Guild Wars 2

Zonkster.3589:

Ping is the reason platforming (especially moving ones) should not be in an mmo, ’nuff said.

The movement in this puzzle is an illusion, the world around you doesn’t actually move with the exception of the final jump, and the point where you have to wait for the clocktower to break to create a path, but even after that it’s static.

If your ping is so high you can’t time jumps right. i’d sort your connection out tbf

Xuro.5861:

I have tried to finish the new JP for almost 7 hours and I simply cannot make it because I lack the reflexes to do so.

Since I’m an achievement collector and it’s the only thing left for me to do in Guild Wars 2, I would be very disappointed if I couldn’t get my hands on this achievement. I wouldn’t mind it if it was a permanent JP which I could try a few times every day but sadly this is a holiday event.

Although I can understand that the more gifted and experienced players among us seek a challenge, there are people who have sadly issues which prevent them from finishing this JP, for example:

- Age.
- Disabilities.
- Slow reflexes.

I have finished every JP in this game because I was able to do them on my own pace but the reflexes required for this JP, are in my opinion, higher than the average player has.

I always thought that holiday events were supposed to bring joy and a memorable experience to everyone, yet this event only brings negative feelings and memories with it for the gross of the players.

I honestly hope you will reconsider the difficulty and give us a few more spare seconds to do this JP as I am sure that everyone wants to enjoy your work to their fullest.

p.s. this kind of current difficulty would be awesome for permanent puzzles.

Thanks for reading.

Nope, It’s difficult, If you aren’t capable of doing it, then well, you aren’t capable of doing it.

it doesn’t need to be changed, It’s perfectly fine.

kaffaljidhma.1496:

thekemp.5967:

Participating or not, Still shouldn’t be an option.

There’s different ways to finance your game, kittenit.

You mean like subscriptions?

That’s an alternative, not going to happen, obviously, they make more money without a subscription.

No, what i mean is Just the crates, Gambling shouldn’t be an option, They’re likely making more than enough from the various outfits available, the effort/profit ratio for those kind of things are obscene, Why do this? It’s not necessary, and quite frankly it’s insulting.

Sentinel VX.1392:

thekemp.5967:

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thekemp.5967:

Sentinel VX.1392:

It seems you had a bad luck. I only made 5 chests and got destroyer lodestone which worth more than 1 gold LOL.

Just because you didn’t get any thing good doesn’t mean everyone else will experience the same.

Go whine elsewhere, no body cares.

Just because you got something good doesn’t mean everyone else will experience the same.

Go gloat elsewhere, Nobody cares.

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Heh I never say everyone else will experience the same as I do.

What I hate is whiner who think they should get what they paid for, especially on gambling. It’s like when you are suing an owner of a casino because you are losing money from having bad luck or terrible skill.

Please read carefully what I said on my last post before deducting any conclusion.

You didn’t say anything of value, i was attempting to mock you.

I’m not whining, I’m not bothered that i didn’t get anything from the chests, I am however, disgusted with these business practices and i’m attempting to reassure Arena net that this isnt the route they should be going down.

And it’s not a kittening casino. It’s an mmorpg. Stop comparing it to lotteries, casinos, and gambling. It should never go that far, Ever. the fact people are saying “hurdy durr casino chances LEL get over it” is completely irrelevent, There shouldnt be a kittening casino in the first place. It’s not about winning or losing, it’s the principle.

So you are blaming Anet because people being irresponsible with their own money? That’s just stupid.

If you don’t like the system don’t buy the key, as simple as that.

The problem is people blaming Anet because they are having bad luck, What I can say is they have their own responsibility with their own money.

Why do you think casinos exist in real life? Even the government doesn’t put gambling as illegal activity.

It’s your money and it is your responsibility on how you spend it.

Almost EVERY MMORPG out there have this system, even TF2 has this for years without people complaining to valve.

Every item in this chest is purely cosmetic, that’s right it doesn’t offer any advantage other than being cool.

People need to grow up and have responsibility for themself.

You can still get the skins easily in tf2, The only difference is one being an unusual and having a sparkly (arguably pretty lame) effect.

Responsibility is irrelevent, it flat out shouldnt be there in the first place. At all. You’re all jumping at other players at being the root of the problem. Throwing around words like “entitled” and “responsibility”. That’s completely irrelevant, This shouldn’t be in the game in the first place, We shouldnt be having this discussion. It flat out shouldn’t be here. there’s no place for it. it’s an archaic form of business.

