Guild Wars 2

cmud.5689:

TheFallenAngel.1320:

cmud.5689 the point of topics like that is not that we want a-net to give all a free precursor u know…

But that is exactly what the OP means and complains about…. “I play for x hours per day, I deserve a pre drop”" Free or not, he expressed that he does not like the odds of getting one / methods of obtaining it.

I’ll use small words as you’ve (oops used a conjunction there)(oops again conjunction means a combined word) misread what should have been very simply understood. My issue is with how precursors are RNG based drops. I’ve never asked for anything for free. L2R.

FearedbytheGods.8617:

cmud.5689:

But that is exactly what the OP means and complains about….

You seem to be arguing an economic rationale for why it happens the way it does?

He’s talking about meaningful progression, taking meaningful steps towards acquisition, that can be difficult to acquire.

If the number crunchers can’t set up a system that incorporates that without blowing out the market then that’s their fault.

Why create a market for something that has nothing to do with playing the game? Where is the reward for being good at WvW or PvP for example?

There’s nothing legendary about RNG/gold grinding.

If this is the posed question, than yes. I agree that the way the system is incorporated is pure grind. The issue is that this ship has sadly passed. I am all in for people to get their legendaries…but seeing the scavenger hunt ending up on the drawboard yet again, I dont think meanigful progress will happen anytime soon. Sadly.

Piogre.2164:

Im Mudbone.1437:

I can’t prove it but I believe there is an account RNG conspiracy. {:-þ -LOL

Conspiracy? no. But there is a problem somewhere- I know of people who’ve gotten several prec’s in only a couple hundred forgings, and others who get none in over a thousand- I myself have gotten exactly one, somewhere between 2-3 hundred

I’m inclined to think A-Net kittened up somewhere in the rng code, and used account id as one of the seeds for the generator- that would explain why some accounts seem blessed or cursed with forge luck.

This is Exactly my point. At what point are those of us who’ve dropped LOADS of rares and even exos into the forge supposed to catch up with the luck train?

FearedbytheGods.8617:

Aidenwolf.5964:

Nothing legendary about that.

^ This.

I’ve fought a number of people when roaming in WvW who had legendary weapons only to watch them faceplant as fighters. Same said for allies who will ping a bunch of legendary weapons in map chat only to watch them die if hard fights EVERY SINGLE TIME.

The sort of people that have multiple legendary weapons are people who are good with spreadsheets or just use rl money to buy them.

When it comes to actually playing the game, it’s a different story….

I just slowly saved over my time in the game. I eventually made Twilight. If you put gold and mats aside every day you play, you’ll be able to afford to make one, too.

I’m not the best player, and I’m not the worst. Sometimes I die and sometimes I don’t. It just means I’ve played all aspects of the game to get the components.

Aidenwolf.5964:

Piogre.2164:

Im Mudbone.1437:

I can’t prove it but I believe there is an account RNG conspiracy. {:-þ -LOL

Conspiracy? no. But there is a problem somewhere- I know of people who’ve gotten several prec’s in only a couple hundred forgings, and others who get none in over a thousand- I myself have gotten exactly one, somewhere between 2-3 hundred

I’m inclined to think A-Net kittened up somewhere in the rng code, and used account id as one of the seeds for the generator- that would explain why some accounts seem blessed or cursed with forge luck.

This is Exactly my point. At what point are those of us who’ve dropped LOADS of rares and even exos into the forge supposed to catch up with the luck train?

RNG = random number generator. And you described it. Now I seriously do not know whether you are looking for a meaningful way of obtaining pres or just hate on people who had more luck than you….

@@FearedbytheGods.8617
See? Told you he just complains on his luck.

Aidenwolf.5964:

Piogre.2164:

Im Mudbone.1437:

I can’t prove it but I believe there is an account RNG conspiracy. {:-þ -LOL

Conspiracy? no. But there is a problem somewhere- I know of people who’ve gotten several prec’s in only a couple hundred forgings, and others who get none in over a thousand- I myself have gotten exactly one, somewhere between 2-3 hundred

I’m inclined to think A-Net kittened up somewhere in the rng code, and used account id as one of the seeds for the generator- that would explain why some accounts seem blessed or cursed with forge luck.

This is Exactly my point. At what point are those of us who’ve dropped LOADS of rares and even exos into the forge supposed to catch up with the luck train?

Stop doing that. Sell them or sell the ectos and just buy it.

