Guild Wars 2

bloodletting wolf.2837:

You apparently only skim the post and ignore what you don’t want to hear. I have already stated that I would be cool with gem store mounts the way they are now or mounts the way they were implemented in Gw1. Speed is one of the factors in class balancing so using the fact that some classes don’t have that boost is just silly. In addition, you never did address the fact that a signet is ONE SKILL. What you are talking about (using it like an engie kit) is 5 skills in 1 utility slot.

I must have missed something, because I played GW1 for 6 years, and I never saw a single mount.

Mounts have NEVER been apart of Guild Wars Lore. Why ruin it all with mounts?

Everytime I see a thread that is mount related I instantly think “This person must have came from WoW or TERA.”

Chasind.3128:

Mounts have NEVER been apart of Guild Wars Lore. Why ruin it all with mounts?

Everytime I see a thread that is mount related I instantly think “This person must have came from WoW or TERA.”

I give you Dagnar Stonepate http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Dagnar_Stonepate

Big Part of the story and he is riding a drake.

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Banished_Dream_Rider
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Necrid_Horseman
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Summit_Beastmaster
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Summit_Giant_Herder
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Dolyak_Master
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Stone_Summit_Heretic
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Siege_Devourer
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Junundu

Every time I see a post where the person says they Never had mounts in GW lore I think they must have played another game all together.

I must have missed something, because I played GW1 for 6 years, and I never saw a single mount.[/quote]

Siege devourer in EotN and the giant worms in Night fall.

Gummy.4278:

Chasind.3128:

Mounts have NEVER been apart of Guild Wars Lore. Why ruin it all with mounts?

Everytime I see a thread that is mount related I instantly think “This person must have came from WoW or TERA.”

I give you Dagnar Stonepate http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Dagnar_Stonepate

Big Part of the story and he is riding a drake.

Ah but’s not domesticated which makes a difference .

“The Stone Summit have a penchant for slavery. They can often be found riding giants and other beasts bound with all manner of manacles and restraining devices. They don’t bother to tame their mounts, rather preferring to simply chain the beasts and overpower them, making them bend to their will rather than becoming accustomed to their new role”

Even the Wurm was technically beaten into submission by the player rather than domesticated .

Adine.2184:

Gummy.4278:

Chasind.3128:

Mounts have NEVER been apart of Guild Wars Lore. Why ruin it all with mounts?

Everytime I see a thread that is mount related I instantly think “This person must have came from WoW or TERA.”

I give you Dagnar Stonepate http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Dagnar_Stonepate

Big Part of the story and he is riding a drake.

Ah but’s not domesticated which makes a difference .

“The Stone Summit have a penchant for slavery. They can often be found riding giants and other beasts bound with all manner of manacles and restraining devices. They don’t bother to tame their mounts, rather preferring to simply chain the beasts and overpower them, making them bend to their will rather than becoming accustomed to their new role”

Even the Wurm was technically beaten into submission by the player rather than domesticated .

Even Horses have to be broken. http://www.wikihow.com/Break-a-Horse Which in turn is the process of taming…now when I was younger I did some breaking which we added another step in which when it was time to ride the horse we lead the horse into water up to the shoulder of the horse and mounted them if they had any spunk in them they would slowly wear themselves out because of the resistance the water created.
Now I would like to see mechanical mounts like a “don’t want to use the word Motorcycle” But Kitten Yeah a big Motorcycle!!!! No need to Domesticate or Break.

I will give ya that the Stone Summit did do that and the Beasts where fearful of pain, however the Dwarves did Domesticate the Dolyaks http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Dolyak

I want to ride a yellow moa!

I would want mounts like the broom, that gave a 25% boost in speed, non stackable, so my mes can be fast and cute.

SnowHawk.3615:

Mounts = Lag city for more loading
NO THANKS GW aint never been about smelly old mounts

GO play some other MMO if you want that

Mounts do not cause lag. At least know what you are talking about.

Flying mounts would be nice for jumping puzzles. I’m particular found of flying monkeys. Consider the potential mount-spawning animations.

Mad Queen Malafide.7512:

Mounts do not cause lag. At least know what you are talking about.

Mounts require separate 3D models, textures and animations, and if you really believe that the on-screen rendering of another fifty models and textures, complete with additional particle effects, idle animations and shadows on top of the hundred or so player characters will introduce no additional lag or longer loading times, then you either have a super-fast PC with a large SSD, or you really haven’t a clue what you’re talking about.

