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That processor is used in netbooks and low end laptops. At 1.6GHz it’s not sufficient to play Guild Wars 2. You might be able to squeak by at the lowest resolution and lowest settings but I wouldn’t bet money on it.
I’m not really sure what the problem with this engine is .
Desktop
Amd Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition 3.2GHz
4GB DDR3
NVidia Geforce GTX 260 216OC
Resolutions
1280×720 Windowed
1600×900 Fullscreen
During the first BWEs I was getting 20-40 FPS in most places and 10-19 FPS in big zergs.
During the last couple BWEs after optimization took place this system was totally unplayable. 10-19 FPS all the time no matter what resolution or settings.
Laptop
I7 2670QM 2.2GHz (4 Core 2.7 Turbo Boost, 3.1 2 Core Turbo Boost, 3.2 1 Core Turbo Boost)
12 GB DDR3
Nvidia Geforce GTX 570M 3GB DDR5
Resolutions
1280×720 Windowed
1600×900 Windowed
1920×1080 Fullscreen
All resolutions net the same FPS pretty much. 40-100 FPS PVE, 20-100 FPS WvWvW. Max FPS when no one is around and 20 FPS when people are near in WvWvW.
No need to post in here then is there? You’ve solved computing.
Please keep your useless off topic opinions to yourself.
I am asking for a workaround for a technical problem.
There is no technical problem here. Delta is spot on the money & I agree with him 100%. Doesn’t matter how much tweaking, driver/Windows installs you do. Nothing is going to make a slow laptop faster. By all means, feel free to waste your time trying (I’m sure you will), but it won’t get you anywhere. You’ll realize sooner or later, I’m tipping probably later because you think there is a magic fix for slow laptops.
Would you stop posting already all you do is kitten and whine and tell people their computers suck. None of this is any help to anyone. If raw GHz was the only thing that mattered, CPU architecture would never change. They would just use the same tech and make it smaller and fast. Luckily that’s not how computers work.
Gaming laptops are fine and not a gimmick. Some of the specific models companies package as gaming laptops are gimmicks but some of them are the real deal.
You could never buy what’s in my laptop in a desktop for the same price and it beasts this game in everything except WvWvW and everyone has problems in there. My laptop has a 570M 3GB DDR5 running at 750MHz Core 1500 Shader 1650 Memory. I get 40-100FPS across the board at 1920×1080 best appearance, med shadows, no reflections. Turned reflections off because of a bug in the new NVidia drivers that makes the environment disappear in places.
Just like any other game though Guild Wars 2 has it’s hot spots. I can recall an area with dredge and tons of explosions and fireballs constantly raining down in an area. I lagged pretty hard in that area.
“brand spanking new gaming laptop.”
Gaming laptops are a gimmick. There isn’t a single mobile chip that has the raw GHz this game needs to run smooth everywhere, nor will there be til at least after Skylake.
Likewise, the GTX560m/GTX660m that I see on the majority of these “gaming” laptops is still worse than a desktop GTX260 from 2008. That’s the price you pay for mobility.Luckily not all developers made the switch to target low-end machines.
I hope this isnt another outage that rolls people back.
I hope this isnt another outage that rolls people back.
“Invalid password” disconnect message.
It’s it still the same as a subscription MMO. It is new right now so people are trying to justify the $60 they spent on a game that is still pretty broken. They promised a lot during the betas and failed to deliver on the optimization front. I had to go out and buy a new computer just to play because their “optimizations” made my once playable computer unplayable. We also told them about many problems during the BWEs and they straight up ignored them. Particle effects to big, and to many in PVE zergs. Confirmation dialog on gem purchases just to name a few.
I know no good can possibly come from this, but every time I drop by the forums I can’t help but notice how disrespectful and defensive this community has become. Anyone that has anything critical to say is given the old Thousand Hand Slap by the game’s fans.
In MMOs with subs I chalk it up to people wanting on whatever level to defend the money they spend every month on the game. But here it is as bad as I have ever seen and the game has no sub..so I am at a lost.
Why all the hostility?
Are you 12 years old? You should probably calm down with the nonsense. You are starting to sound like MartinSPT.
What he is saying is mostly correct. A top in laptop is really only about as good as a mid level desktop. If you are expecting 30-60FPS at 1920×1080 on a 555M you might be shooting for the moon. The sad part about the 555m are the many variations among the laptop makers. Some are very very bad and some are ok.
