Guild Wars 2

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killimandros.5087:

These guys seriously believe theyre the king-pins of pvp hehehe.

If there were only some sort of empirical measure, a scoring system or something like that.
Then we could see how things stand. Perhaps a ranking of servers to see where people are relative to each other.
Then using these facts rather than hyperbole we could come to some conclusions. I know, there was a site that Syndic used in his post,

http://mos.millenium.org/matchups/

Not to be an kitten but in the heat of moment, I personally know about quite a few guilds better organized and player by player than both CiR and unnamed. Not counting in the vast majority of players guilds in gw, that I dont know about. Youve always relied on the zerg, which is, as I mentioned an acceptable tactic. It doesnt make you any special though. All guilds can transfer up the ladders. Theres no restriction to that. Theres no test one have to pass. And what is quite amuzing me, is that you come here to the gunnar holds server to claim acknowledge of your abilities, which makes me believe you are probably not much else than cannon-fodder to saccy and chaos, amirite?

These guys seriously believe theyre the king-pins of pvp hehehe.

Sorry to hear about that Vanz :-/ I admit, the fights against some of your organized guilds have been the most enjoyable so far experienced in wvw, but then again, we were prepared for it. Having tried to organize guild groups at FS when they were ranked 2nd, I know the only way really to get as many in as soon as possible, is to start queueing at weird times, or, stay at the portal spamming it. Still some days left and im gonna try to get as much out of it as possible before we go down the ladder and you guys move up. There is, actually one solution, which it amazes me Anet havent made yet; Only allow transfers to low/mid populated servers, or down the server ladders. Would easily solve so many problems.

Nemo.6295:

I honestly don’t know what went on back then in GH but having fought them two weeks in a row, they don’t fit the description you gave, in fact it’s quite the opposite. Plus considering your post is a long whine about how you carried everyone but GH was bad and that drove you to move away, and laughably to one of the top ranked servers, I’m more inclined to believe you are full of crap, but you don’t really have to care about that, what you need to start doing is to develop some kitten manners and stop saying crap about GH cause for a server with such a disatvantage they do quite well.

If you want I can direct you to almost identical “blame the others, because we must be the bestest” post from their WARhammer campaign, where they eventually left, after being hammered. Interesting enough, their main tactic there, was “lets create the bigger zerg”. Acceptable tactic of course, when coordination doesnt allow other options. Hopefully Saccy has given you some advice. On a sidenote, oh how much I would have loved to pit against RG as well :-D would have been awesome hehe.

Funny thing is, we were at FS when they were at the peak. Long queues and meaningless zerg vs zerg fights ruined most of the competitive fun. So, we moved down ladders to get it. We also saw most easymoders move up, so they could reap the fruits of being at a high ranked servers, because there are no rewards for being at lower ladders, and afaik theres no test anyone have to pass to move to the highest ranked servers, is there? So where that bull about only the best moving up ladders come from, beats me.

Its also commonly referred to as easymoding. But then again, after experiencing how CiR response to the competition arriving at KN (eg. not being on a winning server anymore) long time ago, that didnt really surprise those knowing that part of history.

Edit; If this is considered trolling, I appoligize. But I believe understanding the mentality of people also helps understanding their actions. Nothing bad about what you do, really. Its only pixels after all :-) But, I believe it might be more fruitful to just stop posting more into the matter.

