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I don’t want to sound too beggy and I know with the new HoT patch coming out I don’t think A-net has the time, but as a long time GW1/GW2 player I found my favorite type among all to be AB/JQ/FA (alliance battles, jade quarry, and fort aspenwood).
I think it could bring back a lot of life into GW2 with the 3 part sync system, and it’d add a lot of versatility to how things are played.
Not only would it add that pvp dimension for large scale fights but it’d reduce the zerging if the added objectives like GW1 were implemented..
Protecting the turtle, repairing stuff… etc
It’d also bring back the jobs that people love to do such as bunk, zerk etc without others getting mad I think it’d be a much friendlier gamestyle
It was a very fun game type and I’d be interested to see it come in the future.
- Dusty, Grandma’s Molasses, Cream
<3
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complaining about turret engi is one thing
complaining about celerifle is another…
if you’re having trouble with cele rifles you need to re-evaluate your build, or how you go about fighting a cele engi…
IGN: Crëäm
Play: PvP, some FoTM, some dungeons
Server: Fort Aspenwood
Role: Scholar
Gametime: Mornings, Evenings
Who said you had to play a build like that to defend? Yeah bunking is obviously the best option, but can’t you defend with power builds? As long as you’re killing the enemy and what not. If you want a more interesting game maybe run an offensive build, but play defensively. A-net is not the reason you’re having a boring experience.
I am irritated by the lack of solo queue, but I’ve won against many premades, and I don’t think that’s really a problem. Bad players can form a premade.
I think I’m more disappointed in the lack of balance that this game has. Right now it’s clear Engineers are the clear favorite, if you run 3 turret engis in a match against a bunch of pugs which is technically the leaderboard right now, you’ll win 90% of the matches.
It’s frustrating because of the lack off effort of any person that plays that build, and the amount of effort it takes to beat it only to have the guy respawn 15s later to repeat the same process.
And the MMR is complete garbage. I think it’s ridiculous that even if you get a high MMR A-net has decided that you’ll have to carry a bunch of noobs to victory, and against any decent team 1 person can not carry the whole team even if they were Five Gauge (I’ve seen him carry on his stream, but even to a point he can’t save every team).
This game is not only broken in pvp, but broken in PvE. I can’t count the number of exploits, and honestly the RNG is a little bit garbage considering I’ve gotten 3 Fractal weapons in ~400 runs (that’s less than .01% by the way).
So yeah I don’t expect HoT to be that great, and I’m sure Revnant will be OP for the first couple of months until A-net decides to balance that or makes enough money from the x-pac.
Good games Grouch!
Please nerf the turret engi.
Bring back PVP and not PV AI..
Matches aren’t as interesting… the trolls are coming out of their bridges in masses, and I’m so sick of solo queueing against 2-3 turret engis a match
Bring PvP back!
TURRET ENGI NERF HYPE FORUM LETS GO!
GET THE HYPE GOING!
tronjeremy for president
backpack for president
I’m all for the nerf turret engi, but that’s not what I’m going to QQ about.
I’m more upset about the system that we have. I generally solo queue, because I find it more fun that way, and generally I’m getting stuck against full premades in UNRANKED. I wish we could go back to the Solo Queue/Team Queue because this is ridiculous, and I’d also like to add that it’d be neat if you guys implemented a system for solo queue where if you won the match you’d continue on to the next this would reduce queue times I feel, and it’d be interesting.
On another note I faced a full premade running 2 turret engis, 2 cele eles, and a condi ranger. I’m sorry, but that was a BIT excessive.. especially for unranked.
I also play unranked to avoid try hards and all of the annoying turret engis, but it seems that queue is even plagued now. Turret engineer makes pvp noob friendly I get it all of the bad players play turret engineer because they can’t do anything on the other classes, but I think the build is a bit too noob friendly, and it’s making pvp lack the pvp. I feel like I’m fighting tequatl in all of my matches.
Please fix pvp. For all of us.
Sooo was playing songofdestruction tonight aka star light and he was completely invisible on ele and blowing me up
here are the screenshots
I have a champion Genius I don’t run Celes. Melandru/ Sentential with a sheild.
Yeah I’ve played against you several times and I’ve seen that you just bunker down on a point worse than most turret engis, and that’s fine. I never found that type of combat exciting, but if you want wins that’s the way to go.
I don’t think anyone should be rewarded.
