Guild Wars 2

Am i the only one who thinks that she looks… Scared? Not weird, jus scared at “OMFG WHY ME?!” or something like that

@Osicat: I was alive at the end, but yeah, that happened xD

Oh! Oh! I have one of those!

Well… Technically speaking it was a “doh” moment to my guildies. For me it was a “wtf?” with a loud laugh through the TS3.

We where doing a dungueon, dont remember right now which one but i have the feeling it was CoF. Before finishing the combat we where engaged in I went downed. After dying one of the enemies i got up, but in case i spawned a clone in downed to protect myself.

After the battle, i saw my guildies trying to raise my clone frome the dead while i heard:

-“lets raise the mesmer up to continue”-

I was like:

-“uh…. Guys…? I am over here…?”- I trolled my own team xD

Am i the only one playing a Power/Crit/Condition Flamethrower build with Superior Rune of Strengh?

Ok.

I am writing this while watching at the World Boss of the dungueon…

Holly kitten!!!!! That was… Wow!

Just one word…

AWESOME!!

Eilaf… Souns like he likes spending time telling stories about his adventures in the tabern!
Grima Hildr. I like it, you gave it meaning to the name

Flamegeneer – Arven Wolfskin

kellian.9712:

vysaek.8290:

kellian.9712:

vysaek.8290:

kellian.9712:

vysaek.8290 – you must have missed where i also said “from what I read on the blog post this is what it looks like”

There is information out there, and the information doesn’t look promising. Hey at the end of the day its a FTP game that I enjoy playing with the family. One of the reasons we decided to play it was no gear progression. if that changes and gear progression becomes the norm, we will just find another game, or something else to do.

No one is “raging” stating an opposing opinion is just that, stating an opposing opinion. Sitting back and not saying anything, considering we enjoy playing, would accomplish nothing.

There is information, ok. But the WHOLE information or only a tiny bit?

And what does acomplish stating an oposition in something you dont fully dont know? they only added a preview of what it is going to come and you are all jugding it event without knowing the whole thing! Even without testing it! Its like a baby cry for eating something you dont like, and you event had a taste yet.

But again your wrong, I have tried this system in LOTRO, its basically the EXACT SAME SYSTEM they tried with radiance gear. Furthermore, as you can see the links others have posted it is clearly stated that this is just the beginning.

Are we really arguing about facts now? Anet releases a blog that clearly states this is just the beginning of all of this, how much more information does one need to form an opinion? This was a game that was supposed to have no gear progression, that is what they said and part of why we bought the game. Now they are doing something different.

pretty sure I have all the information I need, but I’m willing to see what the Dev’s say. Maybe they change their mind (probably not), maybe they change how it’s implemented (probably not). That’s why I’m waiting to see what they say, maybe they have a change of heart (again probably not)…but I like the game enough to give them a chance.

“how much more information does one need to form an opinion?”

All of it.

The bottom line is you are going to like this system no matter what they say, while some of us have been playing these games (MMO’s) for years and know where this is headed based on their own blog post, and have played systems like this in the past.

if you really don’t see it, and really don’t see a philosophy switch (just based on their quotes about the game before release and what their blog post from yesterday says)…then how can we (you and I) have a real discussion about it when you refuse to acknowledge something that is plain to see for everyone else that is the basic starting point of the discussion?

Dont misunderstand me, please.

I know and i understand what you are saying, what you are trying to tell me.

I have my own opinion about the matter.

I do WvW, dungueons and PvE. I have nearly full exotics and they have the look i wanted to give them. New content? new equipement? Lets give it a try and then i will make up my mind about the thing, if i like or not. Until then i will stay neutral.

I didnt bought the game because of the gear, i bought it because of the PvE mechanic, WvW, Lore of the 5 main races, Dragons and such. Playing i have seen things, i know they are there but i dont know HOW to do them (Ej: Isgarren). I have had a taste of the lore of Kodan, i have travelled through the sky fighting dragons, i have helped my team going through traps in dungueons with the mesmer and so much more.

So, from my point of view Gw2 is a whole, not only the gear progression. I played FFXI back then when only had 3 years of live, i know the meaning of grinding, gear progresion and hardcore gaming.

This, so far has nothing to do with it.

