Guild Wars 2

Smokey.7652:

Ok so I have seen lots of post on reddit and on these forums, of people saying that ANet needs to release some sort of road map or overview of their plans. These people are also asking why ANet is not doing this. Let me provide you with a reminder.

Have you forgotten the backlash from the community that ANet received when it was casually mentioned in a deployment blog during beta that dyes would be account bound and then at launch along with the dye unlocking system being completely changed, dyes were also character bound instead of account bound.

I can understand why ANet is fearful of releasing an official roadmap. If they received such negative abuse from the community over such a small detail that was never officially promised, imagine how they think the community would react if the final version did not match exactly how they laid it out in the road map or had to be delayed for some reason.

ANet was originally very open about their development, but the vocal negative minority of the community crushed that and forced ANet to be more selective with what they release to the public.

Dev Player communication is a two way street of respect, the community dropped the ball early on and now we have to deal with the consequences of that.

LOL, You gotta be kidding me? Arenanet are a company, they deal with praise and criticism no matter what because it’s a company. If you think the company is hiding because the community was anger before it’s the company’s fault for causing that anger. Think about it, any community will get mad if they expected something and it turned out to be wrong, why do you think so much people quit guild wars 2 after they hit 80? the players who quit didnt lose, arenanet did. We are the players still investing our time but we demand communication.

I dont understand why they dont actively talk to us, if i was working for arenanet i would be happy to answer players questions. Its like if they explained they dont have enough money we’d be like alright, make expansion we pay, but they dont even say anything to us. How is this a way to treat their customers. I’d pay right now for an expansion if it ment they’d start talking to us and add things we asked for.

Vayne.8563:

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Vayne.8563:

pigdog.9215:

Vayne.8563:

pigdog.9215:

@ Vayne: Im sorry but if you READ what i said, i did specifically say duel and not “battle to the death”. If you’ve ever played WoW when you duel no one dies, they just get down to 1hp and the duel is over, there is no killing lol. Most of the guild wars 2 community is pretty nice. The chances of 2 people dueling that screws your event over and not helping but laughing at you is so small that its not even worth mentioning. Please if you don’t want dueling give a good reason why, hardly anyone is out to laugh at you because you asked for help.

I’ve been to PvP…I’ve seen some of the community there. Most of the PvE community is nice. I suspect it’ll lower that tone of dueling is introduced.

This mentality is why guild wars 2 PvP will never be a big e-sport like WoW or other MMORPGS. It makes no sense to remove a function from the game because people might be sour and be rude, if anyone is rude just mute them or report. Ive been to OS (dueling capital ) a lot and most people there arent rude, so how about you stop assuming the PvP community is toxic because of your bad experiences.

Not implementing something is completely different than removing it. They didn’t implement it. There are places for people to beat each other senseless. Let there be more place. But I don’t really want to be involved in it or deal with the consequences where I play.

And you know, I could be wrong. Maybe everyone who duels is lovely and wonderful and happy and smiling. But you know, I’d rather not take that chance.

You have to plan for the worse. Other games (cough wildstar) have solved these problems. Implement proper reporting/blocking tools, give players the power to block duel requests entirely, and, if it’s still THAT big an issue, create a cooldown on the amount of duel requests you can submit for a period of time.

Or the GW2 solution, bury your head in the sand and scream “No duels! They will ruin our pristine, non-toxic environment, where you get berated in map chat for not knowing events, booted from dungeons from being the wrong class, and called out in game for playing bad while using legendaries—-yes dueling would ruin this game!”

I like the Guild Wars 2 solution, thanks. lol

Isnt it toxic to ignore other peoples wants and only care about your own? I find it if the PvE and PvP community weren’t so one sided people would be less toxic.

Azure The Heartless.3261:

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Vayne.8563:

pigdog.9215:

Vayne.8563:

pigdog.9215:

@ Vayne: Im sorry but if you READ what i said, i did specifically say duel and not “battle to the death”. If you’ve ever played WoW when you duel no one dies, they just get down to 1hp and the duel is over, there is no killing lol. Most of the guild wars 2 community is pretty nice. The chances of 2 people dueling that screws your event over and not helping but laughing at you is so small that its not even worth mentioning. Please if you don’t want dueling give a good reason why, hardly anyone is out to laugh at you because you asked for help.

I’ve been to PvP…I’ve seen some of the community there. Most of the PvE community is nice. I suspect it’ll lower that tone of dueling is introduced.

This mentality is why guild wars 2 PvP will never be a big e-sport like WoW or other MMORPGS. It makes no sense to remove a function from the game because people might be sour and be rude, if anyone is rude just mute them or report. Ive been to OS (dueling capital ) a lot and most people there arent rude, so how about you stop assuming the PvP community is toxic because of your bad experiences.

Not implementing something is completely different than removing it. They didn’t implement it. There are places for people to beat each other senseless. Let there be more place. But I don’t really want to be involved in it or deal with the consequences where I play.

And you know, I could be wrong. Maybe everyone who duels is lovely and wonderful and happy and smiling. But you know, I’d rather not take that chance.

You have to plan for the worse. Other games (cough wildstar) have solved these problems. Implement proper reporting/blocking tools, give players the power to block duel requests entirely, and, if it’s still THAT big an issue, create a cooldown on the amount of duel requests you can submit for a period of time.

Or the GW2 solution, bury your head in the sand and scream “No duels! They will ruin our pristine, non-toxic environment, where you get berated in map chat for not knowing events, booted from dungeons from being the wrong class, and called out in game for playing bad while using legendaries—-yes dueling would ruin this game!”

More like “If you want to duel, press a button and/or join a room.”

Just because toxic players already exist does not mean it would be okay to add more.