Okuza.5210:

Flying mounts would be nice for jumping puzzles. I’m particular found of flying monkeys. Consider the potential mount-spawning animations.

Exactly why there should be no flying mounts of any description. Other than cheating and griefing, what possible use could they serve?

uknortherner.2670:

Mounts require separate 3D models, textures and animations, and if you really believe that the on-screen rendering of another fifty models and textures, complete with additional particle effects, idle animations and shadows on top of the hundred or so player characters will introduce no additional lag

Stop right there. That’s not lag. Look up what lag is. Words have meanings.

uknortherner.2670:

or longer loading times, then you either have a super-fast PC with a large SSD, or you really haven’t a clue what you’re talking about.

Longer loading times are a possibility. But in that case, they could never add new content at all. Because every Living Story update adds new textures and models for the game to load. Not really something you should be worrying about. It’s a bad argument.

Mad Queen Malafide.7512:

uknortherner.2670:

Mounts require separate 3D models, textures and animations, and if you really believe that the on-screen rendering of another fifty models and textures, complete with additional particle effects, idle animations and shadows on top of the hundred or so player characters will introduce no additional lag

Stop right there. That’s not lag. Look up what lag is. Words have meanings.

uknortherner.2670:

or longer loading times, then you either have a super-fast PC with a large SSD, or you really haven’t a clue what you’re talking about.

Longer loading times are a possibility. But in that case, they could never add new content at all. Because every Living Story update adds new textures and models for the game to load. Not really something you should be worrying about. It’s a bad argument.

First off all it is called lag, there are two kinds. Network lag and graphical-lag, this is clearly a matter off graphical lag. This kind off lag is already a big huge issue, specially in LA for the lower systems (but still very much above the minimum specs). All models in highly populated area’s will increase this lag. I do agree that all content added will increase it. BUT This purely cosmetic being forced down a few people who just dont give up!!

As you can see in every mount topic, the big majority does not need it, does not want it and find it totally crap!

So you want me to get more grpahical lag so you can brag about on your my lil pony horse??? No thank you!!

mercury ranique.2170:

First off all it is called lag, there are two kinds. Network lag and graphical-lag, this is clearly a matter off graphical lag.

There is no such thing as graphical lag. Lag is a latency delay (it’s an abbreviation). It’s a delay between sending packets of information between the client and the server. If graphics take longer to load in the game, that has nothing to do with your connection (the models and textures are already installed on your pc). If your frame rate is poor, again this has nothing to with your connection.

mercury ranique.2170:

This kind off lag is already a big huge issue, specially in LA for the lower systems (but still very much above the minimum specs). All models in highly populated area’s will increase this lag. I do agree that all content added will increase it. BUT This purely cosmetic being forced down a few people who just dont give up!!

LA has performance issues that are mostly related to the size of the zone, and possibly the amount of textures and models that need to load. This is not lag. It’s performance. Anet is working on improving the performance of the overall game constantly.

Any new content added to the game, such as new weapons, minipets, holiday decorations, all those provide extra content for the game to load. Are you against new content being added to the game? Because that’s basically what mounts would be, just one extra model and a few animations extra to load. It’s not any different from any other content really. These are just very poor arguments against mounts.

Mad Queen Malafide.7512:

mercury ranique.2170:

First off all it is called lag, there are two kinds. Network lag and graphical-lag, this is clearly a matter off graphical lag.

There is no such thing as graphical lag. Lag is a latency delay (it’s an abbreviation). It’s a delay between sending packets of information between the client and the server. If graphics take longer to load in the game, that has nothing to do with your connection (the models and textures are already installed on your pc). If your frame rate is poor, again this has nothing to with your connection.

mercury ranique.2170:

This kind off lag is already a big huge issue, specially in LA for the lower systems (but still very much above the minimum specs). All models in highly populated area’s will increase this lag. I do agree that all content added will increase it. BUT This purely cosmetic being forced down a few people who just dont give up!!

LA has performance issues that are mostly related to the size of the zone, and possibly the amount of textures and models that need to load. This is not lag. It’s performance. Anet is working on improving the performance of the overall game constantly.

Any new content added to the game, such as new weapons, minipets, holiday decorations, all those provide extra content for the game to load. Are you against new content being added to the game?