Also, VERY FEW top tier mmorpgs have this sort of real money gambling, the only one recently to introduce a similar thing is Runescape, and and that was met with the same controversy as this is, i dont understand where you’re pulling “EVERY MMORPG” from, But that’s an outright lie. No other AAA developer would be caught dead encouraging Real life gambling to minors, It just doesn’t happen. even Activision-blizzard have standards.

And i’m pretty sure i’ve said this several times, But minors play this game, how is encouraging minors to gamble the responsible thing to do?

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Wayshuba.5912:

Sentinel VX.1392:

Why do you think casinos exist in real life? Even the government doesn’t put gambling as illegal activity.

First, this is an MMO NOT a casino. When did it become acceptable for video games to be considered CASINOS?

Secondly, the federal government does not put limits on gambling because of the land usage which makes it a sovereign right of the state governments, of which in the vast majority of states in America gambling is illegal. The only exception is Native American reservation lands, which is how most states (like Michigan and Washington State where ArenaNet is HQd) have casinos.

Are you being forced to gamble with keys? no? then DON’T do it.

No one are being forced to gamble their own money to get some silly skins, it’s because they WANT to by their OWN will.

I never bought a single key of BLTC and I enjoy this game A LOT.

Participating or not, Still shouldn’t be an option.

There’s different ways to finance your game, kittenit.

Still missing the point mate, It’s not about rarity. legendaries are rare and don’t contain any elements from the cash shop(albeit you could purchase gold, But whatever)

The problem is the fact the item was seeded as an incredibly low drop rate from an item that can only be attained from the cash shop(with minor exceptions), Low drop rates are fine. Low drop rates from something which can only be purchased with real cash? That’s not fine, That’s gambling, Underage gambling in a lot of cases. It’s completely inappropriate for this environment. not to mention despicable business practices.

Rare items are fine. Casinos, Lotteries, whatever you want to refer them as, are not.

I’ve said my bid for tonight, I waited up late for the patch, heh.

Don’t expect any more replies from me on this topic, I’m done with it, I purchased this game in good faith after hearing about the various promises and good will the developers ensured pre launch, And after discovering that their owner(?) is NCsoft, I can’t help but think that they’re having a terribly negative influence on what would otherwise be a relatively decent game launch.

Have a good Halloween Guys, and remember kids, Gambling is bad.

You didn’t say anything of value, i was attempting to mock you.

I’m not whining, I’m not bothered that i didn’t get anything from the chests, I am however, disgusted with these business practices and i’m attempting to reassure Arena net that this isnt the route they should be going down.

And it’s not a kittening casino. It’s an mmorpg. Stop comparing it to lotteries, casinos, and gambling. It should never go that far, Ever. the fact people are saying “hurdy durr casino chances LEL get over it” is completely irrelevent, There shouldnt be a kittening casino in the first place. It’s not about winning or losing, it’s the principle.

The TP stuff is still seeded through crates. and the only decent skins are something along the lines of 40g, If you’re incapable of farming that before the holiday event ends, the prices will be skyrocketing. if any are available at all, given its a consumable.

I’m completely aware of that, I’ve played both games extensively and have strong opinions of various aspects of both, But that’s irrelevant. In that game there’s usually two holiday situations.

You get X amount of tries for the 1% drop rate in said holiday, This doesnt guarantee that you will get an item, but ensures everybody has the exact same chances to get it. if you don’t, tough luck. It’s fair to everyone.That’s fine.

You can farm X item infinite amount of times, and X item has a 0.1% chance to drop the rare item, or is available for Y amounts of X item, Ensuring everybody can eventually get the rare item assuming they put in enough effort.

The situation we have with this event crate, is the fact it can only be seeded into the game by buying a key worth 125 gems, That’s worth around 1.5 dollars(?) The drop rate so far has been estimated at around 1-2%, That means in order to have a “Decent” chance of getting the skins, you have to put in 75-150 dollars, and even then, It’s not a guarantee, you could spend thousands and still not get it because “LOL CASINO, ITS ONLY A CHANCE” This favours people with (kittenING HUGE)Disposable income, as opposed to people who have a spare 10-20 and some time in their holiday. It

I don’t see how that’s appropriate, at all. Encouraging gambling isn’t Something any company who sells their product to underage teens should be doing.