Then why did they add fractals? People are toxic in that because of resistance rating, but it was added for PvErs. Well Duels are wanted for PvPers, it makes no sense to not add wanted features because people are CAPABLE of being toxic.

Brother Grimm.5176:

Serbianwolf.1652:

I was just wondering why is this feature still not implemented after 2 years? Cmon people, its essential thing!

1. It was never intended to BE a feature, so it’s not GOING to be implemented….EVER.
2. It is NOT “essential thing” as the game is in no way suffering because it’s not there (the definition of “essential”).
3. see PvP or WvW for a currently existing solution to “dueling”.
4. …even tho 1v1 dueling is not currently nor ever will something the game is balanced for….and thus is pointless.

1. Wardrobe was never intended to be a feature but it was implemented.

2. Wardrobe was not essential but it was implemented.

3. PvP and WvW are not Duels, Duels are people being able to have a friendly fight around places in the open world.

4. WvW/PvP isnt balanced thus is pointless? No but that is your logic.

Vayne.8563:

pigdog.9215:

Vayne.8563:

pigdog.9215:

@ Vayne: Im sorry but if you READ what i said, i did specifically say duel and not “battle to the death”. If you’ve ever played WoW when you duel no one dies, they just get down to 1hp and the duel is over, there is no killing lol. Most of the guild wars 2 community is pretty nice. The chances of 2 people dueling that screws your event over and not helping but laughing at you is so small that its not even worth mentioning. Please if you don’t want dueling give a good reason why, hardly anyone is out to laugh at you because you asked for help.

I’ve been to PvP…I’ve seen some of the community there. Most of the PvE community is nice. I suspect it’ll lower that tone of dueling is introduced.

This mentality is why guild wars 2 PvP will never be a big e-sport like WoW or other MMORPGS. It makes no sense to remove a function from the game because people might be sour and be rude, if anyone is rude just mute them or report. Ive been to OS (dueling capital ) a lot and most people there arent rude, so how about you stop assuming the PvP community is toxic because of your bad experiences.

Not implementing something is completely different than removing it. They didn’t implement it. There are places for people to beat each other senseless. Let there be more place. But I don’t really want to be involved in it or deal with the consequences where I play.

And you know, I could be wrong. Maybe everyone who duels is lovely and wonderful and happy and smiling. But you know, I’d rather not take that chance.

Well don’t you think that is very selfish? People who want duels are people who want to be able to have friendly duels with friends/guildies/randoms just for fun and would be extremely happy if it was put into the game. How is it fair for people to not want to because of the tiny minority of toxic duelers? Its the same argument of not having dungeons, there are toxic people in dungeons so we should remove dungeons? No because you like dungeons. Well its not fair i like Pvp i like duels just like a lot of others, stop pushing it away because of your selfish wants.

Vayne.8563:

pigdog.9215:

Azure The Heartless.3261:

pigdog.9215:

I hope you understand bragging does increase competitiveness, do you not know that?

If people brag then pwn them and brag back?

Hmmm.

I’m far from advocating peace and love and joy and hugs, but the very least I can do is not shove that into an aspect of the game where teamwork is advocated.

The attitude you implied in your last post is exactly what needs to be kept out of PVE. In PVP it is muted a little because those same people you have an issue with could be on your team in the next SoloQ, and that is exactly how it should stay.

Map Chat is borderline not-toxic right now. Let’s keep it that way, shall we?

You cannot blame duels for toxic people, that logic is so flawed. People can be toxic because of dungeoning, are you going to remove dungeons? If people are toxic in map chat because of duels people will think badly of them and mute. If you view on the community is that low that duels = community unable to control their temper, then blame the community and not the function to duel.

Of course you can’t blame duels for toxic people. But from experience, PvP communties tend to be more toxic than PvE communities, except for hard core raiding , perhaps, which is also competitive.

It’s not that those things cause toxic communities. It’s that those things attract toxic people. The more competitive a community, the higher the percentage of that sort of mindset.

Well then next time just say i don’t want competitive pvp in guild wars 2 because im afriad of the toxic people it will bring into the game. I totally disagree with that point but evenyone is entitled to their opinion.

Vayne.8563:

pigdog.9215:

@ Vayne: Im sorry but if you READ what i said, i did specifically say duel and not “battle to the death”. If you’ve ever played WoW when you duel no one dies, they just get down to 1hp and the duel is over, there is no killing lol. Most of the guild wars 2 community is pretty nice. The chances of 2 people dueling that screws your event over and not helping but laughing at you is so small that its not even worth mentioning. Please if you don’t want dueling give a good reason why, hardly anyone is out to laugh at you because you asked for help.

I’ve been to PvP…I’ve seen some of the community there. Most of the PvE community is nice. I suspect it’ll lower that tone of dueling is introduced.

This mentality is why guild wars 2 PvP will never be a big e-sport like WoW or other MMORPGS. It makes no sense to remove a function from the game because people might be sour and be rude, if anyone is rude just mute them or report. Ive been to OS (dueling capital ) a lot and most people there arent rude, so how about you stop assuming the PvP community is toxic because of your bad experiences.

Azure The Heartless.3261:

pigdog.9215:

I hope you understand bragging does increase competitiveness, do you not know that?

If people brag then pwn them and brag back?

Hmmm.

I’m far from advocating peace and love and joy and hugs, but the very least I can do is not shove that into an aspect of the game where teamwork is advocated.

The attitude you implied in your last post is exactly what needs to be kept out of PVE. In PVP it is muted a little because those same people you have an issue with could be on your team in the next SoloQ, and that is exactly how it should stay.

Map Chat is borderline not-toxic right now. Let’s keep it that way, shall we?

