Guild Wars 2

there were also a lot of holes in your concept. like basilisk venom is removable, cant perma stealth with p/d, spike with what? more conditions how will that hurt your back? And why would you run from 2 conditions? most i can pull off is about 7 bleeds and 7 torment at a time. That not too unbearable if you have SOME condi removal. Confusion that you can stack up to about 13 and re-apply constantly is a totally different story my man.

Ricky.4706:

so basically it’s ok to stay perma stealth, turn people to stone, so they can’t fight when you’re visible, go invisible, then stack torment which can cast 2 times per second if I move, go invis again, watch me die from trying to run – then spike me from the back……..but nerf me with light armor, slow mobility because i can actually end your character just as fast ?

more shiny stuff please!!

Sir i would never play so disrespectfully. Good heavens what you described is filth. Thief filth.

Wraistlin.6072:

ryan.6217:

My biggest problem with perplexity runes is that they created a build. Most runes only aid in a build, or further your build, or balance your build, and cover up a weakness in your build, or build your build, or synonym your build.

Perplexity runes literally inspired a build. And by inspired a build i mean, dawned dire/carrion gear, threw some rupts in there and lold at the results.

I think these runes should aid players who already utilize confusion, not grant any dork that can spam 4 unlimited condition power.

I use torment runes because i play a p/d thief. I mostly use my 1 and 3 skill to stack torment and bleeding. Knowing that my torment skill drained my initiative rather fast i bought the torment ruins so i didnt have to spam as much now i can stack torment without wasting all my initiative!

This is where I respectfully disagree. I think it is awesome that an item can get players to think outside the box of their standard builds to make something unique. That’s what makes this MMO so different from most. You don’t have the ridged cookie cutter builds that everyone has to use if you are playing “x” class. Most have a swing of 10-15 pts.

So an item that can totally create new builds for some classes is awesome.

Touche courteous responder. I completely agree with your concept, but there is nothing outside the box or unique about " Omga i hav axis to confuz if i spam 4"… otherwise im all for outside the box!!! I’m even, i guess, fine with the fact that these runes allow people to use confusion that previously couldn’t. My problem is that this rune makes it so people don’t even have to think! Just outlast your opponents condi clear and watch him/her squirm.

My biggest problem with perplexity runes is that they created a build. Most runes only aid in a build, or further your build, or balance your build, and cover up a weakness in your build, or build your build, or synonym your build.

Perplexity runes literally inspired a build. And by inspired a build i mean, dawned dire/carrion gear, threw some rupts in there and lold at the results.

I think these runes should aid players who already utilize confusion, not grant any dork that can spam 4 unlimited condition power.

I use torment runes because i play a p/d thief. I mostly use my 1 and 3 skill to stack torment and bleeding. Knowing that my torment skill drained my initiative rather fast i bought the torment ruins so i didnt have to spam as much now i can stack torment without wasting all my initiative!

I’m for this too! +1!!!! I saw a lot of players baggin on the idea of “PvP finishers” in PvE. Anyway, i feel A-net is making a move in the right direction, giving their AI purpose and skill even! enemies dodging my attacks, and tanky creatures reviving their allies. It’s like an actual game! The people complaining, i think, have never gone on a VS run (BiP necro right here)

sanictoofast.9317:

ryan.6217:

This was just plane rude. You offered nothing to contribute to this post. You simply disrespected the comments made by people actually trying to contribute. It’s okay if you don’t wish to play human, but you shouldn’t bash on everybody that wants to play one

well aren’t you just the humane poster “kekekekek” sympathize with humans more why don’t you. maybe humans shouldnt bash non humans cause they don’t look exactly like them. YOU’RE THE RACISTS! You’re the uncultured farquaads that infest my fairytale world. sure divinities reach is big enough, but look at the location!

