Guild Wars 2

Direngrey.1247:

Please, I would love mounts, they make your character unique and stand out and make traveling easier if you don’t want to pay for waypoints, it gives a nice incentive too.

I’d put money on it that it wouldn’t be “cheaper” if they add mounts I bet that it would be similar to Forsaken World with limited time use, expensive to obtain and expensive to maintain.. In other words cheaper to use WP system, more mundane game play, welcome to B2P/F2P, either splurge on RMT or suffer the grind.

no to mounts. yuck. they’re always silly and gimmicky and the game begins to work like a freeway, with zero player interaction.

“no to mounts. yuck. they’re always silly and gimmicky and the game begins to work like a freeway, with zero player interaction.”

I’ll go along with gimmicky, but the second one… 3 day head start to now has been zero player interaction. I don’t see how mounts would change the way events work, well other than people getting there faster, saving the village, or whatever and then running off. That is exactly what it is now, mounts wouldn’t change a thing.

I lean towards compromise on this one.

They already have speed boosters that increase your run speed by x amount for a certain amount of time. How hard would it be to create a speed booster that increased your run speed for x amount of time and gives you the appearance of riding a dolyak, for example, while out of combat?

Essentially it would just be the speed booster combined with the effects of a tonic while out of combat.

We already have perma-switness in game (well at least some classes have it). So how mounts will change anything?

Rpgtabbycat.5869:

I lean towards compromise on this one.

They already have speed boosters that increase your run speed by x amount for a certain amount of time. How hard would it be to create a speed booster that increased your run speed for x amount of time and gives you the appearance of riding a dolyak, for example, while out of combat?

You mean like pay to win runs peed via cash shop? No thanks.

I mean if you are going through the trouble of adding a speed booster for pvp, and a cosmedic mount to that, why not just add a mount?

imo mounts are a bad idea, though I think they could work with restrictions.

Can only be used on paths/roads, going off path will automatically dismount player. If road or path ends you will also be dismounted. Be cool if there was a large plain where you could be mounted, and your mount has it’s own skills such as speed boost, block and joust. XD

I don’t know, ANet is trying to be a mold breaker, but a lot of the features, or lack of features is either extremely out dated, or already done better by another game.

I hope they do something soon, the population seems to shrink every day, events are harder to complete than ever and events that were once popular are ruined by DR’s – Slowly getting pushed back to a game I’ve already played 6 years, but lets me play for a long as I wish without punishment.

Mounts are great. I don’t understand why few players dislike mounts. Mounts are just like cosmetic gears in guild wars 2. It’s just like collectables and be proud to own a rare “mount”. We farm and make efforts for better looking stuffs.

All I could think of is that those few anti-mount players are afraid of competiting for “better/exclusive” mounts. They don’t like the idea of other players being more “special” than them. Seriously, if you’re feeling that way, why play a mmo?

They already throw “gear stat progressions” out of the window especially for the minority of you who’re fearful of competition. That’s enough. If everything is equal, players won’t feel special among each other. There won’t be anything to play for because everyone wants to be equal with people who make efforts. Cosmetic gears doesn’t make a good end-game. There should be more. Like mounts and housings. Something that can grow/progress, compete, compare and feel special about it. The game must appeal to both casual and very active players. Players who give more time spend in-game must be given some rewards.

I am also going to say yes to mounts. if given a choice between instantly zooming from one way point to another and using a mount. I will always go with mount.

Naoko.7096:

Mounts are great. I don’t understand why few players dislike mounts. Mounts are just like cosmetic gears in guild wars 2. It’s just like collectables and be proud to own a rare “mount”. We farm and make efforts for better looking stuffs.

All I could think of is that those few anti-mount players are afraid of competiting for “better/exclusive” mounts. They don’t like the idea of other players being more “special” than them. Seriously, if you’re feeling that way, why play a mmo?

They already throw “gear stat progressions” out of the window especially for the minority of you who’re fearful of competition. That’s enough. If everything is equal, players won’t feel special among each other. There won’t be anything to play for because everyone wants to be equal with people who make efforts. Cosmetic gears doesn’t make a good end-game. There should be more. Like mounts and housings. Something that can grow/progress, compete, compare and feel special about it. The game must appeal to both casual and very active players. Players who give more time spend in-game must be given some rewards.

