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Posted by: Minigrump.4961

Minigrump.4961

can someone test out all the known bugs and see if they actually did fix it? i would but i am a bit busy right now

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Posted by: spoj.9672

spoj.9672

Another 49, another reward of a PFR and Empyreal Fragments. Nothing else.

Yeah, I think they fixed all of Arah p4.

They made it so end reward is only awarded when all bosses are killed?

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Posted by: Zui.9245

Zui.9245

Another 49, another reward of a PFR and Empyreal Fragments. Nothing else.

Yeah, I think they fixed all of Arah p4.

They made it so end reward is only awarded when all bosses are killed?

I think that’s unlikely. By fixed, I think he means that it’s (apparently) no longer possible to bug out Farnaz or Simin.

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Posted by: HHR LostProphet.4801

HHR LostProphet.4801

And here a reminder why we can’t have nice things:

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/livingworld/lwd/Challenge-mode-Cheap-gimmick-mode/first#post4609401

“I can’t complete it with the first try, so it must suck!”

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Posted by: dlonie.6547

dlonie.6547

y u do dis. I was having a nice Sunday morning, catching up on all the elitist gossip over tea, and you bring that trash in here.

GOOD DAY SIR.

storms out

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Posted by: HHR LostProphet.4801

HHR LostProphet.4801

I think those threads show how the difficulty level harms this game. The people aren’t used to die. In other games it’s normal to die dozen of times before you’re able to beat the content, sometimes you have to even step back from the game for one day to refocus.
In GuildWars2, the mindset is, if I die, the content is too hard.

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Posted by: Quickfoot Katana.8642

Quickfoot Katana.8642

I kind of miss times when people kicked you for meleeing Lupi and when people thought Scholar was a waste.

CoF path1 day, ping berserker with scholar “ruby orb only sorry” kick

4 warriors 1 mes only.

I miss that meta back when everyone had a full geared warrior just for cof

Hell, I made myself a warrior just to mock those people! He is called: Escaped Cof Convict

He is now my main (or was, back when I played)

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Posted by: fishball.7204

fishball.7204

FOR THE GREEEEEEEEEEEEN

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Posted by: spoj.9672

spoj.9672

I think at this point we need a demonstration to show that it isnt berserker that is the problem. Its player skill and coordination.

My suggestion is for someone to do a speedrun using all nomads gear but doing it as fast as possible. I expect the path to only take a few extra mins to complete.

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Posted by: oxtred.7658

oxtred.7658

If i had nomad gear I would..

If you’re on EU and need help to get into dungeons, pm me.

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Posted by: Ropechef.6192

Ropechef.6192

I have a couple WvW geared people, ( PvT ) I also have the same in DpS Gear so I could do “both” runs if needed.

I will be willing to submit myself to the experience if someone is willing to put together a group and record it….

Hell. where is a bored Obal when you need him.

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Posted by: Iris Ng.9845

Iris Ng.9845

I think at this point we need a demonstration to show that it isnt berserker that is the problem. Its player skill and coordination.

My suggestion is for someone to do a speedrun using all nomads gear but doing it as fast as possible. I expect the path to only take a few extra mins to complete.

If you chant “We all care about CM in nomads!” as many times as possible, I know a certain guild would be compelled to do this speed run.

“Raids are like fortune cookies. You eat the cookie and then read the paper scraps.”

- doranduck, 2016 on Lore in Raids

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Posted by: Trice.4598

Trice.4598

I think at this point we need a demonstration to show that it isnt berserker that is the problem. Its player skill and coordination.

My suggestion is for someone to do a speedrun using all nomads gear but doing it as fast as possible. I expect the path to only take a few extra mins to complete.

If you chant “We all care about CM in nomads!” as many times as possible, I know a certain guild would be compelled to do this speed run.

I did CM after you wrote that, and I could see in those outlaw’s eyes, they know what is coming, the fear in their eyes as I slaughtered their comrades, they weren’t afraid of me, I was merely a distraction to them, that’s when one of them look at me, staring at my soul and whispered “the crows… the snow crows are coming”

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Posted by: Tentonhammr.7849

Tentonhammr.7849

Full Cleric/Ventari banner regen lupi solo.

