I understand your point completely. However if you find a class that is right for you and build that is right for you I don’t think you will find HoT all that bad (:
They didn’t reinvent the wheel and call it content. They said, that this expansion would be lighter on content while they set up the game for future expansion so they could move the game forward.
That’s what was said. That’s what they did.
In other words, they asked us to pay for the gateway to more Living Story and called it a light expansion. And people got happy because they heard the word ‘expansion’, so it silenced the expansion crowds’ demands for it.
But in truth, all we did was pay for delayed Living World content which would’ve been free otherwise.
Good to know.
Apart from:
We got maps (4) all bigger than living world
Every map we GOT was much bigger than the LS ones
We had end game progression given too us
We got raids
We got access to an ENTIRE new CLASS
all the various points I stated in my above post.
HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO SAY THIS. LOOK AT LS AND LOOK AT HoT. HoT BLATANTLY GIVES SO MUCH MORE TO US THAN LS!!!!!
Call me a fanboy but to be honest I’m tired of all these meaningless complaints
Am I the only one finding it frustrating that mastery points are tied to these difficult and annoying mini games? It’s nigh on impossible to get even bronze on many of them. Coupled with the fact that they’re often closed, I have given up hope of ever getting enough mastery points to max my level.
Mini games are farely easy to get a bronze on. Any way they are a good way of getting cool rewards and also they are not the only way to get mastery points. There are many ways.
It gives us 4 maps
YES!
It gives us loads of story
Nope
It gives us raids “which take a lot of time”
Hell YES!
The maps it gives us each have three layers
Yeah!
It gives us elite specialisations
“Specializations” … and yes! kinda the deal maker!
It basically gives us a whole new layer of progression.
Towards what? meh things!
I think that is quite a lot of content if you ask me.
And you missed the OP new class!!! also kitten looking.
-and finally have places worth calling endzones! … the bosses and mob designs are amazing!
Yeah you have a point in that the story isn’t actually that long to be fair, BUT there was LS2 before that which meant that story wasn’t too incomplete (for me anyway). Oh yes forgot about revenent as well (cool class!).
Anyway my point was that it is worth £35
Do Ele because Ele is awsome.
Because ele.
WTH is a revenent? you meant Revenant?
You know what I mean lol!
“Dungeons in Guild Wars 2 once rewarded players who enjoy organized parties, epic challenges, and delving deeper into the secrets of Tyria.”
Lol :P
While they’re at it, they could also remove dungeons, and replace them with fractals and raids.
Yeah that sounds good, although they should still keep info about dungeons somewhere :P
I don’t remember the price but it was resonable for what you get with the original GW2.
All the content you could imagine, hearts, skill points, meta events, events, jumping puzzles, crafting. ALL progressed your character. AND it wasnt more that 50 bucks.
TONS OF CONTENT, TONS OF OPTIONS TO PLAY (anyone can find their flavor).HOT – I payed 100… the content doesnt exist.
-They tried to make up for the fact there is actually VERY LITTLE content, by making timed, and gated content. (Meta events where you have to wait hours before the next, Mastery points, where you must complete annoying mini games (where you must do them if you want a shot at collections))
-After 4 weeks, there is nothing left to do but spam lfg to try and find an organized group to do the metas. If you dont get in one… wait a few more hours.TOTAL LACK OF CONTENT on H.O.T
The original GW2 is cheaper, more content, and no forced…gated…grindy crapola.
We are NOT Idiots! If you have time to make all this stuff for the trading company for gems…1st week of release of H.O.T. It’s obvious where you priorities are going forward.
I payed to play a game like GW2. H.O.T is nothing like tyria.
Tyria has things to do for every spectrum of gamer.
H.O.T – Not so much.
I wish I could ask for a refund but am stuck with this…knowing there is WAAAAY more to do in the NOW FREE original version.
WHY ISNT HOT anywhere near the same amount of content as the original.
-It costs more to purchase it.
-There is no content (no added dungeons, fractals, a terrible pvp map)
-TELL ME WHY YOU HAVE WAY MORE TO DO IN THE FREE VERSION? THAT I PAYED FOR?
-WHY IS HOT A TOTAL SLAP IN THE FACE TO ANYONE WHO PURCHASED?
-HOT is NOT an “Expansion”. should have been 20$ or less with the amount of garbage we get compared to tyria.
-IT’s NOT an expansion…more like a dlc pack.
-Watch them try to make us PAY for more of this garbage down the road.
-If anything for H.O.T costs more money. HAHAHA NO WAY
free unlimited content> a few hours of expensive gaming. where everything is gated behind mastery points and mini games (terrible mini games too)
It gives us 4 maps
It gives us loads of story
It gives us raids “which take a lot of time”
The maps it gives us each have three layers
It gives us elite specialisations
It basically gives us a whole new layer of progression.
I think that is quite a lot of content if you ask me.
Umm, Rev does have its own page.