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riddleguy.9738:

Vanguardian.4921:

So Anet is all this and all that just because each and every one of you doesn’t get exactly what you want? They took an extra step to give you another chance, it’s called gambling for a reason.

The above sums up my opinion. I think some of you guys are judging a bit harshly….this is only act 1. We have no idea what rewards/content the other 3 acts have to offer.

This problem is completely separate from the halloween event.

It’s the principle of implementing real money gambling on a limited duration item.

I’m looking forward to the halloween event, But they won’t be getting any of my money anymore, Not with antics like these.

I’d rather have a sub fee than this.

Real money gambling is disgusting, I was hoping these chests might alleviate the problem but alas, the drop rates are the same, if not lower, and tailor to gem store purchases only.

My apologies, Anet. I thought you worthy of financial support, alas. It is not meant to be.

Thanks you for addressing the problems Anet.

Hopefully there won’t be real money gambling in future patches

kaffaljidhma.1496:

It is too hard to make a game where some person can’t figure out a way to beat the economic system, through exploit, botting, or hacks. No matter how well you seal the leaks, the damage has already been done to economic stability, so the only way to reclaim it for the good of more casual players is to put in a money sink. The best part about it: this is a game. You play it for fun, and when you lose all your money and progress, you still have a game that you play for fun. People don’t come and repossess your house. You aren’t forced to go begging on the street. You don’t get your fingers broken in a back room. It is a game designed with easy, noncompetitive progress and abstract rewards as a break from real life where you have to claw your way to the top and failure means spending the rest of your days in suffering.

No.

My body can’t handle anymore cash sinks.

I might die, Please, No.

Ykfox.3825:

Hughs.6549:

nldixon.8514

Nobody is forcing you to buy lottery tickets every day are they? So why do you feel like you have to buy keys in order to get what you want? You could, you know, spend some time crafting, farming or grinding get the exact same results. It just takes longer, but there is a guaranteed chance that you will eventually get what you want.

/facepalm

1. It’s not lottery, it’s a mmo game (1)
2. FACTS : thousands of $$$$ have been wasted for N O T H I N G, i agree that the “super-rare” skin should be rare, and a chance is a chance, but so much money for not even a freaking candy or something related to halloween ? Seriously what kind of game is this. (2)
3. Why would arenanet kitten off their best paying customers and lose all credibility to them ? What kind of business move is that rofl…

Every end game super rare things are based on freaking gambling in gw2(mystic forge, Buy2Win chests), again what kind of game is this.

—>And no, it’s not that optional : the entire game is based on skins.<— (3)

(1) Yes, it is an mmo, and amazingly, it’s still an mmo even if you don’t get the silly rare skins for your weapons.

(2) Technically, people are likely getting tonics, boosters, black lion salvage kits/axes/mining picks/etc, maybe even a few are getting the skins. They aren’t spending money for NOTHING. They just aren’t getting what they want. There is a difference. Also, we’ve already agreed it’s an mmo, to further clarify, it’s an mmoRPG. :P

(3) This is the stupidest thing I have EVER seen. Ever. Honestly, the only reason to get the skins is because you /want/ them. You don’t need them, they do nothing for you statswise.

They are an OPTIONAL appearance modifier. Not necessary in any way to play the game.

Well it depends how you define playing the game, if we didn’t want or attempt to do anything that was optional, nobody would step out of queensdale or spvp.

And it’s not so much that it’s optional as much as it is the way they implemented it. Gambling shouldn’t be a part of a game with this standard of development. It’s an archaic form of monetisation, as i said previously. the fact it’s rare isn’t a problem at all, it’s because it’s a rare drop from an already expensive gem store item. Suddenly having a few more attempts at getting your wanted item is the equivalent cost of an actual lottery ticket, instead of a few minutes gathering some other theoretically miscellaneous item which could be exchanged for boxes/tickets/whatever.

Actually, i looked it up, and assuming the droprate is between 1-2%, perhaps lower. you have a higher chance of winning the lottery with 3 numbers and getting £10 back then you do of getting one of these weapons.

nldixon.8514:

Well, I’m done!

You guys don’t get it.

I get what you mean, completely.

I just think this method of monetisation is silly, archaic and immoral.

nldixon.8514:

thekemp, the problem with your reasoning is that the only way to get into the chests is with keys purchased from the BLTC. Keys can also be acquired through regular game play and there will always be people who get lucky and end up getting skins on their first or second box. Not everyone is going to choose to use those skins and they’ll end up on the BLTC.