You cannot blame duels for toxic people, that logic is so flawed. People can be toxic because of dungeoning, are you going to remove dungeons? If people are toxic in map chat because of duels people will think badly of them and mute. If you view on the community is that low that duels = community unable to control their temper, then blame the community and not the function to duel.

Azure The Heartless.3261:

pigdog.9215:

I hope you understand bragging does increase competitiveness, do you not know that?

If people brag then pwn them and brag back?

Hmmm.

Well mentally the original bragger will realize that there will always be someone better than them and that its better not to brag because others will brag back. This being said bragging still does increase competitiveness, if there’s an kitten who is bragging someone else have motivation to get better and pwn them.

CrashTestAuto.9108:

I think people wrongly interpret the anger about the scavenger hunt. The problem wasn’t that they said they would do one thing, and didn’t do it. It’s a combination of two things:

1) The scavenger hunt is an extremely important issue for many people, as the RNG in the game was a big, big turn off. This seeming neglected for many, many other things that weren’t asked for caused frustration.

2) ANet didn’t follow up the communication. They said they’d do something, then didn’t? Why didn’t they? What are their current plans? Is there a technical difficulty, or are they unsure on the implementation? When they realised they couldn’t get the scavenger hunt done any time soon, all it would have taken is five minutes typing on a (sorely needed) centralised update blog what had happened and its predicted consequences.

Saying you will do something and then encountering a problem is fine. Saying you will do something very important, then doing lots of other unimportant things while remaining basically silent about the important thing for a year and a half is not.

I find it funny how the guild wars 2 community is probably one of the nicest gaming communities but arenanet managed to upset them pretty badly.

@ Vayne: Im sorry but if you READ what i said, i did specifically say duel and not “battle to the death”. If you’ve ever played WoW when you duel no one dies, they just get down to 1hp and the duel is over, there is no killing lol. Most of the guild wars 2 community is pretty nice. The chances of 2 people dueling that screws your event over and not helping but laughing at you is so small that its not even worth mentioning. Please if you don’t want dueling give a good reason why, hardly anyone is out to laugh at you because you asked for help.

Dusty Moon.4382:

pigdog.9215:

Vayne.8563:

pigdog.9215:

Vayne.8563:

pigdog.9215:

Dusty Moon.4382:

Slcrisis.6930:

+1 for dueling as always. wishful thinking though, I highly doubt they’ll implement it.

Again for the people who don’t want to duel, put in an option to ignore requests, simples. Doesn’t mean it should be cut out of the game completely just because some people would rather not duel their friends. That’s just silly.

Dueling is PvP and A.Net said their system design for the PvE side WAS NOT DESIGNED for any type of PvP.

That is why there are arenas in the sPvP area.

That isnt going to stop people from asking for it, arena net should just implement dueling in so people stop asking for it. Just because some people are scared that someone will laugh at their poor dueling performance it doesnt mean people don’t want it lol.

Nope Anet shouldn’t add things just because people ask for it. They should only add if it if it fits their vision for the game. My guess is that it doesn’t.

Then i guess their vision of the game doesnt include a large PVP scene l0l

It includes, like Guild Wars 1, a scene where PvP and PvE are separate entities that don’t really interact with each other. There was very little interaction between PvP and PvE in Guild Wars 1 and that was often considered a PvP-centric game.

That doesnt change the fact that dueling helps improve a pvp community, if you can go to an area where people randomly duel and you watch it’s interesting. They should have added a system where there is an area in the mists where you can duel instead of making it all instanced. Guild wars 2 is no way a PvP-centric game tho? Also guild wars 1 was no where near as pvp centric as WoW and look at how big WoW’s pvp scene is still now compared to gw1s.

Then duel in sPvP arena. My guild has done that many times. No one is stopping you. At least in the sPvP-centric arenas, everything is a little more balanced and no one profession will out power another.

In PvE, since it is built for teams, some professions are more support than others and would not win in a fair fight.

For me, I find that Duels DO NOT help bind the PvP world together – it is about bragging rights only.

GW1 was a TEAM based PvP while WoW was a group of individuals that tried to work together.

I hope you understand bragging does increase competitiveness, do you not know that? I hope you know people can brag about anything, if they brag about duels they can brag about achievements. If you read what i typed i said instanced pvp duels do not help create competitiveness. If you want the games PvP community to stay low and uninteresting then keep believing dueling somehow doesnt increase competitiveness, but if you actually care about the PvP then please stop trying to create a care bare environment. If people brag then pwn them and brag back?

Vayne.8563:

Scrambles.2604:

Vayne.8563:

pigdog.9215:

Vayne.8563:

pigdog.9215:

Vayne.8563:

pigdog.9215:

Vayne.8563:

pigdog.9215:

Dusty Moon.4382:

Slcrisis.6930:

+1 for dueling as always. wishful thinking though, I highly doubt they’ll implement it.

Again for the people who don’t want to duel, put in an option to ignore requests, simples. Doesn’t mean it should be cut out of the game completely just because some people would rather not duel their friends. That’s just silly.

Dueling is PvP and A.Net said their system design for the PvE side WAS NOT DESIGNED for any type of PvP.

That is why there are arenas in the sPvP area.

That isnt going to stop people from asking for it, arena net should just implement dueling in so people stop asking for it. Just because some people are scared that someone will laugh at their poor dueling performance it doesnt mean people don’t want it lol.

Nope Anet shouldn’t add things just because people ask for it. They should only add if it if it fits their vision for the game. My guess is that it doesn’t.

Then i guess their vision of the game doesnt include a large PVP scene l0l

It includes, like Guild Wars 1, a scene where PvP and PvE are separate entities that don’t really interact with each other. There was very little interaction between PvP and PvE in Guild Wars 1 and that was often considered a PvP-centric game.