Not on the page I had the link too…
It annoys me that revenent is not on this https://www.guildwars2.com/en/the-game/professions/ page. It should be as it is a class now.
Oh and also plz add elite specialisation info on there, new players need to know what they are!
Thanks.
Yeah was so annoying I found out that (spoiler alert!)
eir died
Because of that when people don’t use the spoiler function
so thanks
This is one of the main types of Tempest builds I thought about when they revealed it. Soldier’s runes on tanky armor, warhorn with the trait that gives AoE stun-breaks, Full shout build for the condi cleanses, etc.
It should also work quite well for WvW commanding.
Sounds like a solid build. Im gonna use this build for raids to ele tank http://gw2skills.net/editor/?vFEQJBLhdyxA0zAW4A4gJwhJW2AM37ag9wSsCuAnxhHQA4CC-TBhAABYq+DAex8HYr8jP9EAA-e
Be aware that I will probably be using only exotic gear at the moment (I can’t craft ascended yet!) but I think it will be a pretty tanky build!
So I would like to make a support tempest build to do a lot of healing and boons. Would Magi be my best bet for gear?
Ps: This is a raid build!!!!!
Yup, I did a raid today and I was a tank. And an ele. Its possible with soldier gear!
Contains major spoilers here!!!!!
now Trahearne has died I with my fave character is Canach. Before Treahearne my Fave was Forgal until he died
Soooo what character do you guys like most?
^Hmm maybe i’m getting confused. I thought that some of the other chapters were non replayable. I might be wrong tho
I loved how the whole of season 2 was replayable. Please Anet it would be great if EVERY chapter of the HoT storyline was replayable including the Prologue and the chapters without any actual instances in them. I want to be able to replay the whole story on the same character. Also it would be great if the Personal story Instances were replayable. There are bits I wan’t to replay on my ele but I don’t want to create a brand new character just to replay bits of the story.
Cheers
I do hope so…
I get your point, its nice to have new content for the holidays, BUT they did do Wintersday pretty much fine last year. Toypocalypse maybe needs a few tweaks though but thats just minor. As long as I get to spend hours of my life on that JP and hours more wondering around Divinities reach throwing snowballs I will be happy lol
I expected some bugs at beginning of the expansion as its only just been released, but I’m loving all of the content so far! Its epic! Thanks Anet I will have many hours of fun enjoying this new content
It’s only been 3 days. If you haven’t unlocked all the masteries it’s not the end the world. Just play the game guys. You can finish it in a couple of months and that’s the idea. And yes some people have finished unlocked all core masteries and most of HoT masteries.
Thank you ANet for not making contents that can be done in one day (for the vast majority of the players).
I agree
For people who keep claiming that others want everything given to them, I hope I can put that one response to bed:
I am fine working and waiting for ascended gear.
I am fine working and waiting for skins.
I am fine working and waiting for a title.
I am fine working and waiting for masteries.
I am fine working and waiting to unlock playable content (ex: fractals).I’m fine working and waiting for basically anything except:
Traits and skills, i.e., builds
exotic gear.I don’t want everything, most people posting agree with the above, so please stop with the we want everything handed to us crap, we don’t.
People have a specific request: Let us unlock and play with the elite specs and go through the expac with that spec. It’s not asking everything, it’s asking for that one thing only.
I actually don’t want everything handed to me, in fact I want the opposite: I’d like to progress and work towards many different goals, at my own pace, using the build I want.
If they would just make elite specs a 60 hp unlock like the rest 99% of the qq about HoT would be gone instantly. It is all people are asking for, and it’s very reasonable.
Yes but some people want progression, and its not progression if you get your heroic spec immediately.
10/10 no lie. The game is epic, best expansion i’ve ever played.
Yes I love HoT and am enjoying it SOOOO much so thanks Anet!!!!!
Its started downloading. I will play it when I get home and have worked… Ok, I can last a few more hours waiting… Its here guys! Its here! WOAHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!
I assume masteries will be used.
^ok thank you
I’m getting so much lag I can’t even log into the game. Its driving me crazy.
Elementalists always!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yeah! Elementalist for the win!
I will main tempest because I love my ele and have pretty much always mained him.
I would say It took about just under a level an hour for me
I think those Hylek are just aggressive towards people, and are not actually fighting for Mordy himself. It might have just been a bug maybe?
Hi guys. I just wanted to say I’ve been using soldier gear on my ele (exotic I think) and its amazing! I still do a lot of damage so I am useful in boss fights and general PVE, but I am sooo survivable. There have been soooo many times where i’ve won my group a fight becuase i’m the last man standing and I manage to finish off a boss etc. Combined with healing power, I think ele with soldier is the most survivable build i’ve EVER tried. What are your thoughts?
ps I am talking about pve here as that is pretty much all I do at the moment (I do a little bit of WvW sometimes!).
I really hope we have something other than Mordrem to fight in HoT.