Housing is coming—and will be outta the way. Mounts? Generally aren’t. They clog up streets, hog resources (which is something GW2 already suffers from with loading times for player models), and are often abused to the point of irritation by players “looking for a laugh”.

To me, having gear comparisons for your achievements in the game is enough—that takes time. That shows your dedication. That shows you’re invested.

Just as having a mount would.

housing…. i’d take mounts any day of the week.

All you people saying NO to mounts are the downfall of the future of GW2. The only reason why you don’t want mounts is because Wow has them and you do or say anything to try and be different even if it means giving up something that is pretty much a standard in MMOs now. When people are asking for mounts they are actually suggesting things that create a better experience to the game. Anyone saying “they are not needed” is just holding the game back because that statement brings no contribution to expanding the game in anyway. People talk about this game having an epic feeling without mounts? There is nothing epic if you don’t have mounts. Nobody ever asked to remove waypoints so whats the problem? You dont want a mount then dont ride one.. Its better to add things rather then lose players.

For those saying "if you want mounts go play Wow are killing the game. You do realize that a high population of GW2’s player base is from Wow don’t you? You push that high percentage out of the game then the more your going to have trouble finding groups and the game just eventually becomes completely dead.

Is it not enough to dislike mounts because they’re a lorebreaking, unnecessary waste of resources? No? It has to be ‘because WoW has them’.

Quite frankly, I hate them. I don’t want the landscape cluttered, the lore cannibalised or Anets resources drained on this. It’s not worth it and it never will be.

mounts are not “lorebreaking”. what a terrible argument. they can be so easily incorporated it takes 2 seconds to do.

Safer Saviour.9685:

Is it not enough to dislike mounts because they’re a lorebreaking, unnecessary waste of resources? No? It has to be ‘because WoW has them’.

Quite frankly, I hate them. I don’t want the landscape cluttered, the lore cannibalised or Anets resources drained on this. It’s not worth it and it never will be.

Nothing would be cluttered, are you saying there is not enough room on the map for mounts? They just need to disable them in the cities.

You talk about Anets resources being drained? are you saying that they are small time? It is very worth it and it is a smart move in my opinion. Many people aren’t on this forum to back this up. Don’t be surprised how many people wanted them when the player base starts to drop.

Mounts would be a lot of fun, but if they were to be implemented, I think mounted combat should also be possible.

Currently though the size of the explorables, the waypoints and map travel, and Asura gates, make mounts a bit redundant.

Mounts are a very bad idea. There’s no history of them in the lore. No place for them in the game. No logical reason to have them.

If you’re asking for them, you can always go play WoW to have your mounts. We don’t want you here anyway.

I think that’s a little bit harsh. Lorewise we’ve had necrid horsemen in GW1, and Stone Summit riding Dolyaks. Mounts have always been in Guild Wars, but only for enemies.

Would they work in GW2? Depends on how they would be implemented.

Nels the Cornwhisperer.8025:

Mounts are a very bad idea. There’s no history of them in the lore. No place for them in the game. No logical reason to have them.

If you’re asking for them, you can always go play WoW to have your mounts. We don’t want you here anyway.

Your the perfect example of what kills the game, you can’t think outside of the box of how they can be placed in the game, and telling people we don’t want you here anyways sounds pretty immature especially saying that to people who are contributing ideas while you contribute nothing but negativity on players.

camoflaugz.5031:

Safer Saviour.9685:

Is it not enough to dislike mounts because they’re a lorebreaking, unnecessary waste of resources? No? It has to be ‘because WoW has them’.

Quite frankly, I hate them. I don’t want the landscape cluttered, the lore cannibalised or Anets resources drained on this. It’s not worth it and it never will be.

Nothing would be cluttered, are you saying there is not enough room on the map for mounts? They just need to disable them in the cities.

You talk about Anets resources being drained? are you saying that they are small time? It is very worth it and it is a smart move in my opinion. Many people aren’t on this forum to back this up. Don’t be surprised how many people wanted them when the player base starts to drop.

Cities, towns, villages, open workd ruins, graveyards, housing estates and, of course, jumping puzzles. There’s no place for mounts. No need either. Waypoints are part of the lore, personal mounts /aren’t/.