Sylv.5324:

Aidenwolf.5964:

Piogre.2164:

Im Mudbone.1437:

I can’t prove it but I believe there is an account RNG conspiracy. {:-þ -LOL

Conspiracy? no. But there is a problem somewhere- I know of people who’ve gotten several prec’s in only a couple hundred forgings, and others who get none in over a thousand- I myself have gotten exactly one, somewhere between 2-3 hundred

I’m inclined to think A-Net kittened up somewhere in the rng code, and used account id as one of the seeds for the generator- that would explain why some accounts seem blessed or cursed with forge luck.

This is Exactly my point. At what point are those of us who’ve dropped LOADS of rares and even exos into the forge supposed to catch up with the luck train?

Stop doing that. Sell them or sell the ectos and just buy it.

I unno.

I’ve got two out of the forge so far.

Works for me. \0/

Myst.5783:

Sylv.5324:

Aidenwolf.5964:

Piogre.2164:

Im Mudbone.1437:

I can’t prove it but I believe there is an account RNG conspiracy. {:-þ -LOL

Conspiracy? no. But there is a problem somewhere- I know of people who’ve gotten several prec’s in only a couple hundred forgings, and others who get none in over a thousand- I myself have gotten exactly one, somewhere between 2-3 hundred

I’m inclined to think A-Net kittened up somewhere in the rng code, and used account id as one of the seeds for the generator- that would explain why some accounts seem blessed or cursed with forge luck.

This is Exactly my point. At what point are those of us who’ve dropped LOADS of rares and even exos into the forge supposed to catch up with the luck train?

Stop doing that. Sell them or sell the ectos and just buy it.

I unno.

I’ve got two out of the forge so far.

Works for me. \0/

I’ve gotten one from the forge, and one from buying off the TP after the forge failed. If folks keep trying and failing, then they should stop throwing good money in after bad. If your RNG is amazing, by all means.

You’re doing it wrong

http://imgur.com/a/csqYt

Zepidel.5349:

You could work a week at a minimum wage job

I hate seeing this as a reply to these kind of threads.

Firstly minimum wage is different in every country (IF there is a minimum wage).
Many people here are students.
Many others have families/bills/mortgage.

Not everyone can afford to buy gems to convert to gold. Not everyone sees it as a justified expenditure either.
(for example, I have no problem buying a skin on gemstore or a gathering tool, but I HATE the idea of converting gems to gold. )

Anet needs to come up with another way for these percursors. Yeah they shouldn’t be completely easy, but you shouldn’t have to pay or play an unknown number of hours.
(notice the main problem is unknown.) The RNG in this game is dreadful.

Aidenwolf.5964:

Taku.6352:

4.2k hours played since headstart, +1k gold down the forge, 0 precursor drops yet 4 legendaries and 1 precursor waiting to be crafted all thanks to the wonders of the TP.

If you want a legendary then just buy the kitten thing from the TP.

Nothing legendary about that.

Nothing Legendary about an RNG drop either. It’s either purchased or randomly rewarded for doing nothing special. We need a precursor challenge/hunt to justify the name “Legendary.”

I have 2 legendaries, I got the precursor on the forge, the first one was the legend, I used dungeons exotic staffs got it at the second try. Then I wasted 220 gold in the forge and don’t get nothing, don’t will do this never again. So i decide save dungeons tokens went i got 2400 of each dungeon (5000 of AC because i don’t like arah) I made exotic swords and try again got the precursor at the third try. So my advice is that do dungeons save a lot of tokens and use it to beg on the forge. I don’t know for sure but it looks like the dungeon weapons works better.

Doing dungeons you get gold and mats, and the exotic weapons that you made using 4 dungeons weapons can be sell, so you always get profy.

Sorry for my bad english.

Seras.5702:

Aidenwolf.5964:

Taku.6352:

4.2k hours played since headstart, +1k gold down the forge, 0 precursor drops yet 4 legendaries and 1 precursor waiting to be crafted all thanks to the wonders of the TP.

If you want a legendary then just buy the kitten thing from the TP.

Nothing legendary about that.

Nothing Legendary about an RNG drop either. It’s either purchased or randomly rewarded for doing nothing special. We need a precursor challenge/hunt to justify the name “Legendary.”

You realize the “hunt” is just going to be more gathering mats, right?

I can’t see how they’d introduce anything truly challenging in this game for a precursor.