That doesnt change the fact that dueling helps improve a pvp community, if you can go to an area where people randomly duel and you watch it’s interesting. They should have added a system where there is an area in the mists where you can duel instead of making it all instanced. Guild wars 2 is no way a PvP-centric game tho? Also guild wars 1 was no where near as pvp centric as WoW and look at how big WoW’s pvp scene is still now compared to gw1s.

So let them have arenas for dueling away from the open world. I never had a problem with that.

Like i said an area where people are dueling each other creates competitiveness, People will not randomly stumble upon people dueling and watch if its in a closed off area. Im just saying Guild wars 2 will never be competitive in the PvP scene if they arent creating an atmosphere where people can enjoy being competitive. If 2 people duel in a forrest who else knows besides them? no one, but if they duel outside a city everyone who goes past can watch the entertainment. Like i said just look at how popular WoW’s PvP is, it wouldn’t be that popular if they didn’t give players opportunities to be competitive ( dueling ).

So people can just start dueling in the middle of an event they’re not participating in and scale it up, making it harder for a person to do because they want to duel there? I don’t think that’s a good idea.

Two people wont effect a group event so significantly that it is the difference between win or loss. If two extra people not participating causes an event to fail, it was failed already. There are AFKers at every event already.

You gotta do better than that, Vayne

There aren’t AFKers at every event, unless you happen to be talking about meta events…but I’m not. Some of us actually play in the open world. Sometimes I come across an event and I’m the only one there.

Sometimes that event involves, say, protecting buildings from attacking enemies. It’s hard enough solo, running back and forth with the number of people who spawn. If two people were dueling there (or AFK there for that matter), the number of enemies would at least double. There’s no way in hell I could cope with that situation. There are many events I could think of that that would be a problem with.

Thats kind of silly actually, if 2 people are dueling in an event and notice it’s failing because of them then im SURE they’ll help out. Also if you’re dying run to them and they’ll get attacked and be forced to help out. Just ask the two people to duel away or help if you’re losing. I also don’t remember wiping random world events because people akitten in the event.

Vayne.8563:

pigdog.9215:

Vayne.8563:

pigdog.9215:

Vayne.8563:

pigdog.9215:

Vayne.8563:

pigdog.9215:

Dusty Moon.4382:

Slcrisis.6930:

+1 for dueling as always. wishful thinking though, I highly doubt they’ll implement it.

Again for the people who don’t want to duel, put in an option to ignore requests, simples. Doesn’t mean it should be cut out of the game completely just because some people would rather not duel their friends. That’s just silly.

Dueling is PvP and A.Net said their system design for the PvE side WAS NOT DESIGNED for any type of PvP.

That is why there are arenas in the sPvP area.

That isnt going to stop people from asking for it, arena net should just implement dueling in so people stop asking for it. Just because some people are scared that someone will laugh at their poor dueling performance it doesnt mean people don’t want it lol.

Nope Anet shouldn’t add things just because people ask for it. They should only add if it if it fits their vision for the game. My guess is that it doesn’t.

Then i guess their vision of the game doesnt include a large PVP scene l0l

It includes, like Guild Wars 1, a scene where PvP and PvE are separate entities that don’t really interact with each other. There was very little interaction between PvP and PvE in Guild Wars 1 and that was often considered a PvP-centric game.

That doesnt change the fact that dueling helps improve a pvp community, if you can go to an area where people randomly duel and you watch it’s interesting. They should have added a system where there is an area in the mists where you can duel instead of making it all instanced. Guild wars 2 is no way a PvP-centric game tho? Also guild wars 1 was no where near as pvp centric as WoW and look at how big WoW’s pvp scene is still now compared to gw1s.

So let them have arenas for dueling away from the open world. I never had a problem with that.

Like i said an area where people are dueling each other creates competitiveness, People will not randomly stumble upon people dueling and watch if its in a closed off area. Im just saying Guild wars 2 will never be competitive in the PvP scene if they arent creating an atmosphere where people can enjoy being competitive. If 2 people duel in a forrest who else knows besides them? no one, but if they duel outside a city everyone who goes past can watch the entertainment. Like i said just look at how popular WoW’s PvP is, it wouldn’t be that popular if they didn’t give players opportunities to be competitive ( dueling ).

So people can just start dueling in the middle of an event they’re not participating in and scale it up, making it harder for a person to do because they want to duel there? I don’t think that’s a good idea.

Well you’re obviously assuming that you’d be able to do that? In WoW there are places you can duel and places you cant, in gw2 an easy fix towards that is making you unable to duel in areas where events may appear. Any other issues they could easily fix. But like i said they don’t have to help the PvP community but they cant complain that it isnt competitive enough like other MMORPGS.

I think they just dug themselves into a hole and they don’t know how to get out. People expected a lot and what they’ve given just seems to not be good enough to the players, they don’t have the resources to fix the issues at the moment so they keep their mouths closed. Think about it, if they had something good to say they’d say it open arms, but if they don’t then they’ll keep quiet. If they need money they should release an expansion but they already dug themselves in a hole by saying we don’t need any =\. All we can do now is keep asking for answers i guess.

Vayne.8563:

pigdog.9215:

Vayne.8563:

pigdog.9215:

Vayne.8563:

pigdog.9215:

Dusty Moon.4382:

Slcrisis.6930:

+1 for dueling as always. wishful thinking though, I highly doubt they’ll implement it.

Again for the people who don’t want to duel, put in an option to ignore requests, simples. Doesn’t mean it should be cut out of the game completely just because some people would rather not duel their friends. That’s just silly.

