These guys opening these threads must be so desperate afraid of bg getting 3rd/4th place even worst, after all the stacked server effort they did. But lets be honest, does bg really think they will stack and have so much coverage to easily win the season and tc/jq would just watch it? They’r more then right to work together and have chances to win the season, well played.
Tears and more tears, we can almost swim here this week.
The system is working as intended, with the weaker servers working together to take out the top server. BG’s getting better, harder fights and more challenges out of it, which I imagine translates as more fun for their core WvWer’s. 2v1 isn’t unfair, the only situation I’d see it as “unfair” is when it’s the top server working with the second top server to shut down the weakest server… but even then, it’s “blagh” but not enough to go make forum posts QQing about the whole thing. Just makes you want to fight back harder.
If BG is as great as they proclaim, then they’ll stick around, grit their teeth, fight through it and not give up, whine, or use unsavory means (spies, siege trolls, etc…). But if when things don’t go BG’s way and the resort is to whine, complain, use unsavory means… well, they simply aren’t that great of a server and don’t deserve that top spot, especially when their stacking is generally better than everyone else’s.
The fights are good, yes.
However, let’s follow this logic. So BG doesn’t give up and continues to be spawn camped in all three BL’s including EB. JQ and TC do not touch each others stuff at all. Example, just on JQ BL today, TC had our home tower while JQ had hills, if BG even came out and tried to wipe TC, TC runs in tower and immediately JQ comes to finish us off. Literally, no chance to hold any tower/keep anywhere.
Btw, map politics (what was happening in week 1) is not the same as organized 2v1. Map politics = BGBL, BG having to fight TC from taking NE tower, so JQ hits NW tower. That is map politics and working as intended. The situation we have now as described above is not map politics, but just plain unsportsmanlike.
Now, who’s to say JQ/TC doesn’t just team up again when BG pulls ahead in any week after this? Is that still fair? Would it still be fair if it was happening to your server? (again map politics is not the same as organized 2v1).
Also, to dispel some nonsense rebuttals on how “you deserved this:”
- Bought guilds for seasons = Bought as in help with transfer costs after they asked to move over? (yes they asked). Should I note how many guilds were “bought” by JQ and TC before seasons begun? Let’s just say they both got WAY more guilds than BG received. That’s a fact. Most of our players were already on BG but came out of their breaks for the season.
- Stacked server? JQ has equal (even more in certain time zones) coverage as BG. TC is really the only server that can complain since their only strong off hour coverage is EU.Now, are there some bad apples on BG? Yes. Would you like me to name a few bad apples on everyone else’s server?
This organized 2v1 is doing nothing but ruining the season. You are taking a tournament that is suppose to be about who is the number 1 server, and instead turning it into a rigged horse race. Who can form alliances with what servers.
Do you really want to set the precedence going forward to always 2v1 the top server to the point where they cannot even own a tower? Because that is where this is headed. Why would anyone want to be the top server then? Should this season even be taken seriously any more since the matches will no longer be fair?
Why not just play the game as intended? You know, if it’s red it’s dead. Does that mean you shouldn’t focus the stronger server? No, if you’re TC and you see JQ and BG fighting then you should probably hit BG. I am not arguing against that. That’s fair game.
Gez so many words to describe only one: tears.
3. don’t tell us how good your blob is. it’s a joke! i have not seen one BG guild or mini blob this season fight us when we have equal numbers. (look at your own posted video’s.)
You’re right, we had less numbers
Have you ever thought about upgrading your pc? The graphics looks bizarre.
Ever considered that it’s the compression of the video that does that? Thanks for watching though
Yea if you record a video on high settings it shows on low after. I did watched it, for 10sec.
3. don’t tell us how good your blob is. it’s a joke! i have not seen one BG guild or mini blob this season fight us when we have equal numbers. (look at your own posted video’s.)
You’re right, we had less numbers
Have you ever thought about upgrading your pc? The graphics looks bizarre.
You failed to understand that all that was made or not yet implemented for a reason. You bought a game nearly 2 years ago and they didn’t charge you a penny since then even yet making constant updates and trying to make wvw better for the community.
Also good luck finding a game better or even close to what gw2 is.
So long and nothing really fixable when big blobs face each other, not that they are not trying to and I am sure they are. But maybe it’s impossible to actually do it when wvw becomes a big party.
Sometimes I wonder if any other mmo developer company with gw2 on their hands can do much as anet does. I am glad to play 90% of the times this great pvp game with no lag issues.