Myst.5783:

Seras.5702:

Aidenwolf.5964:

Taku.6352:

4.2k hours played since headstart, +1k gold down the forge, 0 precursor drops yet 4 legendaries and 1 precursor waiting to be crafted all thanks to the wonders of the TP.

If you want a legendary then just buy the kitten thing from the TP.

Nothing legendary about that.

Nothing Legendary about an RNG drop either. It’s either purchased or randomly rewarded for doing nothing special. We need a precursor challenge/hunt to justify the name “Legendary.”

You realize the “hunt” is just going to be more gathering mats, right?

I can’t see how they’d introduce anything truly challenging in this game for a precursor.

Imagine if they gated a precursor behind something as difficult as Liadri?

That would make so many people rage.

Well, Liadri wasn’t that difficult. But the 6 orb achievement was hard. I didn’t get it.

Vol.7601:

Myst.5783:

Seras.5702:

Aidenwolf.5964:

Taku.6352:

4.2k hours played since headstart, +1k gold down the forge, 0 precursor drops yet 4 legendaries and 1 precursor waiting to be crafted all thanks to the wonders of the TP.

If you want a legendary then just buy the kitten thing from the TP.

Nothing legendary about that.

Nothing Legendary about an RNG drop either. It’s either purchased or randomly rewarded for doing nothing special. We need a precursor challenge/hunt to justify the name “Legendary.”

You realize the “hunt” is just going to be more gathering mats, right?

I can’t see how they’d introduce anything truly challenging in this game for a precursor.

Imagine if they gated a precursor behind something as difficult as Liadri?

That would make so many people rage.

Well, Liadri wasn’t that difficult. But the 6 orb achievement was hard. I didn’t get it.

At least then it could be called a “Legendary.”

Vol.7601:

Myst.5783:

Seras.5702:

Aidenwolf.5964:

Taku.6352:

4.2k hours played since headstart, +1k gold down the forge, 0 precursor drops yet 4 legendaries and 1 precursor waiting to be crafted all thanks to the wonders of the TP.

If you want a legendary then just buy the kitten thing from the TP.

Nothing legendary about that.

Nothing Legendary about an RNG drop either. It’s either purchased or randomly rewarded for doing nothing special. We need a precursor challenge/hunt to justify the name “Legendary.”

You realize the “hunt” is just going to be more gathering mats, right?

I can’t see how they’d introduce anything truly challenging in this game for a precursor.

Imagine if they gated a precursor behind something as difficult as Liadri?

That would make so many people rage.

Well, Liadri wasn’t that difficult. But the 6 orb achievement was hard. I didn’t get it.

Liadri wasn’t that hard the camera angle just sucked so you could possibly watch the entire battlefield. And as a mesmer I didn’t have the speed to reach the rifts.

Vol.7601:

You’re doing it wrong

http://imgur.com/a/csqYt

Au contraire, Vol. I’m doing the exact same thing as you, I’m just not lucky. Now how about sharing.

Aidenwolf.5964:

cmud.5689:

Aidenwolf.5964:

Many players will find this topic uneccesary, irrelevant, or a threat to your income because you make a kitten ton selling precursors you are lucky enough to forge but I don’t care. I have been playing GW2 since early access (I was in beta too, but that doesn’t count) and I have forged 1000s of weapons, done countless dungeons, WvW, and events without a single precursor drop.

I feel like my account has a hex on it, some quirk in the coding that prevents nice things from being added to my loot table and I’m tired of it. It’s time to end the nonsensical RNG where legendary precursors are concerned.

Increasing the supply/ ease-up the way precursors are obtained will make the legendary weapon you are looking to craft cost even more than now…. Go ahead and calculate how much $$$ does it cost to obtain all the T6 mats, Globs, Clovers, gift-specific materials, etc, etc… Now imagine what will happen to the prices of ALL these materials when an influx of people desiring a legendary come around. GG.

Spoken like someone who gets drops.

Got mine first and only drop out of the tp.

Yeah, 800 exotic greatswords and over 2000 rare greatswords into the forge…nothing to show for it. For a long time I threw ever single rare weapon I got into the forge in sets of 4 of the same….no precursors. I ran dungeons for months and threw all tokens into making exotic greatswords….no precursor. I went after and got every slayer acheivement as well as most of the weapon killer achievements, no precursor.

I’ve had all gifts to make 1 legendary for 9 months now, and gifts to make a second legendary since around december. I can actually make either twilight or sunrise since I have gifts for both. Never seen a precursor at all in this game and been playing since launch.

