Guild Wars 2

Thanks for your feedback everyone Due to feedback I will add a trait link to the first post.

Kazhiel.8194:

Uhm, nice vid for people who are clueless, but the rest of us who know how to play Mesmer would rather just see you list your traits.

I decided to try and do this from the ground up so people who have never played Mesmer before are able to gain as much information in one places as they can. Sneaky Bear allready covered the rest of your post.

Shakezoola.8359:

Why in the world would you take confusion on blind instead of illusionary persona?

Because even though Shatters are used in the build it focuses around having Chaos Armor up as much as possible and the Confusion on Blind trait gives it a 2/3 chance to apply a Confusion application even with the suspected bug it would seem. In addition the build rewards you for having your illusions up by awarding 9% damage reduction and additional health from your heal over shattering them.

In my opinion more confusion applications are given to all enemies through out the fight from Chaos Armor being up so much and the trait than would be by being able to add an extra one or two applications from Illusionary Persona.

Volatility.6729:

I actually used SF as well pre TP buff; didn’t see too many others running 0-20-20-0-30 for confi. Fun vs wvw masses but will get torn apart by a phant mes, PVT tank mes, exceptional PD thief etc. Eg. Melandru runes + -40 condi dur = GG.

Unfortunately this is partly accurate but I don’t think there are any builds that are effective against everything. Good Shattercat players and PD Theifs can be a challenge but I don’t recall having too much trouble with PVT Mesmers but that may just be the people I have fought.

Even with the +33% condition duration trait and the condition duration food the build does take a hit if the player stacks – condition duration but thankfully not many players seem to

Sneaky Bear.3704:

It’s 7:36 on the first video.

Not being funny, but it literally took about 10 seconds of skimming through the video to see them.

+1ed for logical thinking

Pyroatheist.9031:

Doesn’t really matter. It’s bad form to not have a link to the build, and have it 100% in video format. It’s inconvenient at best, and extremely annoying at worst if you are trying to look at the build on a mobile device or something similar.

Could you please clarify how it is inconvenient and annoying to watch youtube videos on mobile devices ? To my knowledge none of my videos are restricted on mobile devices so all should be viewable. I have watched many video’s on my devices with no trouble at all.

I have honestly lost count of the number of times I have clicked a build link and it hasnt displayed properly with my mobile devices, There is one build calculator website that just doesnt load traits at all on iOS for some reason.

What group set up do you usually run with. ?

Do you just hunt for kills and take camps or do you do other stuff ?

Condition Tank build.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/mesmer/Guide-Samski-s-Condition-Tank-Mesmer

Managed to get that guide online OP.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/mesmer/Guide-Samski-s-Condition-Tank-Mesmer/first#post1608418

I’m not a fan of the scepter at all, the sword has a 2 second invulnerability and immobilize/gapcloser.

The scepter 3 skill is too easy to avoid, as soon as players see the big lazer they will either dodge to stop its effects or just wait for the confusion stacks to drop off…..

Maybe check this video out for an overview of all weapons…..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elrrtXPDXtY

Ah right thats prolly why I cant find any information on it if it was back in beta.

What exactly would be required ?

I have just finished uploading my video guide for my condition tank build.

Maybe it can help you out with seeing how Staff builds come togeather…..

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/mesmer/Guide-Samski-s-Condition-Tank-Mesmer/first#post1608418

I don’t have much experience with the Immortal Mesmer Build but I play Condition Tank and rely on timing shatters well to kill them and focus on outlasting them by reflecting damage with feedback and keeping their bleeds off me with Null Field.