I’ve been playing Silverwastes pretty much every day since it came out. Not because its the most interesting place to be, but because:
1. it has the best rewards, and
2. it has the most challenging open world pve contentIts literally made every other part of the world a waste of time.
Don’t get me wrong here, I’m not complaining about SW. I love it. But fighting the same mobs day after day is getting really old. And the prospect of fighting nothing but Mordrem in the expansion is starting to worry me, as we’ve already been fighting them exclusively for almost a year…
If there really is nothing else coming then I seriously urge ANET to look at revamping some of the meta events on existing maps. There is plenty of interesting events/mobs out there to fight, but they don’t reward anything near like SW does.
Does anyone else feel the same?
I’ve been doing a lot of jumping puzzles and alt leveling so i’m not to board of mordrem yet… I’ve done a bit of Silverwastes but I haven’t overdone it.
PS. We get to fight Hylek in HoT
Scavenger’s Chasm isn’t hard but is long if you have no knowledge or guide.
Mad King’s Clock Tower is my favorite, isn’t hard as well but requires fast jump barely giving you time to stop for a few seconds for a better positioning.
Troll’s Revenge is probably the hardest due to the fact that is long, at some point falls = death and can be very misleading regarding the correct path.
Before that, the only jumping puzzle that I would find “hard” was Dark Reverie. Hard between quotes because the path per see isn’t difficult but there is this one jump near the end which is death if you aren’t exactly on the right spot.
Yes I must agree trolls revenge is rather hard. I think it might be harder for me than winter wonderland. I haven’t managed to complete Trolls Revenge yet!
Super adventure box
Never done that one. I would like to though.
Human Ele I like
Also Sylvari hunter
Also Sylvari Engineer lol
You have to love Sylvari Engineers lol
Although my fave race combo with engi is probably Human to be honest.
Actually Skipping stones is pretty hard
What do you think the hardest jumping puzzle in the game is? My answer- winter wonderland. (Winter wonderland is so fun though!)
I’m really looking forward to raids and I’d really like to try them as soon as possible Err… don’t expect me to be very good at them though
Nope, it’s purely cosmetical. On the other hand you have to equip items for the Chest, leg and Boot slots for max armor rating – this can be lvl 1 white item too without stat, you just have to have something in those slots.
There is a PvP build menu on the middle top of your screen while in the Heart of the Mists, you can set your stats there in form of an amulet, along with runes, sigils etc.
cool thanks
I’m a complete noob when it comes to pvp. So, does gear matter in PVP at all?
Am I fan of raids? Actually yes. I did them a lot in Wow and did them in ff14.
The main reason I came back to gw2 full time now as my only game is because as an adult the game is beyond perfect for an hour at a time play which is the most I can do.
Seeing from any mmo in the past, and how this one is structured I see it taking well over an hour at a time for casual players to complete these raids. I fear it’s going to involve way to many people trying to be hardcore, talking down to players, kicking players who are trying to get this done.
This just isn’t what gw2 was made for I thought…..
Although I’m a massive fan of GW2, I can’t see myself being amazing at the raids However, I don’t think they will take much more than an hour to complete. From my experience, GW2s content, however hard core, is accessible to casual players. Take the fractals, the most they’ve ever taken for me is about an hour and a half. PVP can also be practised by Casual players. Raids will be harder, making it so you need more experience to do them well, but I doubt they will take much longer than an hour to actually do. Also, if you don’t like the raids, you can just enjoy the events and general open world PVE, not to mention the new WvW borderlands
Theres a lot of new content coming, and you don’t by any means HAVE to do the raids
I myself am going to spend my first few weeks when HoT comes out doing the Story and Exploring the maps
Well the fact that they have got free to play means that I should be able to get more of my friends to play GW2. Therefore I am happy
Without the Pale tree to protect them, wouldn’t they be more vulnerable to falling to Mordremoth?
Yes.
Also, wasn’t Aerin Soundless?
Depends on how you define Soundless, but he was seemingly cut off from the Dream so I guess, yes.
And if he was had he turned to Mordemoth?
Never explicitly stated but it seems pretty definite, so yes.
Was that why he went mad?
It seems to have been a combination of being Soundless and proximity to Mordy (the Zypherites were over Maguuma after all).
Cool thanks
I think the hackers should be teleported into a pillory with a box of rotten tomatoes nearby for others to chuck at the offender.
lol
Without the Pale tree to protect them, wouldn’t they be more vulnerable to falling to Mordremoth? Also, wasn’t Aerin Soundless? And if he was had he turned to Mordemoth? Was that why he went mad?
Lolololol. EOTM is WvW.
Let me quote a song here by saying “you put lipstick on a pig and it’s still a pig.”
Just because people like to use EOTM for ktrains doesn’t mean it’s not still WvW. Saying that’s not WvW just means you’re one of the babies who throws a fit when there’s something other than ktrains going on in EOTM and come to the forums to rage because WAH WAH fights happened in a player versus player zone how awful!
That is a very good point
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