, Queensdale hardly has the monopoly on Dynamic Events.

Ultimately, I think it’s the community. The traffic in Queensdale is never lacking. And I’m guessing that, more than anything, is the reason I enjoy it so much more than the others. That’s probably why I enjoy Lost Shore, too.

Yargesh.4965:

Why ask strangers for justification?

If a stranger shares the same preference, then discussing it with them might help me the reason I prefer one and not the others.

but dislike the rest of the Krtan zones (with the exception of Kessex Hills, which I hate)?

If we’re losing someone who refers to those with whom he disagrees as “fanbois and losers” I’d say good riddance.

Corbinocoff.1398:

Thank you for the replies, I think I will try both of your suggestions, play the dailies on the higher level characters and delete and create lower ones until I Find something I want to stick to

Bear in mind that playing the same content (low level zones, in this case) repeatedly can, with some players, lead to burnout. And if you’re going to be deleting characters often, remember to bank their gear and money and spend their karma on something account-bound that your other characters can use (i.e. salvage kits, gathering tools, etc).

Play each of the characters you enjoy equally. Every time you log in, do so on a different character. Or log in on whatever character best helps you complete the Daily Achievements. If your warrior is in Kryta, and your Elementalist is in Ascalon, play the warrior when the Daily requires 40 kills in Kryta and the Elementalist when it requires 4 events in Ascalon.

As someone who loathes that other game’s overuse of particle effects, glowing eyes, etc, I hope ANet doesn’t overdo things here.

All, and I’ll even offer my suggestions on who should get what.

Warrior
Torch
Off-Hand Dagger

Guardian
Warhorn
Longbow

Ranger
Staff
Off-Hand Sword

Thief
Off-Hand Sword
Rifle

Engineer
Mace
Hammer

Elementalist
Sword
Greatsword

Necromancer
Sword
Greatsword

Mesmer
Off-Hand Dagger
Main-Hand Pistol

In addition to providing attack and defense, weapons and armor increase up to three stats. The different combinations of stats are named. Berserker’s weapons and armor increase Power, Precision, and Critical Damage while Soldier’s weapons and armor increase Power, Toughness, and Vitality. More can be found here…

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Item_nomenclature

This stuff is harder than steel and more precious than platinum. It keeps an edge well enough to be used in weapons, is malleable enough to be fashioned into armor, and is a key component in the most valuable jewelry in the known world. It’s even useful in the brewing of magic potions! Is there anything this miracle metal can’t do!?

Dolphins please.

These are supposed to be one-time purchases. I purchased one of each long ago, but noticed today they’re now available again. Is this a bug? Or was the purchase history intentionally purged at some point?

I suppose I could get each of my characters the laurel gatherings tools, but that would cost a total of 30 laurels just for convenience items. Not a bad option, but not a great one either.

cmking.2391:

I guess my real question is: how can I compare to the thief’s AoE damage with the ranger while staying mobile, and do they ever get an area slow like the thief’s caltrops? Any tips?

Rangers have access to Barrage, Muddy Terrain and Spike Trap for AoE cripple and Frost Trap for AoE chill. I don’t know how their damage compares to that of a thief’s short bow, as I only used thief’s SB to tag mobs during DEs.

jayb.1329:

so….by that logic….would you also get annoyed if people were fighting skritt somewhere in your vicinity while you were chatting with a buddy?

I wouldn’t, because there’s actually a purpose to fighting a skritt other than bragging rights/trash talking/“look at me!”.

jayb.1329:

theres no reason that it shouldn’t be implemented because of players like you

And there’s no reason that it should be implemented because of players like you. That’s what we call an impasse. All that’s left is for each of us to pray the developers come down on our side of the argument.

penatbater.4710:

No.. just, no. I’ve seen some screenshots of wow mods and its ridiculous as to the amount of buttons and keys you have on screen. It may be a synch for vet players but it easily daunts new players. I tried to play wow, and the normal hotkey bars were enough for me. I find the notion that you NEED mods to play a game more effectively ridiculous.

Personally, I deplore that game in large part for the very reason you’ve mentioned. I’m all for a very small number of skills on a skill bar and a clean UI, I just wish we had more flexibility in how we constructed our characters.

ShiningSquirrel.3751:

It would show other players you where looking. 2 players meet, they both accept the duel, they disappear in to an instance. That would be fine, and I can’t see any reason the duelists would reject that.

Because they want to show everyone how “kitten” they are. Other than that, I can think of no logical reason to impose your desire to duel on people who don’t want to see or hear dueling.

jayb.1329:

The anti-duel side is composed of people who only want things their way.

Bull! Both sides, since you’re not really reading the thread, have agreed that an isolated arena/zone in which duels can occur without infringing upon the PvE environment is acceptable. And the “I only want things my way” element of the anti-duel party is no more egregious than that of the pro-duel side.