No but I am against getting more laggy cause ofyour stupid bragging on a stupid show-off mount. And there is such a thing as graphical lag, but guess you dont know what your talking bout and think every lousy argument rectify’s you wanting to be a show off. But it is like it is, a small maffia is haunting this suggestion forum for something clearly 99.9% off the people doesnt want and would cause massive discomfort to all those others. But you want to press it on. Wish you where more respectfull, letting more serious and better supported suggestions get more attention instead off trying to constantly attacking and being disrespectfull.

I have a very serious suggestion. Due to the way some people are misbehaving here and being disrespectfull, I would suggest to make talk bout mounts against the forum rules.

mercury ranique.2170:

No but I am against getting more laggy cause ofyour stupid bragging on a stupid show-off mount. And there is such a thing as graphical lag, but guess you dont know what your talking bout

-SIGH-

Look up what the word LAG means. Seriously! There is no such thing as graphical lag. There’s a latency between sending packets of information (called lag), there’s framerate issues (problems with what your pc can display on the screen simultaneously) and there’s loading times (your pc having to unpack the archives installed on your pc, containing models and textures). You are making a bit of a fool of yourself.

mercury ranique.2170:

and think every lousy argument rectify’s you wanting to be a show off. But it is like it is, a small maffia is haunting this suggestion forum for something clearly 99.9% off the people doesnt want and would cause massive discomfort to all those others. But you want to press it on. Wish you where more respectfull, letting more serious and better supported suggestions get more attention instead off trying to constantly attacking and being disrespectfull.

How about providing a good argument against mounts, instead of making a flawed argument based on a misunderstanding of what lag is?

mercury ranique.2170:

I have a very serious suggestion. Due to the way some people are misbehaving here and being disrespectfull, I would suggest to make talk bout mounts against the forum rules.

Would you like to make discussion as a whole on this discussion forum against the rules as well, while you’re at it?

This is what impact mounts will realistically have on your game’s performance:

Depending on how many different mounts are in a town, new textures and animations might need to be loaded. This could increase the loading times for areas that contain large player populations. When ever possible, Anet tries to reuse existing textures and animation sets. So mounts that use the same animation sets as a Dolyak, would not add extra loading times for the animations in Lion’s Arch (because LA already contains Dolyaks, thus they share the same set).

There will be more models to render, especially in cities with large player populations. This could lower your framerate, but most likely the game will hide any models that consume too much processor power (the game already does this for player models). Or if you have a super pc, you won’t notice anything at all. So if you have an older pc, you’ll either see no mounts until you get really close to them, or they are all replaced by default models (just like players are right now).

Mad Queen Malafide.7512:

Look up what the word LAG means. Seriously! There is no such thing as graphical lag.

nVidia, you know, those people who specialise in graphics cards, beg to differ:

Graphics Lag

The granddaddy of all lag, this is the result of a general slowdown in graphics, and is a common occurrence for any gamer. Basically, your system just can’t produce enough Frames Per Second (FPS) to make everything feel nice and smooth. Anytime graphics lag happens, you’ll typically get a reduction in the responsiveness of your controls. Your actions take a fraction longer to be reflected in the graphics on-screen because it takes your system a bit more time to create each new frame of graphics and send it to your monitor.

http://www.geforce.co.uk/whats-new/guides/how-to-get-rid-of-lag-guide#1

Forcing the card to draw a load of shiny fluff mounts and sparkly special effects for them WILL result in graphics lag. Oh, and as an aside, GW2 runs on DX9 which means that if you use shadows, then you need a fast CPU to drive them because the DX9 toolset doesn’t make use of the GPU for that. Result? Input lag, in exchange for a load of useless items the majority of gamers couldn’t care less about.

That’s simply FPS issues, and they even say as much:

“Basically, your system just can’t produce enough Frames Per Second (FPS) to make everything feel nice and smooth.”

So it’s not LAG, it’s framerate. The moment people start using these words in the wrong context, it just becomes a mess, and NVIDIA is also at fault for using the word incorrectly. Yes you heard it right, NVIDIA is using the word lag incorrectly in that quote. Lag literally means a latency gap. A delay between input and reaction across a network. The reason the term graphics-lag is wrong, is because it’s client side, and thus there is no gap. There is no gap between sending and receiving the input, but rather a simply stutter in the refresh rate of the graphics. So it’s not lag.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lag

Some of you might be wondering why I make such a big deal out of this. Well that’s because the entire argument falls apart when you consider the fact that mounts do not create a delay in input between sending commands to the server, and receiving a response. In fact, the effect on your frame rate of mounts will probably also be barely noticeable. The GW2 engine doesn’t render the entire city when you’re in LA, only segments of it. So any slow down in LA is mostly a lack of optimization of the individual segments that make up the zone, rather than the players and mounts that are in it.

