Guild Wars 2

Evans.6347:

Not necessarily. A bunch of it can be gathered by pressing F repeatedly too.

You can ridicule all you want but it remains humorous to me that those who are most vocal about the ‘only press 1 to win’ are the ones who religiously preach the necessity of only one stat combination, trait spread and even skill rotation. Somehow, that feels contradictory to me.

So how can I get dragonite ores if not by pressing 1? And for whole armour you will need 3000 ores. That’s 100 boring temple events.

I was going to say how WvW was going to become hell with this +Trinkets+Weapons+Bloodlust but then I remembered WvW is the disowned child of Guildwars2.

BlueZone.4236:

Ascended gear is meant to ease the majority of players into the grinding mindset, with extra stats as a good incentive to grind.

Also, it is easier to develop filler “content” that takes up some long arbitrary amount of hours versus new fun content that takes the same amount of hours.

That’s precisely it. It’s so, so, so much easier and they do need to keep people playing. The time gating and huge amounts of materials makes it abundantly clear that this is here to keep people logging in and playing to get mats to craft their equipment. When people are more or less done with a set of ascended weapons they’ll release ascended armor, then ascended back pieces and jewels (because most people truly interested in Ascended equipment probably already have those for their mains).

The fact that there is only a single set of ascended skins (and it’s a pretty horrible set of skins, IMO) requiring us to transmute our Exotic or Rare skins back over them also supports this.

I’ll make a full set of ascended equipment for my Thief but that’s about it for now, I think. Exotics are more than enough for this game. WvW roaming being the only possible exception and, practically speaking, I think it’ll only very rarely make an actual difference there.

I’ll be interested to see what they do next year to keep people logging in. Probably, about February or March they’ll add ascended equipment to dungeon and WvW vendors (but that’ll probably come a couple of months later because, you know, it’s really hard to update a vendor’s inventory) for huge amounts of tokens and gold and ectos. And your lunch money.

And your new bike.

Delryn.7235:

papryk.6273:

Delryn.7235:

it looks regal and royal and elegant. .

looking like Gonzo the clown is elegant and royal? rly? xD

Yes. Their style resembles more traditional European balls, such as the carnivals in Venice for example. Things which happen still today as a cultural celebration, just because it’s not a part of your culture doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist.

oh yes please tell me where I said that something is not existing? I like when somebody over interpret things that ppl said… Please tell me more…
and sry bud but this looks more like :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jester

haviz.1340:

Evans.6347:

Not necessarily. A bunch of it can be gathered by pressing F repeatedly too.

You can ridicule all you want but it remains humorous to me that those who are most vocal about the ‘only press 1 to win’ are the ones who religiously preach the necessity of only one stat combination, trait spread and even skill rotation. Somehow, that feels contradictory to me.

So how can I get dragonite ores if not by pressing 1? And for whole armour you will need 3000 ores. That’s 100 boring temple events.

I’m sorry but I find such comment distasteful.
Nobody is at any point forcing you to stand there and press 1. That is your own choice.

Yes, you can do it, while being carried by others in a group. But hey, maybe you could make the whole “ordeal” a little more interesting for yourself and others by using you whole spectrum of skills.

Bah, why am I arguing this anyway. I you want to complain about your self imposed boredom, go on ahead. That’s what a forum is for after all.

I have a dream im craft epic armor ..
http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Archadian_Judges?file=Archadian_Judges.jpg
then i woke up .

Samuraizp.3896:

I have a dream im craft epic armor ..
http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Archadian_Judges?file=Archadian_Judges.jpg
then i woke up .

Ah yes, the mussel-head judge. Epic, no doubt.
The dream of any gastropod.

papryk.6273:

WORST…looking…armor…ever…
I really have never seen in any other MMO such ugly armors.
srsly…anet please change the armor designer.

Then you haven’t played very many MMOs

With all the resources, GW1 armor styles to draw on and epic concept art, THIS is what they came up with? The light armor for my sylvari looks just … ugh. Like a bad reskin of the Vigil armor.

And what bothers me the most? It says in the preview that these armors were made in the style of famous Luxon and Kurzick armourers. That’s an insult to both factions! They look nothing like those famous sets!

Evans.6347:

I’m sorry but I find such comment distasteful.
Nobody is at any point forcing you to stand there and press 1. That is your own choice.

You don’t have to press one anyway. You can just turn on auto-attack.

