Guild Wars 2

Jayne.9251:

snarfrificus.4230:

I then dont know how you build your siege, but it sounds like you guys are failing very hard in it.
We never had that issue before with our opponents that they could destroy it that easily.

This may help you dear:

Garrison: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9DT4wV8k-w
Hill: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IqNW-WyQ_s
Bay: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weP_ulvdC08
SW-Tower: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzGJMPCmcwk
SE-Tower: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1C0cxZwJlv0
NW-Tower: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XmwQIiSKnM
NE-Tower: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3q-xh-u4TEQ

Could be you just haven’t encountered people using it this way.

We have.

playing against servers like sfr and fsp, trust me we have. We just never had this issue while they are trying to do it though. And i have been playing this game since day 1 lol.
After looking those videos, it only happens when you dont have anything inner or you have no scouts. It sounds more like holes in plans and organisation of people. Atleast you always have some guys yoloing and destroying it. Its easier to destroy it then build it lol.

I then dont know how you build your siege, but it sounds like you guys are failing very hard in it.
We never had that issue before with our opponents that they could destroy it that easily.

Jayne.9251:

snarfrificus.4230:

We actually saw the opposite. The stronger server with the 80-blob would drop an ac and use the FoV angle to wipe all inner siege, so they could face-mow the gate down without any resistance from the 6 defenders inside.

But using that requires more time and at the same time if they are just ramming we normally use something called an treb from inside… So it really depends on that part how capable your defenders are.
With how it was we would be easily able to defend against that.

Junkpile.7439:

snarfrificus.4230:

Junkpile.7439:

snarfrificus.4230:

Junkpile.7439:

snarfrificus.4230:

Junkpile its really not true, sfr has by any means way more guys then fsp and deso, fsp also has way more then deso.
With our coverage we just had guys keeping themselves awake this week for 18 hours a day!
So you can blame it on the so called numbers, but at the same time having max 10 guys on at those times, cause they are what people call dedicating is something different than actually having uber blobs and being overstacked, like sfr always is.
But they got crushed this week, by their own ppt game and strategy and they blame our overstacking LOL!

We can’t have more players. If we would have we would win because desolation mantra is that wvw is all about coverage.

If you guys ragequit and go to EOTM its not our fault lol, like this morning you guys have like 3 times our numbers running and we couldnt get higher then max 20 people.
Yes youg uys have more people, unless they are busy at eotm cause they keep wiping!

I don’t get what you trying to say. You have spammed 2 years that coverage is everything and now it suddenly isn’t.

ever heared of having 2 groups of each 5 guys taking stuff? thats how we play if we have way to less numbers. So in a sense i dont get what you are saying, sfr is just blobbing up and when people are fighting they cap stuff. Coverage is everything in WvW, but with the amount of people sfr has they should be easily able to have an 24/7 non stop queued up blob on every map, but no they lost a couple of fights and they ragequit.

We often cap stuff with 3 man in EotM and bosses are much harder there. Why you need 5 man in normal wvw?

ofc not everybody has the 15 supply thing, that is the main reason why 5 are needed! the eotm standard farmers ofc have most of the time an way higher WvW level then those in normal WvW, due to pve farming.

Junkpile.7439:

snarfrificus.4230:

Junkpile.7439:

snarfrificus.4230:

Junkpile its really not true, sfr has by any means way more guys then fsp and deso, fsp also has way more then deso.
With our coverage we just had guys keeping themselves awake this week for 18 hours a day!
So you can blame it on the so called numbers, but at the same time having max 10 guys on at those times, cause they are what people call dedicating is something different than actually having uber blobs and being overstacked, like sfr always is.
But they got crushed this week, by their own ppt game and strategy and they blame our overstacking LOL!

We can’t have more players. If we would have we would win because desolation mantra is that wvw is all about coverage.

If you guys ragequit and go to EOTM its not our fault lol, like this morning you guys have like 3 times our numbers running and we couldnt get higher then max 20 people.
Yes youg uys have more people, unless they are busy at eotm cause they keep wiping!