But, that is my point of view, you have yours. Every single of you looks the game on a different way, and NONE of us has the right to say what is good, or what is bad. We can give our opinion, but we can demand nothing to Anet and get angry to a company because every single one of us finds something we dont like. It’s THEYR game, we are playing it.

That is what i am saying.

I understand you, i am not trying to convice you. I am just saying, we cant jugde a whole, by a tiny bit of it. That is all.

ValSatari.7061:

Not to mention, that’s just magic find, I’m sure there will be a crit dmg one, and every other bonus just like exotics now, so if that’s magic find and a 3% increase on that just one ring to boot, it’ll be a 3% increase to crit dmg as well.

Anyone in their right mind who mins/maxes will agree the new jewelry is far superior and you will need it to progress from here on out.

Has their been a treadmill created? Offically yes if they walk out with those items. What they could have done is just gave us a quest that will result in infusing our items so there would be no gear treadmill, but instead they went with this option where the stats are OBVIOUSLY better and now the new infusions making them REQUIRED. And don’t argue with the point of “you won’t need it if you don’t do the dungeon” so if you dont’ do this dungeon, you won’t need this right now, but what about 3 months down the road?

So.

You want a game with no new gear, stats or [name it here] to fight the whole 4 dragons we have to whipe yet.

You want the same, items, whithout any change or new mechanic… I find that kind of boring myself.

kellian.9712:

vysaek.8290:

kellian.9712:

vysaek.8290 – you must have missed where i also said “from what I read on the blog post this is what it looks like”

There is information out there, and the information doesn’t look promising. Hey at the end of the day its a FTP game that I enjoy playing with the family. One of the reasons we decided to play it was no gear progression. if that changes and gear progression becomes the norm, we will just find another game, or something else to do.

No one is “raging” stating an opposing opinion is just that, stating an opposing opinion. Sitting back and not saying anything, considering we enjoy playing, would accomplish nothing.

There is information, ok. But the WHOLE information or only a tiny bit?

And what does acomplish stating an oposition in something you dont fully dont know? they only added a preview of what it is going to come and you are all jugding it event without knowing the whole thing! Even without testing it! Its like a baby cry for eating something you dont like, and you event had a taste yet.

But again your wrong, I have tried this system in LOTRO, its basically the EXACT SAME SYSTEM they tried with radiance gear. Furthermore, as you can see the links others have posted it is clearly stated that this is just the beginning.

Are we really arguing about facts now? Anet releases a blog that clearly states this is just the beginning of all of this, how much more information does one need to form an opinion? This was a game that was supposed to have no gear progression, that is what they said and part of why we bought the game. Now they are doing something different.

pretty sure I have all the information I need, but I’m willing to see what the Dev’s say. Maybe they change their mind (probably not), maybe they change how it’s implemented (probably not). That’s why I’m waiting to see what they say, maybe they have a change of heart (again probably not)…but I like the game enough to give them a chance.

“how much more information does one need to form an opinion?”

All of it.

Bardes.1870:

vysaek.8290:

kellian.9712:

vysaek.8290 – you must have missed where i also said “from what I read on the blog post this is what it looks like”

There is information out there, and the information doesn’t look promising. Hey at the end of the day its a FTP game that I enjoy playing with the family. One of the reasons we decided to play it was no gear progression. if that changes and gear progression becomes the norm, we will just find another game, or something else to do.

No one is “raging” stating an opposing opinion is just that, stating an opposing opinion. Sitting back and not saying anything, considering we enjoy playing, would accomplish nothing.

There is information, ok. But the WHOLE information or only a tiny bit?

And what does acomplish stating an oposition in something you dont fully dont know? they only added a preview of what it is going to come and you are all jugding it event without knowing the whole thing! Even without testing it! Its like a baby cry for eating something you dont like, and you event had a taste yet.

There are too many mmorpg doing this or similar systems. Many “haters” here have already tasted enough.

You cant use that “hate” to attack something you even dont know yet at the full. You may have your reasons to have that fear, but it does not give you the right. I prefer to wait and see, and then jugde.

kellian.9712:

vysaek.8290 – you must have missed where i also said “from what I read on the blog post this is what it looks like”

There is information out there, and the information doesn’t look promising. Hey at the end of the day its a FTP game that I enjoy playing with the family. One of the reasons we decided to play it was no gear progression. if that changes and gear progression becomes the norm, we will just find another game, or something else to do.

