Guild Wars 2

My only complaint is that Final Thrust is still bad. :I

If there was no WvW I probably wouldn’t be playing this game anymore.

Dan.2940:

zTales.4392:

Obtain the item on one of your characters, and deposit it into the bank. Exit the game. Log back in and move the rare candy from one bank slot to the next. That split second that the item is placed in the next bank slot, exit the game. When you come back, you will have a duplicate of the rare candy. Repeat as needed.

Source: “SAVING… DON’T TUR”

Yeah, until you accidently delete your level 100 Charizard this way… Was a sad day in my childhood.

Cloning them always gave me the creeps for some reason. I know they’re just pixels, but … meh. I did it to get an Umbreon and an Espeon, but it felt so wrong. o___o

Obtain the item on one of your characters, and deposit it into the bank. Exit the game. Log back in and move the rare candy from one bank slot to the next. That split second that the item is placed in the next bank slot, exit the game. When you come back, you will have a duplicate of the rare candy. Repeat as needed.

Source: “SAVING… DON’T TUR”

Gibson.4036:

The Outmanned buff has been renamed to Outnumbered.

Whew! Glad to see the feminist boycott of WvW finally broke those evil male chauvinists at ANet.

We can now go back to killing each other in a politically correct environment.

LOL. When was this even brought up as an issue? xD

Pixelpumpkin.4608:

dulfy.net

/15char

Ah, thanks.

Meh. Not a big fan of ’em.

Does anyone have screenshots of all the new skins?

Does anyone have screenshots of all the new stuff?

I very much enjoy fast weapons, mainly just because slow weapons bore me. Take, for example, the Warrior’s Sword and Axe (which are faster) vs the Warrior’s Mace, Longbow and Hammer (which are slower).

The classes I’ve enjoyed the most would have to be my Shortbow/Greatsword Ranger and my Dagger/Dagger Elementalist. However, I’m looking for something faster.

Suggestions? :o

foofad.5162:

I’m not really the authority on bunker builds, and I’m not even really sure that you can be a bunker build without capture points. That’s what “bunker” means – you can sit on a capture point in sPvP and not die. Since WvW is by its nature much more open and mobile, it makes much less sense to build specifically for durability since you are no longer talking about defending a small static location against at most a handfull of player. Instead you’re talking about defending a large open space and a half dozen NPCs against a horde potentially.

All that is to say that in my opinion, building for tanking alone in WvW is not wise, and instead you should build for a balanced approach at the tankiest. You need to be able to kill the glassy players and run away from the tanky players that can’t kill you in time. I know of a few hybrid builds in the 50-65% of full DPS build range that you might like though, if you want that. I’ve never spent much time with trying to tank WvW.

Show me the hybrid builds! ^-^

Thanks, Lurock!

foofad.5162:

Kharel Arhew.1437:

Depends on the situation. If you have 15 in honor, chances are you have permanent (or near-permanent) vigor anyway, so using a dodge every now and then for healing when your endurance is full isn’t necessarily a bad thing, and you’re rarely at full health in WvW except out-of-combat. That being the case, the extra healing power will help keep you topped off. You can dodge 4 times for every Empower you can get off if you have vigor (ignoring the cooldown reduction; that reduces it to 3 times per Empower).

Empower also heals for more than twice what Daring does. With 1k healing power you’re looking at 2.5k from Empower and 1.15k from Daring. Detonate an Orb of Light for an additional 1300 every 8-12 seconds. So if you’re rotating between Empower and Orb detonations and Mace every swap cooldown, getting in 2 full mace AA chains (500~ healing each), plus the regen from Mace (255/tick), focus, or another 1500 from detonating Shield of Absorbtion, and well…

Point is, Clerics with only Selfless Daring is not nearly as useful as Clerics with Mace or Staff, to the point of being silly without at least one or the other if not both.

Alrighty. :o

Thanks everyone. So, Foofy … may I call you Foofy? Foofy, what would you suggest for a bunker Greatsword + Sword/Shield Guardian? Also, how much Power/Precision should I aim for to be able to do decent damage?

Bumpity bump. XP

Look at all these kittening kittens battling it out. NSP is clearly superior to the both of you, because we are blue! NOW STAWP.