You can see a few fights against theif players in this video one is a perma stealth build and shows how I deal with them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rT9HxcoBE4M

REPLACED WITH THIS GUIDE!!!! = http://samskigaming.com/2013/08/05/my-totally-overpowered-guild-wars-2-mesmer-build/

Welcome to my guide for the Condition Tank Mesmer, due to the fact I believe it is easier to show people things rather than explain in text I have constructed the guide in video format. There are a few slips of the tongue in the commentary but it’s pretty easy to work out what I meant to say

Trait, Skills and Gear set up link – Here

Newest Video = = 1vX Gameplay

Video Guide
Intro and Traits
Weapons
Skills
Runes and Sigils
Consumables
Chaos Armor Chain
Weapon Bugs
Utility Skills and Trait Bugs
Runners and Escape potential

Game Play Videos
1vX Gameplay
WvW Fighting
Soloing a WvW Tower with defenders
Soloing a 3/4 Upgraded Supply Camp
1v6 Combat victory.
Burst Damage

Misc
Chaos Armor Bug

Embolism.8106:

The first iteration of Chaos Armour provided Regeneration or Protection when you’re hit, with no default Protection.

I dont suppose you have a link to official patch notes or anything regarding this ? I had a quick google search but couldent see anything and wouldent mind reading back into it. I noticed on the Wiki it says combo finisher Chaos Armour is the old version but that one doesnt proc protection either.

Also does anyone have anymore information regarding the Blind not proccing ?

I’m actually working on a guide for this type of build right now. Weapon swaps arnt necessary IMO to keep chaos armour up. With just staff I am able to keep chaos armour up for 1:30-1:40.

My build is slightly different to yours but it owns in WvW! I will try get the guide online over the weekend and link you it.

Skyro.3108:

Esplen.3940:

Skyro.3108:

samski.5194:

Had a chance to test it out a little more tonight, Protection just isnt procing at all for me.

Blind seems a bit strange, it maybe working. I tested with and without the trait Blinding Befuddlement and confusion stacks seemed higher with the trait than without but I cant be sure due to the fact the fights are random in the mists.

Why don’t you use the Chilling Darkness trait? It chills on blind so should quite easy to see.

We’re mesmers…

LMAO wow. Yeah I play a Necro too I must’ve got my wires crossed. That’s my excuse anyway lol.

Haha I wish we had that trait though, would make it so much easier to test!

Didnt see this listed in the OP.

Chaos armor not proccing protection or blind from what I can tell.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/support/bugs/Mesmer-Chaos-Armor-Bugged/first#post1587495

Had a chance to test it out a little more tonight, Protection just isnt procing at all for me.

Blind seems a bit strange, it maybe working. I tested with and without the trait Blinding Befuddlement and confusion stacks seemed higher with the trait than without but I cant be sure due to the fact the fights are random in the mists.

Had a chance to test it out a little more tonight, Protection just isnt procing at all for me.

Blind seems a bit strange, it maybe working. I tested with and without the trait Blinding Befuddlement and confusion stacks seemed higher with the trait than without but I cant be sure due to the fact the fights are random in the mists.

Mesmer POV Guides/WvW http://www.youtube.com/user/samskigaming

I know it has never givent Prot on application but the tool tip leads people to beleive that it should have a chance of proccing it when struck.

Ethics.4519:

samski.5194:

That’s a fair point actually, I always presumed it was 1/3 for all boons and all conditions. I will test it further and report back.

Np, one would think it would be even since they don’t say anything. But that wouldn’t explain why you start with prot/blindness and it doesn’t proc again.

But be careful using the staff since that will cause it’s own conditions/boons on it’s bounces.

Yea they are different boons and conditions though going to do a bit more testing on it now.

From a WvW/sPvP point of view Vulnerability does help as it acts as fodder, those spells and traits that remove one condition remove every stack of it so losing 4 stacks of vulnerability is better than losing 10 stacks of bleeds.

That’s a fair point actually, I always presumed it was 1/3 for all boons and all conditions. I will test it further and report back.

Some decent grinding Paths I use….

I dont know your gold per hour from CoF but I make my gold by grinding, here are the paths I use.

Whats you goals OP ? WvW, sPvP, PvE, bit of everything ? Is your playstyle direct damage, conditions or bunker ?

Just done a little testing with GS and staff, it seems they keep around the same bleed stacks on a target even though GS clones attack 3 times, i’m guessing this has something to do with staff clones having a passive chance to inflict bleed anyway but as they also inflict burn to further increase DPS and add Vulnerability for a bit of condition fodder/group support.

For me Staff wins everytime.