Sorry, but you dont know what easymoders are. Coming from WAR, the definition of easymoders, are players following successful wvw froups to swoop up free xp/loot whatever from the objectives said guilds capped. In gw2, easymoders are divided into 2. Players moving to successful realms to swoop up free xp/loot, or guilds moving over to higher ranked servers because they cant handle losing. The latter, is unique to gw2, and in WAR, these guilds would either fall apart, or just quit playing. In gw2, they have been given the opportunity to form bigger zergs, and when easymoders rejoice, the biggest zerg wins (and then the server with the smaller zerg gets left behind by easymoding guilds).
Funny thing is, you nailed down in the last part, the meaning with playing this game for any non easymoding-guild, you actually fight. Competitive guilds, make servers high ranked. The better servers have their competitive guilds from day one (Vizunah comes to my mind). But, I understand why someone from BT, from my definition, the very definition of an easymoding realm, need to justify its own realms success. (just wanted to add that im kinda confused why a guild like RG need to go the easymoders way, but then again who knows how Saccy thinks. CiR going that direction wasnt a real surprise, remembering how they reacted to a similar situation in WAR)The casual people will never stay at the bottom. The idea is laughable. Casual players will of course move as far up as they can come. How can they get their crafting bonuses from wvw if they are at the bottom?
And what do the strongest realms do? Initially the invite better guilds over to their realm. But in the end, the same realms will have queues making it hard for the organized guilds to even enter at the same time. Thats why the biggest realsm eventually cooks down to zerg vs zerg.
Easy moding is about preaching morale etc. So much crap in one text….your mom must be proud, cause you dont have a digestive problem at least. Funny thing is, the whole point you try to make, is so contradictive anyone with half a brain manage to see how fail your point is.
Fact: Tons of guilds move to the top servers. Is that because they are competitive? If the answer isnt clear to you, theres not much more I can add tbh….

Playing, or trying to play a longbow build, the only use I see for my pet, is as a distraction. I run in a very organized guildteam doing wvw, and most of the time, pet s on passive, to avoid it training me. Id gladly let go of the pet. Maybe make that an option for the ones whos silly enough to go marksman. For those playing more melee oriented, i can see the benefits clearer, but thats not me. I have a gurdian when I wanna melee.

easymoders will be easymoders in any game :-) . After taking a fair share of server queues making guildgroups very hard to do at FS, im satisfied finding a bracket with decent opponents. Tier ratings matter nothing to me. Finding a map where my server has no camps, means more fights.

been like this for me for the last month. Fortunately a bit less often now than before. Ill see how long I can be bothered. (w7 64bit, i7processor,GeForce 670 gtx, 12gb ddr3 mem)

Having same issue. Can log in with one of two toons. Connection error report suggests its my network connection. Why can I log in with ONE of them, then and not the other one puzzles me. Anyway, phoned the 24/7 support site of my inet provided, they ran some tests, and did not find any problems at all. It is NOT on your side, or ours was the answer. WHat now.

inb4cleenexing, on a serious note, merging isnt a bad idea. And those following these forums, know there are about 2 pages of deleted threads about 2 issues, and 2 more pages whos been merged into that 1000 post long fps thread.

Whatever reason the game is freezing/bsod/blackout and in again, it would be more constructive to take a look at WHEN this started to happen; So far, it seems like something happened around the second week of september. There were some update/patches around that time. AT the same time Win7 (at least) released an update as well. It is hard to say exactly what happened, but there you go Anet, try take it from there, instead of checking every user experiencing this problems hardware.

If these boards represent close to the numbers of subscribers, seeing the first 4 pages on the tech problem consists of players having the same 2 problems (fps or bsod), I would be inclined to believe the percentage of users, is indeed a lot, higher. Actually, of the around 700 different posters inside these forums, only a handful seem to NOT be having any issues (whoch could of course be countered with “they play”, which is fair enough). Now, consider most gamers never even visit forums, and these forums are neither the easiest accessible either (I had to use guru for 3 months), I believe the representaged players with problems, indicate a HIGH percentage of the playerbase, to be experiencing problems. Then it is up to Anet to figure out what to do. Maybe theyve just ruled most of the ones not being able to log in, as people who have dropped out of the game? Possible. Maybe they rule out those having bsod-problems as lacking hardware, thus saving money by actually TRYING to solve the issue? Seems more and more likely. In the end, whatever "solution# Anet has decided to act up towards, it is very unlikely it is one in favour of the playerbase with the issues. I expect the tech forum page to go down for a week or two (easiest and cheapest way to handle “unsatisfied customers”), then the server-merges will start. After all, theyve received quite a lot of funds from the game, with small prospects of more, so its maintenance mode next.