I’m one of those also that no longer even congratulate someone when they get their precursor….I’m bitter. I had a friend join the game 2 months ago…he got his first precursor (the shield) doing Lion’s arch events with me during the first part of the escape from lions arch event. Got his second two nights ago doing a fractal run with me…as well as an ascended weapons box (something I have also never seen).

RNG hates me. I really was looking forward to a scavanger hunt or some quest to go and get precursors….but, not happening this feature update.

Aidenwolf.5964:

(oops used a conjunction there)(oops again conjunction means a combined word)

yes you did and no it doesn’t.

the L2R was a nice touch.

A++ would read again.

Moshari.8570:

I’m one of those also that no longer even congratulate someone when they get their precursor….I’m bitter.

I see more of these kind of expressions and personally feel the same way.

ANET GIVE US MEANINGFUL PROGRESSION FOR THE LOVE OF ALL KITTENS.

Im an avid PvPer and come to WvW every so often. A few months ago I took my PvP friend for the first time. He got the hunter as loot from killing an invader……. In PvP the hunter is a skin that is easily obtained so he already had a few of these… thinking it was worthless he equiped it for the skin. Nonetheless he got the hunter from being in PvE for 30mins and has since never returned.

I had a couple ideas for Arena Net to help with pre-cursors. First idea was making them purchasable using Laurels for like 150-200(200 is max I would ever pay) Laurels. I mean, you already spend roughly 3 months gathering, crafting, and fighting various creatures(and people). Why not just have people spend that effort on a tangible goal. Being able to purchase a pre-cursor from the Laurel Vendor for like 150 or 175 Laurels. Isnt the Legendary suppose to be proof of Mastery over every aspect of the game?

Other idea(and less thought out) would be a pre-cursor for the price of 1k dungeon tokens from every dungeon. So roughly 8k dungeon tokens. This method would at least get some other less popular dungeons more populated again.

Gerolux.5978:

I had a couple ideas for Arena Net to help with pre-cursors. First idea was making them purchasable using Laurels for like 150-200(200 is max I would ever pay) Laurels. I mean, you already spend roughly 3 months gathering, crafting, and fighting various creatures(and people). Why not just have people spend that effort on a tangible goal. Being able to purchase a pre-cursor from the Laurel Vendor for like 150 or 175 Laurels. Isnt the Legendary suppose to be proof of Mastery over every aspect of the game?

Other idea(and less thought out) would be a pre-cursor for the price of 1k dungeon tokens from every dungeon. So roughly 8k dungeon tokens. This method would at least get some other less popular dungeons more populated again.

I agree that precursors should have more guaranteed ways of acquiring them (other than TP), and this is the way to do it.

Like your examples, the quantities have to be really high in order to offset the guaranteed acquisition

Vol.7601:

Gerolux.5978:

I had a couple ideas for Arena Net to help with pre-cursors. First idea was making them purchasable using Laurels for like 150-200(200 is max I would ever pay) Laurels. I mean, you already spend roughly 3 months gathering, crafting, and fighting various creatures(and people). Why not just have people spend that effort on a tangible goal. Being able to purchase a pre-cursor from the Laurel Vendor for like 150 or 175 Laurels. Isnt the Legendary suppose to be proof of Mastery over every aspect of the game?

Other idea(and less thought out) would be a pre-cursor for the price of 1k dungeon tokens from every dungeon. So roughly 8k dungeon tokens. This method would at least get some other less popular dungeons more populated again.

I agree that precursors should have more guaranteed ways of acquiring them (other than TP), and this is the way to do it.

Like your examples, the quantities have to be really high in order to offset the guaranteed acquisition

I actually like these ideas as well. It would give me something to work towards besides gold.

I got Dusk as a drop, once. Some friends and I were in Queensdale, they went to Shadow Behemoth, I was in the water by the temple doing daily aquatic. I killed a firefly while in the water, decided to step out and loot its corpse, and there was Dusk. I sold it. This was back when it was worth 600 gold. Yes, that is a very good drop.

The thing is, it seems like every single ounce of my luck, since launch, was taken up by that one good drop. Anything ever involving RNG, I fail horrifically. I never get good drops, ever, from anything, aside from that singular instance. The most notable drop I ever got aside from that was getting Celestial from a uniden dye I got during the dredge fractal, and celestial was only worth about 12 gold or less at the time, and I used it. That’s it. I think that if I had more consistent luck, I’d have made a lot more gold than that 600. I very sincerely doubt I’ll ever see another precursor in my inventory.