I don’t get what you trying to say. You have spammed 2 years that coverage is everything and now it suddenly isn’t.

ever heared of having 2 groups of each 5 guys taking stuff? thats how we play if we have way to less numbers. So in a sense i dont get what you are saying, sfr is just blobbing up and when people are fighting they cap stuff. Coverage is everything in WvW, but with the amount of people sfr has they should be easily able to have an 24/7 non stop queued up blob on every map, but no they lost a couple of fights and they ragequit.

Junkpile.7439:

snarfrificus.4230:

Junkpile its really not true, sfr has by any means way more guys then fsp and deso, fsp also has way more then deso.
With our coverage we just had guys keeping themselves awake this week for 18 hours a day!
So you can blame it on the so called numbers, but at the same time having max 10 guys on at those times, cause they are what people call dedicating is something different than actually having uber blobs and being overstacked, like sfr always is.
But they got crushed this week, by their own ppt game and strategy and they blame our overstacking LOL!

We can’t have more players. If we would have we would win because desolation mantra is that wvw is all about coverage.

If you guys ragequit and go to EOTM its not our fault lol, like this morning you guys have like 3 times our numbers running and we couldnt get higher then max 20 people.
Yes youg uys have more people, unless they are busy at eotm cause they keep wiping!

Junkpile its really not true, sfr has by any means way more guys then fsp and deso, fsp also has way more then deso.
With our coverage we just had guys keeping themselves awake this week for 18 hours a day!
So you can blame it on the so called numbers, but at the same time having max 10 guys on at those times, cause they are what people call dedicating is something different than actually having uber blobs and being overstacked, like sfr always is.
But they got crushed this week, by their own ppt game and strategy and they blame our overstacking LOL!

strange part is deso is not full, other servers in gold have way more active people daily. For us most of the people are really dedicated and thats it and after this week it seems that a lot less people will play on deso! if we are still full by next week, then this is really nonsence!

To win from an blob in WvW, you need to have atleast these things.
1st: 20 people vs 60 is possible to win, but a lot of training with your guild is needed + the right classes needs to be played. same for 25 or 30 vs 70.
2nd: Play with the idea like, if we get 1 of them dead, 5 of us will res up.
This means that if you see somebody down, kill it instantly even the commander will tell the people to focus the downed directly. This will save you in most battles, cause the battle standard can be very very slow at times so also try to keep that in mind.
Nowadays things like reflect is also very important and like always try to focus their backline down first!

I think the biggest chance how they do this is, checking MU’s and if one is winning pure for profits out of nowhere making the second placed one or the first placed one not full, so that bandwagoners can join that server.
That will win tons of profit for Anet

Its totally strange, i am on deso and we are so called full, while compared to us fsp and sfr have overall seen double our numbers. Unless we have tons of fake accounts playing every day by standing afk and reporting to their server, i doubt that we are actually full. Unless they also count EOTM wich is more pve then WvW.

well we really have an low population issue, i mean small group is 10 guys and those same 10 guys are also on the evening online. We only very sometimes have queues and then home and eb nowhere else. Not just that we barely have any blob running anywhere during the day. Yeah some days are the exception but thats it. Then how the hell are we full? every day different people?

With the new calculations, is Anet high?
I mean fsp has double the numbers deso has and they are high and deso is full?
You guys counting PVE EOTM with it or something?
Deso barely has numbers 24/7 compared to other gold servers, we have small groups running in mornings and nights but overall we have way less numbers then most gold servers.
These new calculations are badly made!

but it seems i just cannot stop hitting them, the ranger is behind that bear and he just lemme focus the bear non stop, well maybe in the future i will BEAR in mind that i need to go after the ranger if he lets me, but he keeps sending me the bear though while walking away!

Guys this issue has been spoken before, but the bearbow is horrifying OP, i mean i cannot kill the bear! wth is it with that, the bear keeps on living slapping me in the face and saying drop down and dont get up!
Plz nerf this insane being, i cannot BEAR with it anymore.
The unBearing moments i keep on getting agains that class and its not if i can dodge the bear it pulls me to him and then he just slaps me.