Gilburt.9146:

The Guardian is fairly boring when it comes to elites, imo. The tomes can be useful, but because they remove your utility skills you are kittened if anyone so much as looks at you menacingly (especially with Tome of Wrath). Because of this I almost always run Renewed Focus, which is useful, but is not as noticeable on the battlefield as other elites such as Entangle, Plague, Dagger Storm, Battle Standard etc. (this is from the perspective of a WvW player, btw)

Since 2 of our 3 elites have auxiliary skillbars that are only really useful for supporting a group of allies we have only one option when we play without at least several other people. That needs to change.

Random question … if you’re taking a camp and you use Renewed Focus, do you stop capturing the camp? Like, you know how if you go into stealth, you can’t capture points? Is it the same with invulnerability?

Greetings, Guardian people! I need help! I’m new to the Guardian, and I’ve created a couple of builds that I’d say are pretty good for me. The problem is, I don’t have experience with said builds. >.>

The builds, unbuffed…
Build #1 – Soldier/Berserker Mix
Build #2 – Soldier/Cleric Mix

Build #1 is a decent hybrid in my opinion, while build #2 screams BUNKER! The problem with build #2 is that I want to be able to kill people 1v1, and it may be too bunkery! I’m not sure, though.

Things I do in WvW:
- Escort and defend yaks. (I’ll be carrying a Staff in my bag for this.)
- Attempt to hold camps, alone.
- Attempt to hold towers, alone or with very few people.
- Smaller group (5 – 15) tower sieges. Most times I’m just a part of the group, but there are times that I lead.

I tend to stay back home when in WvW. I build siege on towers, upgrade stuff, defend camps, etc. I’m always the first to call incs, so I need to stay alive (vs 5+ people) as long as possible in order for the zerg to get to the camp/tower before it’s taken. Also, I plan on getting a commander tag eventually. It’ll be more for defense than offense (so I can finally say “ON MY TAG AT xxx” when a big group rolls through trying to take something important), but I will lead some small-scale attacks, too.

So, which build is best for my needs? If you have any trait, skill, or gear suggestions, feel free to let me know! The only thing I for sure don’t want to change is my Greatsword + Sword/Shield weapon combo. Thanks!!!

P.S. I have no idea what sigils or food buffs to use.

Edit: Oh, and I’ve been doing all of this on a Ranger if that helps at all. There have been so many times when I’ve said either “Dang, I wish I was a Warrior…” or “Dang, I wish I was a Guardian…” Much more of the latter. xD

Kharel Arhew.1437:

When you gear for permanent swiftness via pure boon duration, though, you’re not just gearing for swiftness—you also get a lot of other benefits, including (with shouts) a minimum of 33% uptime on every boon in the game (PvE/WvW—this setup isn’t possible in sPvP).

Consider the build I’ve been tinkering with for post-patch WvW: http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fUAQJARSlYgqCHFyvDfIFSmiVCBtKQQYPwI4rjuKkQA-j0CBYLQYMAEEQkIAJPKrJQCiltht6KalXBRVjIqWXDTIAzLAA-w

Permanent personal swiftness/retaliation/vigor, 66% uptime on group swiftness, 33% personal minimum uptime on every boon in the game. Dodgerolls heal for around 700, permanent vigor/swiftness plus the greatsword make you surprisingly agile in combat, plenty of CC with the hammer and GS pull, 9 condi removals (all AoE) plus the heal signet passive, and surprising durability thanks to high protection uptime and 250 toughness for 10 trait points in Valor.

It truly begins to shine in small group combat, though: most of the benefits you provide are AoE, so one or two of these things in a 5-man mean it’s nearly impossible to CC anyone in the group.

Oooh. That’s pretty cool, though I don’t think I’d enjoy playing it all that much. >.<

I did take some ideas from it though. I came up with a full Berserker build, a Berserker/Soldier hybrid build, and a full Soldier build. (Only the gear is different! Also, that’s without food/oil/sharpening stone buffs.)

I think I might go with the hybrid. See, I want to be able to hold off 5 – 15 people from camps for 30+ seconds, while still doing decent damage. That’s my main goal. Since I can hold off 5 people for almost that long on my Ranger, I figure I can do better on a Guardian! And if I can, then I’ll be very happy! ^-^

What do you think? >_>

Vet.3726:

I also run Knight set and Soldier runes 5/6 of them my stats
3775 Toughness (Food and Trait) have hit 3996 Toughness with warrior
21k HP
1968 Power
Crit and Crit Damage are 30%
Healing Power is 780 (1030)

Edit: 0/5/30/30/5

Say what?

