I hope the devs get a pair of glasses and start watching what is happening in the game, Cuz Apparently They Are Blind.
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If you dont use cleanses\resist up skills its just ur problem.
Condi thief can stay at the same place where condi mesm are due to perma dodges.
In PVE its easy to keep ur energy above 50% so dnt worry about such things)
Dunno i like how it is) and its visible only when ur facets are up.
Its cool but only if yu play heal rev) bcs Rev has great heal modificators) in all other builds its not needed)
Defending resistance defends one class. So it will not ruin WvW it will prevent warrior condition immunity.
First of all on wvw not War is the source of Resistance))) so if anet nerfs Resist as TS wants then we will se at WvW conditrains and this is not healthy for wvw. In 5v5 its easier to deal with condis.
Why no one is mentioning scrappers? these things are nigh immortal…
Dunno Scrappers are now more easier targets then they was before patch.
Bad idea with such Resist WvW will be ruined yes we have other game modes not only spvp) Condi dmg is better in comparission to direct bcs if you stun power build user u get 0 dmg, but if you stun condi user condis will still do dmg so thats why Resist>Protection.
Tell me you haven’t experienced this…
Red and Blue are neck and neck down the home stretch and hold one point a piece; the other is unclaimed and/or contested.
One of the NPC monsters spawn. You hustle your way over while the enemies are distracted with the rest of your team. Realizing victory will be assured if you kill the beast granting the 25 points, you pop all of your cool downs in an attempt to burn him as fast as possible. You’ve got 91% of the damage. This is it.. you can taste those 1500+ match points for the W…
But wait…
An enemy waltzes in at the last second, hits him once, and steals the kill and your 25 points. You lose the game 515 to 494…Just looking for some opinions here. Should the kill & points be granted to whichever team does the majority of the damage to the beast? Why or why not.
tl/dr: Should Chieftain & Svanir kills/points be awarded to the team dealing the most damage to the NPC beast, or should they be awarded to the team who manages the killing blow?
Stealing mobs is a part of tactic and its a big mistake to go solo and pop up all cd on start of kill mob =\
AOE condi spam is what is keeping the glass cannon builds down.
Only mesmers are prob with their non stop condi application =\
Rev would be good if basic bugs would get fixed. Try to fight a mesmer with sword: PS will hit envoirmental walls and flag poles, maybe one projectile will hit an illusion. Same with UA, youre like if you hit once.
How much enviroment that could be hit do u have at spvp?)
All of it
And I wouldn’t be a bit surprised if they threw in some ambient critters to attract those Precision Strike hits too in the near future.
Just use it right and there want be any probs.
Hard is every build condi build with good condi aplications.
Hi there,
Thief main picking up Rev for a bit more contribution in my havoc group.
I’m curious: What classes can’t I generally out-chase? What classes can’t I outrun?Meta-build seems to be Assassin/Dragon Sw/Sh + Staff for reference.
Another meta meat for condis)
Rev would be good if basic bugs would get fixed. Try to fight a mesmer with sword: PS will hit envoirmental walls and flag poles, maybe one projectile will hit an illusion. Same with UA, youre like if you hit once.
How much enviroment that could be hit do u have at spvp?)
condi dmg in pvp is just for trolling but when it becomes the meta build it means theres a huge problem with whats anet doing , most non condi classes are useless in pvp now after the nerfs and changes last week such as revenant its a noob class and does no dps now after the nerf it got , so can someone tell me why everything that isnt condi sucks right now ?
Rev has no DMG? Really? Man mb we play different game?
Power rev doesn’t (any more) due to the stuck bug with UA screwing you more than helping you, and the ~50% nerf to damage with normalized weapons with Precision Strike.
Condi rev is even better than ever now though.
Thats why i kill ppl)
condi dmg in pvp is just for trolling but when it becomes the meta build it means theres a huge problem with whats anet doing , most non condi classes are useless in pvp now after the nerfs and changes last week such as revenant its a noob class and does no dps now after the nerf it got , so can someone tell me why everything that isnt condi sucks right now ?