No one is “raging” stating an opposing opinion is just that, stating an opposing opinion. Sitting back and not saying anything, considering we enjoy playing, would accomplish nothing.

There is information, ok. But the WHOLE information or only a tiny bit?

And what does acomplish stating an oposition in something you dont fully dont know? they only added a preview of what it is going to come and you are all jugding it event without knowing the whole thing! Even without testing it! Its like a baby cry for eating something you dont like, and you event had a taste yet.

kellian.9712:

vysaek.8290:

kellian.9712:

I know I bought a game that announced no gear progression.

This ^ – When researching this game It was made clear that any difference in gear would be cosmetic only and their would be no “gear progression” as we have come to know it in other MMO’s.

So the problem for me isn’t so much the “stats” or anything, it’s the idea they have basically changed their philosophy on what the game is and where they want the game to go. If this is just the beginning of what they intend to do, you know this won’t be the last of it.

That’s my problem with it, that they seem to have had a change in philosophy for what they want the game to be moving forward. Maybe I’m wrong and further clarification is needed, but I’ve been in other MMO’s that tried this after the fact and the move was a complete failure.

The game isnt even complete. You cant jugde what the top is in the “gear power” only by a tiny piece of it. I dont see any change of phylosophy, because the new gear offers a minimal progresion.[/quote]

My only argument against that is the following:

When you are told something won’t happen or won’t be included, then it gets included after the fact, no matter how small that IS a change in philosophy.

I said this in another post but Lotro tried this, and it was a miserable failure and it took them some time but they eventually got rid of it and took it out of the game. The tried almost this EXACT thing.

Clearly we all need to wait on a dev post on the subject to get further clarification but from what I read on the blog post this is what it looks like.[/quote]

If you say “we need to wait a post on the subject to get further clarification” then i dont see what is the point of raging in the forums and give massive wrong info that even we dont know about, yet.

Frotee.2634:

People are moaning because ArenaNet listened to the people moaning for a carrot on a stick – instead of staying true to their loyal fans who were looking the one game which doesn’t.

The problem isn’t a 2 point increase in stats – the problem is that the very same people who have already started getting bored because they rushed through content and spend hours and hours on getting legendaries will be bored again in no time. And then we’ll need another increase in stats to pacify those people, only to have them getting bored again a few weeks later…it’s a vicious circle.

That happens in every game, even MMO.

Welcome to reality.

Draknar.5748:

BadHealer.3608:

Drazharm.1829:

I don’t understand why so much rage.

If you see numbers, you’ll see that item progr. is null. I mean:

https://d2vn94glaxzkz3.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Ascended-ES.png
Ascended ring: Base of exotic stats + extra stats from jewel / Infussion slot that would NOT give you extra stats instead of AGONY RESISTANCE.
Exotic ring: Base of exotic stats/ Extra stats from jewel

What’s the difference between those 2 rings when ascended ring is UNIQUE equipment? +5 power + 5 precission? WOW, I’M INVINCIBLE!

Sorry, but am I’m the only one that sees:
+50, +50, +10%, +18, +18 + Open slot on ascended
+48, +48, +3% + filled slot on the uniquie

That are +136 stats and 10% against 96 stats + 3% making this item around 33% better. I wouldn’t call this a slight increase.

I’m with you on this one. That ring is significantly better.

Now, open the picture again and look at the Filled Slot of the right ring. then you can trully see the real diference between those 2

kellian.9712:

I know I bought a game that announced no gear progression.
[/quote]

This ^ – When researching this game It was made clear that any difference in gear would be cosmetic only and their would be no “gear progression” as we have come to know it in other MMO’s.

So the problem for me isn’t so much the “stats” or anything, it’s the idea they have basically changed their philosophy on what the game is and where they want the game to go. If this is just the beginning of what they intend to do, you know this won’t be the last of it.

That’s my problem with it, that they seem to have had a change in philosophy for what they want the game to be moving forward. Maybe I’m wrong and further clarification is needed, but I’ve been in other MMO’s that tried this after the fact and the move was a complete failure. [/quote]

The game isnt even complete. You cant jugde what the top is in the “gear power” only by a tiny piece of it. I dont see any change of phylosophy, because the new gear offers a minimal progresion.

BadHealer.3608:

Drazharm.1829:

I don’t understand why so much rage.