Chase.8415:

In wvwvw you have teammates that could apply swiftness on yourself, so I really don’t see a need in running permenant swiftness.

I’m just used to solo roaming on my Ranger is all. +25% movement speed bonus! :<

The Staff I need for the yaks. xD

Chase.8415:

I don’t think setting your traits and setting your armor for permenant swiftness is a good idea. Unless you plan to solo in PvE, there really is mot much use. In pvp, there’s a lot of boon removal and conditions that running permanent swiftness hurts the team.

Well I forgot to mention that I’m a WvW-er. >__>

I think I’ll just switch to Staff when roaming. I’m working on a GS + Sword/Shield build now. :o

Thanks, foofad! And I just want weapons with fast attack speed because I don’t like to attack slowly. XP

Is there any way to make the Guardian mobile and fast? I have a few questions regarding the subject.

1) Is permaswiftness possible without the Staff?
2) Are there any +X% movement speed buffs?
3) What are the fastest weapons the Guardian has (attack speed)?
4) What are the most mobile weapons the Guardian has?

I’m a Guardian newbie, obviously! Help would be appreciated! XP

Thanks Bushido, I’ll play around with that. :o

ProxyDamage.9826:

Obvious answer is “none of those”. I’d use my build, which is why I made it.

From those, however, let’s see:

Anything with Axes is out, because axes, especially off hand axe, suck dongs in PvP.

That leaves the two GS builds.

Of the two, the second one is a wreck, so, first build, with GS + Longbow, and take those 10 points from Strength and add them to Defense so you can get Cleansing Ire.

I’d also change Heightened Focus for Burst Mastery, despite the GS’s appalling burst, for synergy with CI.

LOL.

Yea, I like my axes, but I definitely feel like the GS is better versus players. I’ll try that out. :P

Assuming you had no other choices, lol.

GS + Rifle or LB

GS + Rifle

A/A + Rifle or LB

A/A + LB #1

A/A + LB #2

I’m indecisive and I need opinions. o__o

Noodica.5428:

Where on earth is BP’s population x)
I’ve noticed a large shortage of Borlis numbers on since reset, especially on EB.
Whyyyyyy

There are more of you?!

Wonderful… xD

Haha, good luck, all! Let’s have some fun this week!

Good luck, all! Let’s hope we get new matchups. Different servers would be nice. xD

Nice! That makes me feel better about it. I do camp flipping and tower defense, and I play 2-5 hours a day, so I guess it’d be safe to expect 3+ levels a day. That works for me!

Thanks! ^-^

Is it just as quick as PvE? Slightly slower? Slightly faster?

I love WvW and I don’t want to leave it to level my Warrior. If I have to leave until level 20 or so, I can take that, but I don’t want to wait till 80! And I don’t want to wait for forever to hit 80!

Veritas.6071:

zTales.4392:

Veritas.6071:

I think your 10/0/20/20/20 is pretty solid. That will give you plenty of flexibility in what weapons you are running, and the tactics tree can help boost your roaming DPS through Empower Allies/Desperate Power. As far as your gear, because you will be lacking crit chance, I would run precision on every piece with exquisite rubies.

Mmhm, that was the plan! Knight’s/Berserker’s mix!

How much precision should I go for? 30%, 35%, 40% minimum?

I’d go as high as you possibly can. Your traits are pretty balanced and give you a little vitality. If it doesn’t have precision, stay away.

*Edit: But I’m biased cause I run nearly 100% glass lol. I found my best defense was doing so much damage people couldn’t be near me… that and ranged 2nd set.

I see. xD

Thanks for the help!

Why is this even turning into an argument? GS builds are so straightforward. :I

GS + Rifle
http://intothemists.com/calc/?build=-s;9;9;9;0JT;0J18-469;429;9;6Fk

GS + X
http://intothemists.com/calc/?build=-s;9;9;9;0TJ;0J18A46;529;9;6FU

HippoLogic.2519:

Its ok I to agree this match as been fun and the last couple of days has really pushed us as a server to work together. All I can say is with all the we had nothing to do with any alliance or there was no alliance NSP guys here I really hope you guys stick around another week. To the IOJ guys better luck next week maybe one day you’ll learn that an alliance really never helps your server in the end and now look the other server refuses to even remotely admit you had anything to do with their victory.