As many people as there are who want mounts, there are just as many who don’t. Furthermore, of the faction that does, there are further divisions as to what their benefits should be (aesthetic, speedboosts, mounted combat). No matter how they impliment them, there’s no way to please the majority.

Mad Queen Malafide.7512:

I think that’s a little bit harsh. Lorewise we’ve had necrid horsemen in GW1, and Stone Summit riding Dolyaks. Mounts have always been in Guild Wars, but only for enemies.

The horses are exctinct and the dolyak were only ever warbeasts, not a means of transportation.

Safer Saviour.9685:

camoflaugz.5031:

Safer Saviour.9685:

Is it not enough to dislike mounts because they’re a lorebreaking, unnecessary waste of resources? No? It has to be ‘because WoW has them’.

Quite frankly, I hate them. I don’t want the landscape cluttered, the lore cannibalised or Anets resources drained on this. It’s not worth it and it never will be.

Nothing would be cluttered, are you saying there is not enough room on the map for mounts? They just need to disable them in the cities.

You talk about Anets resources being drained? are you saying that they are small time? It is very worth it and it is a smart move in my opinion. Many people aren’t on this forum to back this up. Don’t be surprised how many people wanted them when the player base starts to drop.

Cities, towns, villages, open workd ruins, graveyards, housing estates and, of course, jumping puzzles. There’s no place for mounts. No need either. Waypoints are part of the lore, personal mounts /aren’t/.

As many people as there are who want mounts, there are just as many who don’t. Furthermore, of the faction that does, there are further divisions as to what their benefits should be (aesthetic, speedboosts, mounted combat). No matter how they impliment them, there’s no way to please the majority.

Mad Queen Malafide.7512:

I think that’s a little bit harsh. Lorewise we’ve had necrid horsemen in GW1, and Stone Summit riding Dolyaks. Mounts have always been in Guild Wars, but only for enemies.

The horses are exctinct and the dolyak were only ever warbeasts, not a means of transportation.

Now don’t get me wrong I really like the waypoints alot and I’m not against them in anyway and I would totally be turned off if it were to ever be removed from the game. I just think that with this game being guildwars 2 they can expand the lore and somehow get them introduced in the world. I don’t think it would be hard to create a story that links to it. I think that if they have any plans on making this game bigger they are going to have to add more to the lore anyways. If they don’t introduce mounts I feel that the game will just feel small in comparison to other MMOs. They got alot right in this game and there is so much potential for so much more to be added. I think that people know that Anet got much of the game right and it is solid in its current state the problem is that it seems like there are just some things that feel like the game is missing something.

Only on the condition that my Asura can ride his best Charr friend around like a horse.

That’s the only mount I’ll ever need.

camoflaugz.5031:

Your the perfect example of what kills the game, you can’t think outside of the box of how they can be placed in the game, and telling people we don’t want you here anyways sounds pretty immature especially saying that to people who are contributing ideas while you contribute nothing but negativity on players.

Mounts would kill the game. You’ve already got free travel to any city in the game and to travel from the two farthest points on the map costs less than 3 silver. That very small gold sink does it’s job to keep inflation from being worse than it could be. If you want special looking items for vanity purposes, get a legendary weapon, some cool armor, dyes, and well… Miniatures. If you want big miniatures, ask yourself why that seems wierd. If you still want mounts, you really should go someplace else. Much like the Druid class suggestion, if you want WoW content, go there, because we really like our game, and would rather see A-net do good.

sounds like you just don’t like WoW. if you don’t want anything that WoW has we might as well just erase the whole game.

The game will feel bigger once we get Cantha and Elona back on the map – continents the size of the area we have now. We don’t need mounts to enjoy that and there’s no reason to add them beyond ‘because a few people want them’. For many of us, the lack of mounts is refreshing. Bad experiences in other games, the lore of GW2, the availability of waypoints have all turned people away from them.

When it comes to the lore, it’s tricky to expand in terms of mounts because we already have so many avenues of transportation – many which aren’t featured in other MMOs. Airships, tanks and submarines are present, as are huge charr war machines, mobile golems and the like. There is no reason for a single individual to stray from what they have already and much less for them to turn to, say, a dolyak for transportation.

since perma-swiftness is easily achieved in PvE.

put mounts as +33% speed.
skill bar locked and replace with mount skills when mounted , which are all fancy mount animations.
not available in WvW.

gives players a new comestic item to gun for as well.