The winning team comp =
2-3 Celes, decap, condi/burst/celeThis game isn’t esports it’s fashionwars…
That’s why the rewards are all cosmetic, and the tournaments are worth 10,000$ compared to LoL tournies which are what 1mil+?The strategy involved in this game is very basic, and if you think you’ve accomplished something by spamming games which I did the same you’re not.
This game is fun don’t get me wrong, but it’s definitely not some crazy intense strategy game, that all died with Metabattle, when 90% of the game wasn’t running copy and paste builds…
Everything in pve that’s suppose to be challenging is literally spam as much dps as you can and res everytime someone goes down, and from playing pvp it’s almost the same thing expect you’re using invulns to res, timing bursts, watching animations.. etc.. this game is easy..
I don’t think anyone should be rewarded.
The winning team comp =
2-3 Celes, decap, condi/burst/cele
This game isn’t esports it’s fashionwars…
That’s why the rewards are all cosmetic, and the tournaments are worth 10,000$ compared to LoL tournies which are what 1mil+?
The strategy involved in this game is very basic, and if you think you’ve accomplished something by spamming games which I did the same you’re not.
This game is fun don’t get me wrong, but it’s definitely not some crazy intense strategy game, that all died with Metabattle, when 90% of the game wasn’t running copy and paste builds…
I had a blast and I learned a lot about pvp… I got 3 titles the previous offseasn and only 2 and half this round
Yeah it’d be nice to show for it, but I think I’ll just go h.a.m starting tomorrow
I feel like such an idiot
is there any reward for this season? I assume not… and getting to the top 25 was just a pointless farm on my part… :/
So I’ve been playing this game for a long time now, and I play a lot of SPvP.
The 4v5’s…. they still occur? Why is this, and why does it have to affect my record if I’m stuck in a 4v5????
I think it’d be a wonderful idea if you made it so ranked matches didn’t count in the daily class wins. Seems like when dailies reset the solo que is god awful for almost 2-3 hours. None of the players seem to spam unranked for the win they just go into ranked and I get into 500 – 100 point games.
I’ve never seen more off point fighting, people running into 3v1’s and, and lack of killing enemy team mates than I have in the last game I just played.
I notice this every day that I log on.
The leaderboards aren’t the end all beat all but unless you are on a troll acct, just by accident you should have made it out of the percentages at least once, so if you are a very experienced pvper then you are a very experienced bad pvper.
Even I made it out of the percentages at some point and I’m an awful necro.
I’ve been out of the percentages multiple times.
My record starting turning around when I quit maining guardian and started experimenting with other classes. I think I play best on either guardian or warrior, but it depends. Some nights Thief/Mes are my go to. (there are no cheese classes so kitten right here) I have a champion title on all 4 of these characters, so I feel I’ve played them enough for a general understanding.
I also noticed back when Solo Q was a lot more challenging, you simply didn’t know what you were going to run into working up the percentages was a lot harder. I know I can play any of these builds on any of these forums, but where would the challenge be?
Solo Q used to have so much more to it, and if these new players could have seen those days of SPvP they might understand why I’m a little unhappy with the current SPvP.
Anyway, as a response to the thread, best not to call those builds gimmicky. See, it was simply survival of the fittest. The best, well thought out build beat the other builds or players. A good player with a bad build perhaps was as good as a bad player with a good build. In which case, once that good player took up the good build, it became an upward trend from there. The bad build, however, will simply bring any player down with it. These are builds which have evolved since the beginning of the game and come from those smart enough to realize the synergy of the traits. However, just as the home computer has become industrialized and is no longer a DIY project, these builds have become a “meta” for all players to use. Instead of touching these in any way, the best thing for the game is throwing more traits and weapons and mechanics in, thus adding to the possibilities people have to create new metas or builds.
So, overall, I agree with the direction you think the game should go in, but we should still respect the “cheese” builds as playing smarter if not better[skill-wise].
NO WAY HAVE I FOUND A RATIONAL PERSON ON THESE GOD kitten FORUMS!!!
Thank you for hearing me out! Yes, I’d be happy to keep these gimmick builds, but there needs to be more versatility, even for those using www.metabattle.com they’d only have the choice of two builds (as of right now, imagine seeing 10 builds on that list) I know any bad player that’d look at the thief builds that MetaBattle has on their site would incorrectly play it, only getting one shotted each match, it’d either be too difficult or they’d figure it out after awhile, but imagine if builds were set in place with different objectives that could maybe match new tasks added to the maps…etc making a niche for ‘bad’ players.