Dueling is PvP and A.Net said their system design for the PvE side WAS NOT DESIGNED for any type of PvP.

That is why there are arenas in the sPvP area.

That isnt going to stop people from asking for it, arena net should just implement dueling in so people stop asking for it. Just because some people are scared that someone will laugh at their poor dueling performance it doesnt mean people don’t want it lol.

Nope Anet shouldn’t add things just because people ask for it. They should only add if it if it fits their vision for the game. My guess is that it doesn’t.

Then i guess their vision of the game doesnt include a large PVP scene l0l

It includes, like Guild Wars 1, a scene where PvP and PvE are separate entities that don’t really interact with each other. There was very little interaction between PvP and PvE in Guild Wars 1 and that was often considered a PvP-centric game.

That doesnt change the fact that dueling helps improve a pvp community, if you can go to an area where people randomly duel and you watch it’s interesting. They should have added a system where there is an area in the mists where you can duel instead of making it all instanced. Guild wars 2 is no way a PvP-centric game tho? Also guild wars 1 was no where near as pvp centric as WoW and look at how big WoW’s pvp scene is still now compared to gw1s.

So let them have arenas for dueling away from the open world. I never had a problem with that.

Like i said an area where people are dueling each other creates competitiveness, People will not randomly stumble upon people dueling and watch if its in a closed off area. Im just saying Guild wars 2 will never be competitive in the PvP scene if they arent creating an atmosphere where people can enjoy being competitive. If 2 people duel in a forrest who else knows besides them? no one, but if they duel outside a city everyone who goes past can watch the entertainment. Like i said just look at how popular WoW’s PvP is, it wouldn’t be that popular if they didn’t give players opportunities to be competitive ( dueling ).

Vayne.8563:

pigdog.9215:

Vayne.8563:

pigdog.9215:

Dusty Moon.4382:

Slcrisis.6930:

+1 for dueling as always. wishful thinking though, I highly doubt they’ll implement it.

Again for the people who don’t want to duel, put in an option to ignore requests, simples. Doesn’t mean it should be cut out of the game completely just because some people would rather not duel their friends. That’s just silly.

Dueling is PvP and A.Net said their system design for the PvE side WAS NOT DESIGNED for any type of PvP.

That is why there are arenas in the sPvP area.

That isnt going to stop people from asking for it, arena net should just implement dueling in so people stop asking for it. Just because some people are scared that someone will laugh at their poor dueling performance it doesnt mean people don’t want it lol.

Nope Anet shouldn’t add things just because people ask for it. They should only add if it if it fits their vision for the game. My guess is that it doesn’t.

Then i guess their vision of the game doesnt include a large PVP scene l0l

It includes, like Guild Wars 1, a scene where PvP and PvE are separate entities that don’t really interact with each other. There was very little interaction between PvP and PvE in Guild Wars 1 and that was often considered a PvP-centric game.

That doesnt change the fact that dueling helps improve a pvp community, if you can go to an area where people randomly duel and you watch it’s interesting. They should have added a system where there is an area in the mists where you can duel instead of making it all instanced. Guild wars 2 is no way a PvP-centric game tho? Also guild wars 1 was no where near as pvp centric as WoW and look at how big WoW’s pvp scene is still now compared to gw1s.

Azure The Heartless.3261:

I cannot see any cons besides other parts of the game not getting enough attention-

That is a perfectly good reason, sir.

We already have home instances that we can add nodes to, and invite people to.

They should be focusing on the depth and balance of the game and its professions at this time. Having a game so largely pushed to be competitive that gets sparing balance updates and then unveiling that they were working on player housing would be a silly blunder on their part.

I totally agree that they should be focusing on the depth and balance of the game but they arent? i mainly WvW, they havent addressed the main complaints about how the point system is flawed among many other things. I’ve given up on the depth of the game besides living story but living story is only 4 hours long every 2 weeks. Housing system would be something to do, just like the wardrobe is something for people to do that isnt a tedious task.

Vayne.8563:

pigdog.9215:

Dusty Moon.4382:

Slcrisis.6930:

+1 for dueling as always. wishful thinking though, I highly doubt they’ll implement it.

Again for the people who don’t want to duel, put in an option to ignore requests, simples. Doesn’t mean it should be cut out of the game completely just because some people would rather not duel their friends. That’s just silly.

Dueling is PvP and A.Net said their system design for the PvE side WAS NOT DESIGNED for any type of PvP.

That is why there are arenas in the sPvP area.

That isnt going to stop people from asking for it, arena net should just implement dueling in so people stop asking for it. Just because some people are scared that someone will laugh at their poor dueling performance it doesnt mean people don’t want it lol.

Nope Anet shouldn’t add things just because people ask for it. They should only add if it if it fits their vision for the game. My guess is that it doesn’t.

Then i guess their vision of the game doesnt include a large PVP scene l0l. There is no way people will take the PvP as seriously as WoWs if you cant even duel people.

SAB was a hit amongst players that’s true, so arenanet are using that team to help create an awesome living world. Im sure after their game is at a place they’re happy with then they’ll spend time on other filler updates like SAB. I believe they should be adding things faster than they are now tho.

Dusty Moon.4382:

Slcrisis.6930:

+1 for dueling as always. wishful thinking though, I highly doubt they’ll implement it.

Again for the people who don’t want to duel, put in an option to ignore requests, simples. Doesn’t mean it should be cut out of the game completely just because some people would rather not duel their friends. That’s just silly.

Dueling is PvP and A.Net said their system design for the PvE side WAS NOT DESIGNED for any type of PvP.

That is why there are arenas in the sPvP area.

That isnt going to stop people from asking for it, arena net should just implement dueling in so people stop asking for it. Just because some people are scared that someone will laugh at their poor dueling performance it doesnt mean people don’t want it lol.