Rev has no DMG? Really? Man mb we play different game?
You have elite spec at sPVP by default and if you are PVPer then go WvW and farm them there ive did so 1 day 250 HP ^^ GL
Well in sPvP players get alot of very nice rewards and such. With the absolutely minimal effort, just for showing up in sPvP. So he don’t even want to put any effort towards earning Hero Points as well.
Me personally got 7 out of my 9 elite specs. from HoT land can go from 0 to 250 in less then 3 hours per a toon, and if you bring a friend or two along under a hour and 30 minutes.
If you don’t want to WvW or PvE what do you want the hero points for anyways? I smell a successful bait thread at work here. WvW before hero points was account wide could take upto 10 to 20 hours per a character.
If you want hero points just for showing up in sPvP. Fine you can have them only if I can get a legendary back piece for just doing WvW, which requires much much more work and effort to progress through the reward tracks then in sPvP. It’s only fair right?
It’s not about being lazy or minimal effort, it’s about playing a game for fun, because its a game.
Not everyone thinks grinding = content and fun.
Hero points can be earned in every aspect of the game except PvP so it’s a fair request to ask for a HP reward track. Not exactly sure how you managed to bring the Ascension into this as that is a skin and not a class mechanic.
It takes no effort to progress WvW, just afk in the keep so that’s a really bad example ontop of the argument of people progressing to level 80 dragon in PvE world that’s also a really bad example because PVP ranks only gives finishers and loot, therefor it’s classified as cosmetic, and not class mechanics.
I personally would not care if someone else got 10 hero points for doing PvP, especially if it was tied to champ titles or reward tracks or even if it was just 1 HP per win.
I dont see any grind in collecting HP dont mess up things. If someone dont like pve\wvw and still wants HP its their problem. Mb i want fractal weapon skins in reward track, I simply go and farm fractals yeah its not so fun for me but if I want some skins I know dat I need some farm to do.
I didn’t realise fractal weapons came with extra skills? I thought they were just cosmetic?
You didnt realise what I said, Im talking dat as it is now ppl trying all content bcs they want smtng but if we could get every skin\weapon\backpiece\hp\etc in every mode pvp\wvw\pve\fractals then player base will be separated in those groups pvp\pve\wvw and then Anet will need to rebalance speed of how fast ppl can achieve what they want.
Thank you for such a positive presence in the Rev community man! It really does make a difference. Your video’s are really great. Keep em comin please!!
Look bro if the class sucked I’d make a TRUMP video telling the world we can make the REV great again…BUT until than…My rev kicks kitten and chews bubble gum…AND IT IS ALL OUT OF BUBBLE GUM…People that cry and whine about this class WANT to be OP…But once it is OP than they laugh and say LOL SO BROKEN….So u cant make them happy…Those people will only be happy once they Find Jesus…
Maybe …. Dunno…We can hope….But jesus is a start
make a LETS MAKE CONDI REV VIABLE AGAIN. unless it’s viable? any1 tested with vipers?
With viper to squishy, with Rabid or Wanderer 50\50 if u got focused its GG in glint\malyx there are not so many escapes, but reworked trait in Coruption is nice) its so cool when necro spam condi u copy 3 of them to his teamates and u are with resist XD
As far as I’m concerned, I like to play staff with Mallyx as a support. Mallyx allows me to transfer friends’ conditions on me, then have a big heal, and I also can cleanse with staff4.
In the meanwhile I can also do a fair amount of damage with AA, and break bars with 5.
Cleanse condi when you have resist?)
Just in case resistance comes too short. I don’t cleanse when resistance is up of course !
Its 5+ sec with 0% boon duration and 0 sec CD only 35% energy so its not a prob in PVE)
You have elite spec at sPVP by default and if you are PVPer then go WvW and farm them there ive did so 1 day 250 HP ^^ GL
Well in sPvP players get alot of very nice rewards and such. With the absolutely minimal effort, just for showing up in sPvP. So he don’t even want to put any effort towards earning Hero Points as well.
