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How did you even know FEAR said that? Must be a spy.. :P
http://fearguildwars2.enjin.com/home/m/10439127/article/1632082
BG doesn’t PvDoor, according to BG posters. Oh wait..
I don’t think anyone’s seriously claimed that. All T1 servers (BG, JQ, SoR) get to PvDoor.
Ahem.. zepp.
JQ is not here to counter BGs SEA. :/
WARD and ACO moving to Sanctum of Rall is another reason to Waha keep focusing SoR…
Sooner than you might think, but not nearly as soon as we would like. That’s as much as I can say.
Hi Devon,
Is ANET working on any kind of GvG map or GvG system?
Thank you.
thanks TW for the bags tonight.
I heard that a certain guild leader got mad because his guild lost two keeps. Stay classy bro, it’s just a game, you don’t need to say kitten to the enemy guild just because you are losing. ^.^
Well HB, we went to look for you instead, and credit where its due, you give us a epic fight in bay just now on SOR BL:. I am sure you will agree you outnumbered us there easily in that fight. Looking forward to more of it. /salute
EDIT: awwwww you jumped borders
we didnt spank you that hard did we?
wtf
SoR doesn’t have SEA coverage.
Now can you guys stop crying about your SEA timezone pls? ^.^
You were saying?
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SoR was down to one keep. According to the resident PvD expert zepp, BG has now reached PvD territory as the “below 2 keeps” threshold has been breached during the SEA/Oceanic time period. This clearly points to a unbalanced tier and any wins forthright by BG should now be abolished and excluded.
The asian guilds on SoR aren’t playing due lag issues:
My guild members from Taiwan, Hong Kong, Singapore, Malaysia, a few members from Malaysia had the lag problem, but usually lasts only 1-2 day.
Only Hong Kong members have lagged more than a week,not only skills lag on battle but also their screen displays game was delay 10s ~ 1min.
I thought there are some network problems in Hong Kong, it’s happened before.
Glory was show his moon walk to me past week every day, and he only can listen our fight voice in RC and jealous to us can play game.
I have to explain a bit.
When the lag is unaccepted, I wont start the raid.
There was a exceptional lag for some Hong Kong players in these few weeks, at least half of our members, including me cannot do a fight. There are at least 7sec+ delay during a fight (NOT ONLY in SoR BL and its spike lag, not the skill lag that everyone suffers), which make us lose the battle we should win, and make me extremely angry and shout on the TSWe are by no means a occasional wvw guild, we stack up in our prime time every day, but bad things just happen to us again and again.
Tonight I even told the oceanic commanders to make tons of preparation for the coming SEA prime time. I was ready for a epic battle and tons of fun. But talking about the lag, what can I do?
Anyway, until Anet (or may be our ISP) fix it up, we will remain our absence.
[NYS]Glory, a laggy and disappointed commander
So NOW you can say: JQ and BG are doing PvDoor against SoR. But it’s temporary, your server hasn’t a poor SEA coverage, those asian guilds will come back.
Btw, these lag issues are interfering the balance in this match…
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My guild members from Taiwan, Hong Kong, Singapore, Malaysia, a few members from Malaysia had the lag problem, but usually lasts only 1-2 day.
Only Hong Kong members have lagged more than a week,not only skills lag on battle but also their screen displays game was delay 10s ~ 1min.
I thought there are some network problems in Hong Kong, it’s happened before.
Glory was show his moon walk to me past week every day, and he only can listen our fight voice in RC and jealous to us can play game.
I have to explain a bit.
When the lag is unaccepted, I wont start the raid.
There was a exceptional lag for some Hong Kong players in these few weeks, at least half of our members, including me cannot do a fight. There are at least 7sec+ delay during a fight (NOT ONLY in SoR BL and its spike lag, not the skill lag that everyone suffers), which make us lose the battle we should win, and make me extremely angry and shout on the TSWe are by no means a occasional wvw guild, we stack up in our prime time every day, but bad things just happen to us again and again.
Tonight I even told the oceanic commanders to make tons of preparation for the coming SEA prime time. I was ready for a epic battle and tons of fun. But talking about the lag, what can I do?