I have an I7-2670M, 12GB DDR3, 570M 3GB DDR5. At 1920×1080 it runs anywhere from 40-100FPS. It just depends on what’s going on. In big PVE zergs with massive particle effects and what not it will drop down to the 20s.
@OP: it’s a laptop, that inherently makes it at least 2-3 generations behind desktops in terms of CPU and GPU power. Most desktop users would call it garbage specwise and not “high end”. No one played Crysis or WoW at launch on a laptop, GW2 is no different.
@Brem: “seriously you think the gt 555m is only as fast as a 9600gt? lol is all I can say to that one.” loollolololololololol. Google shows these scores:
9600GT desktop card: ~4500
GT 555m laptop card: ~4800
GTX 560 desktop card: ~ 9500Sorry to say, 8% better than “very bad”, is still “very bad”.
I5 with a 540 is pretty mid range for a laptop which is about low-mid range for a desktop. So expect that same performance.
We need some extra information though. What resolution and settings are you running at.
My laptop is an I7 with 570M which is mid-high end for a laptop and I get 40-80FPS outside and 20-70FPS in WvWvW at 1920×1080.
I’ll take my laptop over that one anyday.
http://www.msi.com/product/nb/GT780DX-GT780DXR-.html
Got it for $1000 at NewEgg on a back to school sale.
1920×1080 Best Appearance 50-60FPS
Not to mention my laptop is fully modular. Everything in it is upgradeable even the video card.
I had this problem as well. Turning reflections off cleared it up. Doesn’t seem to happen on the non beta drivers though.
Please don’t ask for support on Windows 8 until the operating system is finalized.
Windows 8 was finalized last month and can be downloaded from their website. It’s just not out in retail form yet.
You should calm down. We understand you are trying to help but when you get mad like that and start spouting off nonsense you lose all credibility.
“DDR4/5 is 256-bit”
- My 570M is DDR5 with 192-bit memory bus.
- Video card makers are free to pick and choose memory and bus and this is one of the first things they skimp on to make cards cheaper.
- Via Newegg search 128-bit bus has the largest amount of cards and some of them are even DDR5.
So before you flip on someone get your facts straight.
P.S. Newegg shows over 184 video cards with 64-bit memory bus.
Discounting that there was some flunk here.. There are countless other threads on this board with others users having the same problems. There is even a thread with Anet itself asking for Dxdiags and configs. Countless top of the line system are in that thread. Systems that should have zero issue at nearly all times.
Almost all the FPS issues I’ve read are a user issue. They all appear to be GPU memory bandwidth limited (“My GPU isn’t working flat out” is what gives it away) .
I haven’t seen countless top of the line systems in those threads mostly I’ve seen people with mobile GPU’s or cheap desktop GPU’s with a narrow memory bus width e.g. 64b, 128b etc resulting in low bandwidth capabilities in the order of 80-100 GB/s and wondering why they don’t get the performance of cards with 384b etc with 192 GB/s.
I have no doubt there are some quirks however in the vast majority of cases people have their aspirations ahead of their machine’s capabilities.
Wow, trying to be technical, and you don’t have a clue what you are talking about.
GPU memory bus width? Really? 64bit,128bit? Really again?I haven’t see even a ‘credible’ sub-128bit VRAM bus in about 10 years, and you are talking about people playing this game with a video card with 64bit memory bus?
GDDR5/4 is 256-bit, and the ‘old’ stuff is GDDR3/GDDR-2 which is 128bit and has been ‘common’ since 2003.
Are you maybe talking about the Geforce 7xxx Series, where some of the low end cards used 64bit internal blocks, but still had a 128bit memory bus? That is about as old as I can think that would even remotely have anything to do with what you are talking about.
(And I don’t think many are trying to play the game with a PS3 class GPU.)The grownups are talking, go play outside, or troll another forum, please.
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For those of you having FPS problems. Try deleting your local.dat. Messing with various graphics settings seems to corrupt something and your FPS gets stuck in the gutter. Deleting local.dat to reset everything fixed it for me.
You have to give a little to get a little. Realizing your CPU isn’t the best and this game is CPU heavy. You’ll never be able to push 1920×1080. The CPU still has to feed the video card what to render and full fill all the normal demands the game puts on it. Lower your resolution to something more manageable like 800×600 / 1024×768 maybe even 1280×720.
At 1920×1080 your CPU is the bottleneck its not able to feed the videocard and the game so your FPS suffers. You should notice improvements at lower resolutions.