I just really hate the RNG in this game.

Moshari.8570:

I’m one of those also that no longer even congratulate someone when they get their precursor….I’m bitter.
[…]
RNG hates me. I really was looking forward to a scavanger hunt or some quest to go and get precursors….but, not happening this feature update.

RNG hates almost all of us. It has been especially devious with me. After dumping a few hundred random rares in the forge, it gave me back…

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/The_Bard

…which I could have probably just bought on the TP for less than 80 gold. It’s like it is trying to convince me that there really is something good in there for me if I will…just…keep…feeding…the…beast.

Zomorros is evil. :-(

I got Zap in a random mob drop and forged The Hunter (2.7K hours in game, 134% MF and I’ve spent around $800 on gems in 14 months). I tried for a second hunter to sell (I love the skin so my charr warrior has it) and went through almost 4000 mastercraft rifles without a second hit. The first one took close to 3000 MC rifles.

I don’t buy rares as the sheer volume needed is nearly impossible to afford, the rifles were 1.99S each and RNG is RNG. I just boiled down the MCs to rares and then the rares to exotics. I average 6-8 rares per 100 MCs and about 5 exotics from 100 rares. It takes a TON of time and patience but it does happen.

The rarity of precursors / legendaries is not a conspiracy – a conspiracy is secret and it is no secret that Anet wants players to buy stuff from the store.

I figure I’ll just keep playing until I feel like I have no choice but to buy a precursor (from either source) and then I’ll quit the game. I don’t like feeling forced to grind or pay.

Or…. stop throwing stuff in the Mystic Toilet, sell it on the TP/salvage it instead, and just save up to by a precursor. What you’re trying to do by using the forge is like trying to buy a new car by spending all the money you get from your job on lottery tickets, when you could just save up the money from your job and buy it that way.

It is entirely possible to log in for 1 minute in the next year and make more money than someone that played 1000 hours. That’s the true nature of RNG.

I remember in GW1 they had those books which tracked the dungeons you completed in both easy and hard mode. Once you filled them up you got a really nice reward for it. It took me a hell of a lot of time to complete them but once I did I was so owed by the feeling of accomplishment that I had that I didn’t want to turn the books in for the reward. I didn’t even care for the reward! I wish the precursor hunt had something similar. I really miss that kind of feeling.

Kit.3986:

I only bought my precursor, but I still need to do the farming of… five other T6 materials, along with 100 Charged Lodestones.

Precursor-wise, it’d be kinda neat if there was a challenging, actually challenging and hard to defeat without actual teamwork, boss or encounter where it had a higher rate of dropping from. Or able to be bought with tokens gathered from doing the encounter a set number of times, or a train of such encounters that could be titled “Precursor to the Legend” or something like that, and all lead up to getting a particular precursor.

It’d make the item seem a bit more Legendary and a little less straight up boring grinding. (Only a little less, since you wouldn’t need to grind up gold for the precursor, but would need to grind up the other materials/gold for the other materials >.>)

I’m very interested in this concept actually. i think it’d be awesome to have to go on a quest line once you’re level 80 that takes you through some level 80 zones (maybe even some dungeon instances that can be solo’d or done with friends) to acquire necessary info or things to finally find some instanced boss to gain a particular precursor. They could even do something specific in EoTM for WvW players that want to avoid PvE stuff and the progressions they spoke about for PvPers.

An ex guildmate of mine that doesn’t play a lot a got (less than 1k ap) threw 24 greatswords in a row. He got Dusk and Dawn.
RNG’s working as expected.

OP, I suggest you take a different approach. Rather than sink all that money in the Mystic Toilet, I suggest you vendor/salvage/TP the items and use the gold to BUY the precursor.

By now you would’ve had enough gold to purchase 2 pre-cursors. Since taking this approach in December (mind you I was gone for january/february) I am up 300g in 1.5 months. That would mean a 3 month investment of just vendoring/trading stuff for 1 precursor.

Crossaber.8934:

If we can do a “precursor quest” here and there, bang, got a precursor, what is so different to free precursor? For example, someone suggested AP chest, its a matter of time, so everyone can get a precursor, and everyone go craft their legendary.