Now, now. Let’s not get hasty.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/wuv/matchups/6-21-DH-IoJ-NSP-1/page/20#post2311079

Veritas.6071:

I think your 10/0/20/20/20 is pretty solid. That will give you plenty of flexibility in what weapons you are running, and the tactics tree can help boost your roaming DPS through Empower Allies/Desperate Power. As far as your gear, because you will be lacking crit chance, I would run precision on every piece with exquisite rubies.

Mmhm, that was the plan! Knight’s/Berserker’s mix!

How much precision should I go for? 30%, 35%, 40% minimum?

Tuluum.9638:

zTales.4392:

It was openly admitted, yes.

By 1 of 12+ active commanders on NSP. Who I’ve only actually seen in-game once because he’s apparently a night commander.

What does that say to you? None of the other commanders agreed to it, as far as I know. Many of them openly stated that they were against it, and the same goes for our normal players. I’m not even a commander and I’ve lead a couple of attacks on IoJ’s towers. xD

You all did a great job, but its a bit disrespectful to say IoJ had nothing to do with the win. I think many on IoJ and DH wanted a nice close match, and that is what we got.

All you have to do is read the thread, and have watched the map during the match.

I never said that. Heck, look at my last post. :P

I’m just saying that the vast majority of NSP either had no clue that this “alliance” was even going on, or they didn’t accept the “alliance” at all. We just focused DH. That’s it. Chances are, the same thing will happen tonight if we get put with a big server. We’re going to focus the bigger server, because they’re the bigger threat. When the other smaller server begins to become stronger, we’ll go for them. That’s normal.

Tuluum.9638:

zTales.4392:

Though, of course, I do agree that IoJ helped beat DH down a lot. They clearly focused DH, as well.

Fair enough, lol.

There wasnt an alliance, just a mutual focusing on one server by the other two. :P

Yep. ‘Cause if IoJ was in the lead, we’d go for them. :P

Tuluum.9638:

zTales.4392:

You’ll only have to worry about IoJ doing that. NSP focused you because you were the biggest threat, not because we were in some alliance. Take it as a compliment. :P

I never said I had an issue with the whole deal, its been pretty clear for the entire match what is happening!

I enjoyed the closer match. There was definitely an alliance though, just read the thread.

And yeah, the pats on the back should be between BOTH NSP and IoJ.. and not just a single server.

Though, of course, I do agree that IoJ helped beat DH down a lot. They clearly focused DH, as well.

HippoLogic.2519:

I cant believe these guys its has been openly admitted look a the forums about both of you crying cause one you you hit the other quit patting yourselves on the back and thank IOJ in all reality they got the poopie end of the stick.

It was openly admitted, yes.

By 1 of 12+ active commanders on NSP. Who I’ve only actually seen in-game once because he’s apparently a night commander.

What does that say to you? None of the other commanders agreed to it, as far as I know. Many of them openly stated that they were against it, and the same goes for our normal players. I’m not even a commander and I’ve lead a couple of attacks on IoJ’s towers. xD

Tuluum.9638:

HippoLogic.2519:

I am really proud of DH this week I think we did pretty well for fighting an enemy twice our size and before you jump in and say IOJ or NSP doesnt have the numbers like DH remember we had both of you hitting us thats 2 servers all the time not to mention IOJ and their night crew. Im really hoping one of your servers get stuck with us this coming reset we saw how things went tue/wed when you didnt have the other server to watch your back.

I agree, I think DH has done pretty well all things considered.

It seems we also have a lot of new players, so hopefully this doesnt scare them away, lol.

Overall, Im not surprised with the outcome of the match at all. Though, I expected DH to do worse than we actually did, so pretty happy with it overall!

As far as getting in another match with one of the servers, theyll just make an alliance again! Regardless, I hope some of our less experienced commanders use this as an opportunity to learn. We have some great commanders, but most rely too much on numbers. In a match like this, we cant do that, so I am hoping we see some innovation in the upcoming weeks.

You’ll only have to worry about IoJ doing that. NSP focused you because you were the biggest threat, not because we were in some alliance. Take it as a compliment. :P

Nikkinella.8254:

Dand.8231:

Warrior is extremely mobile OUTSIDE OF COMBAT, using Sword/Warhorn + GS.

Hammer, Mace, Shield, Rifle, Longbow, Shield, Axe? No mobility.

And in combat? Your mobility drops to slightly above average, which is still solid but not super incredible OP like everyone claims.

You’re not going to catch that thief.
Or get away from him, for that matter.