As if we needed proof of how faceroll these builds are, but, well here it is. The goal was to tank and do everything wrong. You don’t need cooldown management, you don’t need endurance management. You make every mistake imaginable and all will be well.

If you don’t wanna sit through this hour long cancer-ebola-AIDS fest, skip to 30:17 for the Life Drink>Life Drain> Frenzied Blast> Life Drain> Life Drink combo… with no dodges. Pretty much sums it up.

Forgive the FPS caused by recording on a potato.

Zelendel

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Posted by: Ropechef.6192

Ropechef.6192

why do i keep going back to the general forums to read???

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Posted by: Nevets Crimsonwing.5271

Nevets Crimsonwing.5271

Full Cleric/Ventari banner regen lupi solo.

As if we needed proof of how faceroll these builds are, but, well here it is. The goal was to tank and do everything wrong. You don’t need cooldown management, you don’t need endurance management. You make every mistake imaginable and all will be well.

If you don’t wanna sit through this hour long cancer-ebola-AIDS fest, skip to 30:17 for the Life Drink>Life Drain> Frenzied Blast> Life Drain> Life Drink combo… with no dodges. Pretty much sums it up.

Forgive the FPS caused by recording on a potato.

You… you… you… FILTHY ELITIST!!!

Also… vomit

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Posted by: fishball.7204

fishball.7204

That’s an impressive lupi solo, how did you manage to stay awake lol

FOR THE GREEEEEEEEEEEEN

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Posted by: Ropechef.6192

Ropechef.6192

waxing Nostalgic….

What would Tyria be like if Horuda was still with us?

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Posted by: creepmatic.9435

creepmatic.9435

Joined with my guardian 2 warrior’s LFG the other day (CoE All paths Berzerker), then 2 thieves joined after. I can’t even tell when was the last time when a CoE pug went that smooth. Neither warrior’s were PS but we had permanent 25 might and fury and both thieves were blasting on my PF/HG for might. Is so nice to see 6k sword autos in pugs (4.6.2.0.2 no UC), all paths were done in 40 min give or take which is not a record but is pretty kitten good considering our comp/pug.

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Posted by: ShadowRX.9024

ShadowRX.9024

I think at this point we need a demonstration to show that it isnt berserker that is the problem. Its player skill and coordination.

My suggestion is for someone to do a speedrun using all nomads gear but doing it as fast as possible. I expect the path to only take a few extra mins to complete.

I’m up for that if you want to set a team for it o/ . I can play any class too.

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Posted by: spoj.9672

spoj.9672

Im too lazy and inactive for it myself. It was merely a suggestion for a maybe bored guild.

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Posted by: NovaanVerdiano.6174

NovaanVerdiano.6174

I think at this point we need a demonstration to show that it isnt berserker that is the problem. Its player skill and coordination.

My suggestion is for someone to do a speedrun using all nomads gear but doing it as fast as possible. I expect the path to only take a few extra mins to complete.

I think at this point people would still be BHBs, just because they always are and would never want to accept that they are just horrible players even with the puffer their defensive gear gives them.

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Posted by: ShadowRX.9024

ShadowRX.9024

Im too lazy and inactive for it myself. It was merely a suggestion for a maybe bored guild.

Aww QQ that would have been a nice video kinda.

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Posted by: Jeremlloyd.6837

Jeremlloyd.6837

Well Dub already made a video like that a while ago, but it was with cleric’s gear and without speedrun tactics. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Rn7qtOLDJs or Arah P2 even: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2VhmwLwvrM

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Posted by: ShadowRX.9024

ShadowRX.9024

Well Dub already made a video like that a while ago, but it was with cleric’s gear and without speedrun tactics. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Rn7qtOLDJs

Oh never saw that video, I only remember the rT arah p2 with no dodge . Though spoj’s idea sounds more awesome.

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Posted by: Jeremlloyd.6837

Jeremlloyd.6837

Meh it’s boring, you just facetank everything and afk while killing bosses, not rly fun imo

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Posted by: Enaretos.8079

Enaretos.8079

We could stream a regular HotW easy mode run to show how we embrace the nomads’ meta

Snow Crows member since January 2014
My Twitch

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Posted by: ShadowRX.9024

ShadowRX.9024

Meh it’s boring, you just facetank everything and afk while killing bosses, not rly fun imo

Yea i agree it could be quite boring but would be nice to see the difference in time at least o/.