Dusty Moon.4382:

pigdog.9215:

I love is the wardrobe system because it gives me time to do something i enjoy, play dress up and everyone loves it. I’ve played the game since launch and the only update that i enjoyed the most is the wardrobe system, can yall add the housing system now so we have something fun to do other than grinding. This game has emphasis on cosmetic so it makes sense for us to have houses to spend time in and you can even sell housing items in gem store for income. Please make the game interesting by adding things that we can spend time in and enjoy time spent, instead of mindlessly grinding gold for things i don’t even want COUGH plant back item*COUGH*. Anyway please add housing system or something we’d really enjoy like the wardrobe system!

No – just no. Another thing that is useless and does NOTHING to help the game forward.

Just like mounts, it is more a ‘Look at me!’ feature than a feature that drives the story forward.

The wardrobe was put in to help alleviate the issues with skins – it makes them easier to use. What would housing do like that?

“help the game forward” Means what exactly? I enjoy the cosmetic side of gw2 which is why i play it instead of a grind orientated mmorpg. housing system would be a huge time sync into the game, it’ll give people something to do, people can visit each other houses, they could add plenty of things into a housing system. I cannot see any cons besides other parts of the game not getting enough attention but that isnt a good enough reason to not implement a potentially good feature.

Beldin.5498:

pigdog.9215:

Just wait for newer ones to come out, i know in the future they’ll be extremely immersive MMORPGS, take a look at Black Desert for one.

Black Desert is another Asian grinder with open PvP .. so yeah .. if you like that you can
already play AION or Lineage 2 .. in the end its just the same only with better graphics.

You do know that black desert has a large trading economy that i havent seen in any RPG in ages, you can climb things like in assassins creed, combat is immersive and the environment looks extremely immersive. Aion/lineage 2 don’t have those things so why would i play them? Also the game isnt even out yet so comparing it to released games is kind of silly don’t you think

I love is the wardrobe system because it gives me time to do something i enjoy, play dress up and everyone loves it. I’ve played the game since launch and the only update that i enjoyed the most is the wardrobe system, can yall add the housing system now so we have something fun to do other than grinding. This game has emphasis on cosmetic so it makes sense for us to have houses to spend time in and you can even sell housing items in gem store for income. Please make the game interesting by adding things that we can spend time in and enjoy time spent, instead of mindlessly grinding gold for things i don’t even want COUGH plant back item*COUGH*. Anyway please add housing system or something we’d really enjoy like the wardrobe system!

Vayne.8563:

pigdog.9215:

Vayne.8563:

pigdog.9215:

Draknar.5748:

pigdog.9215:

You can never get bored of MMORPGS but only get bored of the game. It’s arenanets responsibility to keep people interested in the game, they should just release expansions so they get money to support the game. Im kinda bored of the game but keep playing because i hope it’ll get better.

You can totally get bored of MMORPGs….

You can get bored of the whole concept of leveling up characters, doing quests, dungeons, getting gear, etc. There are plenty of people who are bored of the genre.

Thats untrue, you can never get bored of an MMORPG if you’ve enjoyed it in the past.
most people enjoy progression and exploring a new game because it’s fascinating and enjoyable. It gets boring when there is nothing new anymore, which you can fix by playing a new mmorpg that has newer things that you haven’t experienced before. People who dont play MMORPGS anymore that i know only say its too time consuming or they arent interested in those types of games anymore. The feeling of progression and new experiences never gets old.

Well it’s obviously true for the poster. You just have a different experience.

I’ve played so many MMOs that I dont’ find most of them enjoyable, particularly if they have like elves and dwarves in them. They’re just so played out. I don’t mind leveling or progressing, but I don’t think I could ever go back to the old quest hub, wall of text system.

In fact, I now find all linear questing games intolerable.

Exactly, which is why i said you can never get old of MMORPGS, because new ones bring newer features that are interesting. Example is GW2, its action combat was a breath of fresh air from the classic style used in WoW. You can get bored of certain games but u need to understand you cant of the genre. You must be bored of the mmorpgs that you’ve played so far, trust me there are plenty new better ones out/coming out.

Tried ESO, couldn’t pay it. Tried Wildstar couldn’t play it. Haven’t tried Arch Age, but I’ve watched videos and know it’s not for me. I’m bored of the genre as it stood. I used to like aspects of it that I’ve grown beyond.

Just wait for newer ones to come out, i know in the future they’ll be extremely immersive MMORPGS, take a look at Black Desert for one. Imagine the kind of MMORPG in 10 years? i know it’ll have so many features that i couldn’t even imagine. It just takes time for games to improve, in all genres.

The colour tags for 300g just make me laugh, we don’t even need colour tags, most guilds just communicate by talking in map chat. It really isnt hard to say {guild} is going to take bay. Let arenanet have those over priced tags, you don’t need it, but its rubish addition to wvw.

Vayne.8563:

pigdog.9215:

Draknar.5748:

pigdog.9215:

You can never get bored of MMORPGS but only get bored of the game. It’s arenanets responsibility to keep people interested in the game, they should just release expansions so they get money to support the game. Im kinda bored of the game but keep playing because i hope it’ll get better.

You can totally get bored of MMORPGs….

You can get bored of the whole concept of leveling up characters, doing quests, dungeons, getting gear, etc. There are plenty of people who are bored of the genre.

Thats untrue, you can never get bored of an MMORPG if you’ve enjoyed it in the past.
most people enjoy progression and exploring a new game because it’s fascinating and enjoyable. It gets boring when there is nothing new anymore, which you can fix by playing a new mmorpg that has newer things that you haven’t experienced before. People who dont play MMORPGS anymore that i know only say its too time consuming or they arent interested in those types of games anymore. The feeling of progression and new experiences never gets old.