I think the solution would be create 1-2 more borderlands or even more if necessary, then decrease the cap limit. That way could fix the lag and performance issues as the blobs wouldn’t be that big.
It’s a good suggestion and I am not disagreeing with you, but you asked I just answered the question, and a tip to loot bags as you run back and that works a lot as not all the time the fights are far and/or inside smc/keeps/towers
Again warriors ARE NOT the only class that can instant revive. Necros, Guardians, and Eles also have a instant revive ability that they can spam. We can stop the warriors no problem, but other classes can revive from 900 range or more! The attacking force already has to worry about clearing the cap circle, Keeping the lord dead, stopping enemies from entering multiple directions, and surviving the pressure being applied to them. It shouldn’t be allowed to instantly revive the lord 40 times to defend a fortification. The game is just rewarding bad defense at that point.
And again, no one says warriors alone are your problem. I am aware there are many classes that are able to rez the lord. BUT again, I don’t see this as the problem, if you read my early post I said quite clearly the fault is your for not killing the players. The game isn’t awarding bad offense, that seems to be the problem your having here. In my experience we don’t have problems with constant rezing of the lord unless we are trying to take a fully upgraded garrison or other structure with a waypoint. If this is the case those structures should be harder to take.
But wow, I can’t keep repeating myself like this.
Cheers, I am out.
What? Who else can rez npcs from defeated state other then warriors?
Anyway here’s a quote from Devon months ago about this “Using banners to rez is absolutely okay with us. That said, we have looked into and will continue to look into ways to make it a little less zany. But the reality is, you should kill the warriors.”
Because you are dead.
Btw if you wp back right away the next bags from the next enemies you killed will pop on your feet so you can loot on your way back.
I just cannot understand one thing.
“This patch will make legendaries a lot more common”
And so what ? It still will be one one account. You can have nine thousands of twilight but you can use only one on one character at the same time. This change not gonna make that more people will have legendary skin. It still gonna be account bound. Players who dont have legendary still have to craft / buy them. So whats the problem ? Of course you can copy this skin for other characters but still, you can play only on one character at the time so the amount of players with legend skins will be the same.
Except lots of dual incinerators, bolts, quips and moots.
As the Eternity is the only legendary that could cause this problem, they might change it to account bound when you craft it and no more Eternity on TP. It will be craftable only my guess.
You right, I should have savaged a Legendary Weapon to know what it gives me before ask. I am sorry.
Good job being sarcastic but that is not the point, any person that has been playing long enough and can actually use their brain would know salvaging doesn’t give you much no matter what the rarity of the item is.
You right again, because salvaging a purple item(Legendary) is very common to see what happens. Also if you look at http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Salvage you can definitely see on the bottom Salvaging results/By item quality there’s Fine, Rare, Exotic and Legendary right?
Why not? It doesn’t cost me anything then a couple minutes
And if you want to someone to stop trying this happen you shouldn’t be posting here to bumps it. Also it does give me some answers like I didn’t know savaging them doesn’t give me anything worthy.
im not trying to stop you or anything im just saying it won’t happen, as you already have a legendary you should have been in the game long enough to know almost everything. like how salvaging works, but i guess that’s not the case
You right, I should have salvaged a Legendary Weapon to know what it gives me before ask. I am sorry.
If that’s not happening is anyway to take anything back from an Legendary Weapon that you are not using anymore and can’t use on any other character of yours after april feature pack?
What happens if I savage it? Do I get the precursor back or something?
No, you don’t. you can get 1 – 2 pcs ori ore though…
seriously though stop trying to make this happen, It won’t
Why not? It doesn’t cost me anything then a couple minutes
And if you want to someone to stop trying this happen you shouldn’t be posting here to bumps it. Also it does give me some answers like I didn’t know savaging them doesn’t give me anything worthy.
If that’s not happening is anyway to take anything back from an Legendary Weapon that you are not using anymore and can’t use on any other character of yours after april feature pack?
What happens if I savage it? Do I get the precursor back or something?
As the legendary Weapons is going to be Account Bound with April Feature Pack, can you please make them unbound as well?
Those that have an Legendary Weapon on one character can’t use them on another because some classes can’t use that weapon. Like on this case, I have The Dreamer on my thief but I don’t play the class anymore and can’t use the short-bow on my warrior(main character now). So that way we can trade them and make it much easier to get a Legendary for that specific class that you want to play it.