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Posted by: hybrid.5027

hybrid.5027

P4 bosses fixed? Thanks to Grouch for passing it on to the QA team as a priority issue!

Looks like Arah p4 will remain on the menu for the next dungeon tourney.

Anyone able to test the sep2 still bugs out?

I know who I am, do you know who you are?

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Posted by: Taku.6352

Taku.6352

SE p2 escorts event bug can be avoided by killing the 2 elite mobs that are with the champions before all of the 4 champs are dead. After we started doing this we’ve had a 100% success rate in Se p2.

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Posted by: dlonie.6547

dlonie.6547

P4 bosses fixed? Thanks to Grouch for passing it on to the QA team as a priority issue!

They fixed a major bug that trivialized half of the most difficult dungeon after more than two years.

And we call it “prioritized”. smh…

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Posted by: HHR LostProphet.4801

HHR LostProphet.4801

I’m asking myself if I could charge some of those people for me getting brain cancer reading through those posts.

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Posted by: spoj.9672

spoj.9672

Well Dub already made a video like that a while ago, but it was with cleric’s gear and without speedrun tactics. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Rn7qtOLDJs or Arah P2 even: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2VhmwLwvrM

Its more of a suggestion to show that gear isnt as important as people make it out to be when it comes to speed. I think it would be fun to demonstrate just how fast you can go by using speedrun tactics and composition but with defensive armour instead. So you would still stack might and buffs but you wouldnt have the baseline berserker stats. I suppose you could even demonstrate it naked. That would be more challenging but the damage would still be on same level as a nomads party.

It would show that it really doesnt matter what gear you bring to a group in a pug as long as you use proper tactics and stack might. Then maybe we would get less picky pugs and less QQ. Wishful thinking.

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Posted by: hybrid.5027

hybrid.5027

P4 bosses fixed? Thanks to Grouch for passing it on to the QA team as a priority issue!

They fixed a major bug that trivialized half of the most difficult dungeon after more than two years.

And we call it “prioritized”. smh…

Well Grouch specifically forwarded it to QA as a priority bug in mid October. this is a fairly decent turnaround time.

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Posted by: hybrid.5027

hybrid.5027

Well Dub already made a video like that a while ago, but it was with cleric’s gear and without speedrun tactics. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Rn7qtOLDJs or Arah P2 even: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2VhmwLwvrM

Its more of a suggestion to show that gear isnt as important as people make it out to be when it comes to speed. I think it would be fun to demonstrate just how fast you can go by using speedrun tactics and composition but with defensive armour instead. So you would still stack might and buffs but you wouldnt have the baseline berserker stats. I suppose you could even demonstrate it naked. That would be more challenging but the damage would still be on same level as a nomads party.

It would show that it really doesnt matter what gear you bring to a group in a pug as long as you use proper tactics and stack might. Then maybe we would get less picky pugs and less QQ. Wishful thinking.

Using Soldiers would be decent, since a full soldiers build is still like 60% of the dps of berserker with full party buffs. The dungeons that are more about running than fighting would hardly be slower at all.

Certain YOLO strats might not work, like fighting Alphard in the middle or stacking against Frost in CM1. But most dungeons should be basically the same.

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Posted by: perry.9645

perry.9645

we did a full nomads arah p2 trio a while ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IYrDgwlJdM
some higlights are tanking abomination rage mode multiple lupi bubbles and alphard daggerstorm.

video is unedited and we trolled around alot^^

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Posted by: Iris Ng.9845

Iris Ng.9845

Well Dub already made a video like that a while ago, but it was with cleric’s gear and without speedrun tactics. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Rn7qtOLDJs or Arah P2 even: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2VhmwLwvrM

When he tried to teach me in vain how to solo with my ele, he advised me to run with a cleric warrior and look up his vid. I remember being badly offended (and probably still). It is the second most powerful way to ruin every meta newb’s inspiration.

“Raids are like fortune cookies. You eat the cookie and then read the paper scraps.”

- doranduck, 2016 on Lore in Raids

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Posted by: Jeremlloyd.6837

Jeremlloyd.6837

Here’s what happen when i’m bored at work: http://imgur.com/05YizVH

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Posted by: Iris Ng.9845

Iris Ng.9845

Meh it’s boring, you just facetank everything and afk while killing bosses, not rly fun imo

Go doing a crazy skipping tactics only changing from berserkers to nomads. Come on! It’s not boring. It is quite fun. I even imagine that it could be a highlight of your nice strategy.