Me personally got 7 out of my 9 elite specs. from HoT land can go from 0 to 250 in less then 3 hours per a toon, and if you bring a friend or two along under a hour and 30 minutes.
If you don’t want to WvW or PvE what do you want the hero points for anyways? I smell a successful bait thread at work here. WvW before hero points was account wide could take upto 10 to 20 hours per a character.
If you want hero points just for showing up in sPvP. Fine you can have them only if I can get a legendary back piece for just doing WvW, which requires much much more work and effort to progress through the reward tracks then in sPvP. It’s only fair right?
It’s not about being lazy or minimal effort, it’s about playing a game for fun, because its a game.
Not everyone thinks grinding = content and fun.
Hero points can be earned in every aspect of the game except PvP so it’s a fair request to ask for a HP reward track. Not exactly sure how you managed to bring the Ascension into this as that is a skin and not a class mechanic.
It takes no effort to progress WvW, just afk in the keep so that’s a really bad example ontop of the argument of people progressing to level 80 dragon in PvE world that’s also a really bad example because PVP ranks only gives finishers and loot, therefor it’s classified as cosmetic, and not class mechanics.
I personally would not care if someone else got 10 hero points for doing PvP, especially if it was tied to champ titles or reward tracks or even if it was just 1 HP per win.
I dont see any grind in collecting HP dont mess up things. If someone dont like pve\wvw and still wants HP its their problem. Mb i want fractal weapon skins in reward track, I simply go and farm fractals yeah its not so fun for me but if I want some skins I know dat I need some farm to do.
Balance is awful. Build diversity is awful. Ridiculous changes patch to patch completely removing builds and or classes from the meta. Condition builds still being brain dead and far too rewarding; this is on top of double dipping for offensive or defensive stats vs. power based specs.
You can pretty much roll any class right now other than possibly ele and be incredibly effective. Worst case scenario 7 out of 8 proffs are viable at the highest tier which is not bad at all. Especially when you look at a game like Overwatch, which taking the esports scene by storm, only seeing about 12 out of its 22 professions being regularly picked at the high end of play (~54%). Balance is in a pretty good place in my opinion.
I do like the game, this post was made because i fail to see the reason why the game
refuses to grow despite having a generous prize pool and an easily accessible scene. Talented gamers can pick this game up and likely be playing at the pro league level within a few months given the appropriate circumstances. Conquest is a challenging and engaging game mode when playing 5v5 with comms. Yet here we are.What is going wrong?
Yeah, 1 spec / class is viable. And that spec is either condi or rly substain!
Anet wants you to play condi so you can make mistakes over mistakes and still manage to survive.. Puke
Atm every class has atleast 2 viable specs 1 with elite trait and 1 traditional without elite. So pls dont cry about that there is no variations.
U mean hotjoin or higher tier?
Im talking about ranked bcs i dont see any point to disscuss unranked arenas.
Balance is awful. Build diversity is awful. Ridiculous changes patch to patch completely removing builds and or classes from the meta. Condition builds still being brain dead and far too rewarding; this is on top of double dipping for offensive or defensive stats vs. power based specs.
You can pretty much roll any class right now other than possibly ele and be incredibly effective. Worst case scenario 7 out of 8 proffs are viable at the highest tier which is not bad at all. Especially when you look at a game like Overwatch, which taking the esports scene by storm, only seeing about 12 out of its 22 professions being regularly picked at the high end of play (~54%). Balance is in a pretty good place in my opinion.
I do like the game, this post was made because i fail to see the reason why the game
refuses to grow despite having a generous prize pool and an easily accessible scene. Talented gamers can pick this game up and likely be playing at the pro league level within a few months given the appropriate circumstances. Conquest is a challenging and engaging game mode when playing 5v5 with comms. Yet here we are.What is going wrong?
Yeah, 1 spec / class is viable. And that spec is either condi or rly substain!
Anet wants you to play condi so you can make mistakes over mistakes and still manage to survive.. Puke
Atm every class has atleast 2 viable specs 1 with elite trait and 1 traditional without elite. So pls dont cry about that there is no variations.