Everyone who has played the game for long enough will be able to get a precursor, and indeed they should.
They are Veterans of the game. They have played the game and done the things that earned them AP.
The most frustration comes from exactly these players. They have played the game so much in fact, that they have all the materials laying about for a legendary to craft.
Let them have their precursor.
Let them earn it through playing the game and not because they farmed the gold for it. Farming isn’t legendary, nor is flipping the TP.
On the other hand 10k AP is a year worth of actually playing the game.
Just do it, please.

I still hope in vain for a real quest like event that leads to a Precursor. Something that involves defeating all the major world bosses (maybe not the newer ones, or maybe the newer ones specifically cause it’s that much harder. As long as actually completing the event guaranteed an account bound item relevant to the quest.) Then bringing them somewhere, to make another account bound item which is needed to enter a mini dungeon, and then used to open a chest that has another item. And so on until you’ve done enough sufficiently hard things that you get items to dump in the forge and the result is the Precursor of your choice.

Even better would be a different series of events per precursor, but I think just one is hard enough.

Forging rares did nothing for me. I bought the precursor for my first legendary (made it around seven months after the game launched). I got extremely lucky and got the precursor for my second one from the forge late last summer, after less than 20g of exotics spent. I got The Lover from a dungeon run about six months after that.

So, it seems like about once every six months I’ll get really lucky with RNG. The rest of the time I’m swimming in my greens and blues. Meanwhile I know a person who has gotten at least four precursors from the forge, as well as lots of rare item drops from events. RNG is RNG is RNG.

Aidenwolf.5964:

I’ll use small words as you’ve (oops used a conjunction there)(oops again conjunction means a combined word) misread what should have been very simply understood. My issue is with how precursors are RNG based drops. I’ve never asked for anything for free. L2R.

You meant “contraction”, but I’ll (there’s one!) forgive it. As it is, we really should be getting minor progress tokens for it, instead of hoping for one really lucky score.

Example:
We should get Precursor Fragments per Mystic Forge fusion (0-1 per Rare used or 1 per Exotic). Now these can be put directly into a formula similar to the one below:
250 Precursor Fragments (indicating significant investment
1 Exotic weapon of the precursor desired (to guide the transmute)
250 Philosopher Stones (or 25 skill points, of which there is a huge glut for long-time characters)
1 Writ of [Precursor’s name] (new item with the actual formula for the precursor, purchasable from a weapon vendor for karma)

And, bam, done. Between the various proposed costs (karma, skill points, and gold), with an eventually guaranteed result, you’d have players snapping up rares and exotics off Black Lion faster than ever.

Let’s make Evon happy for once and get this solution in place, eh?

So I was reading this thread whilst there were no Zaps on the TP, and I got a Zap for 75g in the Mystic Forge. Then my friend got the Legend for 200g and another person got Spark. I’m not saying we’re special, but I thought my account was hexed too since I played since launch and not one single drop from me. There’s always hope that the RNG would come and save your lives.

Precursor rage… haha

I’d love to get a useful exotic now and again. I got 2 exotic Cobalts killing the Spider in Kessex Hills in a week and an exotic warhorn. I have gotten one other exotic armor that couldn’t be used by my class. I have received a total of 4 exotics in about 16 months of play 10 hours or so a week.

RNG can be pretty demoralizing. I’d probably mess my pants if I got a precursor as a drop, which I’d never expect.

Rauderi.8706:

Aidenwolf.5964:

I’ll use small words as you’ve (oops used a conjunction there)(oops again conjunction means a combined word) misread what should have been very simply understood. My issue is with how precursors are RNG based drops. I’ve never asked for anything for free. L2R.

You meant “contraction”, but I’ll (there’s one!) forgive it. As it is, we really should be getting minor progress tokens for it, instead of hoping for one really lucky score.

Example:
We should get Precursor Fragments per Mystic Forge fusion (0-1 per Rare used or 1 per Exotic). Now these can be put directly into a formula similar to the one below:
250 Precursor Fragments (indicating significant investment
1 Exotic weapon of the precursor desired (to guide the transmute)
250 Philosopher Stones (or 25 skill points, of which there is a huge glut for long-time characters)
1 Writ of [Precursor’s name] (new item with the actual formula for the precursor, purchasable from a weapon vendor for karma)

And, bam, done. Between the various proposed costs (karma, skill points, and gold), with an eventually guaranteed result, you’d have players snapping up rares and exotics off Black Lion faster than ever.

Let’s make Evon happy for once and get this solution in place, eh?