1. This was funny. I laughed
2. I sympathized with charr more than humans in the post right after
3. “uncultured”… that is just … wrong, really. A-net gave most of the 5 playable races decent culture. Humans got the most out of that, let’s not lie.
4. Truly was funny. Just exploded into Shrek rage.

sanictoofast.9317:

You humans are all the same. I make my race and class choices based on masterrace and you like humies cause they’re.. generic? with nothing interesting about them so you can relate well? I can’t understand your petty reasoning. All i know is humans are a scourge to MMOs and should have died off a long time ago. Every game with multiple races are ruined to a degree because humans are an option.
Absolutely disgusting. You bash charr for trying to wipe your piggy faces off Tyria? I don’t blame them! You’re so generic its not even funny, especially you human Huntards. Your lack of imagination, your close-mindedness, if you love humans so much just go outside. Humans are the majority of my block list, they’re all confirmed for bags of kittens.
There is no cure for the cancer that is humanity. Only fire can purge your delicate baby faces off tyria.
Gaheron where’d you go?
Gaheron where’d you go!?
I been so lost without you!
these humies are all wrong, there’s no one here to beriiiide them~

This was just plane rude. You offered nothing to contribute to this post. You simply disrespected the comments made by people actually trying to contribute. It’s okay if you don’t wish to play human, but you shouldn’t bash on everybody that wants to play one

Actually I believe there have been studies abut this. Most people choose to play humans in a game where other races are playable because of relation. When you play as a human you tend to have a connection to the character, you can relate. This is also why a lot of people make their characters glorified avatars of themselves. When you play as a non-human, like asura and charr, you lose the ability to connect to the race. Their morals and values may accurately represent our own, but you don’t quite connect to them.

I LOVE charr. Seriously they are my favorite creatures as far as lore and looks go. A-net actually made something completely unique and gave them bad kitten lore to follow. So when i found out I could play one in GW2 my mind was made up. After playing beta though i felt like i lost interest. When playing as a charr i almost felt like i was playing as a tonic. Ended up maining a human, because it just felt right.

I can… (thief)

animalmom.1062:

“Rune of Perplexity? There’s plenty of kittens exploiting this”

What is the exploit? Or do you mean using it as intended?

Yeah and I bet you use perplexity too… there’s a special place in the Fissure of Woe for people like you that "use perplexity for its intended purpose. If you need help making an ACTUAL build, there are people on the forums who can help you man.

AMonkey.2385:

The word “assassin” may be Arabic related, but I doubt the concept of an assassin only came out of Arabia. Personally I like tight fitting clothes. In real life thats what I wear, I hate wearing bulky or overly showy clothes, I like well fitted clothes that show off my figure, with a bit of skin, so its how I like to dress characters in video games.

My biggest problem with a lot of the thief gear is the flowing robes/tails of the chest pieces. In my original screenshot the top half looks great, but the flow isn’t.

Where can I acquire duellist gear guys? It seems to be something you can buy through the TP but last time I checked it was down. And are 80 transmutation stones only available through the gem store?

As a male thief player, I too like wearing tight form fitting clothes that show off some skin.

yeah i think you’re right. P/P is pretty FUBAR. You can’t base a set off a heavy initiative skill, you have to base a set off the one skill or you become too reliant on initiative. The problem with P/P is everyone goes straight zerk and hopes to god they can down a player after spamming 3 until their initiative pool is gone. I personally would be more scared of a thief running P/P with full rampager’s set. Heavy condition, with some nice power? Maybe some assassin’s accessories? That’s how P/P should be played…. i think ima try that. maybe rock those god awful perplexity runes and just lol at my dps

Wow whats with all the QQ? Can’t learn how to play thief and blaming it on the patch? This looks like a ranger thread to me. P/D is one of the most op tactics in game right now with condi meta. S/P is just as useful as it ever was for PvE, blinding powder and pw still wreck all NPC’s . Can’t forget S/D still has perma evade and damage, so sorry it lost 1 boon from all the QQ eles and guards gave it. Thief has it really easy compared to other classes when it comes to patches.