I love playing as a healing rev for majority of PvE scenarios and I am disappointed with the amount of healing tablet offers.
Please buff tablet passive healing, facet of light has way better healing per tick than tablet’s 3 seconds passive healing.
Also please increase the amount of healing tablet healing offers, I’d rather be spamming Natural harmony than explosion elite. Also let tablet passively create water fields with no cost
I’m using mixture of magi/clerics/zealot ascend
Rev heal not from regen ticks dat trait even not worth of picking, omg 2-3k of heal on 5 seconds CD and you wanna more? XD #6 heals on others healers heal for 2-3k party members and have ~30 sec CD . Rev is nice healer as it is now all you need is some practice to heal ur team by moving tablet and burst heal for 10-12k around you if needed, i dont mention the cleanse with heal effect. GL in practice.
Use rune of strench if its hard to keep ur HP above 90%
Do we have any official word about UA triggering confusion condition multiple times being intended or a bug?
I don’t see it on “known bug list” and I ’ve asked in another thread and someone replied its intended. Still, its listed here so I thought of asking here as well.
I consider it as bug cause other similiar abilities doesnt proc it multiple times. Confusion by game standard is supposed to proc only on skill activation otherwise skills like hundred blades, rapid fire would proc it multiple times as well. Thats not the case.
https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/ConfusionConfusion is a condition that deals damage each second and additional damage each time the affected target begins to activate a skill.
You do not activate UA multiple times as its not possible due to cd. You press it only once. Wiki considers it to be a bug as well
https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Unrelenting_Assault
Enchanted Daggers + Unrelenting Assault is a great way to heal and deal damage at the same time – except if you have Confusion on you, as every strike of UA triggers the extra damage from the condition.
http://metabattle.com/wiki/Build:Herald_-_Condition_Mallyx
It was from the first day of Rev so just keep an eye on ur condis before press skills)
As far as I’m concerned, I like to play staff with Mallyx as a support. Mallyx allows me to transfer friends’ conditions on me, then have a big heal, and I also can cleanse with staff4.
In the meanwhile I can also do a fair amount of damage with AA, and break bars with 5.
Cleanse condi when you have resist?)
Just for pve staff is nice it do less dmg then sword but it nice so u can use sword\axe+staff use staff and when team needs more dps switch to sword\axe.
Vicious Leceration is not needed bcs you dont use sword and for what you need sinister? Go full viper if you want hybrid dmg. Others are fine if you aim for pve only then dat build can work, but full power zerk will do better in pve just bcs our condis work better on moving targets and hammer is better with power builds.
A solution takes 10 minutes to implement:
- bring celestial back
- unnerf CD trait and lava font for pvp
- unnerf the fire line nerfsInstead of all this useless talk about how broken the class is just revert us back to a meta that worked and provided variety.
And next Thread will be “Delete cele amulets bcs Druids are OP” XD
While we are at it… Should we give PvE / WvW players the ability to level up their PvP rank from 0-80 by grinding out exp? you know so they feel motivated to probably try out pvp.
Granted, levels don’t mean anything. But going off of OP’s example, I’d imagine newbies won’t be intimidated to PvP if everyone was a level 80 Dragon.
Does this 80 lvl on spvp matter?Oo
the burst cd for guardians is 12 secs. you can use ur torch 4 twice every 12 seconds. and u run doom and geomancy sigils. basically running sigils to put other condis on enemy in order to not let the enemy cleanse condis w 1 single cleanse.
I can get resist buff every 3-4 sec on all my team or cleanse them or even convert condis into boons) so ppl dont QQ about condis just l2p bcs a big part of condis could be dodged\cleansed\resisted thair always will be a path to outplay ur enemy.
But it is worse when there is condition class stacking. You can’t cleanse it all.
Can you mitigate all power damage forever from multiple sources?
The thing is if you remove class 1 condi class 2 then applies theirs
If i mitigate power damage from class 1 then class 2 then comes in and does more power damage to me.