And, actually. Talking about bad launch/after launch. Did anyone refer to The Secret Worlds launch? Best launch ever. NO problems, whatsoever.

I know, and to be honest, some of your suggestions are really good :-)

More specific it seems the 660 and the 560 card is having issues. My 9800 gtx card manages it quite well (i prefer horrible graphics to crashes :-)

And how are your comments about how annoyed you are towards those posting about their issues going to solve any hardware or software problems? I like you better when you try to give answers thank you

just updated win7. No improvements

Try the new Windows update as well. Some users suggests it might be a OS error.

Those selected “few” who have problems, are in their absolute right to post about any technical issue they might have, within this subforum, dont you agree? Be happy you dont experience these problems. You initially (some days ago) made some useful suggestions on how to solve these issues, some of which were quite good and well thought through, but as time goes and more and more users are having problems (4 pages, not mentioning most posts have been removed or merged)
Imagine the frustration any average gamer (and the average gamer DOESNT have much knowledge about hardware and software) with a gaming rig that is advertized as being well above the needed requirements to handle the game have, when experiencing not being able to play the game. You cant expect the average Joe to idle with BIOS setup, cpu meddling and whatnot (and I dont know the terms because I am a noob too). According to anyone entering this subforum at the moment, it seems like the game is running poor, as thats what all threads, bare 1 or 2 are about, cant we agree about that? Then, most users never even visit the boards, ever. How many of these experience issues? If the forums represent the average gamers, quite a few.

edit due to raging issues (sorry)

Belryn, dont you find it the slightest worrying that the first 4 pages of the tech forum is filled with users reporting more or less the same error? As far as I can tell, the percentage of those asking for help, who has solved their issue, is far less than the ones who are struggling and those new ones signing in saying theyre struggling. I actually tried to use the info you gave earlier, but it didnt help me. I am fairly certain most users reporting issues making the game unplayable, HAVE tried several of the various home cooked fixes being suggested by self acclaimed geniuses, to no help. Believe me, the frustration by this issue, making people like me, unable to play for several days, every day spending hours trying to find the error, is NOT calmed by fingerpointers. I CAN take waiting, waiting, and waiting. But, I can NOT take being ridiculed as well.

My wife is happy, as Ive started going to the gym again since headstart. Life slowly falls back to normal, even considering taking a look at the panda bears.

Nice to get it sorted out anyway.

Edit; some seem to get this problem fixed by upgrading BIOS…what about that?

Since I am no expert, I got this quote from another site today. Sounds plausible?

edit; And I have similar problem, my PC is 4 days old. WHen I told the salesman about this “fix”, he couldnt stop laughing (of course it might be Karpalo’s problem, but it isnt mine)

“It’s a Windows update that was issues several days back to address a ordering issue with Piledriver. nVidia is attempting to mop up the mess with another driver fix. Blame this solely on Microsoft folks. Nothing to see here other than yet another failure of Microsoft to implement new technology into existing OS structure.

There is a reason this doesn’t affect Windows 8…. Windows 8 is actually modern enough and was natively coded to support HGC. "

changed text. No need to be Itchy

Its so reassuring to have the ever-knowing eye around who merely by his precence alone has the knowledge of the divine (sarcasm off, sorry but I couldnt help myself). 90% of all statistics are made up btw. Now, it MIGHT be overheating motherboard, cpu, gpu or the power regulation. OR it might possibly be Win7 related (use google and you will see what I mean). See? If the problem is on the users side, theres most likely as many fixes as there are users. If its not on the users side, theres sadly not much you can do. But seeing many blame BOTH Win/ (update not long ago, make sure you have it installed), BIOS conf. AND Anet itself, its hard to answer. Ive been testing for 4 days straight now, and its NOT heat related.