Isn’t that true for everyone who isn’t another thief though? No one is going to catch a thief unless they mess up. Warrior doesn’t have enough CC abilities to hold them down and make them sit in one spot long enough to kill them. We can burst them down if they mess up and we nail them before they stealth and run away. But for the most part, you’re never gonna catch one who knows what he’s doing. He’ll either run off and bring another thief back with him so they can both gank you, or he’ll run and hide somewhere till he’s healed up, then try to kill you over and over again till he gets the result he wants. We need a shout called “stop hiding coward!” that will do an AoE reveal for 10s.

LOL That’s hilarious. Do it, ANet. xD

Haz.9864:

zTales.4392:

Nikkinella.8254:

The only thing we need to be honest is better condition removal. Aside from that, I don’t really have a problem. Oh and we do have some of the highest mobility in game so guy who said we don’t you’re dead wrong. Thief is first, they can run circles around everyone, then warrior, then ranger, and after that everyone is about equal. Ele used to be after ranger, but got nerfed in the ground and can barely outrun guardians now. If the guardian has a 1 handed sword and that teleport skill, forget it then it’s guardian> ele. Anyway, on topic, we just need much better condition removal. I tried that new trait, fought a necro, and kitten is it useless. It would have worked a lot better if it removed conditions AS you gained adrenaline. What were they thinking seriously? Sure i’ll land one of my obvious telegraphed burst skills and wipe all my conditions out. Not! Remove a condition for each bar of adrenaline you gain. One simple change and that trait will be amazing. And we can spec to be super tanky if we want. You just won’t do as much damage as if you went glass cannon. Which is how it should be. You want to have insane survivability and 1 shot everything too? Might as well roll a thief. I’d rather be balanced rather than see thieves cry more than they do already about every single other class and end up seeing tons of “Nerf Warrior” threads pop up on the thief forum. You want to see us get shafted like rangers were?

Aside from the Greatsword, what are you talking about? My Ranger is way more mobile than my Warrior, for sure.

your ranger is not more mobile. your ranger has more evades.

My Ranger also has a Greatsword 1,100 range leap (9.5s cooldown), two 600 range leaps on the Sword (6.5s cooldown), and perma +25% movement speed. I’d take that over the Warrior’s Greatsword 1,200 range (16s cooldown) and 450 range (8s cooldown), Sword MH 600 range leap (8s cooldown), Shield 300 range (20s cooldown), and +25% movement speed with melee weapons only. :P

Nikkinella.8254:

The only thing we need to be honest is better condition removal. Aside from that, I don’t really have a problem. Oh and we do have some of the highest mobility in game so guy who said we don’t you’re dead wrong. Thief is first, they can run circles around everyone, then warrior, then ranger, and after that everyone is about equal. Ele used to be after ranger, but got nerfed in the ground and can barely outrun guardians now. If the guardian has a 1 handed sword and that teleport skill, forget it then it’s guardian> ele. Anyway, on topic, we just need much better condition removal. I tried that new trait, fought a necro, and kitten is it useless. It would have worked a lot better if it removed conditions AS you gained adrenaline. What were they thinking seriously? Sure i’ll land one of my obvious telegraphed burst skills and wipe all my conditions out. Not! Remove a condition for each bar of adrenaline you gain. One simple change and that trait will be amazing. And we can spec to be super tanky if we want. You just won’t do as much damage as if you went glass cannon. Which is how it should be. You want to have insane survivability and 1 shot everything too? Might as well roll a thief. I’d rather be balanced rather than see thieves cry more than they do already about every single other class and end up seeing tons of “Nerf Warrior” threads pop up on the thief forum. You want to see us get shafted like rangers were?

Aside from the Greatsword, what are you talking about? My Ranger is way more mobile than my Warrior, for sure.

Veritas.6071:

zTales.4392:

Veritas.6071:

Hey there again, zTales. Based off what you’ve said, I would recommend 15 in Defense. This will let you take Dogged March as your major and get you Adrenal Health which will give you regen based on adrenaline level which has good synergy with Berserker’s Power.

Before I say more, what utilities are you running?

It all depends on the situation. Mending, Stomp and Signet of Rage will always be there. Other utilities I’d use normally include: Kick, Banner of Defense, Balanced Stance, Fear Me, and Endure Pain. Now, I’m not sure if I should go 30 into Strength. Physical Training + Berserker’s Power is what made me choose it, but if I only have one physical utility, it may not be worth it. :I

Something like this or maybe something like this?