This is stupid because power is different than conditions. Conditions have a standardized set of damage all bleeds do the same amount regardless of armor class or anything. Power is class and skill specific. Some skills do little damage other skills do more damage. With most power builds there are only a few Significantly large damage dealing skills. With condition it is often a matter of auto attacking allot or spamming cc/one skill if your ai dont apply the conditions for you. Power varies so it is not an accurate comparison to conditions. You can mitigate a warriors Eviscerate and dodge a whooping 7-10k while ignoring 1.3k a.a though kiting. You cannot stop a scepter necromancer with one skill from a.a with scepter as it is not only ranged but apply its effect in stacking blocking it for 2 seconds means nothing. This is a huge difference. Also notice most condition classes are ranged or have massive amounts of cc making it fairly easy to spam. If all the power builds were ranged and all the condition builds were melee things might be different.
But you forgot about that we have more cleanses then blocks+dodges on every char. I even dont say that condions need time and power not) Necro who will just press #1 jn scepter will melt easily)
The guy is fighning NPC who even cant bring some soft CC? And you are complaining about sustain? Man 1 stun and focus from 2 DD and you are looking at the timer ^^
The thing is if you remove class 1 condi class 2 then applies theirs. By time the team has cycled their condition application you’r out of removal and even if you did remove them your basically taking short condi burst in the interval before removal.
If you look at my post history I’m honest I state what I see is wrong with the game even if it hurts my current build set. I doubt you would call to nerf your builds because unlike me. Your greedy and don’t enjoy winning a challenge.
If we could metigate all dmg sources then we will see threads like “OMG they have too much push\pull need nerf!!!” XD
But it is worse when there is condition class stacking. You can’t cleanse it all.
Lolwhat? As it was said earlier every clas has at least 1 cleans so 10 burn stacks is neutralized by 1 cleanse and same will be every 20-30 sec with all dat combowombo burn burst.
I attribute it to poor balancing of classes. I mean one minute you can pvp on your class and the next you are trash.
Another reason is they’ve REALLY taken the skill out of this game with all the power creep and passives.
The plan is easy. 1. Don’t the pendulum theory to balance your game 2. Bring back skillful play.
And in what spot of PVP in GW2 doesnt need skill?)
The plethora of defensive passives saving people’s kitten because they can’t counter incoming burst.
Look at druids now…Warriors….condi mesmers…..scrappers…..etc
They need to get back to the core of the game
Why then some i can burst down some Wars\Mesmers\Scrappers any other class with all those “save kiten” ? Mb its just matter of skill and nothing more?)
sry serj but any decent mesmer will eat a rev off same skill level^^
So now you talking dat class carry the game not skill?)
I attribute it to poor balancing of classes. I mean one minute you can pvp on your class and the next you are trash.
Another reason is they’ve REALLY taken the skill out of this game with all the power creep and passives.
The plan is easy. 1. Don’t the pendulum theory to balance your game 2. Bring back skillful play.
And in what spot of PVP in GW2 doesnt need skill?)
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please, this is ridiculous. Condi builds are out of controle. You are nerfing power damage but not touching condis. So many ppl are being carried by running condi builds. they are just too strong. Esp Burn dmg is op. my guard is able to stack burn up to over 10k in 3 secs. Confusion should only deal dmg on skill use and overall condi dmg is just too high and to easy to put out. the entire meta is condi.. besides rev maybe.
You where fighting vs 5 Svanirs and lost?) First of all condis could easily be countered power builds is stronger then condis) i can melt with rev\war some1 faster then they lay some condis.
Wtf are you talking about? When you get a heap of conditions on you that means the person just blew half their cooldowns to do it. It’s not instant. The condition build ignorance on these forums is insane. It’s like people think if you’re a condition build you don’t even have to press buttons. You just look at the screen and people die.
I drop 5 stacks confusion, 2 stacks torment, 5 stacks bleed, 6 stacks poison and cripple in less than a second using only one utility. Most of the time that applies before they even see me. The reset for most of that is 20s and that is just the opener.
My Condi Shatter Chrono can apply ridiculous amounts of condi and then reset back so that I have most of my cooldowns reset. It is a continual stream of condi application with hardly any cooldown with a big chunk of the fight completely invisible.