If that’s the way it’s going to be ignore me, and Thank You!!
At some point you played your Thief, made The Dreamer for it and played it. Why in the world should you be able to unbind it and sell it now?
I’m not asking to be able to unbind an Legendary Weapon at any point. I’ts just an idea to make them unbound(one-time thing) when the pack comes out so players can make a better decision on what Legendary Weapons you want to have based on what class you really want to play, so you can actually use them as well.
So you are asking to unbound it, but you are not, so you can trade it in for something else based on the profession you want to play at the time?
yesI’m thinking that when you made your Dreamer you really wanted to play your Thief, no?
yesHow many do overs do you want?
one time, when the pack comes out.Sorry, it should not work that way.
clearly you are not on the same boat as I am.Just be happy, your Dreamer will be account bound soon so you can use it on other alts you feel like playing at the moment or when you change your mind again.
I know, but I feel playing the warrior class witch I cannot use the Legendary Weapon short-bow that I have as I already said.Sorry for you luck. It won’t happen.
fortunately it’s up to anet to decide it.
Next time you make a legendary make sure it is for a profession you want to play.
I did, a made a Legendary Weapon for my thief that I wanted to play with(most pve). But now I want to play warrior(most wvw), things change. And that’s why I made this thread in case you didn’t get it yet.
As the legendary Weapons is going to be Account Bound with April Feature Pack, can you please make them unbound as well?
Those that have an Legendary Weapon on one character can’t use them on another because some classes can’t use that weapon. Like on this case, I have The Dreamer on my thief but I don’t play the class anymore and can’t use the short-bow on my warrior(main character now). So that way we can trade them and make it much easier to get a Legendary for that specific class that you want to play it.
If that’s the way it’s going to be ignore me, and Thank You!!
At some point you played your Thief, made The Dreamer for it and played it. Why in the world should you be able to unbind it and sell it now?
I’m not asking to be able to unbind an Legendary Weapon at any point. I’ts just an idea to make them unbound(one-time thing) when the pack comes out so players can make a better decision on what Legendary Weapons you want to have based on what class you really want to play, so you can actually use them as well.
So you are asking to unbound it, but you are not, so you can trade it in for something else based on the profession you want to play at the time?
yesI’m thinking that when you made your Dreamer you really wanted to play your Thief, no?
yesHow many do overs do you want?
one time, when the pack comes out.Sorry, it should not work that way.
clearly you are not on the same boat as I am.Just be happy, your Dreamer will be account bound soon so you can use it on other alts you feel like playing at the moment or when you change your mind again.
I know, but I feel playing the warrior class witch I cannot use the Legendary Weapon short-bow that I have as I already said.
As the legendary Weapons is going to be Account Bound with April Feature Pack, can you please make them unbound as well?
Those that have an Legendary Weapon on one character can’t use them on another because some classes can’t use that weapon. Like on this case, I have The Dreamer on my thief but I don’t play the class anymore and can’t use the short-bow on my warrior(main character now). So that way we can trade them and make it much easier to get a Legendary for that specific class that you want to play it.
If that’s the way it’s going to be ignore me, and Thank You!!
At some point you played your Thief, made The Dreamer for it and played it. Why in the world should you be able to unbind it and sell it now?
I’m not asking to be able to unbind an Legendary Weapon at any point. I’ts just an idea to make them unbound(one-time thing) when the pack comes out so players can make a better decision on what Legendary Weapons you want to have based on what class you really want to play, so you can actually use them as well.
As the legendary Weapons is going to be Account Bound with April Feature Pack, can you please make them unbound as well?
Those that have an Legendary Weapon on one character can’t use them on another because some classes can’t use that weapon. Like on this case, I have The Dreamer on my thief but I don’t play the class anymore and can’t use the short-bow on my warrior(main character now). So that way we can trade them and make it much easier to get a Legendary for that specific class that you want to play it.
If that’s the way it’s going to be ignore me, and Thank You!!
Because it wasn’t released yet?
New maps are definitely in the plans, however I can’t say with any degree of certainty when that might be. It takes a good deal of time to get a map to the level of polish that the current maps are in and while we want to get new maps out to mix up the gameplay, we aren’t going to release them until they are totally ready. When there is more to tell, we will tell it, but for now all I can say is we definitely want to do new maps and will when time allows.