It’s funny but I enjoy those events a lot, but then I move and I use my skills to support during those fights and being a Shadowstepping, Shadow Refuge, ninja-resser is very satisfying for me (my record is 5 people with one Shadow Refuge at Dwayna, it would have been six or more but some people don’t seem to know to stop auto-attacking when they’re being stealthed).

champ.7021:

Magnus Steelgrave.6580:

Probably just a matter of them having ascended everything else already so… armor time.

this is why im bringing it up. this is the last chance before they put this into the game and after this is updated theres no going back. Anet will not take it out and its all too sad that people are fine with it. I dont understand how. Can you imagine the grind it will take to get the pieces. If anet makes the whole set one craft then i wouldnt mind it and that would be at least a compromise. But if they make every single piece a separate time gated craft it will really suck.

Last chance? No. It’s already too late.

As for those who are arguing that Ascended gear is necessary for fractals (because of AR), Anet could easily have added infusion slots to Exotic gear. Fractals and AR were merely a (very flimsy) excuse for introducing the Ascended gear grind.

Evans.6347:

I’m sorry but I find such comment distasteful.
Nobody is at any point forcing you to stand there and press 1. That is your own choice.

Yes, you can do it, while being carried by others in a group. But hey, maybe you could make the whole “ordeal” a little more interesting for yourself and others by using you whole spectrum of skills.

Bah, why am I arguing this anyway. I you want to complain about your self imposed boredom, go on ahead. That’s what a forum is for after all.

I find those events distasteful. You are in a zerg of 100 players wearing cleric’s, shaman’s or any other bad gear. Using more skills doesn’t make it more interesting because you’re basically attacking a dummy.

And I’m actually doing more damage than other zerglings by spamming 1. Not to mention that guardian with a sword or warrior with an axe actually deals the most damage by using only autoattacks.

The male human looks nice. Unfortunately I don’t have a male human. I have a male Sylvari and the poofiness bug hits hard, as usual.

Well, can’t argue about taste. I like them.

We have real dungeon master here.

Molch.2078:

Well, can’t argue about taste. I like them.

Show helm on Charr pls.. omg i think it looks terrible (again..)

Heavy armor, especially head, leg pieces and boots look nice. Rest – meh

Junkpile.7439:

We have real dungeon master here.

You definitely should check http://gw2dungeons.net! Especially arah part, high quality and you might learn something new.

haviz.1340:

Evans.6347:

I’m sorry but I find such comment distasteful.
Nobody is at any point forcing you to stand there and press 1. That is your own choice.

Yes, you can do it, while being carried by others in a group. But hey, maybe you could make the whole “ordeal” a little more interesting for yourself and others by using you whole spectrum of skills.

Bah, why am I arguing this anyway. I you want to complain about your self imposed boredom, go on ahead. That’s what a forum is for after all.

I find those events distasteful. You are in a zerg of 100 players wearing cleric’s, shaman’s or any other bad gear. Using more skills doesn’t make it more interesting because you’re basically attacking a dummy.

And I’m actually doing more damage than other zerglings by spamming 1. Not to mention that guardian with a sword or warrior with an axe actually deals the most damage by using only autoattacks.

I don’t expect anything less Haviz, I’m certain you are doing more damage than the others. But can you justify calling something mindless when getting to that point requires a bunch of min-maxing and experience?

Everything can be trivialised, that doesn’t mean that it inherently is.

You know, TC, you raise an excellent question. I’d actually love to see a developer justify ascended armor after they told us ascended weapons were only being added to “bridge the game between exotic and Legendary”. If there’s no Legendary armor, then what gap is there to be bridged? I actually find that rather insulting.

Which of the following statements do you guys find to be the most insulting?

“ascended gear is to be a bridge between exotic and Legendary”

“everyone, including casual players, should have the best statistical gear by the time they reach level 80”

“we didn’t expect players to get exotic so quickly” + “we intended to add ascended gear from the start”

“we want everyone to be on an equal power base”

“we don’t make grindy games, we leave the grind to other MMOs”

“we don’t have to add content to keep players playing as long as possible” + “we can focus on what’s fun”

“in this game, the grind is all about cosmetic upgrades, vertical progression”

I’ve noticed my issue with heavy, out of the heavy armor the only part I really disliked was the boots.

The whole armor looks fantastic in it’s bulk, makes you look like a royal knight but the boots just make the outfit look like a shapeless mess. Boots need to be smaller/thinner.

Question: How do we know this is Ascended armour? For all we know, it could be one model of Legendary armour.

Evans.6347:

Aah the hypocrisy!..