Line. I believe if you dont know what the cores are, you shouldnt start twisting and tweaking much without assistance. The cores are basically like the cylinders of your cars engine. I am also a pc noob so it is with no sarcasm. I feel your frustration hehe.

Googled it, found some hundred different crash-scenarios, some hundred different fixes. If there is one “THE fix”, please enlighten me. Apart from the update driver of course.

edit; need fix for the 660ti card

At the same time my ICore i7 processor 3770, GeForce 660ti, 12gb RAM pc can NOT run it. Ye, what a glorious day

Im gonna paste a reply to that from another forum;

“In a normal PC, even a weak GPU MASSIVELY outperforms a strong CPU in GPU-stuff. If ArenaNet for some reason decided to use the CPU for rendering (essentially not using hardware acceleration), this game would already be lost.

the CPU is not used for rendering. If this game actually was running in softwaremode, it would be unplayable.

Just to make this point clear:
Transfering rendering work from a relatively weak GPU to a relatively strong CPU would NOT increase performance. Quite the opposite actually. I’m pretty sure Arenanet knows this.

Alright, so why does the game use so much CPU power, if the CPU is essentially used for the exact same stuff that other games use it for? Just because it’s called mmorpg doesn’t mean that it now magically needs twice as much CPU power
We have various game engines who are able to display hundreds of animated actors, flawlessly, on a dual core

People think this game is “CPU bound”, because Arenanet is using the CPU in a bad way.
in reality, the CPU is doing the exact same stuff that a CPU has to do in other games. Except that they’re doing it wrong. Maybe they’re doing collision checks across large areas. Maybe their pathfinding sucks. Who knows

MMOs often have higher CPU requirements, because they’re subject to ongoing change – Code needs to be edited throughout development after it’s release, so it needs to be kept somewhat readable and understandable. Optimized code can be quite difficult to read and change. But even under those circumstances, GW2’s current state is laughably bad."

However, I dont believe there will be a quick fix to this issue. I think its too late for that now, and hence unfortunately I dont see any near future patch wich will solve the problems for the specific cards whos been hit the worst (6xx series)

In before lols 630 cardherpderp stuff.

Its your graphic card. Anets software doesnt work with the 6 series.

ZaxanRazor.6235:

If it was the game everyone with your card and CPU would have the same issue. Considering that there aren’t tens of thousands of posts saying so, it must be something else.

I just want to add that this seems to be your standard reply to anything suggesting/pointing at problems within the Anet software itself. I have now scrolled through these forums, and imagine this for a second; How many of those 2 millions will ever enter the forums? How many with similar cards HAVE actually posted on the forums? Look man, take a look at the 2 first pages on tech support, how many of these topics are related to software issues, game not running as it should/used to? THAT should give a clear indication SOMETHINGS wrong man. Whats typical is this; The 6 series of Nvidia, doesnt work with Anets software. No matter how much you twink and tweedle, theres a problem exactly there. Theres ALSO a problem with some of the other cards. Might/might not be related. But, there IS a problem, and I have never in my 14 years of MMOgaming NOT found a clear link between the tec forums being flooded with problem reports, to there being a problem somewhere within the software. I just wish the Anet reps would stick their heads out and suggest they know about this issue, that theyre working on it, so we dont have to sweap through all these meaningless and futile discussions between the normal average gamers and the ones who think unless you have a 4000 dollar pc, you CANT play an MMO, because this is NOT going the way Anet would like it to go, when they advertize the game to the normal gamer.

-yes. No errors
-I reinstalled win7. Only thing on the computer is gw2. Clean image, last drivers.
-Check.

…ye, I mean, how dare they even PLAY this game…duh

At first game freezes. It doesnt matter where I am, or what I do (in game of course). It drops quick out to my desktop, and recovers again (its not the power, neither overheating). This will continue for some time, until it freees completely, and I have to tab out and close it from task manager.