By new maps you mean adding brand new maps and leaving the currently ones as it is or repolishing the ones we have? Anyway its good to hear there are changes coming up, the whole point is not having the same maps forever, at some point it gets boring running around the same stuff.
You know that you can finish a downed player without stomping right?
Because apple and orange aren’t the same.
I agree, 3 min sounds ok. It would help dead spying also the mesmer getting rez in keep issue, not that it happens often.
These thieves threads are making less and less sense each day.
Today I found that 1h axe Frost fang or something
Worth around : 340g
Anyone else got a pre-c from them?
ss or didn’t happen
https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/upcoming-skill-and-trait-changes/
The enemy is shut down.
I honestly don’t know what are you talking about.
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/wuv/matchups/6-14-Blackgate-Jade-Quarry-Sanctum-of-Rall
from https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/wuv/matchups
they’ve separated general, matchups and recruitments
Now in a 1v1 if you’re downed you lost the fight.
I can’t agree with you. In a lot of tied 1v1’s the downed state is very important, with fast reaction and being smart you can win even if you got down first, as it’s a tied fight is very likely you get to down your opponent right after you did.
Couldn’t be more fair. Every class has goodies/badies on your downed state, one covering the other to compensate. Well balanced.
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The best server for WvW currently is Vabbi.
This would significantly reduce the effectiveness of small man roaming and havoc squads and force everyone to stay with the zerg, or get beat down by people with an artificial advantage.
Yea but it’s not like giving +300 all stats. Just a little bit of vitally and toughness to help the outnumbered players could be something to think of adding.
A thread’s title “WvW thiefs” that you get in and find out it’s not a troll/complain about thiefs being OP or something alike. You don’t see that everyday.
As long as we keep Henry, All will be fine to me.
ps.: Henry is that big kitten worm north of bay.
lol +1 for the laugh. I like Henry’s WXP.
Leave the Grub alone, he’s no harm to anyone. If there’s something to do is bring him a fiance so he can have a litte fun.
There you can check out the ranking, all servers rating, currently and past matches, even the time zone the servers are good at so you can compare to you playtime to better suit you. If you take a good look there you can make a best decision by your own.
They are going to hide the “outmanned buff” finally some good news from Mr. Carver.
How can you possible say that. Devon has been giving us good news since his arrival. And this is one more for the list, you could give him some more credit.
OP: you have failed to understand it
That happened to me last week, very bad. I would love to see they implement something like if you get DC’d you could have your spot saved for you for about 5min or so, then you could relog and get in. But of course that shouldn’t be in pair with alt+f4.
The biggest problem is that if a guild decide to transfer it loses all the influence and all the guild missions, that will take + than 2 month to unlock back
Ouch!
What if they nerf thiefs and yet you stil can’t deal with them? Isn’t that more humiliation? Don’t ask for things to get worst when it can get better by your own hands.
Permastealth is the stupiest excuse someone can say about thiefs. If he’s permastealth what harm can he do? Only if he attacks you, if so he’s not permastealth anymore. Even if he CD over and over you stil can see him and counter that, if you can’t you just need more practice, cuz its easy. Whiners don’t win, they whine.
Rez a mesmer in enemy keep, port in zerg.
Break any siege left unattended.Nice strawman.
I was talking about player against another player. In your case is just so much chain for that to happen and so not often, I think its not even considered as a issue.
I don’t know why this thread stil doing here. WvW forum is for WvW talking not specific classes.
Wvw has by far the worse server side lag I have ever seen from a game
Yea but also has by far the biggest population then any other game in PvP open area. Action 24/7 up to 50 servers, and that all with skill lag stil. I can only imagine when there’s no skill lag at all.
You can’t leave this game. You stuck with it, you know it. Once in, never out. It’s worst then drugs.
The update notes said that creatures
Are you a creature?
If you are not a creature, wth are you?
This system is actually great. Later on when servers rating starts to adjust with the new system, we gonna have a much better system, stil based on rating but servers will eventually all play each others on a constantly random matchups, since they’re adjusted its going to roll a more accurate matchups.
The blowouts will happen for now, but for good. If you think about it, its going to show wich server was on the wrong position because they were stuck on a tier, NOW its time to servers show what they can do against others opponents that they couldn’t before and determine your right place on the board.
And it’s happening, you can already see servers with 2 tiers below putting out competitive matchups against high rating servers, even beating them. These first weeks will place servers where they actually belong rank wise. This actually is a dam good job!