Anyway, until Anet (or may be our ISP) fix it up, we will remain our absence.
[NYS]Glory, a laggy and disappointed commander
Sad to see it happening. I’m from south america and we are having lag issues too. :/
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“Its similar to Eyefinity.”
HAHAHA, my god…
Your logic of “having 1 keep doesn’t mean there’s PvDoor” isn’t any better. Oh Yeah, you said you could prove that we were faking our coverage right? Prove it.
2~3 keeps + some towers.
learn to read pls
why are you so mad? just because TW lost to Agg? haha
You should to learn to lose.
Ohh, okay. That means there’s no PvDoor whatsoever. :P I suppose EU is no PvDoor for SoR too then. Dumb logic. I’m not even in TW.
man you really should to learn to read
but you are so mad because TW lost… It’s just a game, man ~~
Instead of going out of point, didn’t you say you could prove easily SoR was faking it’s poor SEA coverage? Prove it then.
I already did. ^.^
Again: you should to learn to read.
“Its similar to Eyefinity.”
HAHAHA, my god…
Your logic of “having 1 keep doesn’t mean there’s PvDoor” isn’t any better. Oh Yeah, you said you could prove that we were faking our coverage right? Prove it.
2~3 keeps + some towers.
learn to read pls
why are you so mad? just because TW lost to Agg? haha
You should to learn to lose.
“Its similar to Eyefinity.”
HAHAHA, my god…
Yes i understand what they did with the pots. But saying that you want to keep tighter trains means your MA should only have to use. not your entire group., only reason you are using them now is for the distinct visual advantage that it creates for some people not being able to see what class you are. I agree with why you have to use them,
Also that was the first gvg you had with choo. we have had a prior GvG so assuming rules would have stayed the same. (on a side note why did you request no banners from warrior? its a class ability, not that we would need one i was just curious as to why lol)
The war banners was an obvious troll.
Our casters don’t use Ghost tonic. It’s impossible, it comes off during combat. Everyone knows this.
Also asurians are also the hardest class too telegraph skills with as of their size. Which is why most spvpers are using an asurian model, because you can’t see what skills they’re casting clearly.I guess there is only 1 way to tell the differance from a class….asurian or norn, it isnt that hard. Even with the pots its not hard for me, but for others it could create confusion.
No matter the case, if you feel your group needs to use pots to create some sort of cosmic connection between melee train and MA, more power too you guys and good luck. It was unfortunate that we were not able to meet in the middle to make this happen. Hopefully, calmer heads will prevale next time and we can meet and maybe we can get this settled on the gvg field.
After watching the video, yes, the visual advantage is apparent.
Wearing a tonic skin is like wearing the same coloured jersey on a soccer field – easy identification. While the others are wearing a mish mash of colours, prone to confusing themselves even.
In GvG terms, it translates into the ease of consolidating your team members, and differentiating who are your enemies. Perhaps as people earlier stated, masking the class of the person?
The AC mage tonic looks visually striking so it is vastly easier to spot your team mates to squeeze a tight train.
For fairness, either have everyone use tonics, or strike it off completely.
^ Its unfair to your opponents, [Agg]. Its like you’re using an “exploit” to gain an advantage over your enemies.
Forgive me if I’m wrong here but doesn’t everyone have access to the tonic? Isn’t it just as ridiculous to say food is an unfair advantage?
this ^^
Everyone can use the tonic.
PvDoor? BG ticking 350 ppt for 1 hour, while SoR euro coverage can tick 500 ppt for 3~4 hours.
Everybody knows that some asian guilds in SoR aren’t playing today (maybe due to the new update), so don’t try to make a fake lack of coverage.
It’s not a fake lack of coverage.
SEA primetime yesterday:
“If you want to troll at least troll smartly.”
Are you seriously going to start cherry picking days here and there now to try and prove a point? Something happening “every once in a while” by no means is a standard. I can do it too. I provided a screen shot, it must be true!!!!