Stronger Bowstrings can be switched out for Empowered Allies when I’m not using the Longbow. Burning Arrows can be switched out for Desperate Power, Inspiring Banners, Quick Breathing, or Shrug It Off. (Inspiring Banners and/or Quick Breathing for yak escort/assisting allies, Shrug It Off for getting into towers, Desperate Power for defending camps.)

Alternatively, I could put those 10 points in Tactics into Defense instead and take Dogged March.
Help? xD

Lol. I can only see those builds if you use Into the Mists. I can’t access gw2skills… not even through a proxy. Sorry =(

Are you wanting to Adrenaline sit or no?

As far as adrenaline goes, I don’t really care all that much. I’ll work with the build. I do tend to use bursts a lot, though. XP

http://intothemists.com/calc/?build=-s;9;9;9;09-JJJ1;318-39-28;9;6FO
2017 Power, 1682 Precision, 1557 Toughness, 1132 Vitality

http://intothemists.com/calc/?build=-s;9;9;9;0T;0JJ17A;439-28;9;6Fc
2126 Power, 1682 Precision, 1672 Toughness, 1132 Vitality
(Possibly take 10 out of Tactics and put it into Defense for Dogged March.)

Edit: And Sharpened Axes can be switched out for Mobile Strikes or Signet Mastery when not using axes.

Something like this, maybe, if I don’t put 30 in Strength?

Defense Major Trait #2 being Cleansing Ire.

Veritas.6071:

Hey there again, zTales. Based off what you’ve said, I would recommend 15 in Defense. This will let you take Dogged March as your major and get you Adrenal Health which will give you regen based on adrenaline level which has good synergy with Berserker’s Power.

Before I say more, what utilities are you running?

It all depends on the situation. Mending, Stomp and Signet of Rage will always be there. Other utilities I’d use normally include: Kick, Banner of Defense, Balanced Stance, Fear Me, and Endure Pain. Now, I’m not sure if I should go 30 into Strength. Physical Training + Berserker’s Power is what made me choose it, but if I only have one physical utility, it may not be worth it. :I

Something like this or maybe something like this?

Stronger Bowstrings can be switched out for Empowered Allies when I’m not using the Longbow. Burning Arrows can be switched out for Desperate Power, Inspiring Banners, Quick Breathing, or Shrug It Off. (Inspiring Banners and/or Quick Breathing for yak escort/assisting allies, Shrug It Off for getting into towers, Desperate Power for defending camps.)

Alternatively, I could put those 10 points in Tactics into Defense instead and take Dogged March.
Help? xD

Haz.9864:

highest mobility in the game, virtually immune to snares thanks to melandru/lemongrass and dogged march. multiple sources of decent length stability, 2-3 immunities…. gee I wonder how were supposed to survive… whatever shall we do.

Highest mobility in the game? Hah. Hey, Warrior! Meet Ranger and Elementalist!

10s for a 30 minute food buff? That’s crazy. Plus, anyone can use them. Same for Melandru runes.

I WvW a lot. It’s basically all I do in this game, haha. I love playing my Ranger, but something just doesn’t feel right about it. Throughout my WvW career, there have been many times where I’ve either said “Wow, I really wish I was a Warrior.” or “Wow, I really wish I was a Guardian.” I tried both in sPvP, and I hated the Guardian weapons with a passion. Plus, overall, the class didn’t click with me. I played the Warrior again for the first time in months, and I really liked it.

The problem is that I like all of the weapons. Literally all of them! What’s more is that I can find a use for every single one (save offhand Sword, because I’m going Power). My default weaponset? I think I’ll use Mace/Mace, Axe/Axe, or Greatsword + Longbow or Rifle. I’m having trouble making a decision, as you can tell. Now, I can see where the others would be very useful, and that’s another problem. Hammer + Longbow for screwing with large groups in front of towers and at camps, Greatsword for bursting rams, Greatsword for catching people and escaping, Sword/Shield for getting into towers overrun by people, Mace/Warhorn for yak escorting and helping out groups, etc.

Considering I’m going to be using a bunch of different weapons, what’s a good trait setup? I want 30 points in Strength for sure. That way I can take Resorative Strength, Physical Training, and Berserker’s Power. I can switch out Resorative Strength for Death From Above to jump off of towers and knock people down, haha. That’s always fun. Then I want at least 15 points in Discipline for Warrior’s Sprint and Fast Hands. Then I was thinking about 10 points in Tactics for Stronger Bowstrings when I use a Longbow, and Empower Allies when I use something else.