I feel as if reaction time is a large part of this game, and of course some people aren’t going to be on par with others, so why count them off in a game? I’ve been in plenty where I’ve been negated completely by another build, and it’s not something you want to keep playing if you don’t expect any pleasant result.
It’s spvp, and I feel over the past few years it’s grown. (it may be diminishing now)
Not every single player is a champion, and we all know people freak out when someone isn’t playing on par, so why expect someone to play on the standards as someone else when there could be an easier objective for that person to do, and still be beneficial towards the team
(I apologize that’s a little off topic this conversation just became so intriguing.)
You throw in 5-6 more builds per each class that are easily just as accepted as the gimmick builds with different play style and it’d alter the demographic positively ( I feel more people would be innovative given a larger pallet INCLUDING BAD PLAYERS); however, coming up with all of these new play styles, etc… would take time, but if they slightly enhanced some of the runes and amulets this problem would go away over night. Given people were informed of these new additions of course.
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For everyone who is having trouble with this game in PvP here is your answer:
www.metabattle.com
You pick a build off of that, and the matches become so much easier.
SPvP took a blow after the April Patch, and it has been in steady decline since. I believe after all of these useless updates the only way A-net could fix the SPvP in this game would be by adding new weapons for each class(ie: Guardian with daggers hee-hee), new classes, new trait lines, etc, or just nerf all of the gimmick builds, so people have to start thinking again, or even just go back two patches! Keep all of the reward tracks and additions like that but just take the skill balance back a couple patches!
Solo Q is littered with trashy gimmick builds making SPvP almost as challenging as PvE. In my last match I could identify 5 people running builds off of www.metabattle.com. This is rediculous, and I know it won’t change.
(don’t talk to me about trying team pvp, it’s almost the same story just with more decap engis)
So you really think that playing meta builds would be enough to be good? LOL There are people out there who don’t usually play meta specs (Like xerrex) being way BETTER than randoms playing meta specs…just saying…if you don’t know how to rotate, how to play against different classes and specs or to dodge (At least) you’re gonna be a freekill even if you run the best meta builds around…that, btw, are not there…(Hambow with strenght runes and sure footed…yeah…and variants with celestial or zerker ROFL)…my ranger’s spec isn’t even there and it’s the most kittened thing you can play on ranger atm (Not dps crap ofc)…while they put power (again…POWER) ranger in that while it had never been meta and never will be outside killing randoms in hotjoin, that site is a joke…and ppl believing that are even worse
And…if you talk about “more decap engis” you clearly know nothing about tpvp…well…this isn’t a surprise after reading the first part of your post..
I’m sorry man I saw all the typos and l33t speak and I didn’t pay attention to what you were trying to tell me. Could you try that again in English?
tried to search you on both eu and na ladders…no result.
so no…i’m not even gonna try to explain that again, you won’t understand anyway.
I’m surprised this guy still doesn’t understand the leader boards.
You can be 10-0 and be the #1 on those charts.
You might want to take a look?
I have been running a shatter build ever since I created my mesmer 2 years ago. Now it’s a gimmick build because it’s on that site?
So today you’re going to learn about ethos.
I have a site with your shatter build on it. A website that I’m beginning to believe already has a large following.
(I’m not saying metabattle made the build, but I’m saying this guy isn’t anywhere near as credible as the website even)
I also have a comment from you, and I don’t know who you are, but apparently you’ve been playing shatter Mesmer for two years, which is just depressing in itself.
So my response is: Why the kitten would I trust a random guy, and why would you even try to take credit for playing one of the most OP (OVER-PLAYED) builds in the game?
And who are you? The High Lord of pvp? Your ego put a crack in my monitor. Guy said he runs a shatter build, probably similar to the one on the site, because, gasp, there are really only slight variations in shatter builds. He never claimed to have created it, he was just wondering why it is suddenly a gimmick build now that it’s on metabattle. What’s even more baffling about your post is this idea that somehow these meta builds were somehow a big secret before landing on that website. That’s an almost impressive amount of naivete.
You’re dumb. And should go away.
Well yeah I’d assume the build that he’s running was the same as the build on the site, because he said that didn’t he?
So now that one enigma has been solved we’re on to the next!
No these builds were around but now they are everywhere. That’s why I’m upset.
“You’re dumb. And should go away.”
Do you not understand that ‘and’ is a conjunction and you’re using sentence fragments to call me dumb? I love this.
You’re dumb. And should go away.
-Sincerely, my large ego.
Oh look another person kittening about builds and metakitten.com yay!