Now it is true that the more players are moving around in a town and are being rendered on screen, the more lag you experience. This is because the server has to send more information. But a player on top of a mount is still one player. The game does not have to track an extra creature moving around, and thus does not create extra lag.

So if your argument is: Mounts lower my framerate! Then you might as well be against adding any new content. And then the whole argument falls apart.

Zacchary.6183:

If players wanted mounts in the first place, players would have bought the broom and drill enough to show that those things are desirable. In turn, arenanet would make more to sell like the infinite tools.

However, that never happened.

Now even though this horse has been beaten way more than the thieves horse and the same arguments have been thrown around for possibly (and literally) the 1000th time I have a question to ask:

What in blue blazes makes you think arenanet is going to change the whole game just so arenanet could make mounts for a minority.

There are at least a couple of flaws I see with this.

First, you think that the number of Broom and Drill sales is exactly equal to the demand for mounts in general? I don’t even know how to explain why this is wrong.

Second, why would ANET have to change the entire game? If the Broom exists, to your example, why could there not be other mounts that function in the exact same way? or in a slightly different way that would require small changes?

Third, where are you getting your statistics around people who want mounts being the “minority”? If this is the 1000th thread, doesn’t that lend some credibility to the fact that maybe there is more demand than you think?

dbgamer.3407:

Zacchary.6183:

If players wanted mounts in the first place, players would have bought the broom and drill enough to show that those things are desirable. In turn, arenanet would make more to sell like the infinite tools.

However, that never happened.

Now even though this horse has been beaten way more than the thieves horse and the same arguments have been thrown around for possibly (and literally) the 1000th time I have a question to ask:

What in blue blazes makes you think arenanet is going to change the whole game just so arenanet could make mounts for a minority.

There are at least a couple of flaws I see with this.

First, you think that the number of Broom and Drill sales is exactly equal to the demand for mounts in general? I don’t even know how to explain why this is wrong.

Second, why would ANET have to change the entire game? If the Broom exists, to your example, why could there not be other mounts that function in the exact same way? or in a slightly different way that would require small changes?

Third, where are you getting your statistics around people who want mounts being the “minority”? If this is the 1000th thread, doesn’t that lend some credibility to the fact that maybe there is more demand than you think?

If you read through the 50 threads on this subject you would know that mounts implemented the way they are in the gem store isn’t good enough for most mount lovers. They want the over the top speed buffs, flying etc. Also if you were to go through all of those threads and really look and keep track of the names you would see that it’s only about 25% that want mounts. Thank you for necroing this thread before some other game refugee that has played for a week decided they needed another thread on the subject.

I’d love to see those changes/additions: get rid of the zones, make one world, gives a lot of immersion (hey, we are in 2013…) and give us mounts, they don’t need to be flying imo. I love it in every (MMO-)RPG.

dbgamer.3407:

Zacchary.6183:

If players wanted mounts in the first place, players would have bought the broom and drill enough to show that those things are desirable. In turn, arenanet would make more to sell like the infinite tools.

However, that never happened.

Now even though this horse has been beaten way more than the thieves horse and the same arguments have been thrown around for possibly (and literally) the 1000th time I have a question to ask:

What in blue blazes makes you think arenanet is going to change the whole game just so arenanet could make mounts for a minority.

There are at least a couple of flaws I see with this.

First, you think that the number of Broom and Drill sales is exactly equal to the demand for mounts in general? I don’t even know how to explain why this is wrong.

Second, why would ANET have to change the entire game? If the Broom exists, to your example, why could there not be other mounts that function in the exact same way? or in a slightly different way that would require small changes?

Third, where are you getting your statistics around people who want mounts being the “minority”? If this is the 1000th thread, doesn’t that lend some credibility to the fact that maybe there is more demand than you think?

Broom and drill offers no advantages. However people are asking for advantages to these and that is a nogo because it would require a redesign so these mounts don’t turn into pure screen clutter.