Noticed a potential bug today regarding Protection and Blind with Chaos Armor, I have made a thread in the Bug report forum and wouldent mind some other Mesmers checking it out if they have time to get their opinion as I may just be misunderstanding the spells tool tip.

Video of Testing http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_zUWZIyOL4&feature=youtu.be

Bug Report Thread https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/support/bugs/Mesmer-Chaos-Armor-Bugged

I noticed today that there seems to be an issue with Protection and Blind proccing from the Mesmer’s Chaos Armour, if my understanding of the spell from the tool tip is correct.

I made a video to explain it as it is easier to show the problem then explain it in my opinion.

http://youtu.be/Q_zUWZIyOL4

I play a condition tank type build with staff and rarly see my bleed stacks over 11 with 3 clones out and Superior Sigil of Earth.

As stated Winds of Chaos has a 1/3 chance to apply burning though and with my gear that ticks for ~700 damage.

Same here hope the fix it soon

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I think you just have to experiment, I seem to find different mobs have different DR rates but that could just be bad luck with drops.

Anet seem tight lipped about how it works, I beleive the Wiki says DR resets at 00:00 server time or something but I dont think thats accurate.

In my opinion confusion in WvW is fine, if focusing mainly on confusion and glamour builds for mass WvW you can get half your confusion stacks to last for 10 Seconds. In the condition tank solo build I use it can be used well against burst classes to kill them or buy yourself some breathing space if they stop attacking.

In PvE I think it needs a total rework, I dont really understand why its damage was nerfed to 50% in sPvP but it still has some uses.

Blueday.6953:

That would be awesome, thank you very much.

Here you go mate, little diferent as its been upgraded a bit.

Mogar.9216:

I don’t see how hard can it be. As long as you have the dodge make clone trait that + the shield chaos storm gives taking camp should be pretty easy. When you get in trouble stealth. One trick I use is to pull everything to the scouts. Use line of sight to move scouts toward you. Drop a chaos storm on the cluster. Then dodge make clones none stop and watch them all die.

Standard Glamour builds don’t have the clone on dodge trait and stealth no longer resets NPC agro.

Link your build OP please.

Due to the short duration of confusion it is hard to get 25 stacks if that’s what your getting at.

Blueday.6953:

Mostly because I’m a newb and I don’t know what I would respec to.

Ah right no worries, I will try record a camp flip tomorrow with my prefered spec and upload it to show you the difference. I will link the spec too so you can check it out if you like, it uses almost identical gear as glamour.

I almost exclusively play condition Mesmer and I love it, I play burn/bleed/confusion tank when solo and glamour build in mass WvW.

I will link my build tomorrow as I don’t have time right now, started working on a guide for it too.

In my oppinion its not worth it, I rather just standard gear and run with an omnomberry bar.

I run this route with just the food buff and make around 6g an hour a guildie runs with a full MF set and makes around 6G75S and hour in a group solo he makes about the same so I guess you just have to decide what path you want to go….

With this next run we both make about the same even in a group with him in full MF….

Blueday.6953:

samski.5194:

Made this quickly OP….

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLlieNn8RCo

Hope it helps, Open with Feedback and dont drop your second glamour field until the blind from the first one has taken effect.

omg awesome, thank you very much for this.

No worries mate Just out of curiosity why not respec to a more efficient roaming/solo build then respec back to glamour when your in mass PvP ?

Thats what I do, I have my standard trait spec then when im in a guild group or GvG I swap to glamour as its only ~3s to respec

Had a few more goes now with my standard spec and theres no need to trait focus at all

Pyroatheist.9031:

If you intend on making soloing towers a habit, then modify your build for the occasion by putting 20 into inspiration and traiting focus. As you did notice, the lords are 100% ranged. The traited focus obviously won’t do as much damage in a condition setup like you have, but once you get 2 wardens down (with illusions X as well), you have pretty much 100% uptime on projectile reflects, so you can just afk the fight.

Thanks for the tip, I usually roam then if i see the chance try a tower so I keep the build I have, It can solo towers fine as I said that was only my second try solo against a tower lord and its guards.