Thanks for prove my point. The biggest difference was SoR 145, BG 325. 145 ppt means at least 2~3 keeps and some towers. If you guys can hold some keeps and towers, BG doesn’t PvDoor. ^.^
Try again little troll
Using that logic, the same can be said during the EU time slot. As long as the opponent holds a keep or two, you are not doing any sort of PvDoor. Case in point, since BG and JQ both had a keep (and clearly more than that even), they are not suffering from PvDoor. Thank you zepp for helping us all see the light of day and now giving us a definition on what PvDoor really is.
the same imagem but – zoom:
ticking much more ppt than BG and JQ during euro timezone and then in NA primetime ticking much more because BG and JQ had T1 keeps while SoR had T3 keeps. 9 hours ticking much more ppt and you guys say that SoR isn’t stacked and don’t PvDoor and blablabla
BG also ticked more than SoR and JQ for 9 hours in SEA this week, but the difference in ppt wasn’t too big.
Nice try, little troll, keep trying.
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PvDoor? BG ticking 350 ppt for 1 hour, while SoR euro coverage can tick 500 ppt for 3~4 hours.
Everybody knows that some asian guilds in SoR aren’t playing today (maybe due to the new update), so don’t try to make a fake lack of coverage.
It’s not a fake lack of coverage.
SEA primetime yesterday:
“If you want to troll at least troll smartly.”
Are you seriously going to start cherry picking days here and there now to try and prove a point? Something happening “every once in a while” by no means is a standard. I can do it too. I provided a screen shot, it must be true!!!!
Thanks for prove my point. The biggest difference was SoR 145, BG 325. 145 ppt means at least 2~3 keeps and some towers. If you guys can hold some keeps and towers, BG doesn’t PvDoor. ^.^
Try again little troll
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now BG has lost all right to whine about PVD..
just because SoR gave up at SEA today?
PvDoor? BG ticking 350 ppt for 1 hour, while SoR euro coverage can tick 500 ppt for 3~4 hours.
Everybody knows that some asian guilds in SoR aren’t playing today (maybe due to the new update), so don’t try to make a fake lack of coverage.
It’s not a fake lack of coverage.
SEA primetime yesterday:
“If you want to troll at least troll smartly.”
PvDoor? BG ticking 350 ppt for 1 hour, while SoR euro coverage can tick 500 ppt for 3~4 hours.
Everybody knows that some asian guilds in SoR aren’t playing today (maybe due to the new update), so don’t try to make a fake lack of coverage.
From what i see is the only way BG/JQ can keep up with SOR is to double team the kitten out and still lose.
must suck not being SOR
The only thing that sucks is SoR imbalancing T1 and calling the match-up “Even”.
^ ^ ^
PvDoor o’clock
When other servers drop everything and run to engage PvE, and your server continue to field forces and carry out its task – it’s called discipline. An unfamiliar concept for someone, I know.
When other servers don’t have european coverage and your server have, it’s called PvDoor. A unfamiliar concept for someone, i know.
Pariah, too late. SoR already unbalanced T1 when they recruited [KISS]. In my opinion, your point is valid but only about NA/SEA/Oceanic guilds. All T1 server don’t need more NA/SEA/Oceanic guilds, so i think if any guild from those timezones is looking for a new home, please, DON’T CHOICE SoR, BG or JQ!! However, JQ and BG are really needing european guilds (specially JQ) to balance T1 again.
To the players from euro tiers, i’ll explain the situation in T1 NA: SoR has 2 big european guilds. BG has 2 small european guilds (and these guilds don’t play everyday) and JQ doesn’t have euro guilds. So SoR can do like Vizunah does in T1 euro: PvDoor. But in the “NA T1” case, SoR is doing PvDoor during euro primetime.
Ahh, the SOR golem rush of Garrison water gate. Must be 10 o’clock EU time.
Preceeded by the predictable “SOR takes NW tower while BG hits NE tower”. I am not even suggesting that you guys coordinate, it is just such an daily occurance that BG knows when SOR will keep JQ busy.
And happening simultaneous with the equivalent SOR attack on EB keep. Do you guys actually give it a countdown in TS, or does it just happen because so many log on at the same time?
Finally, sorry to the dancing SOR in our garri, you do not get epic defenses everyday. Sometimes, hitting an outmanned team just turns out to be autoattacking doors for 2 minutes.
- Xeeron
SoR’s coverage across all BLs is pretty tight.