And that last statement is called Appealing to the masses.

Zacchary.6183:

Broom and drill offers no advantages. However people are asking for advantages to these and that is a nogo because it would require a redesign so these mounts don’t turn into pure screen clutter.

And that last statement is called Appealing to the masses.

I think those that are asking for speed increase and flying mounts are ambitious in their ask, which is why I’ll say I agree with the arguments against them, even though I personally would want a speed buff mount.

All I’m saying is that there are ways to implement mounts that don’t go to either extreme – the Broom vs. the Flying turbo rocket ship – that could appeal to both sides. Also, people throw around stats about the “majority of players” or “about 25% of players” when they (and no one on these forums) really have any way to back these stats up. The most vocal people on the threads do not account for what the “majority” of the player base wants.

To your point about appealing to the masses: I’ve already disagreed with what I think peoples’ view of what “the masses” is, but I don’t think that everything that is implemented needs to appeal to the majority of players, but rather some things can appeal to a subset of players, so long as it doesn’t encroach on the majority. A good example of this would be changes made to things like tpvp or specific content for end-game players. There are changes made all the time to this content that enhances the gameplay of a smaller subset of the player base, but doesn’t (necessarily) negatively affect the majority.

I really wish the few people that wanted mounts would just play a game with mounts. Why should a small very vocal group of players want to jack the game up for every one else – that’s how we ended up with ascended gear, Tequatl, and everything else in this game that wasn’t there at launch that sucks.

bloodletting wolf.2837:

I really wish the few people that wanted mounts would just play a game with mounts. Why should a small very vocal group of players want to jack the game up for every one else – that’s how we ended up with ascended gear, Tequatl, and everything else in this game that wasn’t there at launch that sucks.

No, we ended up with ascended gear, because GW2 has a very limited crafting system that you easily max out. There’s not that much end game gear to work towards, and that is why we received ascended gear.

We ended up with Tequatl, because the dragons were way too weak on release. Especially the Shatterer and Tequatl were simply a matter of standing to the side, and spamming attacks. Tequatl was no challenge what so ever, and there was no way to fail his event. There were a lot of players that complained about how easy the dragons were. That is why it was made more challenging, with more mechanics and a high possibility for failure.

bloodletting wolf.2837:

I really wish the few people that wanted mounts would just play a game with mounts. Why should a small very vocal group of players want to jack the game up for every one else – that’s how we ended up with ascended gear, Tequatl, and everything else in this game that wasn’t there at launch that sucks.

Now let’s us get some things right- Ascended armor was promised ages ago, and have been a plan since the release of fractels. Second of Tequatl the sunless encounter buff, is a level any world boss should have to make the fights more interesting and rewarding.

But Back to topics as for Mounts.
1. There is one mount in Guild wars two the flying broom.
2. The reason Why I as an individual Player do not like the idea of the traditional mounts is, Would ruin the explore experience.
3. I would be able to see mounts in this game if they;
a. Did not grand any speed buff, would not be flying, and would be able to swim on the surface of water, not below it.
b. That Players would be able to disable the appearance of a mount on their screen.
c. Mounts would be counted as a sort of weapon with the appearance of a mount.
d. That they would be simple looking and nothing too flashy.
e. Mounts would be obtained fairly easy, and not be something only for elite players.
4. Further more I would love to see any arguments of how mounts would be a good contribution to the game and not just make it another mainstream game.
5. I would also like both sides of this matter to handle this a lot more mature than they currently are, it is not exactly fair to demand the mount-worshipers to act maturely about it and not do it yourself.
6. I am sure ’’if’’ Mounts do arrive to this game, it will not be in the fashion the mount-worshipers wanted it, just my guess.
7. Remember that this forum is open to all, so please once again act maturely and try to see it from the opposite sides view.
8. To those who wonder what I mean with ’’Mainstream’’ I shall gladly telling you: Making the game follow the dance of any other game.
9. Before anyone tries to mention it, yes I do probably sound provoking and a smarty-pants, but ask yourself this-am I wrong in my statements you dislike?
10. I decided to mention some idea as ground rules for this discussion about mounts so it does not turn into a flaming feast.
1# Use only important or valid topics about the issue in a mature and none assaulting way.
2# No one should tell others to go away with their idea, as people do have the right on these forums to speak their mind as long as they are mature about it.
3# Flaming and Immaturity should be seen as bad to use in arguments.
4# If you are going to bring statements about Dev citates please bring along a link, to show that you speak the utter truth and that you are not full of air.
5# Remember that all got a right to be here.
6# If people misspell a word or a sentence, I probably have along the way?
Please help them with a small hint or correct, but no mean talk to them.
7# Remember words can hurt too, and our minds are different.
8#

11. This is how far I got, if people like these rules I hope they’ll use them
Now let’s have a nice ongoing discussion and still remain as just players and not enemies.