Nels the Cornwhisperer.8025:

camoflaugz.5031:

Your the perfect example of what kills the game, you can’t think outside of the box of how they can be placed in the game, and telling people we don’t want you here anyways sounds pretty immature especially saying that to people who are contributing ideas while you contribute nothing but negativity on players.

Mounts would kill the game. You’ve already got free travel to any city in the game and to travel from the two farthest points on the map costs less than 3 silver. That very small gold sink does it’s job to keep inflation from being worse than it could be. If you want special looking items for vanity purposes, get a legendary weapon, some cool armor, dyes, and well… Miniatures. If you want big miniatures, ask yourself why that seems wierd. If you still want mounts, you really should go someplace else. Much like the Druid class suggestion, if you want WoW content, go there, because we really like our game, and would rather see A-net do good.

Who says that anybody wants a mount for vanity purposes? I do like the waypoints but I also want mounts in the game. If you wanted Anet to do good then you would understand that people want this. Nobody told you not to use the waypoints anymore and nobody asked for them to be removed. You actually dont want Anet to do well thats not your goal. Your goal is to be as anti wow as possible. " We really like our game" that sounds kinda weird man….

camoflaugz.5031:

Who says that anybody wants a mount for vanity purposes? I do like the waypoints but I also want mounts in the game. If you wanted Anet to do good then you would understand that people want this. Nobody told you not to use the waypoints anymore and nobody asked for them to be removed. You actually dont want Anet to do well thats not your goal. Your goal is to be as anti wow as possible. " We really like our game" that sounds kinda weird man….

You’re the one who keeps mentioning WoW. I have nothing against that game. I think the way it’s expanded the MMO market is brilliant ankittenhankful it exists.

Some people may want mounts, many others don’t. Adding it in for the players who want them detracts from the experience that those others are after. I do not use waypoints very often, but I do not want to see a plethora of charr automobiles or what have you steamrolling through Brisban.

@Safer Saviour

I respect your opinions I’m only getting on that one dude because he comes off as telling people to get lost like he owns the game etc. Im only giving my opinion which I feel strongly about but I think the only way anybody would know is with a beta test. I can live without it being in the game but because I want the game to last a long time and not be one of those could have been games, I feel that you cant bring in much more new people if you you don’t cater to the ones outside of guildwars 2. Old players will eventually leave, the way you keep the game alive is by recycling players, old ones leave new ones come in. Just my opinion..

I’ve played many M.M.O’s which had mounts, and I’ve always Agreed with them. Even when World of warcraft introduced flying mounts; I was ecstatic by the idea.
But this time, I Have to Agree with ArenaNet not having mounts in guild wars 2.
The waypoints are Sufficient enough to get around.

Although mounts are cool and you get around faster. I find it makes the world seem a bit smaller. You start losing interest of things around you and just make a bee line to your Goal. you may even miss things cause you’re just going too Fast.
So No, I would not like mounts in Guild wars 2 and I Hope the dev’s don’t change their Minds.

vespers.1759:

mounts are not “lorebreaking”. what a terrible argument. they can be so easily incorporated it takes 2 seconds to do.

I doubt very much it would take 2 seconds to do. The only way to add mounts in the game would be to do it via making them environmental weapons with no inherent permanent speed boost, a skill like call of the wild for speed boosts on a longish cooldown so that it’s not a permanent speedboost and with battle capabilities to uphold their environmental weapon status.

Yes to mounts please. Anet, I’ll even pay real money in your game store for them, as I’m sure many would. More money in your pocket, and we know that’s priority #1.

Dont like mounts? Dont use them. A civilization that learned how to teleport people, but not ride animals? Yea, that makes sense……. :-/ Before you say they could have ridden animals, but now only teleport since riding animals is old technology……..they’re still using windmills.

In society today, we don’t need to ride horses either, but some people ENJOY it. If you don’t like riding horses, here’s a thought………don’t ride horses! I don’t see non-horse lovers trying to ban all horses on the earth. Just because YOU don’t like it, doesn’t make it wrong.

I’m sure this idea has already been suggested, but I can’t read all twelve pages.