Unless you guys actually try yourselves to make the PvE situation an PvP situation, instead of seeing everything with an event as pve, you can also think like this i a great chance to fight my opponents!

Sorry but i like it and i am hardcore WvW, it gives more potential if you actually tried and search more around and also get yourself updated on the latest stuff that they are bringing in, this will bring up a lot more.
If you are also part of an community i can only say talk with your community to keep yourself focused on fighting on that map, there are tons of good fighting spots everywhere on the map.
It also shows they are quite anti blobbing with it and they really tried that out!

I havent been invited but for some reason still able to play.
I was very very happy what i could see and do, i see the what other people call as PvE parts as part also of the PvP to challenge people to do something.
I mean at the end of the day we the people make from the map what we want to, if there are people that are willing to make an eotm from it keep farming them till they qq quit and learn how to play.

Second of all i have heared stories about more mobile siege( wich can be helping out with the size of the map) And that many more stuff will be coming (remember guys Anet made it like this so that there will be fights EVERYWHERE ON THE MAP) it means that servers need to organise better (and probably the lower ones will die, this is why they did this move last tuesday so that it would balance out more).

Looking at what Anet is planning and the bigger picture of it, they are really trying it for us and i am happy how hard they are trying (also with guild halls). There are some bugs here and there like the enemy siegerazor troll at spawn trying to swing at people (very funny XD).

I did not have the time to litterly try to search out every corner but i can say overall job well done.
In sense of the bigger picture (more siege types, more speed, a lot of roamer friendly things to do on the map and a lot of corners for guilds to kill of blobs to force blobs to split up and form smaller groups to fight on different parts of the map, it shows more strategical promise).
If people are using their brains instead of the qq lets go easy ride.

Something else that also made me happy was the possibility of an weekly reward and i hope it is for staying, some levels up but the quality of the loot gets being higher if your server actually wins the match up. This forces alliances in servers to be made and people actually trying for an good exotic or maybe even ascended stuff to get).

I hope though that you guys will be giving scouts more rewarding stuff or having any idea of an reward. But overall this is actually a very good change.

Shadow.3475:

Took a look at Camelot Unchained and they have alot off work Before it wil be anything, now it looked like WOW light from 2003.

It will still need a lot of work indeed, but the first beta will be in august. It will come out next year, when it comes out WvW on gw2 will die out pretty quickly, i have heared an insane amount of people going to move to that game. And even if a majority plays PvE, the most stable people are that of WvW if you lose that group you will lose a lot of money.
The only way for Anet to keep the people playing is or make it purely casual like EOTM, but then communities will all die out pretty quickly.
Or make it a bit more hardcore, so that all the groups will stay and you will even see more dynamic and better gameplay from the people that also brings up a better selling card.
Really having a team focussed for WvW and also change it in such a way that WvW works on its own even with their own lobby like PvP. For any introductions for new players and possible help with the current meta’s on them to.
Guild halls will become a perfect spot also for guilds to do a lot it will be fixing a lot of problems (thanks Anet for that one everyone is waiting in full hype for that).

I think that they know that they will lose all WvW players when camelot unchained will be coming out and they also know that they cannot fix that problem. They will lose at the end of the day unless they really come up with something good that let us stay here instead of going to play camelot unchained (and yes one of the betas will be coming in august).

ofc i understand it, i aint a complete noob lol, i bought HoT specially cause of the role that i have in my community and the possible WvW meta changes that you will need to adapt as an player. But i play enough to atleast get an invite, i mean people that were playing half the time i do got an invite on my server (and a hell lot of them) but i never get an invite for things like these lol.
Just my bad luck and i thought that stress tests are also kinda beta testing, but the litteral use of words i see applies here. I always dislike it when people go litteral about stuff, wars start with those kind of people.

yeah thats my problem i play every single day, people that got invited around me play less then i do, this is quite strange it seems its just random and i keep missing it.

well this ‘fix’ will destroy WvW, there is also an big difference of quality between high and lower tiers. Not just that if an guild wants to play in an higher server for another kind of experience this now will kill it.
Not just that, guilds that want to go for an higher server rather would quit the game and play something else, cause they cannot get anymore new experiences cause its all full.
This may be the start of the destruction of WvW.

i am also in a very active one and i am also active every day…
Not just that i kinda played WvW since the start of the game…, but ok then i know about that lol, to bad that i keep missing it.