There are also going to be crafters who will make the weapons after the event is over. If you really want the skins, you can get them without spending a dime. It just requires more effort, which is something people don’t want to hear.

But the additional effort isn’t in anyway related to Halloween, at all, which is the entire point of this patch.

You could spend a month farming, being bored out of your mind trying to get this one skin, then a month later the Christmas patch is out and its exactly the same deal again.

The keys you receive from map completion and personal story are nowhere near enough to receive a skin, baring in mind most people who got keys have already used them before the event, so unless you can 1-80 and 100% a character before Halloween is over, that’s no real use to anyone.

There will also be those people who will pay hundreds and not receive a skin. This method isn’t really “fair” as much as i dislike using that word. It’s not fair.

As i said previously, the recipe skins are outrageous and are out of the reach of a regular player.

Gift of Souls: 250 Oricalchum Ingots | 20 Globs of Ecto | 100 Destroyer Lodestones | 1 Gift of Knowledge . That’s one of the prereq recipes.

nldixon.8514:

Are YOU serious? I was under the impression that this game was about PvE and PvP, not collecting different skins for your gear.

Your goals (collecting skins) are not the same goals as everyone else. Some people play the game for, you know, fun.

I’m pretty certain he’s serious, PvE and PvP reward skins, every dungeon has its own skins, WvW has skins, sPvP has skins, We even have legendary skins for those willing to go the extra mile. skins are this games only “carrot”, if you will.

Playing the game is obviously fun, Getting rewarded for playing well is also fun.

Which reiterates my original point, Gambling isnt fun. at least not when the odds are stacked.

The fun part of costume brawl is the fact you can do it anywhere, If you want to compete but can’t due to computer performance. Just don’t do it in lions arch, i found a few people spawning cauldrons and stuff near ghost locationshaemoor graveyard and i had a grand time there.

nldixon.8514:

thekemp.5967:

nldixon.8514:

In all fairness, it’s not ANet’s responsibility to teach teenagers about the dangers of alcohol, gambling, or chainsaw swords.

If parents aren’t keeping tabs on what their children are doing and they end up being drunken gambling addicts with chainsaw swords, that is fully on the shoulders of the parents and not ANet.

Yeah, But they aren’t rewarding or encouraging me to drink alcohol.

As it stands right now the only way to get those weapon skins is gambling.

Patently untrue. You can also spend some of your money to buy the skins on the BLTC.

It works just like it does in real life. You can either work hard and save your hard earned money (gold) and buy what you want or you can spend all your hard earned money (gold or cash) on lottery tickets (keys).

Nobody is forcing you to buy lottery tickets every day are they? So why do you feel like you have to buy keys in order to get what you want? You could, you know, spend some time crafting, farming or grinding get the exact same results. It just takes longer, but there is a guaranteed chance that you will eventually get what you want.

Those skins still come from the same location though, they might be selling them on the TP but they still got them from the crates. Besides, the greatsword skin is 43g, a low level player could never grind that, It would take some freakin’ insane effort even with my 80 necro. All the while the prices go up more due to the event ending before i can get the appropriate amount of money.

I don’t buy lottery tickets, I’m not a moron, similarly, Anet isn’t getting my money either now. But that’s irrelevant anyways, There shouldn’t be a god kitten lottery here in the first place. Not for real money.

The recipe is practically a semi-legendary, it’s price is more ridiculous than enough keys to ensure a decent chance of success.

Like i said, I’m not opposed to rare drops in general, Only when they’re seeded through rare drop of a premium item. That’s not the way to do microtransactions, it’s a one time deal. I guarantee the a large amount, if not the majority of people who bought keys this event won’t do so again.

nldixon.8514:

In all fairness, it’s not ANet’s responsibility to teach teenagers about the dangers of alcohol, gambling, or chainsaw swords.

If parents aren’t keeping tabs on what their children are doing and they end up being drunken gambling addicts with chainsaw swords, that is fully on the shoulders of the parents and not ANet.

Yeah, But they aren’t rewarding or encouraging me to drink alcohol.

As it stands right now the only way to get those weapon skins is gambling.

The problem here isn’t the fact that the weapons are a low drop rate, That’s completely normal, even mandatory if you want to make specific items “rare”

The problem is the fact it uses real currency, You could argue that gems are no longer money when they are converted from cash to gems, But they have a verified exchange rate. You’re gambling to get something good, and encouraging gambling to a young audience isn’t exactly something you should be doing on a holiday event.