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soo 6pm est is pvdoor o’clock ?
Clearly.
u guys keep changing the timezones for PVDOor, u need to make up ur minds
plzz give us ur list of rules and overall timeszones of all guilds, so we can play when and how u want us to
well, aren’t you having fun? haha, you guys created this problem when you guys brought another european guild to SoR. Now have fun fighting against doors during euro primetime ^.^
FUNFACTS:
There’s 70 players on TW’s roster. Some are legacy members who don’t actually play.
Our record online at one time is 34.
TW’s Perceived presence:Don’t you mean 15?
He means 5,5.
I like how BG complains about PvD considering PvD is the only reason why they are here.
In fact, every server in this matchup…in this entire game for that matter, has PvD’d
Every server in T1 has PvD to get to where they are
BG and their ~10 weeks straight of PvD against SoR in T2
JQ and their ~7? weeks straight of PvD against SoR, BG, SoS in T1
SoR and their PvD during Euro timeslot for ~6? weeksEvery server in T1 PvDs daily
SoR – Euro
BG – Oceanic
JQ – SeaNobody here. Not JQ, not SoR, not BG has legitimate PvD complaints. We’ve all done it and we all know it. This is the state of T1. There’s no real timezone outside of NA where everyone can get together and actually compete. It’s more like timezone X logs on, ticks at 400ppt, logs off just in time for the enemy to log on and tick at 400ppt.
And for what it’s worth, don’t take this as a “trolling” attempt but there isn’t a timezone out there where BG is in last place in terms of coverage. You guys still have the second strongest EU, NA, and SEA, and the strongest OCEANIC and are able to maintain at least your shard during all timezones outside EU…most of the time
BG is fighting against a large SoR zerg right now (oceanic primetime).
And JQ doesn’t PvDoor at SEA, BG and SoR has large zergs to fight against them at this timezone.
BG has multiple zergs in Oceanic.
CA & PUGS -> 1 medium zerg
MERC -> 1 large zerg
XF & WM -> 1 medium zergSoR has 1 zerg in Oceanic.
HIRE -> 1 large (occasionally even bigger than MERC) zerg.HIRE just hops a lot.
CA has 15 ppl at oceanic timezone and they always play on EB;
XF and WM aren’t oceanics, they play at SEA primetime.
Anyways, SoR has enough people (sometimes more people than BG) at oceanic primetime to defend SoR BL and attack BG. Both servers has equal numbers at this timezone, so say that BG does PvDoor at oceanic primetime doesn’t make any sense.
Its amazing how much you guys can cry on these forums. Do you never have anything of value to say?
yes we have: SoR needs more european guilds
I like how BG complains about PvD considering PvD is the only reason why they are here.
In fact, every server in this matchup…in this entire game for that matter, has PvD’d
Every server in T1 has PvD to get to where they are
BG and their ~10 weeks straight of PvD against SoR in T2
JQ and their ~7? weeks straight of PvD against SoR, BG, SoS in T1
SoR and their PvD during Euro timeslot for ~6? weeksEvery server in T1 PvDs daily
SoR – Euro
BG – Oceanic
JQ – SeaNobody here. Not JQ, not SoR, not BG has legitimate PvD complaints. We’ve all done it and we all know it. This is the state of T1. There’s no real timezone outside of NA where everyone can get together and actually compete. It’s more like timezone X logs on, ticks at 400ppt, logs off just in time for the enemy to log on and tick at 400ppt.
And for what it’s worth, don’t take this as a “trolling” attempt but there isn’t a timezone out there where BG is in last place in terms of coverage. You guys still have the second strongest EU, NA, and SEA, and the strongest OCEANIC and are able to maintain at least your shard during all timezones outside EU…most of the time
BG is fighting against a large SoR zerg right now (oceanic primetime).