messiah.1908:

imo Body shot in P/D set isnt much needed all p/d thieves who learn to play it before the patch will continue do so affective after . i would prefer other condition instead of immobilization

I would enjoy a condition too, playing a P/D condi thief, but i think A-net was trying to consider P/P thieves as well. The attack was also meant to be more team based, so i get the immob. All in all i like it. I am traited 20/0/30/0/20 and have 0 swiftness or speed skills. Unless i swap out bow im not chasing anyone in wvw. shadow step and this skill work wonders though

Have you guys seen the crap eles say about thieves on their forums?!

i don’t think i understand what the problem is? are you upset that you can kill mesmers?

A-net should make a new hat worth 1 million G and you have to sell your soul to NCsoft!!! and then when you put on your hat… people know you mean business

hey thanks for all the responses everyone!!! surprised this thread got so much attention made me smile! This feedback was helpful. I have respect for warriors. Least QQ group of players on this game

In PvE this is a practical team skill… to be fair. It definitely is not at an elite standard. eles can turn into a tornado, mesmers can turn you into a Moa, and thieves can stun you. Seems about right.

Yeah a build like this is straight amazing for a small 5 man group running around in WvW. I used to run a similar build on my thief, but i like killing people too much haha. Support thief is deceptively powerful if ACTUALLY played kutos for posting man, maybe some WuvWuv guild will pick this up in their havoc tactics (Hell even I might)

Hi there warriors! The only character I have is a thief (I don’t even feel like I’m playing gw2 if I’m not playing one haha), and I was just wondering… Does it just rock being a warrior? I don’t have much to complain about, being a thief A-net has treated us better than some other professions. What are the ups and downs of playing a War? Do you get a lot of crap? What are some false perceptions? I’m interested essentially in a warrior’s opinion of warrior, not a hardcore ranger’s opinion of warrior.

Hoping this wont reset the achievement progress made so far, If so then i will already have a year under my belt.

qualm like a bomb.6512:

kuora.5402:

Have No Faith In Me.1840:

I’ve known of people who have destroyed our servers golems.

And they had a good reason.

It was “We are versing 2 teams 2 tiers below us. There is absolutely no reason to golem rush like noobs.”

That is indeed a good reason.

Thank you for your honor kind sir. The game needs more people like this rather than the world stacking mouth breathers it has now.

Bunch of mouth breathers. Gosh that is still funny. Honestly have to laugh whenever i read it or hear it in TS

mini.6018:

ilr.9675:

Player Character.9467:

Ele/mesmer/thief/guardian can out dps warrior with same buffs as the warrior. Warrior dps only comes from the ability to sustain self might/fury.

Thief can outrun sword/warhorn/greatsword warrior by using a sbow, ESPECIALLY when the terrain isn’t a flat straight line.

& require much more specializing & skill to pull off.
Don’t try to fudge the point

LOL wut ?y we all know how much skill thieves need,especially in the new s/d meta.Spam 2 and 3 is really hard.

Takes skill to outrun a war and a lot of specialization ?Nonono you can’t be serious.Heartseeker spam while invisible makes heartseeker jump 50% farther and run 50% faster,sword 2 spam,shortbow that only takes a mouse pointed on the ground,and not even counting utility.

Now shoo

“Shortbow that only takes a mouse pointed on the ground”… yes… like every other AoE/port skill in the game…. Don’t add irrelevant facts to make your argument look better. Also yeah, lets spam HS, “oh sweet we actually caught up to him..ope all my initiative is gone, ill wait here… you go on ahead”. How about we use 2 skill on sword instead, yeah? some immobolize will do the trick right? “Oh look 2 skill worked, i caught up to him, oh no, immob only lasted 2 seconds. well you run up ahead war, once i port back to my original location i’ll try and catch back up with yu”.