Well it’s obviously true for the poster. You just have a different experience.

I’ve played so many MMOs that I dont’ find most of them enjoyable, particularly if they have like elves and dwarves in them. They’re just so played out. I don’t mind leveling or progressing, but I don’t think I could ever go back to the old quest hub, wall of text system.

In fact, I now find all linear questing games intolerable.

Exactly, which is why i said you can never get old of MMORPGS, because new ones bring newer features that are interesting. Example is GW2, its action combat was a breath of fresh air from the classic style used in WoW. You can get bored of certain games but u need to understand you cant of the genre. You must be bored of the mmorpgs that you’ve played so far, trust me there are plenty new better ones out/coming out.

Draknar.5748:

pigdog.9215:

You can never get bored of MMORPGS but only get bored of the game. It’s arenanets responsibility to keep people interested in the game, they should just release expansions so they get money to support the game. Im kinda bored of the game but keep playing because i hope it’ll get better.

You can totally get bored of MMORPGs….

You can get bored of the whole concept of leveling up characters, doing quests, dungeons, getting gear, etc. There are plenty of people who are bored of the genre.

Thats untrue, you can never get bored of an MMORPGs if you’ve enjoyed it in the past.
most people enjoy progression and exploring a new game because it’s fascinating and enjoyable. It gets boring when there is nothing new anymore, which you can fix by playing a new mmorpg that has newer things that you haven’t experienced before. The feeling of progression and new experiences never gets old.

Dusty Moon.4382:

Yargesh.4965:

Trying to justify a hissy fit is just another indication of a lack of maturity in my opinion.

Yup – it is a bloody game for pete’s sake. It is not like your life will end if the game isn’t as great as you expect it to be. I think the big problem is the ‘Entitled’ mentality in today’s society. It is prevalent everywhere.

Yup – it is bloody food for pete’s sake. It is not like your life will end if the price of food isnt as great as you expect it to be. I think the big problem is the ‘Entitled’ mentality in today’s society. It is prevalent everywhere.

You can never get bored of MMORPGS but only get bored of the game. It’s arenanets responsibility to keep people interested in the game, they should just release expansions so they get money to support the game. Im kinda bored of the game but keep playing because i hope it’ll get better.

BlueZone.4236:

Vayne.8563:

BlueZone.4236:

Vayne.8563:

BlueZone.4236:

Vayne.8563:

It’s just a bad interview because the two guys answering those questions aren’t actually involved with anything asked about.

Bad interviews happen. Those guys shouldn’t have been the guys answering that interview.

I don’t see how it’s a bad interview, at all.
Having guys in the “right” department saying ‘no/nothing’s off the table’ will make it a better interview? Hint: It doesn’t.

No because the questions asked were fan questions about stuff they’re not really working on. They’re not working on FoV and they’re not working on First person stuff and they never pretended they were. They don’t plan on bringing SAB out during this season and fans want it. Well you know, it wouldn’t be the end of the world if Anet brought it out, but it wouldn’t be the end of the world if they didn’t.

There’s really no good way to have an interview with rabid fans who expect THEIR concerns to be the major concerns.

Precusor crafting is the one thing I could see people getting really riled up about, because they’ve been waiting a long time.

I’d still rather see the rest of the stuff coming out in the patch before I start lighting torches and carrying pitchforks though.

Yeah, so basically it didn’t matter who gives the response, because they’d all give the same answer.

Sometimes it’s not what you’re saying it’s how you say it. When it’s your area of interest, you’d have spent more time thinking about how to present your answers. When you’re answering out of your comfort zone you’re going to stumble. Basic human psychology.

They weren’t stumbling. They were trying to sound like they had a lot to say about something even though they knew that ‘something’ is nothing.

Thus treating us like idiots? If they honestly said “if we have more support from the community about this than what we’re currently doing it then it’ll happen” then people wouldn’t complain. They literally told us that there is no first person view because you lose vision therefore not fair? If you treat people like morons by making empty promises and lying then its obvious people will get upset.

I dont understand the point of the different colours in wvw, most guilds dont like to tag up because they don’t want randoms to see where they are. What are the points of the 4 colours? Oh its up for community to decide? Okay how about its used for nothing because its useless

Offair.2563:

Arghore.8340:

Also, if you build an AC somewhere decently close to the door, you can simply target locations behind the door, through the little slit above every door… no wide monitor or zoom hack required…

Indeed, there are also sneaky spots to put an ac down so you can shoot over a wall without having to “zoomhack”.

That isnt what OP is talking about, i’ve been wvwing for awhile and it’s pretty annoying that people who can afford huge monitors can AC over a wall, i cannot do it w/e the position, i dont have 3 monitors. its simply not fair.

Thanks for clearing it up!

http://prntscr.com/3cu7kb

How can the top three servers both be first?

Whats the difference between this guild and the rest?

Does this guild care about points?

SkyShroud.2865:

That’s sound like making besieging harder and WvW becoming siege war.

Oh you mean a war simulator? yeah thats what its supposed to be https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P92R536iRX8

psizone.8437:

pigdog.9215:

morrolan.9608:

pigdog.9215:

You all need to remember this is a f2p game ( buying once) which gives us FREE content, it is a very new look on producing an MMORPG.

No it isn’t.

Would you like some facts with that statement?

It’s a buy-to-play game, slightly different than F2P and so far the ‘free’ content is included with your purchase.