I’m so confused. Does anyone have advice for me? >.>

Also, gear suggestions are appreciated. I was thinking of a Knight’s/Berserker’s or Soldier’s/Berserker’s mix.

MrFluffy.9307:

Spets the MilkBandit.9031:

Natar.3671:

MrFluffy.9307:

Noroz.9527:

torridstoic.7492:

Noroz.9527:

Yeah… about that… If WvW came down to pure skill, IoJ would be in tier 9 EU while NSP would be top 3. Every big server we’ve been up against, we keep wiping you. Over and over again. With fewer numbers.

Yet. You try again.
And again.
And again.

Yeah, eventually you might get our keep or tower, but how does it feel, being 50 taking it from 10 people defending it? (If you’re even able to cap).

If we have close to equal numbers, you guys can’t do jack.

I don’t recall ever being particularly impressed by any players or groups with an [AS] tag. I guess I must have never seen you, because you guys sure sound impressive.

Im not just talking about AS. But yes, we are good. If you haven’t seen us, you just haven’t seen us when we are running structured. We tend to run outside the massive blobs.

But we really don’t care if people notice us or not. Makes it easier for us to get stuff done

NSP by far has the worst roamers I have EVER seen, atleast completely inferior in every aspect to the average IoJ roamer. We completely demolish your zergs with equal numbers in open field. Also about that remark about being able to hold something with 10 people, a keep no less. A keep can hold 1700 supply, now thats more then enough to build 5+ arrow carts for every gate, and conveniently for the red corner overlook is by far the easiest keep to defend with the elevation and the fact that there are only 2 inner gates (blue keep has 3) makes it even more so easier to defend. So its nothing that great to brag about honestly especially since you end up losing the keeps in the end anyways. Now if you were to say wipe a zerg of 50 IoJ’ers (which will never happen since we’re better then you and we can’t field 50 people like NSP can) with 10 people in open field then that would certainly be something to brag about.

TL;DR

IoJ > NSP

Not sure if trolling or rly being ignorant. Cause obviously, u haven’t fought SPCA or XOXO, they are one of the best if not the best roamers around

splt/tm/small man Os, guildless level 2’s with no armour… pretty much anyone.

I’ve never downed so many commanders before until I met ZoS

Hey, at least we don’t run.

MrFluffy.9307:

Noroz.9527:

torridstoic.7492:

Noroz.9527:

Yeah… about that… If WvW came down to pure skill, IoJ would be in tier 9 EU while NSP would be top 3. Every big server we’ve been up against, we keep wiping you. Over and over again. With fewer numbers.

Yet. You try again.
And again.
And again.

Yeah, eventually you might get our keep or tower, but how does it feel, being 50 taking it from 10 people defending it? (If you’re even able to cap).

If we have close to equal numbers, you guys can’t do jack.

I don’t recall ever being particularly impressed by any players or groups with an [AS] tag. I guess I must have never seen you, because you guys sure sound impressive.

Im not just talking about AS. But yes, we are good. If you haven’t seen us, you just haven’t seen us when we are running structured. We tend to run outside the massive blobs.

But we really don’t care if people notice us or not. Makes it easier for us to get stuff done

NSP by far has the worst roamers I have EVER seen, atleast completely inferior in every aspect to the average IoJ roamer. We completely demolish your zergs with equal numbers in open field. Also about that remark about being able to hold something with 10 people, a keep no less. A keep can hold 1700 supply, now thats more then enough to build 5+ arrow carts for every gate, and conveniently for the red corner overlook is by far the easiest keep to defend with the elevation and the fact that there are only 2 inner gates (blue keep has 3) makes it even more so easier to defend. So its nothing that great to brag about honestly especially since you end up losing the keeps in the end anyways. Now if you were to say wipe a zerg of 50 IoJ’ers (which will never happen since we’re better then you and we can’t field 50 people like NSP can) with 10 people in open field then that would certainly be something to brag about.

TL;DR

IoJ > NSP

It’s funny that you say this, as I’m a NSP Ranger and I haven’t lost many 1v1s. I lost a 1v1 to a DH Thief, a DH Mesmer, and an IoJ Guardian. Now, generally, I don’t do well against Mesmers. The Thief and Guardian, though? They outplayed me, no question about it. I’ve won my fair share of 2v1s, as well. Warrior + Ranger, Guardian + Thief, Necro + Ele, etc.