Add in environmental mounts.. not player owned mounts you summon, but mounts you find in the open world and in dungeons, on which you can jump and ride, maybe having its own set of skills for mounted combat. When you get off the mount, it will disappear after a while and respawn at its original location.

Given there are environmental weapons, I think environmental mounts would fit in perfectly.

Villious.8530:

Yes to mounts please. Anet, I’ll even pay real money in your game store for them, as I’m sure many would. More money in your pocket, and we know that’s priority #1.

Dont like mounts? Dont use them. A civilization that learned how to teleport people, but not ride animals? Yea, that makes sense……. :-/ Before you say they could have ridden animals, but now only teleport since riding animals is old technology……..they’re still using windmills.

In society today, we don’t need to ride horses either, but some people ENJOY it. If you don’t like riding horses, here’s a thought………don’t ride horses! I don’t see non-horse lovers trying to ban all horses on the earth. Just because YOU don’t like it, doesn’t make it wrong.

Real life is very different from in game.

the reason why people dont want horses is because it’ll destroy peoples ability to see the world, as they would have one without mounts. While people might say ‘well waypoints destroy that anyway’, they’d still have to get there on foot, and giving people mounts would defeat the purpose of the giant wonderful world they have created for us to explore.

Safer Saviour.9685:

camoflaugz.5031:

Who says that anybody wants a mount for vanity purposes? I do like the waypoints but I also want mounts in the game. If you wanted Anet to do good then you would understand that people want this. Nobody told you not to use the waypoints anymore and nobody asked for them to be removed. You actually dont want Anet to do well thats not your goal. Your goal is to be as anti wow as possible. " We really like our game" that sounds kinda weird man….

You’re the one who keeps mentioning WoW. I have nothing against that game. I think the way it’s expanded the MMO market is brilliant ankittenhankful it exists.

Some people may want mounts, many others don’t. Adding it in for the players who want them detracts from the experience that those others are after. I do not use waypoints very often, but I do not want to see a plethora of charr automobiles or what have you steamrolling through Brisban.

i would say that the majority would be happy with mounts. the very vocal minority is who posts here.

As we’ve already discussed, MOUNTS. ARE NOT. LOREBREAKING. If you will, direct your attention to:

Gummy.4278:

Fievre.4510:

Valnar Arylith.5793:

can a moderator please close this thread. the devs have already said no mounts so why the big huhar. and if you don’t like it, then don’t play simple. but as i’ve said in a previous post about mounts. it’s to do with the LORE!!!!! they were not in guild wars lore. so why invent them just to make some people happy. no thank you. it would ruin the game in my eyes and no doubt many other peoples eyes too. so plese can someone put and end to this mount nonesence. thank you.

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Summit_Beastmaster
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Dolyak_Rider
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Necrid_Horseman

Yep, never have any form of mounts ever been in the lore.

Speaking of lore, it makes a lot of sense to have miniatures.

I forgot about the Necrid Horseman and this guy too.
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Banished_Dream_Rider

The Junundu also have been mentioned, just to cover that base.

Please know wtf you’re talking about before you keep repeating what’s been said and proven to be false.

So they’re lorebreaking? No. They’re not. Please see above.

It would clutter the game? No. Please see suggestions that would not allow mounts in cities, and the fact that, what are you expecting people to parade around on? If you want to talk about lorebreaking, it would be any mount that’s big enough to be a “clutter” problem.

It’d become a pay-to-win speed boost from the gem shop? Uh, no? Why would you even think this? Nobody, as far as I’m aware, is rooting for mounts to be restricted to the gem shop. That would be stupid, and if they end up in the game it isn’t going to be through only gem shop purchases. That’s just. I can’t even.

Mounts put a stop to character interaction? Let me tell you, through all the years I’ve played WoW, having a mount was never a reason to ignore someone. It was because I was trying to get somewhere, and mount or no, I wasn’t going to stop. These statements are just getting ignorant and desperate now.

People seem to think that just because they’re content to farm up a dungeon armor set and be done with it, means everyone should be. That’s not the case, at all, and it’s pretty oblivious and selfish to refuse to see otherwise. Some people like to collect everything they possibly can. Mounts wouldn’t be overpowered, they shouldn’t be restricted to only some players (with the exception of having to complete something to get them, maybe), they shouldn’t be in PvP/WvW or cities. They also shouldn’t be limited to just the roads in other zones.