Everyone should just stop using the effective builds that have been found after playing this game for 2 years. We need soldiers signet necros, cleric d/d thieves, settlers s/f eles, assasins altruistic healing gaurds, etc.
^ I’m sure you’re only responding to this because metakitten supplies all of the builds that you use, and you don’t want to be a ‘bad’ player do you?
That’s right boy.
Now play fetch!!
just nerf all of the gimmick builds, so people have to start thinking again, or even just go back two patches!
im agree with you about nerf all of the “gimmick builds” but..
go back to 2 patches ago???
2 patches ago:
-hambow war
-spirit ranger
-decap engie
-s/p thiefSeriously?
that was God Gimmick Build meta, you want to heal the patient killing it!
I don’t recall having any problem with people running those builds two patches ago.
So they should balance, change, and adjust based on what you are not "having any problem with people running "…………..Seems to me that would be a terrible idea.
If you’d read the first paragraph again I asked for more variety or at the very least to go back two balances ago.
I myself don’t have trouble killing gimmick builds, but I do get bored. I get really bored, and when 5-6 people are running these kittenty meta builds spamming the same chain over and over again, spamming Solo Q, and wearing champ titles proclaiming they’re the best in the game.. well lets just say it’s irritating.
What I’m trying to get at is that I don’t think ‘metas’ going to disappear, but more viable options for each class would make the game so much more interesting..
Could you image a Guardian running around with d/p? Come on!! (hee-hee)
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For everyone who is having trouble with this game in PvP here is your answer:
www.metabattle.com
You pick a build off of that, and the matches become so much easier.
SPvP took a blow after the April Patch, and it has been in steady decline since. I believe after all of these useless updates the only way A-net could fix the SPvP in this game would be by adding new weapons for each class(ie: Guardian with daggers hee-hee), new classes, new trait lines, etc, or just nerf all of the gimmick builds, so people have to start thinking again, or even just go back two patches! Keep all of the reward tracks and additions like that but just take the skill balance back a couple patches!
Solo Q is littered with trashy gimmick builds making SPvP almost as challenging as PvE. In my last match I could identify 5 people running builds off of www.metabattle.com. This is rediculous, and I know it won’t change.
(don’t talk to me about trying team pvp, it’s almost the same story just with more decap engis)
So you really think that playing meta builds would be enough to be good? LOL There are people out there who don’t usually play meta specs (Like xerrex) being way BETTER than randoms playing meta specs…just saying…if you don’t know how to rotate, how to play against different classes and specs or to dodge (At least) you’re gonna be a freekill even if you run the best meta builds around…that, btw, are not there…(Hambow with strenght runes and sure footed…yeah…and variants with celestial or zerker ROFL)…my ranger’s spec isn’t even there and it’s the most kittened thing you can play on ranger atm (Not dps crap ofc)…while they put power (again…POWER) ranger in that while it had never been meta and never will be outside killing randoms in hotjoin, that site is a joke…and ppl believing that are even worse
And…if you talk about “more decap engis” you clearly know nothing about tpvp…well…this isn’t a surprise after reading the first part of your post..
I’m sorry man I saw all the typos and l33t speak and I didn’t pay attention to what you were trying to tell me. Could you try that again in English?
I have been running a shatter build ever since I created my mesmer 2 years ago. Now it’s a gimmick build because it’s on that site?
So today you’re going to learn about ethos.
I have a site with your shatter build on it. A website that I’m beginning to believe already has a large following.
(I’m not saying metabattle made the build, but I’m saying this guy isn’t anywhere near as credible as the website even)
I also have a comment from you, and I don’t know who you are, but apparently you’ve been playing shatter Mesmer for two years, which is just depressing in itself.
So my response is: Why the kitten would I trust a random guy, and why would you even try to take credit for playing one of the most OP (OVER-PLAYED) builds in the game?
For everyone who is having trouble with this game in PvP here is your answer:
www.metabattle.com
You pick a build off of that, and the matches become so much easier.
SPvP took a blow after the April Patch, and it has been in steady decline since. I believe after all of these useless updates the only way A-net could fix the SPvP in this game would be by adding new weapons for each class(ie: Guardian with daggers hee-hee), new classes, new trait lines, etc, or just nerf all of the gimmick builds, so people have to start thinking again, or even just go back two patches! Keep all of the reward tracks and additions like that but just take the skill balance back a couple patches!