I think you have trouble understanding that this forum is frequented by more than one person.

darkace.8925:

“ascended gear is to be a bridge between exotic and Legendary”

“everyone, including casual players, should have the best statistical gear by the time they reach level 80”

“we didn’t expect players to get exotic so quickly” + “we intended to add ascended gear from the start”

“we want everyone to be on an equal power base”

“we don’t make grindy games, we leave the grind to other MMOs”

“we don’t have to add content to keep players playing as long as possible” + “we can focus on what’s fun”

“in this game, the grind is all about cosmetic upgrades, vertical progression”

“We’ve always been at war with Eastasia.”

Evans.6347:

But can you justify calling something mindless when getting to that point requires a bunch of min-maxing and experience?

Problem with this reasoning is that I press alt-tab. You don’t have to be experienced to do it.

Draco.2806:

Evans.6347:

Aah the hypocrisy!..

I think you have trouble understanding that this forum is frequented by more than one person.

I was wondering why my conversations never sound coherent… ¬¬

Thanks for your contribution.

nicknamenick.2437:

Molch.2078:

Well, can’t argue about taste. I like them.

Show helm on Charr pls.. omg i think it looks terrible (again..)

There you go

Yes half of the face sticks out. It looks like it’s just sort of stuck on there. The shoulders are colored midnight ice because I was looking at different colors. The back, ugh more of my tail jutting out of the armor. The metal “bends” around my tail. Of course there is also the typical floating parts that don’t fit the body.

That dye makes it look like it’s made out of paper.
Also, as a general remark, there are other dyes than black and white. I’m starting to think many people don’t know this.

Evans.6347:

That dye makes it look like it’s made out of paper.
Also, as a general remark, there are other dyes than black and white. I’m starting to think many people don’t know this.

True, but I think black and white shows off the contrast for the parts that can be dyed really well. If you have another color for the charr set I can take it real quick and post it.

It does cover up the clipping. The chest clips through the shoulders pretty awkwardly. Plus the stretched textures just look so bad. Considering this is supposed to be the “best” armor, it doesn’t look very good.

Its a subtle message from ANet to their payerbase.

Atleast all the armor has holes for the tails on charr, so there’s that… :/

Any ascended weapon/armor I’ve seen so far is just horrible, what happened to the art design team?

Someone’s delusional…

Machiavel.6042:

Just like you said, they don’t care about Charr. It’s all probably made on a human base skeleton and shmucked on a Charr after because they’re forced to do it.

They care enough about Charr to sell wigs in the cash shop. They just don’t care about floating armour etc. because they can’t make money from it.

Evans.6347:

Also, as a general remark, there are other dyes than black and white. I’m starting to think many people don’t know this.

Yeah, but thanks to the horrible lighting and shading in most areas of the game, they all suck.

GSSBlunaspike.4153:

True, but I think black and white shows off the contrast for the parts that can be dyed really well. If you have another color for the charr set I can take it real quick and post it.

It does cover up the clipping. The chests clips through the shoulders pretty awkwardly. Plus the stretched textures just look so bad. Considering this is supposed to be the “best” armor, it doesn’t look very good.

Assuming you’re still around, could you use something like black white red blue? Not because it’s a nice colour scheme but so we can see the four areas (assuming there are four dyeable areas)

I’m hoping the worst of the clipping will be fixed before these release. Well, I’m hoping but I’m not too hopeful.

Very nice looking armor! WOW!
Better than i was expecting xD not over the top at all! Good job Anet!

On another note what is the female sets like? I am not at home so cannot log in and check

The armor looks amazing so far but the screenshot dye combinations are horrible that are shown here XD

GSSBlunaspike.4153:

Evans.6347:

That dye makes it look like it’s made out of paper.
Also, as a general remark, there are other dyes than black and white. I’m starting to think many people don’t know this.

True, but I think black and white shows off the contrast for the parts that can be dyed really well. If you have another color for the charr set I can take it real quick and post it.

It does cover up the clipping. The chest clips through the shoulders pretty awkwardly. Plus the stretched textures just look so bad. Considering this is supposed to be the “best” armor, it doesn’t look very good.

In the spirit of the real life suits this armor was based on, at the very least use illumination dye on the ornate metallic parts and perhaps burgundy or emerald dye on the cloth parts.

Seven Star Stalker.1740:

I was going to say how WvW was going to become hell with this +Trinkets+Weapons+Bloodlust but then I remembered WvW is the disowned child of Guildwars2.

I don’t quite get why does everyone complain this stuff ruins WvW’s balance when the game mode was never and will never be balanced in the first place. Just the difference in numbers screws the balance, when your squad of 10 gets ambushed by a 50-man enemy army, no Ascended items or bloodlust is going to save you.

haviz.1340:

Evans.6347:

I’m sorry but I find such comment distasteful.
Nobody is at any point forcing you to stand there and press 1. That is your own choice.