Keeping to the roads would be a pain, both for the devs and the players (because seriously if I want to run in circles on a mount I just got, I want to run in circles sporadically, not on a path).

TLDR: Please stop being so close-minded, you’re not benefiting anyone. Not even yourself, despite you refusing to acknowledge that.

Edited for clarification.

Fievre.4510:

Gummy.4278:

Fievre.4510:

Valnar Arylith.5793:

can a moderator please close this thread. the devs have already said no mounts so why the big huhar. and if you don’t like it, then don’t play simple. but as i’ve said in a previous post about mounts. it’s to do with the LORE!!!!! they were not in guild wars lore. so why invent them just to make some people happy. no thank you. it would ruin the game in my eyes and no doubt many other peoples eyes too. so plese can someone put and end to this mount nonesence. thank you.

http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Summit_Beastmaster
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Dolyak_Rider
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Necrid_Horseman

Yep, never have any form of mounts ever been in the lore.

Speaking of lore, it makes a lot of sense to have miniatures.

I forgot about the Necrid Horseman and this guy too.
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Banished_Dream_Rider

As we’ve already discussed, MOUNTS. ARE NOT. LOREBREAKING. The Junundu also have been mentioned, just to cover that base.

Please know wtf you’re talking about before you keep repeating what’s been said and proven to be false.

So they’re lorebreaking? No. They’re not. Please see above.

It would clutter the game? No. Please see suggestions that would not allow mounts in cities, and the fact that, what are you expecting people to parade around on? If you want to talk about lorebreaking, it would be any mount that’s big enough to be a “clutter” problem.

It’d become a pay-to-win speed boost from the gem shop? Uh, no? Why would you even think this? Nobody, as far as I’m aware, is rooting for mounts to be restricted to the gem shop. That would be stupid, and if they end up in the game it isn’t going to be through only gem shop purchases. That’s just. I can’t even.

Mounts put a stop to character interaction? Let me tell you, through all the years I’ve played WoW, having a mount was never a reason to ignore someone. It was because I was trying to get somewhere, and mount or no, I wasn’t going to stop. These statements are just getting ignorant and desperate now.

People seem to think that just because they’re content to farm up a dungeon armor set and be done with it, means everyone should be. That’s not the case, at all, and it’s pretty oblivious and selfish to refuse to see otherwise. Some people like to collect everything they possibly can. Mounts wouldn’t be overpowered, they shouldn’t be restricted to only some players (with the exception of having to complete something to get them, maybe), they shouldn’t be in PvP/WvW or cities. They also shouldn’t be limited to just the roads in other zones.

Keeping to the roads would be a pain, both for the devs and the players (because seriously if I want to run in circles on a mount I just got, I want to run in circles sporadically, not on a path).

TLDR: Please stop being so close-minded, you’re not benefiting anyone. Not even yourself, despite you refusing to acknowledge that.

Possibly the only majorly smart comment here, well done.
Some of the reasons for being anti-mounts here are so stupid.
‘Urrm, it will make people ignore each other and not do dynamic events.’, well, that’s just rubbish, if anything it will make us go to dynamic events and the things we normally do quicker.
The statements here are getting desperate, big time.

Before you flame me please read.

I know we dont have mounts in the game so that it keeps the scale of the zones/world as large as possible, and I completely support this idea.

Now, I purpose that for Pve and possibly WvWvW there could be mounts available to level 80 characters only. The mounts would grant 33% speed boost(permaswiftness) and would only be available to Lvl 80 characters and possibly only commanders in WvWvW.

This would make it all that much more enticing to get to Lvl 80 or spend the 100gold on Commander status and it would grant those in need the ability to Get around the world faster, In pve i think a level 80 would of earned this and it would make that 100% achievement just slightly less painful as instead of constanting running your speed buff build you could actually run your combat build and just mount up from location to location. The Commanders in WvW would also benefit as they could get to the action and lead the army all that much more effectively.

Anyways let me know what you guys think in the comments.

~M

Personally I don’t really want to see mounts in Guild Wars 2, if World of Warcraft is anything to go by everywhere will just be a cluster of sparkle animals. Even if you limit it to commanders, based on what I see in lions arch in a daily basis (being 5+ commander way-points) I don’t want them to be even more obnoxious with them riding mounts around.