Howdie all,

I thought i would be invited for all stress testing once i bought the HoT expansion, but now people around me that didnt bought it got an invite, while i didnt got anything ?

I also support this, even if its still just a game.
We meet people here and make new friends and it still hurts a hell lot if we lose them.
A way to remember them and honor them should be implemented into the game.
Guys we can indeed go on fighting and raging on the forums, but this is something that above anything else should go FIRST in the expansion and the guild halls.

Howdie all,

i can tell you guys that Anet did not forgot WvW and are indeed trying to bring up improvements, their problem is though wich comes from the higher levels in Anets company, PvE is mostly played and second is PvP, WvW comes last so they dont see it as important they only see numbers.
They still know though that without WvW this game will die very quickly, cause of the amount of time and enthousiasm the communities are still playing at, so they give small things once every while cause the WvW communities are barely quitting even if they get neglected a lot.
So its easy money for Anet, at the same time most people play PvE (I DONT, only when i am really in need of dosh in game cause WvW gives me nothing and i find it HORRIBLE to play PVE) wich is also quite the easy money.
In a sense if people want change letting WvW die out is the best option, then they are forced to do stuff to bring more changes.
I need to say though also at Anets defense they are trying to make WvW more being part of an guild or community or alliance focused then before after the expansion. Wich ofc very very good news for a lot of people!

I love the class already,
But i have noticed some severe weaknesses.
No escapes or invul moves, i am forced to play it ranged and supportive (stabs, healing, projectile stopping). And in more pvp type of fights i can do way more with combo’s but most people though kinda can 1 hit me like mesmers while i am having 3 k armor (their shatter).

But ofc we dont know what the elite tree will be + the other weapons they are able to carry.
But maybe from the WvW point of view and to be able to make more different kind of builds with it, maybe an idea to give some form of invul or some escapes.

Like i said though, i dont know what the other parts are that is still to come and i am very curious ^^.

I love the fact that it can do a lot of stuff, but they are focused, like you want to go more dmg demon. You want to do more healing centaur, you want to be tanky and stabs go dwarf.

Thnx for the read Anet ^^ and i hope you guys can use my feedback.

i have heared of situations on certain servers that have 50 to 60 on ts 15 on tag…

http://i.imgur.com/XY0dg3q.jpg

yes be very afraid of bearbows and underwater sharks!

i think more servers have that problem xD.

pick sfr if you want to win through full ppt
pick fsp if you want to choose the perfect boy in class that has no true growth potential
pick deso if you want to do a lot of hard work, cause there is not much left of that community
pick gandara for if you really love fighting
pick jade sea if you want mono blobbing all the maps
pick piken if you want to go full hardcore.

this is why i totally love it xD!

Well i also noticed the ranged cause of the patch really seems WAY to op now lol, melee cant even get close anymore people now just go full pew pew to win.
I mean necros with ppt gear doing 30 k within a couple of seconds and i know a couple of more examples.
So maybe some tweaks can fix things up ^^.

Anet is pulling a sega with this one, watch out for what it can do.

yeah, i am a good fan of gw2 too, but 45 euros? I dont know who the money maker is behind you guys, but please fire that person.
20 Euro is decent for an expansion and not a total new game, unless you guys are giving us a TOTAL NEW GAME.

Guys i dont get it, first everyone qqs about other match ups and now they qq about being overpowered. Are you people never happy?
If your server gets overpowered, try to work together with the other server as part of the strategy to take the strongest one down.

The OP of this post should be happy he is not hunted down by an OP bearbow they instantly kill everything on site and you cannot kill the bear it has to much OP it needs a nerf.