100% agree with the OP. I also like how everyone here is either in agreement with the proposal, or at least suggesting improvements to it. I also enjoy how everyone against it is immediately shut down with logical, well thought out counter-arguments. The real GW2 community knows what it wants.

I laughed when I read this title. I play a P/D condi thief, and i didnt want to sacrifice my builds effectiveness by traiting into, or adding a speed skill JUST so i could catch runners. Instead i just take it as a compliment. They may be better at swiftness and GS physics than I, but I give myself a little pat on the back whenever I have to sit back and watch a mesmer stumble around for every speed skill it doesn’t have to avoid my pvp rabbit finisher

Well the recruiting is going slowly but surely. About one new player a day, at this rate! We are looking to have a strong presence in WvW, but will also do dungeon runs, fractals, and weekly guild missions of course! We also have a TS channel if you want to talk to us prior to joining, Compliments to Dtc Justice. so if you want to join pm Master Rayn, Urnaos, or Zhular Vyzem for an invite! No rep requirements either, do your own thing, and stuff.

New guild trying to get started. Looking for active base players to help us get some structure as well as players. We are currently doing a weekly guild bounty every Sunday at 7:30, but hoping to become a mainly WvW guild for BP. If you are wanting to join pm Master Rayn, Urnaos, or Zhular Vyzem for more details.

*No required rep, yet. We wouldn’t want to hold you back form a strong guild and their go abouts until while we are just trying to expand our player base atm. When we have a certain amount of players, we will be looking for representation at least once a week if possible.

Prismatic Moa Birds is an old guild, we’ve been in Borlis Pass since early access, that is looking to start recruitments. We have, with our 15 base members, unlocked almost all upgrades, and now we really just need some players to utilize them! Once we get our footing we will specialize in WvW, but being a bit casual, there isn’t anything we really won’t do. Weekly guild missions will be done every Saturday night at 8pm once we get a large enough guild to attempt them! PM Master Rayn, Syvarris Theracus, or Zhular Vyzem to get in! Hoping to see some interested new players joining the “flock”!!!

BP Pride…. Even in these dark times

This is the kind of build I’ve been running. Using a dire set, running 20/0/30/0/20. using spider and skale venom though…. you know what.. the only thing similar about our builds is the use of PD and the end result I guess. I’m glad to see so many more PD thieves out there. Conditions rule!

Nope, I’m 100% with you. It can be fun and still require a bit less. It’s not even a matter of if you are good at the game, it’s a matter of the whole team having to be god at the game. Which, when dealing with PUGs, isn’t always a very likely situation…

Grimno, are you a class act Charr warrior? if so, I was just in your group, and we were both conspiring the same thing.

So it is understood that the level is easy, rather short (in comparison to other fractals), and simple in concept, but could you do less? The problem is, of course, the end boss. If it isn’t bad enough that he himself does a ton of damage, everything else going on is pure chaos. Dodging lava plumes, hot foot condition, kiting him away from the villagers (who must be GWAMM to not take a crap ton of burning damage), Breaking his bubble shield, and all that immobilize. Yes, it is beatable, and yes it is a cool concept, but don’t you think it’s a bit much to deal with? Would anybody else like to see A-net take away at least one of the distractions?

gathering omnom berries, /wave, watching people shoot the lover. I’m in.

Agreed bro. They were planning on wrecking me with an ambush, but I saw it coming so I stayed put by my legendaries long enough that we both just ended up realizing the futile effort of it all; They’d get one kill. I’d get wrecked by the six of them. The fact that we walked all the way to the lake and killed some krait together was just a hilarious bonus. Then we went our separate ways. ALS is a great guild though. Admirable in any fight.

Haha dude calm down. This mouse had a good time with those cats. Even though next time we see each other it’ll be on less friendly terms.

Was trying to get the daily while in WvW today, outside of the Borlis Pass Spawn I ran into a guild called [ASL] (Anvils Last Stand). Every time you kill a player, they have to repair their armor. Save some silver. Kill an NPC.