Yes, you can do it, while being carried by others in a group. But hey, maybe you could make the whole “ordeal” a little more interesting for yourself and others by using you whole spectrum of skills.

Bah, why am I arguing this anyway. I you want to complain about your self imposed boredom, go on ahead. That’s what a forum is for after all.

I find those events distasteful. You are in a zerg of 100 players wearing cleric’s, shaman’s or any other bad gear. Using more skills doesn’t make it more interesting because you’re basically attacking a dummy.

And I’m actually doing more damage than other zerglings by spamming 1. Not to mention that guardian with a sword or warrior with an axe actually deals the most damage by using only autoattacks.

You see, this is the problem. People rant about world events being spamming 1 and akitteng, then release a world event which requires co-ordination and strategy like Tequatl, and everyone calls for a nerf.

i always suspected the designer has a fetish for creepy crawlies.

now, i confirmed it.

darkace.8925:

Which of the following statements do you guys find to be the most insulting?

“we want everyone to be on an equal power base”

“we don’t make grindy games, we leave the grind to other MMOs”

“we don’t have to add content to keep players playing as long as possible” + “we can focus on what’s fun”

Lol. Anet… I like how you always (read as never) tell the truth

yuuuuck, i have a job for my transmutation crystals

Lol. I’d rather do cof p1 for a month than farm ascended seriously.

Evans.6347:

GSSBlunaspike.4153:

Evans.6347:

That dye makes it look like it’s made out of paper.
Also, as a general remark, there are other dyes than black and white. I’m starting to think many people don’t know this.

True, but I think black and white shows off the contrast for the parts that can be dyed really well. If you have another color for the charr set I can take it real quick and post it.

It does cover up the clipping. The chest clips through the shoulders pretty awkwardly. Plus the stretched textures just look so bad. Considering this is supposed to be the “best” armor, it doesn’t look very good.

In the spirit of the real life suits this armor was based on, at the very least use illumination dye on the ornate metallic parts and perhaps burgundy or emerald dye on the cloth parts.

There you go illumination. The problem is that the dye doesn’t work like that on the armor. The leg plates are all one color. It makes the outer part really shiny, and in between kind of an off color.

edit added black white red blue in that order.

Xae Isareth.1364:

You see, this is the problem. People rant about world events being spamming 1 and akitteng, then release a world event which requires co-ordination and strategy like Tequatl, and everyone calls for a nerf.

The problem you face here is that those are different people.

GSSBlunaspike.4153:

The problem is that the dye doesn’t work like that on the armor. The leg plates are all one color. It makes the outer part really shiny, and in between kind of an off color.

Wait what? That’s a horrible design choice =/
And that still looks horribly cheap xD

Hahaha ! Thanks OP i seriously lol’d when i saw the picture

Sirendor.1394:

Lol. I’d rather do cof p1 for a month than farm ascended seriously.

I don’t think I’ve ever grinded Ascended stuff and currently my banks overflown with them to the extent I needed to stack them on alts. The game chucks ascended mats at you for doing anything other than afk at LA or sPvP.

What I do find frustrating however, is the crafting requirement. It’s a uphill climb to 500 DIYing on your own, it should cap at 420 or something.

darkace.8925:

You know, TC, you raise an excellent question. I’d actually love to see a developer justify ascended armor after they told us ascended weapons were only being added to “bridge the game between exotic and Legendary”. If there’s no Legendary armor, then what gap is there to be bridged? I actually find that rather insulting.

Which of the following statements do you guys find to be the most insulting?

“ascended gear is to be a bridge between exotic and Legendary”

“everyone, including casual players, should have the best statistical gear by the time they reach level 80”

“we didn’t expect players to get exotic so quickly” + “we intended to add ascended gear from the start”

“we want everyone to be on an equal power base”

“we don’t make grindy games, we leave the grind to other MMOs”

“we don’t have to add content to keep players playing as long as possible” + “we can focus on what’s fun”

“in this game, the grind is all about cosmetic upgrades, vertical progression”

I wonder if they really take the time to sit and actually think about the updates. I mean look at GW1 : more skills, more builds freedom, you were grinding for SKINS not for stats. This game will soon be like a WoW 2 if Devs keep going that way with the gears.
We want FUN content, not grinding stuff, it’s boring and takes player away from Guild Wars 2 simply because there are games that are full of fun and not grind (GTA games, Saints Row, Left 4 Dead, and lot lot more).