And because it might also be an aesthetic thing, more people will get the commander position only for the sake of getting a mount (and potential buffs that come with it), rather than what people SHOULD be getting the commander position for. To lead a large group of people.

castlemanic.3198:

Villious.8530:

Yes to mounts please. Anet, I’ll even pay real money in your game store for them, as I’m sure many would. More money in your pocket, and we know that’s priority #1.

Dont like mounts? Dont use them. A civilization that learned how to teleport people, but not ride animals? Yea, that makes sense……. :-/ Before you say they could have ridden animals, but now only teleport since riding animals is old technology……..they’re still using windmills.

In society today, we don’t need to ride horses either, but some people ENJOY it. If you don’t like riding horses, here’s a thought………don’t ride horses! I don’t see non-horse lovers trying to ban all horses on the earth. Just because YOU don’t like it, doesn’t make it wrong.

Real life is very different from in game.

the reason why people dont want horses is because it’ll destroy peoples ability to see the world, as they would have one without mounts. While people might say ‘well waypoints destroy that anyway’, they’d still have to get there on foot, and giving people mounts would defeat the purpose of the giant wonderful world they have created for us to explore.

That’s a great opinion, but its not mine, and a lot of people beg to differ. Destroy your ability to see the world? Don’t use them. It would enhance my ability to see the world. See how that works?

Villious.8530:

castlemanic.3198:

Villious.8530:

Yes to mounts please. Anet, I’ll even pay real money in your game store for them, as I’m sure many would. More money in your pocket, and we know that’s priority #1.

Dont like mounts? Dont use them. A civilization that learned how to teleport people, but not ride animals? Yea, that makes sense……. :-/ Before you say they could have ridden animals, but now only teleport since riding animals is old technology……..they’re still using windmills.

In society today, we don’t need to ride horses either, but some people ENJOY it. If you don’t like riding horses, here’s a thought………don’t ride horses! I don’t see non-horse lovers trying to ban all horses on the earth. Just because YOU don’t like it, doesn’t make it wrong.

Real life is very different from in game.

the reason why people dont want horses is because it’ll destroy peoples ability to see the world, as they would have one without mounts. While people might say ‘well waypoints destroy that anyway’, they’d still have to get there on foot, and giving people mounts would defeat the purpose of the giant wonderful world they have created for us to explore.

That’s a great opinion, but its not mine, and a lot of people beg to differ. Destroy your ability to see the world? Don’t use them. It would enhance my ability to see the world. See how that works?

This. Mounts would enhance the experience for a good many people, including those who are so terribly opposed to them. It may take some time, but it’s pretty likely that they would begin to see that it isn’t the end of the world. I honestly think mounts would be a fantastic addition to this game. A lot of people do, granted they have different opinions on how they should work.

PS: Horses aren’t what you should be worried about. We already know not to count on seeing those, but I don’t see why most other creatures don’t have the potential to be ridden.

Meh, with waypoints mounts are a bit redundant. But hey, why not add a very slow Dylak as a mount. Yes, your very own dylak. As you ride it cruising a good 1 mile per hour you can coast and watch others and have pity on them as they walk past you.

Fievre.4510:

Villious.8530:

castlemanic.3198:

Villious.8530:

Yes to mounts please. Anet, I’ll even pay real money in your game store for them, as I’m sure many would. More money in your pocket, and we know that’s priority #1.

Dont like mounts? Dont use them. A civilization that learned how to teleport people, but not ride animals? Yea, that makes sense……. :-/ Before you say they could have ridden animals, but now only teleport since riding animals is old technology……..they’re still using windmills.

In society today, we don’t need to ride horses either, but some people ENJOY it. If you don’t like riding horses, here’s a thought………don’t ride horses! I don’t see non-horse lovers trying to ban all horses on the earth. Just because YOU don’t like it, doesn’t make it wrong.

Real life is very different from in game.

the reason why people dont want horses is because it’ll destroy peoples ability to see the world, as they would have one without mounts. While people might say ‘well waypoints destroy that anyway’, they’d still have to get there on foot, and giving people mounts would defeat the purpose of the giant wonderful world they have created for us to explore.

That’s a great opinion, but its not mine, and a lot of people beg to differ. Destroy your ability to see the world? Don’t use them. It would enhance my ability to see the world. See how that works?