Gummy.4278:

Ayrilana.1396:

Then just hop onto a centaur’s back and go for a ride. I believe a dev stated awhile back that they have no plans to implement mounts.

I personally don’t want them because they’re screen clutter.

I know your statement is wrong as well. No Dev has ever taken the stance that there are no plans or that there will never be mounts. What has been said is that if mounts are introduced they will not be traditional speed mounts that you find in other games and it will have a style about them that makes them uniquely GW. If you follow that link to the other page you will see that link that I posted.

Many times it has been suggested that the mounts get a option for any other person in game that does not want to see another persons mount that they can click that option and turn off all of them.

My statement is not wrong; you’re misreading it. Nowhere did I state that having no plans equates to not ever. I’ve seen that video before and it was what I was referring to.

I also want to point out that me saying them having no plans and you saying “if mounts were introduced” is the same thing. The keyword in your statement being if which is not a yes. Having plans means they’re in the process of developing and implementing it into the game.

Want mounts? Go play WoW/Rift/Terra.

An endless Horde of hyperactive immature players with land, sea and air mounts poluting the horizon, no thx. There are other games for that.

Drowsy.9241:

<snip>

To summarize my post:
1. No Flying mounts
2. Mounts shouldn’t offer unfair advantages over players
3. Mounts should have a bonus movement speed of 25%, the same as many classes utility passives, and Runes that can be bought.
4. Mounts Should Have Bag Slots that players can buy for them.
5. Mounts should not be implemented in WvW and sPvP.

<snip>

Points 3 and 4 contradict point 2.

Letting them have bag slots is definitely an unfair advantage. That lets people who have mounts have more bag slots than other players. IF that was the case, the only way to make that fair would be to make sure that everyone got a mount at character creation.

Also, only half of the professions have utility passives that give a bonus movement speed of 25%.

And honestly, without points 3 and 4, what’s the use of having them?

I think any and all mounts should be like the broom (or tunneler?). Maybe we should have different mounts like them. I would love a horse. But I know that is super-unlikely.

A siege devourer for a mission would be quite awesome, though.

Flying mounts, no way. ground mounts for sexiness a little speed burst YES!!, but not usable in spvp and Limited speed, like 30-50% no more, so WvW wont be ruined.

I say bring on the ground and flying mounts. At least 200% speed boost. Give them special skills and buffs, so what if it makes the game easier let people who want them have some fun. No one is forcing you to use mounts if you dont like em.

I would suggest giving mounts their own skillbar, including a short speed boost which can be used to move faster than normal players. This would also allow combat on the mount to be possible. I would probably restrict the use of mounts, so they can’t be used in dungeons, and can’t jump very high. This would eliminate them from jumping puzzles as well. The health of the mount is the player’s health. If it runs out, the mount is automatically unsummoned, and the player is downed like usual. And no flying mounts, unless they simply hover above the ground slightly.

Being able to fight on a mount that grants speed just feels too OP in a PvE enviroment. If you just want to move through someplace quickly, then what’s wrong with an alternative of having a consumable item that grants an environmental weapon, with a spammable speed boost? I’m sure there’s already something like that in the game somewhere.

GW2 has to have a good balance reason to not include a mechanic for ‘long duration speed boost’ on top of combat. If they wanted they could just do that with food. And we have food that grants movement speed, but they’re just based on kills for activation. http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Food#Swiftness And it’s food, so you can use this in WvW.

The only un-countered argument supporting mounts, is cosmetic. That means no speed boost or extra utilities, and you just look cool while fighting something. I personally don’t like the idea of seeing players on mounts out in the open world. Maybe….just maybe…a cosmetic mount for commanders in WvW while they lead their zerg to victory….that would be kinda cool. :P

Dalent.9358:

Want mounts? Go play nearly every RPG.

fixed that :-)

Really, why all this hate against mounts? Be cause they are in other games? Remember it is pretty usual that you have a horse or other riding possibilities in most RPGs. Stop associating it only with WoW.