If you don’t think condi is a real problem in small scale, you must either play a very heavy condi removal class, play condi yourself lacking perspective or don’t duel/roam much.
But you drop them just to 1 target as War\Thief yes you melt ur target but its the same as power thief\war can melt their target) even faster id say) Necro\Mesm can do AoE condi but it takes to much time and in open world we can easily outrun\dodge them. And less but not last War\Rev can buff resist to them selves, necro transfer back some condi, ele cleanses, mesm cleanses so every class has acces to some cleanses all you need is just use them correct)
Melt DH by power War
You have elite spec at sPVP by default and if you are PVPer then go WvW and farm them there ive did so 1 day 250 HP ^^ GL
Im palying Rev from CBT and i playing him till now and will be playing as long as i play GW2 for me he is best) Yes there was some nerfs for some skills but all i needed is was just some time to relearn new costs or CD nothing more. About video 1kk dmg is normal if you see he was 90% time fighting enemys out of point so enemy had to chose fight back and dont cap point or go to point but get dmg in their back so i dont see any problems.
P.S. Nice vid.
I dont see a problem with deleting cleric its like when ppl QQ about merc amulet.
You’ve GOT to be kidding me. Clerics has been here since the BEGINNING and NOBODY had a problem with it! It is and always has been the HoT specs, they’re out of control!
What is harder rebalance all supprt build with elite trait lines in them or just delete 1 amullet. For me theres no change at all bcw ive played mender ele so for all those QQ are so funny.
Rev inst good, case closed. Feel free to go home.
i hope your trolling
No, i am totally not trolling. 6cd PS with the way it works is overkill. So is 35 energy PT, reflectable trash Shiro heal, damage nerf to PS&UA and so on. They finally broke this junk class.
Just change class and stop QQ in Rev forum. All i see from your posts is nagative about how Rev is useless and when i go pve\wvw\spvp hes so good at them. So just change class may be Rev is just not ur class think about it.
I dont see a problem with deleting cleric its like when ppl QQ about merc amulet.
So I wanted to put a simple Rev guide with build and a decent explanation to the traits. I feel like this video could have been better but unfortunately time is an issue this week. Please try to watch all 13min of this video. I know it isn’t the most exiting video when it comes to visual effects but it answers most of the questions that my mailbox is filled with. Please note this video was only made because the community I attend too kept asking the same questions. I understand somebody who mains and has been playing REV might not enjoy this video so much. Once the patch drops I will make a new video that will be more advanced and more helpful to people who want to take it a little further. Also in the description you will find 2 roaming videos each showing the build off with the same gear-set and traits.
I hope it helps Enjoy if it does,
~BalougaPODDemolisher amulet isnt good against condis and marauder would be better.
I would love demolisher stats in WvW. Don’t care for dueling, and in large scale fights you have resistance so condi don’t matter.
Omg man he was talking about amulet and thats mean spvp if we talk about WvW marauder or even zerk is nice.
The matchmaker should not allow duplicate classes. It creates very uneven matches and some combinations are almost guaranteed to lose just due to DPS and/or Tankiness imbalance. It would go a long way to balancing things if you couldn’t stack multiple Elementalists or Warriors or couldn’t get stuck with multiple Thieves or Guardians.
Ok i play fresh air ele so from ur words my team will have another DPS and no bunker ok gg.
So I wanted to put a simple Rev guide with build and a decent explanation to the traits. I feel like this video could have been better but unfortunately time is an issue this week. Please try to watch all 13min of this video. I know it isn’t the most exiting video when it comes to visual effects but it answers most of the questions that my mailbox is filled with. Please note this video was only made because the community I attend too kept asking the same questions. I understand somebody who mains and has been playing REV might not enjoy this video so much. Once the patch drops I will make a new video that will be more advanced and more helpful to people who want to take it a little further. Also in the description you will find 2 roaming videos each showing the build off with the same gear-set and traits.
I hope it helps Enjoy if it does,
~BalougaPOD
Demolisher amulet isnt good against condis and marauder would be better.