And JQ doesn’t PvDoor at SEA, BG and SoR has large zergs to fight against them at this timezone.
omg lets just drop it cause this stuff goes in circles if u wanna play the who to blame game about stacking it goes like this
HOD-JQ-SBI-SOS-JQ-BG-SOR
HOD before the game was released the “titan alliance” set about to absorb guilds to cover all timezones for wvw pretty much making it so noone had a shot against them
JQ got alot of xfers to them when HOD broke up
SBI then recruited a few more guilds and there sea pushed well into EU
SOS then got alot of the bg transfers that left the server after there first drop outa t1 mix that with the ET guilds and Some hod FOE from et PRX hod
JQ then went ona mass recruit to beat sos
BG followed there example and mass recruited that with them having the only eu plus late sea pushing the eu time zone
SOR then followed to Counter BG’s sea/eu coverage
and that covers t1, altho for the most part t1 for the pass month has been the closes its ever been
now cut the bullkitten crying out JQ u have had ur shot twice now to change the state of t1 and u didnt. BG ur Sea along with ur EU pushed into that eu timzone ticking for 400-500 many times and now ur upset ppl recruit to counter ur PUshes ???
T1 has always been a tier of recruit to counter wut the other server is doing. JQ recruited to counter sos. BG then recruited SEA to counter JQ and seeing Bg had EU it made them Crazy strong. SOR then countered this by recruiting EU coverage
my guess is that in the coming weeks/months JQ or bg will mass recruit to counter SOR or one will implode(which i doubt) and TC or DB will get the bulk of there numbers creating another t1 server
Ok but you forgot to say that SoR needs more european guilds.
It’s only ok when BG is ticking at 450+ during SEA while SoR is ticking at 50ppt.
Any other time BG isn’t ticking at highest ppt, it’s PvDoor.
I play SEA every day on my server and the ppt is never extremely unbalanced. At least not since we used to lead tier 1. Don’t try to defend what is obviously unbalanced.
That’s quite a statement considering what I stated happened today. SoR was ticking a 50 for quite a while, while BG was ticking over 400.
He’s correct, we tick at 450+ in Oceanic, not SEA, they are different timezones by 2-3 hours.
bg ticked 350~400 ppt, not 500 ppt like SoR is ticking right now.
and 1 hour before Oceanic, BG was ticking 50 ppt.
Duh, It’s only ok when BG is ticking at 450+ during SEA while SoR is ticking at 50ppt.
Any other time BG isn’t ticking at highest ppt, it’s PvDoor.
nice troll, bro
But your server needs more european guilds, pls recruit more.
nice pvdoor, SoR
But please, recruit more, you guys need more european guilds.
Goodbye, SoR. We needed to put you in your place.
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sor = 50 ppt
SoR loves BG. They got mad because they lost 11 weeks fighting against BG in T2. hahaha
But it’s ok, SoR will never win 11 consecutive matches. I doubt. ^.^
Goodbye, BG. We needed to put you in your place.
Why good bye? We are here.
Btw, nice coverage SoR, gg.
Seriously TW? There’s 15 vH, 20something SG, and like 20somthing pugs against 50 TW(L) and pugs, and the supposed #1 best NA guild or something has to build field siege to fight us? Cmon, show some pride.
lol and why are you surprised?
btw, TW isn’t the best NA guild. They are nothing when they don’t have 1 billion pugs following them.
How can you say that “SoR doesn’t have anywhere near the Oceanic strength that BG does”? SoR has HIRE, a large oceanic guild.
I mean that MERC is the stronger guild imo.
Ok. ^.^
No. MERC fields more numbers than HIRE. They’re not necessarily stronger.
It depends. Sometimes MERC fields more numbers, sometimes HIRE fields more numbers and sometimes they field equal numbers.
The number of PUGs is the deciding factor, SoR has those by the bucketloads when they are winning and the same can be said of BG when they are winning.
When i say numbers, i mean the size of the zerg including pugs.
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How can you say that “SoR doesn’t have anywhere near the Oceanic strength that BG does”? SoR has HIRE, a large oceanic guild.
I mean that MERC is the stronger guild imo.
Ok. ^.^
No. MERC fields more numbers than HIRE. They’re not necessarily stronger.
It depends. Sometimes MERC fields more numbers, sometimes HIRE fields more numbers and sometimes they field equal numbers.
How can you say that “SoR doesn’t have anywhere near the Oceanic strength that BG does”? SoR has HIRE, a large oceanic guild.
I mean that MERC is the stronger guild imo.