“Raids are like fortune cookies. You eat the cookie and then read the paper scraps.”

- doranduck, 2016 on Lore in Raids

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Posted by: Ropechef.6192

Ropechef.6192

As a random thought and experiment….

In your all’s opinion, What dungeon path do you all feel showcases the “best” showing of knowledge and skill??

(thinking on it myself) I wonder if Arah 4 may be it…..

the reason I ask As a concept to what Spoj is suggesting. And something that DnT did awhile back with Lupi, (the play how you want meta vs beserker meta speed kill ). Most of us in here know the difference between the game modes, the styles of Play and what “Meta” actually is. It would be an interesting experiment, and perhaps give some of us something to do to stave off the boredom.

GWEN meta vs. (dungeon path )
sPvP meta vs. (path)
PhIw vs. (path)
Soldier vs (path)
Casual Dungeon Meta vs (path)

Thats a long “film” . but perhaps serve an as interesting editorial dialog for “state of the game” ???

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Posted by: spoj.9672

spoj.9672

I would recommend doing it on a shorter path. And preferably a path that casual players would actually pug. I mean most of the people who complain about the meta dont even do arah so they wouldnt have a clue whats going on. Plus if i were doing the runs id probably get annoyed repeating arah with crap gear.

To be honest i kind of feel like just saying go do se p1 with all those scenarios. That way each run even when done badly shouldnt take long.

The other choice I would pick would either be TA up or a CM path.

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Posted by: Ropechef.6192

Ropechef.6192

I would recommend doing it on a shorter path. And preferably a path that casual players would actually pug. I mean most of the people who complain about the meta dont even do arah so they wouldnt have a clue whats going on. Plus if i were doing the runs id probably get annoyed repeating arah with crap gear.

To be honest i kind of feel like just saying go do se p1 with all those scenarios. That way each run even when done badly shouldnt take long.

The other choice I would pick would either be TA up or a CM path.

I tend to agree.
Arah seems to be our Last sanctuary. I would prefer not to dirty it to much….

SE 1 would be good. As would Twilight Arbor

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Posted by: GrimmR.3541

GrimmR.3541

And im back, what did i miss ?
Had a little “break“ from the forums..

toxic since 2012

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Posted by: Iris Ng.9845

Iris Ng.9845

I would recommend doing it on a shorter path. And preferably a path that casual players would actually pug. I mean most of the people who complain about the meta dont even do arah so they wouldnt have a clue whats going on. Plus if i were doing the runs id probably get annoyed repeating arah with crap gear.

To be honest i kind of feel like just saying go do se p1 with all those scenarios. That way each run even when done badly shouldnt take long.

The other choice I would pick would either be TA up or a CM path.

SE p1 is too easy and straght forward as stack-and-kill. If I had to choose SE, I would pick SE p3 because of the clown car and the ridiculous pug-stacking at the Destroyer boss. I also prefer either TA up or CM, TA for simplicity and CM for elevated tactics and coordination.

“Raids are like fortune cookies. You eat the cookie and then read the paper scraps.”

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Posted by: spoj.9672

spoj.9672

Well i wasnt really suggesting it to show difficulty. It was just proving that the time difference isnt much different when you stack might and other buffs and use the same tactics. Gear is a pretty small contribution in the grand scheme of things.

Anyway its completely up to whoever can be bothered to do it. If i was doing it I would want a fast and relatively simple/easy path.

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Posted by: Iris Ng.9845

Iris Ng.9845

CM <—- fast/easy. Now it’s only up to whoever wants to do it.

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Posted by: fishball.7204

fishball.7204

Do consumables count towards the power ‘cap’ at low level dungeons (eg. stones, food)?

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Posted by: Iris Ng.9845

Iris Ng.9845

Do consumables count towards the power ‘cap’ at low level dungeons (eg. stones, food)?

Yes!

“Raids are like fortune cookies. You eat the cookie and then read the paper scraps.”

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Zui.9245

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Posted by: Purple Miku.7032

Purple Miku.7032

I wish this would get fixed https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQpgpRk326E