If you see numbers, you’ll see that item progr. is null. I mean:

https://d2vn94glaxzkz3.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Ascended-ES.png
Ascended ring: Base of exotic stats + extra stats from jewel / Infussion slot that would NOT give you extra stats instead of AGONY RESISTANCE.
Exotic ring: Base of exotic stats/ Extra stats from jewel

What’s the difference between those 2 rings when ascended ring is UNIQUE equipment? +5 power + 5 precission? WOW, I’M INVINCIBLE!

Sorry, but am I’m the only one that sees:
+50, +50, +10%, +18, +18 + Open slot on ascended
+48, +48, +3% + filled slot on the uniquie

That are +136 stats and 10% against 96 stats + 3% making this item around 33% better. I wouldn’t call this a slight increase.

I see this.
+50, +50, +10%, +18, +18 + Open slot on ascended
+48, +48, +3% With slot filled: +4% +15 +15

Haishao.6851:

vysaek.8290:

You knew for the very start what game where you buying, why the rage now :S

I know I bought a game that announced no gear progression.

Then you expected to have the same stats over 80 levels no matter the gear? That IS gear progression. Even Gw1 had it.

I will just say a few things to thoe who are raging…

Guild Wars 2 it is not Guild Wars 1. If you liked Gw1 over Gw2, then leave Gw2 and go back to the first game… This goes to those who are saying “gw1 didnt needed this… or that”

Guild Wars 2 has… 2 and half monts of life? And it is NOT finished yet. There will be new content, there will be new gear and new challengues. If you guys want a finished product, play Gw1.

You knew for the very start what game where you buying, why the rage now :S

I think you people didn’t notice, but we only killed 1 of the 5 dragons this game has to offer. That means, we still need 4 more to actually beat the story of the game, right? Now… Knowing that… Did you really think there isnt going to be ANY progression since the launch of Gw2 to the very last dragon? Really? Did you all who are reging now seriously think that there is only going to be the same stats over and over?

I dont know of you, but when i got lvl 80 i have the same feeling back in gw2, i just got the max lvl of the game. This has just started, and there are new things to come.

(sorry for my english, not my native language)

ArcticRed.3068:

vysaek.8290:

As utilities i usually use a full mantra build with Mantra of Pain always being in use for constant healing.

Am i missing something on the tooltip?
I thought mantra of pain was a damage spell not healing.

With Healing Mantras, all mantras heal on the 4sec cast.

I use a Mantra/phantasm build.

10/30/0/20/10

Mantra healing, Empowering mantras, Compounding power, Empowered ilussions, Phantsmal fury, Deceptive evasion.

Cleric armor with Dwayna runes. Weapon, rings and such with Berserker.

My build it’s a mix of dmg and healing as you can see. Weapons are Greatsword, sword/pistol. As utilities i usually use a full mantra build with Mantra of Pain always being in use for constant healing.

It has worked well for me so far :P

Here, my Norn Engineer.

Flamethrower is his weapon. It has so awesomness in him… ¡he could use it as a melee weapon if he wanted to do so!

Our guild was excited when the clip of the MK appeared Now we are trying to enter the dungueon. We know the issues of the overflowing, so we have patience

Here! My Mesmer!

Asgath of the Sylvari!

Path 3 was pretty easy for our group.

The Torch part we did it at the 5º try with chat, altuough we where raging a little bit. After that, it was incredible easy, even the part where you must run like hell for the bombs. That was actuall funny for us :p

I am the mesmer of the group, so usually i am the one who saves everyone kittens from those parts.

Right now CoF is easy to run in every path, you just need coordination.

Just did this path yesterday with our group.

Warrior
Warrior
Elementalist
Necromancer
Mesmer (me)

Each one of us focusses on a role on the team, so we usually dont have mayor problems with bosses. The first time we tried this one he wiped out us witouth mercy. At the second try… well, we managed to get of 2/3 of his ligfe. It was impossible to drop it from there, even after reading the feedback of this boss.

A shame, really, my team got a little bit raged >_<

Anyway, when we managed to cut out 2/3 of his hp the cristals drop rate increased in a massive way, and very fast. Just nearly imposible to keep dogding them and his attacks.

Sorry for my english, it is not my native language.

Same happens to me. Last time the game crashed in the Shatterer event, after the “woo” sound.