No Walking.6349:

So you’re going to take out a major part of a game that many players would absolutely love to have, simply so you don’t have to go into your options a single time and check a single box?

Yeah….selfish

So, you’re going to implement a minor part of a game that many players would absolutely hate to have, simply so you don’t have to go into the Mists and and enter an empty PvP server?

Yeah…selfish.

clay.7849:

GW2 isn’t the only game with this problem. Trash mobs are trash mobs, if you can run past them, usually people will. If mobs held aggro longer/further, you would see this kind of thing disappear.

I’ve wondered why they haven’t implemented a system wherein every trash mob killed increases your odds of rolling better loot from chests by a percentage large enough to entice players to fully clear dungeons but not so large that clearing dungeons becomes mandatory.

Mirta.5029:

the thing is not doing what they’ve done
- making access to crafting harder
- adding competition for gathering (when a node is gathered by anyone it will disappear)
- crafting not giving exp
would have regressed this MMO back. A lot of people love the fact that we all can gather (myself included), because we remember just playing with a friend and having to chose different gathering professions so we wouldn’t steal each others stuff. Or at higher levels camping a node spawning point and trying to be the first one to get there when it respawns. So while it’s partially their fault if it wasn’t done this MMO would be less satisfying.

Don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying I disagree with the direction they took crafting. I personally would have limited each character to just two crafting disciplines, but I actually like that there’s no competition for crafting nodes and that crafting gives experience. All I’m saying is ANet shares an equal share in the blame when it comes to the economy with regards to crafting.

eleozz.9056:

yeap we’d like to see this and even more emblems +1 from me

I’m sure we’ll eventually be able to purchase Random Guild Emblem Packs.

Mirta.5029:

well it’s just how economic ended up at this point. It’s not Anet’s fault. All players are responsible for it. And besides, if you get an exotic drop you’re going to sell it cheap because it cost you nothing to make.

It’s not entirely ANet’s fault, but it is partially their fault. They designed the game. They decided to remove competition from resource gathering. They decided to give all characters access to all crafting discipline. This has made it very easy for players to use crafting solely as a means of gaining experience, which in turn has lead to a glut of finished goods on the Trading Post.

Rather than telling us “clipping issues are preventing cloaks”, which I take to mean “because cloaks don’t work on charr, none of you can have them”, why not implement race-specific back pieces?

Humans could have cloaks. I’m not sure what the rest could have (fur/hides for norn?), but I’m sure ArenaNet could think of something aesthetically pleasing and racially appropriate for each of the races.

I’d like to see rapiers added as weapons skins (possibly with alternative attacking animations). If they’re added in this manner we can have rapiers, scimitars, katana, etc, added without having to worry about new weapon skills and balancing issues.

killcannon.2576:

darkace.8925:

killcannon.2576:

Conner.4702:

Dueling in MMO’s is a developers nightmare due to the constant whining over under and over powered classes. I rather stick my head in burning lava than to deal with that insanity.

Because that doesn’t happen now?

Of course it does. But we aren’t inundated with it while we play. You know what doesn’t happen now? kitten contests right smack in the middle of my PvE. I’d prefer to keep it that way.

As stated previously, it can happen in a controlled and tasteful manner. I completely agree and understand where you are coming from though. I never want to experience a Goldshire again.

Goldshire is exactly what comes to my mind every time someone requests dueling. As you say – and I’ve said previously – PvE can be insulated from dueling if it’s implemented. I wouldn’t mind it if it’s quarantined off like the disease that it is. But I’ll be extremely kitten if this lovely world ANet has crafted degenerates into another Goldshire.

danbuter.2314:

I bought the cat. He’s awesome.

He’s got a monocle. A MONOCLE!!!

/drops to knees while shaking fists dramatically at the heavens.

killcannon.2576:

Conner.4702:

Dueling in MMO’s is a developers nightmare due to the constant whining over under and over powered classes. I rather stick my head in burning lava than to deal with that insanity.

Because that doesn’t happen now?

Of course it does. But we aren’t inundated with it while we play. You know what doesn’t happen now? kitten contests right smack in the middle of my PvE. I’d prefer to keep it that way.

RedCobra.7693:

yeah rising duck forgot to mention that, ofc you get the amulet first but after that spend laurels for 3 t6 mats per laurel, if you get 3 powerful blood thats 95s right there for 1 laurel

From a purely money standpoint, that’s a long stretch. The odds of getting three bloods is .2, if I’m not mistaken. I would imagine the odds of getting an exotic from the equipment box are significantly better than that.

But either way, even if I did get the T6 material bags I’d save them for the Gifts necessary for a Legendary weapon. Like I said, I have everything I need. Everything get at this point is just a miniscule stop towards a Legendary (I play casually, so grinding dungeons and/or Pent/Shelt aren’t my thing).

I hope and pray duels are never added to this game. If they are going to be implemented, for the love of God, please have duelists locked away in some remote corner of the Mists so that I never, ever have to see or hear them in the game.