It would be a great addition. Another nice thing we could collect and much more less useless than the minis.

if we consider broom and drill as mounts then yeah why not? Don’t really need a speed buff although I think it would be kinda nice. Maybe only use able OOC in WvW?

Problem is Drill and Broom are niche not everyone wants to tunnel, and not everyone wants a dumb grin while riding a broom, that when switching back to normal armor clips most things.

A-net as made the statement that it’s to fast to get where your going so mounts would be redundant (this is speaking even if they gave a speed buff) But for exploration and playing around this is a non factor even more so when you consider Mounts are just swag, and people will pay for good quality swag.

Not everyone wants a Broom, or a Drill, or a Pirate outfit where the only thing they like is the toy sword. But I’m sure people would go out of the way for some sort of creature they can go around on as long as it looks and feels good, and doesn’t break game play.

TL;DR: People want mounts in some way. Drill and Broom are cool but niche. Make GOOD mounts not, Don’t make TRH (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCjuFpQ3EeA)

If mounts were added to this game, they would probably cost 3000 gems… i say leave them out.

GrayFox.9824:

If mounts were added to this game, they would probably cost 3000 gems… i say leave them out.

I have faith A-net is smart enough to not make 40$ mounts… I could see 1000 forcing people to get 1600 which is 20 bucks for the instant and a lot more reasonable.

if there are 5 mounts and you get 2 for 40 bucks you get the 3rd free… with 200 gems left over meaning for 50 (another 800 gems) you get 4 it’s fair imo.

And even if people only get one they will sell like hot cakes.

YELLOW MOA!(still waiting for someone to tell me to go play final fantasy…)

I want to ride around on an Ettin’s shoulder

riding on the shoulders of giants aye?

Cole Eyre.8471:

I want to ride around on an Ettin’s shoulder

I want a Ettin or some other larger than human creature to push my toon while it rides in a Wheelbarrow.

GW2 Is very good and innovative game. They can solve this problem easily. Implement ground mounts, those who don’t want to have them, wont get them and those who want them, will get them. Just that simple.

There just plenty of selfish people who don’t want mounts them selves and want to force every one else not to have them. Since game play wont be changed for you with mounts or without mounts, how about we (people who want them) get them and you (those who don’t want them) will not get them.

i want mount even if it’s just cosmetic without any speed enhancements.

This thread again?

Anything beyond cosmetics gets a overwhelming NO from me.

EnemyCrusher, i offer mounts as cosmetics. I want to graciously travel on a wolf or some thing. don’t need speed or combat abilities. Just to look sexy.

if i had a horse that i could ride on,anywhere,that has about 100% more speed…why in the world would i ever be using my swiftness boon form my weapons

why would i be using runes of the traveler

why would i be using signets that grant me 25% faster movement speed?

why would i spend 2S on a WP if i can ride the hell out of my cool mount trough the beautiful sceenery that this game provides?

QueenHysteria.1084:

How about putting mounts in this freaking game for once.

MOUNTS, BRILLIANT!!!!!!!!

How did no one think of this before. I mean who wants to spend all of their time in game playing it, when we can get rid of our fast travel system and us an archaic and slow form of travel and ride moronic looking creatures.

Anet, please, please hire this guy as a consultant, OF WHAT NOT TO DO.

I’d love to travel through the Shiverpeaks on the back of a Dolyak. It doesn’t have to be fast. It could be slow as heck for all I care. But there’s just something very immersive about traveling on the back of a pack animal.

coglin.1867:

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Anet, please, please hire this guy as a consultant, OF WHAT NOT TO DO.

Yes, lets resort to mocking people we disagree with, instead of mature discussion. I’m sure that is a great idea.

There is one and only one way I would think about mounts in this game, and that would be if they were purely cosmetic and offered no advantages what so ever… such as the broom and sonic drill.

Asmodeius.2751:

GW2 Is very good and innovative game. They can solve this problem easily. Implement ground mounts, those who don’t want to have them, wont get them and those who want them, will get them. Just that simple.

You’re contradicting yourself there. You say that GW2 is a good and innovative game, yet in the same breath, you are asking ANet to introduce the least innovative mechanic that would be completely out of place in the game? The Gem Store already has the flying broom – there’s your mount.