I, too, wish they’d take these forums more seriously.

link to a game which offers as much as gw2 does for $50 ( $25 on sales ) for a mmorpg which releases updates and new content. Otherwise don’t try responding

morrolan.9608:

pigdog.9215:

morrolan.9608:

pigdog.9215:

You all need to remember this is a f2p game ( buying once) which gives us FREE content, it is a very new look on producing an MMORPG.

No it isn’t.

Would you like some facts with that statement?

Self evident, there have been lots of f2p games done before GW2.

Would you like some context to back up your statement? Lol kid stop replying with no context

morrolan.9608:

pigdog.9215:

You all need to remember this is a f2p game ( buying once) which gives us FREE content, it is a very new look on producing an MMORPG.

No it isn’t.

Would you like some facts with that statement?

The repair cost was so minimal that there was no point for it to cost anything.

State problem and then possible solutions underneath.

Problem: Unrealistic battles where groups blob onto each other.

Solution 1: Increase area of damage certain seiges do regarding to amount of players in the specific area size. This will force players to disperse into different directions.

Solution 2: Catapults/Trebs deploys multiple stiny stones of rubble and all siege have increased damage towards players but require ammunition which is supplied from supply. ( Amount of ammo used/gained can be figured out by testing this theory )

Point of this thread is for devs to easily get thought out solutions to ingame problems.

An easy fix would be creating like a new type of siege that can disperse zergs easily by creating an a skill that does a crazy amount of extra damage towards the higher amount of people in a certain area. Like balista doing 10x more dmg if it has 10 people in a area circle

Also giving seige a size limit where you can’t run through it but only jump over or destroy it ( and making seige not blockable if you occupy the area to stop trolling )

styx.7294:

Alright, I’m a paying customer. I bought the game and I’ve bought from the gem store (with gold as well as dollars). My last dollar purchase was 800 gems for the guild finisher. So recent enough. My point is I’m not someone who hasn’t played the game for 6 months and only comes to whine. I’m active, paying, engaged.

I will use the sPvP forums as an example but this isn’t about whining or being jealous. This is about illustrating what sort of service I am expecting and not getting.

It’s easy to bring up how many dev posts there are in sPvP front page (at all times) compared to WvW forums. It’s kittening shameful.

More specific example. This Friday a blog post was revealed for a sPvP feature. People had concerns and how fast were their concerns answered even before that blog post happened? There were even posts before even the blog post letting people know whether it will address their concerns.

“I’ll put down the rumors right now: This is not Gw1 Templates.

Watch this Friday’s Ready Up to learn more!"
(https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/pvp/PVP-build-button-noticed/first#post3809737)

As soon as the blog post was up, a dev started a post to talk about it in the sPvP forum (https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/pvp/PvP-Rewards-Blog)

That’s engagement and that’s service.

What’s it like on the WvW forums? No talk about what’s happenin with WXP account bound since February. No follow up discussion or whatever.

Instead people on the WvW forums are digging up threads from a thousand years ago (6+ months) about WXP account bound and other things (commander functionality!) because that’s all the dev talk there is.

It’s gotten really pathetic and sad here.

Look at this thread https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/wuv/wuv/Commander-Abilities/first! It’s 7 months old, wasn’t even 2 pages, but still got dug up and started a conversation about commander tags because Devon posted in it. That’s the state of engagement we have.

I get different people have different personalities. If Devon Carter isn’t big on posting, that’s fine, that’s not a fault.

What is a fault is that you haven’t gone and hired someone to start posting in here instead. Hire someone already!

I know it’s not super exciting sayin “We’re workin on that but can’t reveal anything” or “We’re not working on that but we can consider it” but it beats this mess.

Besides, there are things to talk about. We had a whole huge thread about transfer fees and population balance. Where’s the follow up on that? Did this create different trajectories of transfer before or after? What are commander tags doin? Are more WXP abilities coming? Do you think people get through gates too fast? Are you looking at lifting the AoE cap or is it still off the books (just keep telling us the state of these things, the game is ongoing and new people want to know!).

/vent

I figured I’d put this up here so that other people can vent too, haha. Hope it doesn’t get deleted! If I can’t communicate to a company through their forums, I dunno what!

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/wuv/wuv/RE-Where-are-all-the-devs/first#post3937612

You all need to remember this is a f2p game ( buying once) which gives us FREE content, it is a very new look on producing an MMORPG. Majority of devs are on different forums which are easily managed and have the most attention.

WvW is huge and they obviously do not have enough time to focus on WvW considering other major flaws in the game that they have been fixing ( the new patch ). They get their income purely from the gem store, they are fixing and strengthening game qualities that will encourage people to spend more in the gem store, therefore trying to prevent the game from dying and thus us not being able to play anymore.

I am mainly a WvWer and enjoy it even though i am aware of major flaws and feel a bit neglected by the lack of content, but I praise and love anet for trying the best they can for creating free content and continuously updating the game.

TL:DR Give them time to strengthen fixations in the game which provide the game its income to stay afloat by being less toxic and spoilt expecting things straight away. WvW will get fixed, eventually but being toxic, pessemistic and rude towards devs which don’t even get paid will not help us get anything we want.

Props to anet, and i look foward to the lovely patches you release to provide us players free content to keep us interested.

Rumus.3629:

I’m looking for a server that has fun in WvW, I am currently on Anvil Rock, but I don’t see much being done, and I hardly see anyone around most of the time. I’m only able to find posts from 2012 by looking up information on Google, so any suggestions would be very much appreciated.

SoS is pretty cool, friendly and active in WvW. Also finds it way into Tier 1 sometimes, which adds a different experience in being the underdogs instead of the upper dogs in T2

I agree with you, don’t think anet cares as much about WvW compared to PvE tho =\, i enjoy the game but feel like the WvW aspect of the game isnt catered to much…

Only a WvE player would be confused in this thread