Also, when I’m out in the field, I find that NSP beats IoJ and DH even with smaller numbers. What you’re experiencing is bias towards your own server, for whatever reason. Or maybe you’re in the BLs and it’s different there? I play in EB.

I respect IoJ for what they can do on the field, but I abhor the attitude of many IoJ players. For that reason, I much prefer NSP. Now, that said, I have met people on IoJ that I do like and still keep in touch with. :P

Zee.1294:

Zietlogik.6208:

My warrior feels stronger than ever in both spvp and WvW, you need to adapt

the “o noes the build i was using doesnt work anymore, there cannot possibly be another viable option!” gets old really fast.

there are plenty of options, and yes, I do mean it when i say i feel stronger than before.

Yes they are some good changes but that is not the point…
Why something have to be Nerft in order to promote something ells ?
They should give me the option end is up to me what build to play…not force me to play something i don’t want two ….
So what now ..we should play S/SH or S/M + hammer now ?… cause Anet said so…
Tell me one good reason why Leg Specialist have to have cool down ? Warrior OP perhaps ? Or Axe chain ?

You know what..don’t rely care any more…

Cripple on sword chain, cripple on Savage Leap. Leg Specialist.

GavinGoodrich.1382:

zTales.4392:

Banzie.5248:

I would like to clear some things up with the NSP people. It was not 3 pugs trying to flip our map, It was a 30+ Zerg with Omega golems on our map trying to flip garrison, Which we almost lost. NSP is the backstabber here, Not IoJ.

This is where you people are getting ridiculous.

It’s NOT backstabbing. The vast majority of NSP commanders either A] aren’t aware of the IoJ/NSP “alliance,” or B] never agreed to the “alliance” in the first place. As far as I can tell, Rob is the only NSP commander who agreed to it at all.

It’s not backstabbing if there was never an agreement in the first place. Most of NSP doesn’t care for politics.

I’d disagree with you there. Why? When we realized we were fighting each other again, right out the door we were all pretty much flinging handbags at each other, throwing chairs, old saloon brawl kinda stuff. DH was playing the piano at the time while happily zerging away at our under-manned, paper stuff.

Shortly after, Bird offers a truce, with conditions (just SM on EB) which IOJ pretty much publicly agreed to on the forums. Corners got hit on EB, but nobody really seemed to care, so nobody said anything

For about two whole weekend days, IOJ and NSP’s borderlands would only go green, and only for a short time while DH would get pushed out. DH had enough real estate to cover anyway. Aside from maybe a tower and your usual camp flip loops, those 2 BL’s were PACIFIED.

Then “someone” threw the first punch, stepped on a twig, whatever, and we’re back to the saloon brawl, while DH goes back to the piano and bartends to flying patrons, who use said drinks to smash opposing server’s heads.

You can’t tell me an entire saturday/sunday of two mostly peaceful borderlands meant NSP didn’t care about the “treaty” or whatever. It shows a lot louder than what you guys say on the forums.

edit to bri you just mentioned you guys are welcome to do what you want, so you can’t exactly ask our guys to back off the forums if they wanna troll you, now can you

Oh, but I can. Now please, stop. You’re just being annoying and closed-minded.

We were focusing DH because we expected them to come on top. They have more people and better coverage. It has kitten to do with any “alliance.”

GavinGoodrich.1382:

zTales.4392:

Banzie.5248:

I would like to clear some things up with the NSP people. It was not 3 pugs trying to flip our map, It was a 30+ Zerg with Omega golems on our map trying to flip garrison, Which we almost lost. NSP is the backstabber here, Not IoJ.

This is where you people are getting ridiculous.

It’s NOT backstabbing. The vast majority of NSP commanders either A] aren’t aware of the IoJ/NSP “alliance,” or B] never agreed to the “alliance” in the first place. As far as I can tell, Rob is the only NSP commander who agreed to it at all.

It’s not backstabbing if there was never an agreement in the first place. Most of NSP doesn’t care for politics.

K. Back to NSP’s BL we-a-go!

Lol. Have fun. It was going to happen eventually, after much complaining of “backstabbing.”

Just don’t give your players liberty to say “lololol We’re better than you!” We had a tough enough time defending our BL + EB last night because we really don’t have many people online. Like, ever. Remember that having more people on your server doesn’t make you better. That’s all I ask. Because if I see that you’re bragging, I’ll buy myself a freaking tag and things won’t be so pretty anymore.