Dont discuss with him. Fanbois will be fanbois. Await an answer from Anet. I bet he can even play at max on his Pentium 4, ’cause hes pro. They have issues with the new series cards. They have to deal with it.

All software possible hickups were already checked beforehand. There were no need to do these tests anymore on the pc as it was originally. Same tests were done with the new graphic cards. They suggested I leave the Nvidia 6 series, and go up or down a number. Maybe to sell me some stuff, but I doubt it as Ive known them and shopped from them for 12 years now. They built the pc I had up to now, which has been great.

We spent 2 hours on testing different graphic cards. We tried changing ram. I have tried all the fixes, recomended by Anet and various users for 2 days now. Only thing left is buying a new cpu, or upgrading to windows 8. Whats even better, the guys at Nvidia blames Anet.

ZaxanRazor.6235:

That is good enough but it’s not top end because of the GPU.

If you’re getting crashes that’s a system problem rather than the game, otherwise no one with that card would be able to play without crashes.

Im confused here. Another user said these speccs were totally good enough to run the game. I have now taken the pc to 2 experts. They build computers professionally. We tested some of the most expensive cards they have. Crash. Is there some sort of codex (gamers) I need to buy, to play? Cant you just agree that I SHOULD be able to play this thing?

Can anyone enlighetn me then. What is the so called top end system? Is my system not good enough? (repeat, repeat; w7 64 bit, i7 3770, GeForce 660ts, 12 gb ram) because I crash constantly, and quite frankly i am annoyed about the hints that its not good enough. For christs sake, who were the targets of this game, if THAT isnt good enough?

btw, I got an ssd. Didnt help.

o/ hey there. I bought the 630, so I guess you are hinting at me. I tell you one thing. I swapped my 630 for a 660 ts. Wanna know something funny? Nothing changed. Ive been now 2 hours with some of the owners of the best pc selling site in orway, komplett.no. Theyre supposed, to be quite good, and have ok knoiwledge about computers. They had a look at both my cards. My pc. They tried 4 different graphic cards, cards which would cost me my car if I were to buy it. Wanna know the funny side? Game crashes. Wanna know something else? My 630 should run the game WITHOUT the crashing issues.
Youre not doing Anet any good by tossing mud at the ones reporting BAD CODING from Anet. Youre just pissing me off, because youre probably NOT having any problem. God knows why, maybe your rig is like my old rig, from 2007. THAT one works like a charm. Instead of behaving like a brat, either shut it, or find a solution.
Its not about “not performing”. Its about game crashing every 20 seconds. Be it on lowest setting.

I agree with the Kepler user thing, to a certain degree. There are AMD users with the exact same issues. There are also users with 4 and 5 series, evem some with 2 series reporting about it. Might be different problem, but Im not sure.

I play on lowest settings. Game crashes. I exclude everything. I tick NO on shadows, textures. If I tick more NO’s now, KevinEvo will be back.

This is my rig; Win7, 64-bit
i7 processor 3770
NVIDIA GeForce 660ts
12gb DDR3 mem
2tb hd

Tell me. WHY should I not be able to run games on full settings? WHY should I not be able to play THIS game on full settings?I even grabbed 2 external hd’s just now.

I really REALLY hate it when nosayers just pass by because they wanna say no.
About that 9800 card, I bought it in 2007. Its not 9 years old. Its almost 6. I appologize. Now, please close the door when you leave.

Yes. No help. I actually reinstalled win7, and the ONLY program I have now, is gw2. Still, freeze and crash.

I have the exact same problem. I installed (clean) the nevest nvidia drivers. No help. I tried cleaninstalling the beta drivers. Same story.

where would I find said launcher option?

Well, I have a Core i7 3770 processor, with 12gig ram…cant really see that being a bottleneck…but I might be wrong ofc

I had to go back from my 660 card to my old pc with a 9800 gt card. It works. Min req. and laggy, but it doesnt crash. Even using Vista hehe