Kasteros.9847:

snarfrificus.4230:

well if you have 3 rangers and they focus fire on an commander (they can easily do that) its always insta win against blobs etc. the commander keeps needing to heal up and restack his people cause of the OP melt fest.

Unless comm just charge backline and wipe rangers out and if group is organised they have some fp / casters to take care of rangers / papers focusing comm. Same goes for comm himself, if he is skilled it would be easy for him to avoid rf. But if he is low, ktrain comm with ktrain blob he would die easly. Also dunno how at ur server but at mine if comm get focused he give lead to someone else who can and is at ts3. Much better deal for 3 rangers is to find casters and focus them( 2k hit from 1600 range x3 is 6k dmg every 1 sec, papers run around 18-22k so they will melt. I’m not even mentioning rf.). And here comes what i wrote earlier, ranger is good for fp, but bad for playing in sychro with rest of group( mt and backline, except saving them).

calculations look good on paper and paper only, i have seen enough of these occasions when it happens and when the organised ranger group just nuke the hell out of the opponents commander. and they have a waterfield with a pretty low CD, rangers are also good for as it seems in focus parties. WvW is more then just group buffing everyone, it depends what you like to play.

well if you have 3 rangers and they focus fire on an commander (they can easily do that) its always insta win against blobs etc. the commander keeps needing to heal up and restack his people cause of the OP melt fest.

Well i am one of those players that loves WvW a lot, lately not as playing that much cause of an burn out for a bit with the game. I need to say though, if they want a good review and opinion about the new maps and possibilities with it, they should contact communities from different servers, from both low and high tier in NA and EU.

bearbow is OP, people keep fighting the bear and ignore you, bear cannot die = you win.

I have been playing a lot now with the new changes, we can still go very deep with the stability nerfed and i dont mean that we are blobbing, we cannot win extremely outnumbered fights, but are still able to win fights if we are in lesser numbers by timing stuff better.
Another thing we are using against the many ranged spamming is having REFLECT ready on some of our raiders or if open tagging pugs.
This still helps out a lot more then people think and our melees can just still run right through it like they normally did. In my eyes the stab thing is no problem at all.
and yes with 30 guys you can still win from 60, just play it smart and play as an team. (all on ts though can help a lot or else you cant win against those numbers ofc ^^ ).

KEEP BOB OUT OF THIS!!! he has done nothing wrong xD. i blame alice for qqing about the fact that bob qqes. This is how the game goes.

Well in another sense its good to see that there are way more people playing WvW then a lot of people have thought before. And this may also be a good reflection to the future for the expansion, that it needs to be able that more people are going to play it then that are playing now, wich means that even the silver league is probably going to be quite stacked up with WvW players.

If it improves Stephen i think like 95% of the people will be happy if it takes 10 minutes or a bit longer to reconnect and get it fixed. If there are people complaining and even if you may not say it (then i will), some people are just a bunch of lemons, that are sour and bitter and always qqing, the worst of gamers.
Think about the others that are playing and if WvW even improves with it the amount of people that left the game and coming back. You are doing a great job then ^^ .

I hope this motivates you also a bit :P.

WvW works with servers (like desolation sfr and stuff), but does it also connect to people outside it like with pve? So that they are able to always connect to WvW, i dont know if it helps but maybe keeping the megaserver, serverless and the servers only for WvW, can hopefully also help a bit ?

Thnx again Stephen for all of your hard work till now ^^ .

If you are running with deso again plz give me a shout too Stephen to show you around ^^ .

suprNovae.5410:

Just a random thought but have you ever considered the stability change as a part of the problem? Since stability never caused real big calculations in the past it is now working with stacks. So more calculations have to be made by the server.

Just would like to know you opinion about that because in large scale fights it can make a huge difference.

I had the same idea indeed.

hmm in a sense then, instead of letting those packets arive and when people dc, maybe just directly letting them dc and creating a special spot in the possible queue in WvW for those dced so that its way more easily for them to come back. And maybe this then will create way less stress on the servers?