This. Mounts would enhance the experience for a good many people, including those who are so terribly opposed to them. It may take some time, but it’s pretty likely that they would begin to see that it isn’t the end of the world. I honestly think mounts would be a fantastic addition to this game. A lot of people do, granted they have different opinions on how they should work.

PS: Horses aren’t what you should be worried about. We already know not to count on seeing those, but I don’t see why most other creatures don’t have the potential to be ridden.

Agree about the horses. Just using them as an example :-)

I’d quote you but my button broke, so anyways: Just making sure. Apparently people elsewhere on the forum think not having horses would quell people’s desire to have mounts or something idek.

Also attached: Proof that we don’t need horsies. C:

Mounts do not make flying mounts something that HAS to happen. Personally I would love to see some ground mounts.

It’s another thing to collect and just ride around on. It’s purely for fun. Which is exactly what minipets are for. So why not the more the merrier?

Mounts don’t have a place in Tyria? Civilizations do use work animals to build….Especially horses. You wouldn’t be shocked to see a horse in Divinity’s reach…

I agree with having mounts, but I do not agree with a speed increase. This game is already very cosmetic, so lets make mounts strictly a cosmetic item. No benefits from having one at all you just look cool riding on one. Also make them realistic, Warg Mounts are out of the question. Horses, Camels and other things real life people would ride on would be acceptable. Lets keep this an adult game and not a cartoony 12 year olds game.

I can pretty much bet that if you actually said that what you want is what you use as a counterargument for every single person who’s disagreeing, then you might get some points.

As for what that is? Well, it’s a mount that is the same speed as a non-Swiftness boosted character. The mount also cannot be taken into cities and it cannot be used to outrun monsters. Also, it will not be restricted to the Gem store. And it will not be a lore-shattering one, such as centaurs.

However, even with that, you still run into issues. I brought up character size and was met with a talk about racial mounts. That’s really not the answer. After all, if different races get different mounts, that will just result in people asking for their race to be able to use mounts of other races. Similarly, the different races obviously have different ways to dealing with things. To a Norn, a Dolyak is not much different than our sheep, whereas to a Charr a Dolyak might be tonight’s dinner.

Similarly, even if the vocal portion of the pro-mount crowd is saying that they would be cool with mounts that have no speed boosts, you can bet everything you own and then some that the crowd that wants mounts to be fast so that they can get around the waypoint costs is just as large in numbers.

Guild Mounts would be awesome too. Mounts with your guilds emblem on them

I actually think racial mounts would be fine. Assuming the mounts are purely cosmetic, it would be no different than racial armor.

Villious.8530:

castlemanic.3198:

Villious.8530:

Yes to mounts please. Anet, I’ll even pay real money in your game store for them, as I’m sure many would. More money in your pocket, and we know that’s priority #1.

Dont like mounts? Dont use them. A civilization that learned how to teleport people, but not ride animals? Yea, that makes sense……. :-/ Before you say they could have ridden animals, but now only teleport since riding animals is old technology……..they’re still using windmills.

In society today, we don’t need to ride horses either, but some people ENJOY it. If you don’t like riding horses, here’s a thought………don’t ride horses! I don’t see non-horse lovers trying to ban all horses on the earth. Just because YOU don’t like it, doesn’t make it wrong.

Real life is very different from in game.

the reason why people dont want horses is because it’ll destroy peoples ability to see the world, as they would have one without mounts. While people might say ‘well waypoints destroy that anyway’, they’d still have to get there on foot, and giving people mounts would defeat the purpose of the giant wonderful world they have created for us to explore.

That’s a great opinion, but its not mine, and a lot of people beg to differ. Destroy your ability to see the world? Don’t use them. It would enhance my ability to see the world. See how that works?

I never said that I was against mounts. On the contrary, i suggested adding them as environmental weapons with no inherent speed boost but with a swiftness granting ability similar to some that are already in the game (i used the rangers call of the wild as a perfect example).

All I was saying was that is what many people who are against mounts think. I’m personally against mounts that grant a speed boost, there really isnt any need for mounts to have speed boosts. Making them environmental weapons adds a new level of depth to the game and makes for great roleplaying purposes too. I’d even go as far as to suggest the mounts have an ability or two that are tied to the players profession, and the rest standardised.

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