This is awesome. Gonna add this to the grimoire if ya don’t mind?
Heh sure
May Lyssa aid you.
Metabattle.com is a new site (still under developement) that’s based on GW1’s PvX wiki. Currently has ~80 builds and it’s time to start making guides – the first series of PvP guides are about mesmer phase retreat spots and covers ~40 spots atm.
This is the very first version, pop-up windows for galleries will likely arrive in a week to make it easier to navigate and even the site will go over some visual overhaul soon.
http://metabattle.com/wiki/Guide:Phase_Retreat_-_Battle_of_Khylo
http://metabattle.com/wiki/Guide:Phase_Retreat_-_Legacy_of_the_Foefire
http://metabattle.com/wiki/Guide:Phase_Retreat_-_Temple_of_the_Silent_Storm
http://metabattle.com/wiki/Guide:Phase_Retreat_-_Forest_of_Niflhel
http://metabattle.com/wiki/Guide:Phase_Retreat_-_Spirit_Watch
Skyhammer is missing because jump pads make Phase Retreat irrelevant, not like it has any meaningful.
If you feel any significant spots are missing, feel free to point it out
@ Vee – don’t you think giving 1 star because of 1 sigil you don’t agree with is a bit absurd?
And we don’t have Earth as main bar, it’s a variant. Geomancy is a bit unrelyable especially on engi – can be very powerful if someone’s on you, especially multiple opponents, but it’s all about luck (engi swaps kits more often than any class swaps weapons, so it’s hard to time a proc), so some people may want a more relyable/ranged way to apply bleed (often triggers 1k range away from your target, totally worth it). It’s still not a main thing, but it’s worth to be listed IMO.
Backpack Regenerator is a great trait and it’s not up to debate. But the discussion was about if it’s worth to take instead of Protection Injection, another very powerful trait.
Eura did well during ToL, that means power ranger is meta? Not yet (#balancepatchinc). Meta refers to widespread, great builds. And most of our builds are based on builds seen on ESL finals and ToL top 4, or ones used by top streamers. The meta tag refers to how widespread and good that build is – if basically nearly every second player of the class is running with that build and it does well in higher rated matchups, it will get the Meta tag. “Awful builds” refer to builds not made by you, we get it.
sigh I wanted to stay away form the forum drama but I’m gonna join in on alt acc.
Hi, I’m Hanz from metabattle, one of the PvP moderators. Let me shed some light on some things.
@Olrun – I think we’ve already discussed his issue in-game, but a quick recap: there is a rule about moving builds from Testing – you need a minimum of 5 votes, then there is an unwritten one we aren’t really using anymore, but if a build sits in testing for ~10 days, and gets 3-4 votes we move it based on those votes. I thought Olrun’s case was the second, but turned out to be the 1st – after 5 votes, the build was sitting on 1.2 stars – we move builds to Trash below 3.75, so it was a pretty easy decision. As the number of voters grow, we will keep raising the number of votes a build needs.
Later we’ve discussed about the possibility of bringing back something I believe gwpvx had at some point, the “Workable” category, which is slightly below the “Good”.
@ArrDee – let’s recap your 24 hour long activity on the site:
The good:
- You’ve joined the discussion page for a build, suggesting changes – some valid, some less valid, and we made some changes based on that. Appreciated.
-You’ve uploaded a new engi build – greatly appreciated ^^
The bad:
- After uploading that build, you skipped the Testing and instantly moved it to Meta (not to mention it’s not meta). We refused this kind of special treatment and moved it back to Testing.
- Then you gave the meta build 1 star just because it’s not your build.
- Next thing you did was blanking the page of the build you’ve uploaded leaving nothing there but an external link – this is an act of vandalism, even if it was uploaded by the same person.
- 3rd one (clever move) you blanked the page of the current engi meta build and replaced it with your build, kept the ratings of that page and changed the rating you gave to 5.
- Needless to say, we reverted these acts of vandalism but you kept doing it. At that point we had to set protection for those 2 pages to prevent further harm (which means only mods can edit the page, which is not what the goal of the wiki is) – giving you 1 more chance to stop doing things that may get you banned, I think the other PvP mod even warned you.
- Then you went to the discussion page and began to curse and kittentalk us for doing what moderators do: #moderate.
- This was the point where we banned you, seeing no hope for you to stop.
You also kept demanding credit for the build, and you still do – we go by the gwpvx rules, taking credit for a build on its page is not allowed, and once the build is the part of the site why would we remove it – someone would upload it sooner or later, and you have no legal claims for that – only ArenaNet does. Not to mention you aren’t the only one running this in the entire game. I’ve tried to get in touch with you in-game about these things but you did not respond to me, instead kept being a forum martyr. I’ve mailed you that if you no longer wish to be associated with the site, taking you off the streamer list is all we can do, but again, you did not respond but kept trying to cause harm to the site by spreading false info (earth sigil and other things were changed weeks ago and the shield part on the P/P guide was clearly an accident that was there for like a day). I took it as a “yes” and removed you from the streamer list.
Last but not least: it’s a community project. If you find 1-2 mistakes among the traits/skill/runes/sigils of ~40 Pvp builds, I don’t think that means the entire site is just bad. Do I have to remind you guys that it’s a community project? If you find a mistake, propose changes on the build’s talk page – actually takes less time and is more effective than forum posting about it – and most of the time you don’t even tell what do you find wrong and why, or usually it turns out to be a preference thing that we already covered in the variants section.