Pyroatheist.9031:

You were fighting that tower lord in an absurdly sub-optimal way. You mentioned something about keeping chaos armor up, but you didn’t use a leap combo in chaos storm or feedback ever to get chaos armor. Additionally, you were using a weapon with a bouncing attack, the staff, but you were so far away from the lord that none of the attacks were bouncing, effectively robbing you of massive amounts of might, fury, and double the dps on the lord.

Yea it was only my second time going up solo against a tower lord so I was being careful with range and what have you as I wasnt sure what his attacks were.

I narrate videos after they are recorded, my build is based around keeping chaos armor up as much as possible, roughly when I say it I drop Null Field and staff 2ed out of it to keep it up, when I rewatched it while narrating I must have saw that and said it :p

Technique is improving slowly on getting these guys down solo as its so hard to get in the tower with no support.

Thanks for the feedback though

crewthief.8649:

What are you even arguing about?

People putting words into my mouth…..I never once said it wasnt a bug, I wouldn’t class it as a hugh bug, defiantly not bigger than the stealth bug.

Harbinger.9645:

It’s more centralized around a growing trend of responses that seem to display this attitude. To be fair I don’t see where you explicitly say this, but the implication is that because the bug isn’t affecting your play style it’s not, as you say, a “real issue”.

It affects other people’s play style and it’s obviously a bug, so yes…this is an issue.

It’s because I never explicitly said it and the OP replied to my first post with a fake quote that I never said so I defended myself against his response.

KnattyDreads.1856:

Your argument is flawed and short sighted. And you are clearly fighting scrubs.

Care to point out how its flawed ? In the clip I link they are scrubs, thats one clip…..

Harbinger.9645:

Seems like there are a few people out there that think not wanting to put up with bugs is a negative thing. Why?

If this is aimed at me could you please point out where I said not wanting to put up with a bug is negative ? Read my first post in this thread……I stand by what I said in it.

Clones are not a way to stay hidden amongst them indefinatly. Anyone who is not a scrub in WvW wouldn’t have to look at your clones to check for weapons as they will quickly pick up on the real mesmer.

So I stand by my closing statement that it caused no real issue.

BlueprintLFE.2358:

Just because you are fighting scrubs that can’t tell whether someone or something has a weapon equipped doesn’t mean the rest of us are, and it also doesn’t mean that the rest of us aren’t having issues with our core mechanic being bugged. Just because you say you are fine.

Could you please clarify what evidence you have that I’m fighting scrubs ?

I believe the Mesmer core mechanic to be shatters…….could you please clarify how this bug effects this ?

I would suspect from the lack of attention that both of your threads are getting from the Mesmer community that most Mesmers, not just myself are managing fine with this bug……perhaps your struggle is a learn to play issue and you are trying to blame on a bug due to the fact you find this fact hard to believe ?

Esplen.3940:

Your build is missing 5 traits, I’m assuming that’s for Dueling to get Deceptive Evasion (clone on dodge)?

Sorry about that, yep the extra 5 go into Deceptive Evasion

Made this quickly OP….

Hope it helps, Open with Feedback and dont drop your second glamour field until the blind from the first one has taken effect.

OP What confusion build do you refer to ? Glamour or something else ?

Stiv.1820:

It’s already too easy to identify the real mesmer.

I dont think clones are meant to be a way for you to hide indefinatly, just a way to cause a little havoc, alot of people in WvW wont be checking for weapons in the hands of clones anyway so as far as i’m concerned its just a graphical bug that’s causing no real issue.

You can see people fighting me and still attacking my clones here…..

http://youtu.be/RhGe_BtHDX0?t=2m55s

jportell.2197:

Seriously? Ugh So what would be the point of using a staff clone now?

To cause conditions and boons ? They dont spawn with weapons but they still attack as normal as seen here…..

http://youtu.be/RhGe_BtHDX0?t=2m55s

Had a few more tries to try and work out the pulling mechanics for the tower lord and its guards.

Thanks for the 1vX fights at Briar on BB BL tonight BB. Cant believe you stole my tower