Well done on the correction and I love your idea on precursor scraps.

I gave up on getting a precursor. It literally felt like I’d never get one from the Mystic Forge, so I stopped feeding crap into it. 3k+ hours into a game, you’d expect to have looted at least one precursor, yet some accounts have a “Curse” on them (like mine) where you will never be able to loot anything good.

Legendary weapons are a true testament to ones skill at Guild Wars 2. A badge of honor for slaying mighty beasts and findings ones way through the never ending maze like dungeons littered with evil.

My Legendary weapon is called The Sarcasm. It is wielded with two hands… or one hand if you’re nasty.

MrDmajor.7084:

Legendary weapons are a true testament to ones skill at Guild Wars 2. A badge of honor for slaying mighty beasts and findings ones way through the never ending maze like dungeons littered with evil.

My Legendary weapon is called The Sarcasm. It is wielded with two hands… or one hand if you’re nasty.

You win the internet.

True masters wield it back-handed.

And dripping.

Anet needs to impmenet finally Scavenger Hunts as a system for getting guaranteed precursors and the option to finally craft them.

Yes, that would reduce the costs of precursors and legendary weapons in the TP by a large chunk due to precursors getting larger offers then, but who cares, its so or so nothing legendary about it to by these weapons from TP, so i have absolute 0 sympathy for those people, which do make these weapons only, just to put them into TP for profits …

I’m personally just disappointed enough, that Anet doesn’t make them finally with the patch at the 15th of April complete accountbound so that this TP nonsense with legendaries finally ends completely….

If GW2 would finally have craftable precursors and scavenger hunts that are both method of character progressionithout 0 stupiud braindead RNG in them, then the game would be sooooo much better

Hi all,

juste finished ACp1 and i’m here to express my frustation… Well, the thing is, I did p1 with pugs … fine.

We arrive in the scepter part, I solo this part, so all the 4 others people stand here and do … nothing… Fine again BUT , one man, a war, drop dusk from the chest (me, I got 3 blue like always ….) !!

At this moment I’m like WTF man, what’s your mf ? He said “120%” … And he had like 3300 ap …

I know rng is rng but I can’t accept the fact that a player who just stand here and do nothing when I’m doing the stuff got dusk …

It’s so frustrating since I’m, for about 2 weeks now, saving to buy dusk (since I know I don’t have a lucky account) and POUF, in front of me a random guy drop it … Currently, I’m not feeling rewarded for playing this game …

ps: sorry guys for my bad english, it’s not my first language…

I have been playing since day one and never got one. Not a big deal to me. I play with Exotics and that is good enough for me. I was never the flashy player at all.

This all sounds like buyers remorse to me. You shouldn’t gamble what you aren’t willing to lose. And if you want a sure bet, then save the gold and buy a precursor. If you have been playing since headstart and don’t have a precursor yet, then it is your fault or you are doing something REALLY wrong. It’s not that hard to make the gold in a few months of normal play and even less if you specifically grind for it.

Also you all seem to like to attach some kind of “you must be a good player if you have a legendary” tag to people with legendaries. Legendaries are nothing more than a time sink. There is no skill whatsoever involved in getting one.

So with that said, again if after almost what..2 years? you don’t have a precursor much less a legendary, then it is your fault. Don’t cry about the RNG, the mystic toilet, Anet, how life is unfair. Just either set a reasonable amount of gold you can/want to earn a day and begin saving or just play normal and once you get enough, buy a precursor. I personally just set daily goals of how much gold I wanted to earn a day and tried to meet it and since headstart I am up to 5 legendaries and working on a 6th atm. Also, I have gambled the mystic toilet twice in that whole time for a total of maybe 100g. I just dabbled here and there but didn’t count on getting anything. I just saved gold and bought the precursors I wanted. It’s just like real life, if you want a big ticket item, you save and save and buy it….or you can save a little and then go to the horse track or casino and gamble it and hope you make back triple the cash but in reality, you will probably lose it all and rage since we all know the odds are in the houses favor.

Sauzo, I agree with what you said, I know, one day I’ll get dusk if I keep saving my money. The fact is, “legendaries” are for “legendaries persons”. People here, are complaining about the fact that the “legendary quest” for getting those weapons are… Gold farming ! Wow that’s amazing !

And, I agree again that some person can be lucky but I just don’t understand why a person which do nothing can got dusk from a chest. If this person had helped me, it would be okay but, right now, it’s not.