Ok. ^.^
lol, there is a meta called GvG’s, those consist of 2 guilds both equal numbers fighting each other with one winner. BT is more then welcome to challenge themselves to fight TW and prove my statement wrong. Until then BT will only ever be classified as a Full BL guild in my book.
BT doesn’t need to prove what is already proved. ~~
Yes, we know BT can only full BL blob
We can say the same about TW. ~~
^
lol, there is a meta called GvG’s, those consist of 2 guilds both equal numbers fighting each other with one winner. BT is more then welcome to challenge themselves to fight TW and prove my statement wrong. Until then BT will only ever be classified as a Full BL guild in my book.
BT doesn’t need to prove what is already proved. ~~
Hmm, pretty lackluster attempt at defending Bay on SoR BL BG. If you plan to push out as many times as you did, you actually have to be able to kill something. Thanks for the bags BT and Icoa.
Kinda ironic to see a TW member trying to troll BT.
Not trolling when its the truth, tell your GM thanks for the bags!
I’m not from BT.
Yeah, i always see the truth when BT and TW has equal numbers. hahaha
To be fair to BT, they are a good guild but only when they have the full BL on their kitten as well.
We can say the same about TW. ~~
BT is a large guild, TW is a small/medium guild. They will never have the same numbers.
BT is a large guild? BT puts 30 people on the field, bro. 40 on the weekends.
Has TW and BT ever gvg against each other?
They should if they haven’t, that would be fun to watch I think.
BT doesn’t play GvGs…
Btw, we can agree that BT and TW are the best guilds in NA servers. =P
Hmm, pretty lackluster attempt at defending Bay on SoR BL BG. If you plan to push out as many times as you did, you actually have to be able to kill something. Thanks for the bags BT and Icoa.
Kinda ironic to see a TW member trying to troll BT.
Not trolling when its the truth, tell your GM thanks for the bags!
I’m not from BT.
Yeah, i always see the truth when BT and TW has equal numbers. hahaha
To be fair to BT, they are a good guild but only when they have the full BL on their kitten as well.
We can say the same about TW. ~~
Hmm, pretty lackluster attempt at defending Bay on SoR BL BG. If you plan to push out as many times as you did, you actually have to be able to kill something. Thanks for the bags BT and Icoa.
Kinda ironic to see a TW member trying to troll BT.
BG ticked 400 ppt against IRON + KISS. SoR is ticking 400ppt playing against Doors.
You basically just said that BG is an EU server. How did that happen?
I basically said that HB and RK can tick 400 ppt playing against IRON and KISS, while IRON and KISS can tick the same 400 ppt playing against doors.
:)
Btw: “BG is an EU server in NA servers”. Yes, i agree. Was BG who ticked 400 ppt playing against doors during EU primetime today.
oh wait
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As much as I dislike SoR right now. Past 3 days have been BG doing this nonsense. You two servers need to go make your own tier. Yesterday, BG ticked almost 400 for 12 hours. It was silly.
BG ticked 400 ppt against IRON + KISS.
SoR is ticking 400ppt playing against Doors.
:)
I’m sure that EB zerg and BG BL zergs were just doors. Guess that doors just can’t fight back hard enough.
80 × 30 = PvDoor
As much as I dislike SoR right now. Past 3 days have been BG doing this nonsense. You two servers need to go make your own tier. Yesterday, BG ticked almost 400 for 12 hours. It was silly.
BG ticked 400 ppt against IRON + KISS.
SoR is ticking 400ppt playing against Doors.
:)
Please choose Dragonbrand, Tarnished Coast or Fort Aspenwood.
You can see BG, SoR and JQ are very close, we have strengths and weaknesses that balance each other out.
If you really want to make an impact on NA and care about overall even competition then choose DB, TC or FA. If your numbers are as they say they are, it will hopefully create a 4th server of equal coverage to BG, SoR and JQ and bring about true and real competition.
If you go to SoR, BG or JQ….you may as well expect PvDoor on a stacked server. Don’t fall for nonsense from trolls, this is fact.
this ^
Please, don’t choose JQ, BG or SoR.
1) Transfer to JQ
2) Start 2×1 against BG to help your own server (SoR).
GJ TW!