Solo Q is littered with trashy gimmick builds making SPvP almost as challenging as PvE. In my last match I could identify 5 people running builds off of www.metabattle.com. This is rediculous, and I know it won’t change.
(don’t talk to me about trying team pvp, it’s almost the same story just with more decap engis)
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forum warrior galore
ahhh so that how it is done….
Kidding. Sadly you just contributed to growing number of exploiters. Next please post how to build trebs on Citadel roof.
shouts out to CBO dooeeee
Unfortunately all you did by posting this here was to make everyone aware of the glitch. You should have used the bug report function. Have fun dealing with the abusers…
“I AM WHO I AM, DEAL WITH IT”
ahahahahahaha I won’t be able to take anything you say seriously, sorry.
Leave it to the kittenings above to believe that this is some sort of exploit. Sure I was under a WP, but I could hardly move, I couldn’t hit anything, and everything looked blank. I’m not sure how this situation sounds appealing to ANY of you, and I’m sure some of you are sore about your useless ‘exploit’ being found, but I’m sick of teleporting into a wall every time that I shadow step, and because A-net doesn’t seem to get any of my reports I decided to post it on a forum.
-Much love, Savier
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I shadow stepped into a wall in WvW.
Ended up underneath the enemies way point.
And why would you not want Tengu as a race or another continent to explore? Why is this so appalling to people?
Will a Cantha expansion be coming out anytime soon?
He did however talk at the end of the match, I know I can’t force someone to play, but it’s hard to stay motivated towards gaining PvP titles when SPvP is plagued with trolls.
I hate sounding like a cry baby, this just seems to happen to me every other match.
Lately I’ve joined Tpvp and people score points then AFK the rest of the game, I was wondering if you could fix this?
Sorta getting bored of 4v5s
I hope this inspires all of the other ‘pro’ HoD players to leave. IoJ can take the trash, they’ll need it for the their extremely important 40v1 fights.
[KoR] might be the worst guild on IoJ.
They seem to just call in numbers when they’re getting stomped an under level guardian. I didn’t think I could do that much damage to a level 80 on a level50. The guy had to call his friend in to help kill me.
How sad.
KoR is largely a PvE guild. Many dont WvW but they are of the larger guilds on IoJ so their help is always appreciated. No need to dis a group of ppl that may be learning WvW.
maybe they should stay in queensdale?
[KoR] might be the worst guild on IoJ.
They seem to just call in numbers when they’re getting stomped an under level guardian. I didn’t think I could do that much damage to a level 80 on a level50. The guy had to call his friend in to help kill me.
How sad.
for some reason each time I go to a different house, it just says “Load World 1” or something along those lines.
I’ve beat the toad, it’s not giving me the option to get into world 2.
awesome fights on sf bl!! was fun to follow u guys zerg and annoy u guys off xD we had a lot of fun here the video of 6vs15-18 hope u enjoy it!
hahaha I can’t believe I messed up on /wave
fun stuff today
I imagine all of the DH that were constantly /laugh /dance whenever they took our garrison here in HoD, are now rage quitting.
Did PAXA actually leave HoD? Or is this guy trolling?
We didn’t leave hod, we left the game. Maybe be back 1 day. Keep the zerg alive.
Miss you guys.
Love, Savier
This is how we treat our commanders here on HoD.
No Mercy.
I wouldn’t say “we” … most HoD people are generally polite and nice to one another. I think you are the exception… not the rule.
You sound like a very emotional person.
I’m sorry, I don’t mean to sound like a jerk but,
With all of these advancements in siege in WvW, I’ve noticed more and more people are just hiding in their towers and railing people with siege, I’m just confused right now because I thought we were suppose to use our skill sets in WvW? Proph skill sets that is seem sorta pointless when you guys add +Xdmg amount to all of these siege wepons, and all of a sudden people aren’t walking around the map, they’re huddled close to their five or six friends spamming arrow cart attacks or what have you.
Could you guys bring the competition back? (I do SPVP, so keep that in mind when you’re replying to this) The ability to join WvW and find a decent fight, is slowly declining with all your advancements in siege.
The whole concept is becoming, “Rail on this door, place siege here and wait 10 mins till you get your exp” where is the excitement in this? Zerg Vs. Zerg is entertaining if you like watching paint dry, Arena Net, do you think you’ll make WvW more compatible for small man groups?
I think it’d be cool to have a bunch of towers, that you can cap, you just take away the siege, and the doors. Make people learn how to play their class for once, and don’t make them strive to go towards “GW2 Easy Mode”