If the rare items were in the crates permanently it would be somewhat less of a problem, the supply would always be there. and we all get free keys now and then. the fact it’s for a limited duration exacerbates the gambling aspect because you won’t be able to try again in a few weeks.

I have no qualms about the other outfits and such available on the gem store(although i wouldn’t mind something just as cool for people who “only” bought your game, even on a low drop rate), The problem lies within the fact you’re paying (A LOT) of money for only a “chance” at the only real, long term, tradable, good looking skins.

let me reiterate, I understand Anet and it’s overlords have certain requirements in terms of financial support, but this is not the way to do it. This isn’t 2003, This isn’t Vegas or Korea(Or maybe it is for you)

Before i get quoted and told off about how you can transfer gold to gems and get keys that way and you could farm the gold to do so, lets just remember that the drop chance is around 2% give or take, that’s 50 keys, at 125 gems each, around 1.50 gold(?) each Give or take. that’s 75 gold just for a “good” chance. This is unacceptable.

I do appreciate the rest of the content implemented so far with the Halloween event, Please don’t assume i’m some sort of kitten troll, I’m working on getting my second character to 80 and i’m enjoying it.

Remember kids, gambling is bad, don’t let the corporations fool you, you won’t get a 7 foot chainsaw sword in real life.

P.S This isn’t a free to play game, that argument is completely and irrevocably Invalid. We all paid the price of a AAA game, and a great deal of us have bought gems, we have a right as consumers to state our opinion on the current state and heading of micro transactions, i for one, will never buy a single gem if this happens again at Christmas. It’s shameful business practices, Gambling should never be a business model in a game which is available for children.

Some of the denial in this thread is laughable.

Just because you don’t like raid based pve, does not mean a lot of other don’t. There’s a reason the big name mmo’s always incorporate a raid based system, and that’s because its fun. It’s fun to get 10/20 people from your guild and go destroy raid bosses for cool looking gear for bragging rights.

You’re correct in saying that raids as we know them wouldn’t be the correct structure for guild wars. But something is needed, GW2 currently lacks any proper endgame pve content. Farming events isn’t endgame. There’s like a couple of dungeons limited to level 80 players but even those are lackluster in comparison to other mmorpgs.

Endgame content is required if you want the game to last longer than a few months, I personally like wvw and spvp, But not everybody does. and its those people who are going to run out of stuff to do.

Also, as a side note. Wouldn’t it be cool to mount a raid bosses head in your guild hall or house if/when those features are ever implemented?

I do hope when they implement paid server transfers they still allow conditional free transfers to underpopulated and underperforming realms. A number of other games do this, despite it requiring a slight bit more moderation it’s more beneficial for players.

Having levelled a character to 80, working on my second now. and spending a week farming in orr for my exotics and such. One of things i realize most is that i feel a chronic “disconnect” with the area i’m in.

For example; When farming event chains in the cursed shore, Malchors leap or straits, you’re never aware of the areas current progress in events going on around you. The current little “meta” interface provides nowhere near enough information. If i’m currently escorting troops through malchors leap for example, The meta interface will rarely say more than “x base needs reinforcements” Despite there being a great deal of important events being here. Such as various temples. champions and other important challenges.

Ideally, The map should show information about every event from each portion of the map you’ve uncovered in your current area. This could be expanded by providing additional information by hovering over the event on the (mini)map, allowing you to essentially “examine” it without having to waste 1-3 silver using a waypoint for an event which may not even give you it back.

Extended information should be available for specific groups of areas, For example. whenever i’m in orr, (be it shore, malchors or straits)the meta interface should have a drop down menu, or something similar showing me information for all of the temples in orr, these being some of the most important and best yielding(?) events in the game

Since there’s a great deal of meta events in the game, some of which you can completely miss, regardless of your map completion, i believe this is one of the next steps in increasing accessibility for dynamic events and content within the game.

tl;dr: More dynamic event interface and information

Thanks for reading. additional suggestions are welcome.

More dynamic events like this will probably appear whenever we get a content patch that includes the dragons as a focal point.

For example, the next time our adventurers are given the task of facing jormag, or another elder dragon, it’s very possible in the same patch we will likely receive dragon related events and encounters in the related areas.