Guild Wars 2

I never had expected to get a precursor, I’m doing wvw most of the time, got only once an exotic and twice ascended rings there. The day before I got one, I was making jokes about complaining people who are chasing a legendary, buying sieges with all of my badges of honor, upgrade them to superior sieges and put them into the guild bank.
Next day, I have open a chest in Scarlett secret chamber and I found the Legend. Every other precursor I would have sold in the trading post, but this is the only weapon I would take.
I hate dungeons…

Aidenwolf.5964:

Taku.6352:

4.2k hours played since headstart, +1k gold down the forge, 0 precursor drops yet 4 legendaries and 1 precursor waiting to be crafted all thanks to the wonders of the TP.

If you want a legendary then just buy the kitten thing from the TP.

Nothing legendary about that.

Then win it in the upcoming PvP tournament.

Probably the most well deserved set of legendary items and precursors ever.

As others have mentioned, they shouldn’t have named them “Legendary” weapons. If these weapons are something that simply take a lot of work to get, they shouldn’t be purchasable and there should be a finite amount of work that everyone can do to get one. As they are, “Legendaries” aren’t really special. Its like being able to purchase Excalibur.

Sauzo.6821:

This all sounds like buyers remorse to me. You shouldn’t gamble what you aren’t willing to lose. And if you want a sure bet, then save the gold and buy a precursor. If you have been playing since headstart and don’t have a precursor yet, then it is your fault or you are doing something REALLY wrong. It’s not that hard to make the gold in a few months of normal play and even less if you specifically grind for it.

Also you all seem to like to attach some kind of “you must be a good player if you have a legendary” tag to people with legendaries. Legendaries are nothing more than a time sink. There is no skill whatsoever involved in getting one.

So with that said, again if after almost what..2 years? you don’t have a precursor much less a legendary, then it is your fault. Don’t cry about the RNG, the mystic toilet, Anet, how life is unfair. Just either set a reasonable amount of gold you can/want to earn a day and begin saving or just play normal and once you get enough, buy a precursor. I personally just set daily goals of how much gold I wanted to earn a day and tried to meet it and since headstart I am up to 5 legendaries and working on a 6th atm. Also, I have gambled the mystic toilet twice in that whole time for a total of maybe 100g. I just dabbled here and there but didn’t count on getting anything. I just saved gold and bought the precursors I wanted. It’s just like real life, if you want a big ticket item, you save and save and buy it….or you can save a little and then go to the horse track or casino and gamble it and hope you make back triple the cash but in reality, you will probably lose it all and rage since we all know the odds are in the houses favor.

Cry is a bad word to use. This thread is about a punitive RNG system that in cases like my own, has given me nothing for my efforts over the last 19 months.

As I said in my OP you may disagree with this post because you’ve been lucky and I personally couldn’t care less.

Taka.1264:

Hi all,

juste finished ACp1 and i’m here to express my frustation… Well, the thing is, I did p1 with pugs … fine.

We arrive in the scepter part, I solo this part, so all the 4 others people stand here and do … nothing… Fine again BUT , one man, a war, drop dusk from the chest (me, I got 3 blue like always ….) !!

At this moment I’m like WTF man, what’s your mf ? He said “120%” … And he had like 3300 ap …

I know rng is rng but I can’t accept the fact that a player who just stand here and do nothing when I’m doing the stuff got dusk …

It’s so frustrating since I’m, for about 2 weeks now, saving to buy dusk (since I know I don’t have a lucky account) and POUF, in front of me a random guy drop it … Currently, I’m not feeling rewarded for playing this game …

ps: sorry guys for my bad english, it’s not my first language…

There is ZERO REWARD for playing this game, welcome to GW2 where the only ones getting anything are the makers.

I got my moots precursor before it had effects, 15g in 2012

Since then though, crafted near 30 ascended pieces, bought emperor title… Stop rolling the forge people, make 20g a night in a couple hours of dungeons/bosses and delay that gratification for a couple months! Gotta have something to chase in this game haha, that’s why I bought emperor cuz I was out of ideas to spend on .

Xenlai.8694:

It is entirely possible to log in for 1 minute in the next year and make more money than someone that played 1000 hours. That’s the true nature of RNG.

I remember in GW1 they had those books which tracked the dungeons you completed in both easy and hard mode. Once you filled them up you got a really nice reward for it. It took me a hell of a lot of time to complete them but once I did I was so owed by the feeling of accomplishment that I had that I didn’t want to turn the books in for the reward. I didn’t even care for the reward! I wish the precursor hunt had something similar. I really miss that kind of feeling.

Okay I’m going to have to call this one. Maybe you’re not remembering what the reward was in Guild Wars 1 for those books, but it wasnt’ a legendary reward. Mostly people farmed them to get points on specific title tracks.

Your reward for a completed standard dungeon book was 40.000 reputation points (about the equivalent of 4 EotN Vanquishes), 80,000 experience points (to get you skill points that I already had hundreds of) and 8k, which you could make as easily in the same time farming feathers. This isn’t a great rewards. The reward for hard mode was about 30% more.

You didn’t get a great weapon skin, or a precusor, or a piece of armor. You got points toward a title track that, had you spent the same time doing other stuff, you’d have gotten points to (possibly to different title tracks).

I agree that getting precusors in this game straight out sucks, but there’s no way you can compare this to the book rewards in Guild Wars 1, which were relatively pedestrian, even if you liked them.

I refuse to be discouraged for not getting precursor much less a legendary. While not all that happy about the RNG in this game anything you do get is something you didn’t have so you can salvage or sell it. In any case you have gained something you didn’t have before. I have seen so many people with legendaries running around now I have lost interest in even acquiring one. What I gain in this game is what I want to. I take pleasure in getting achievements, pleasure in what I can get out of the living story, meeting new folk, finding new things to do. It comes down to what is important to you. Yeah, I would like the occasional “WOW!” reward. I have gotten them here and there with some exotics I have found good use for but precursers or legendaries obviously are not my fate it seems after many, many, many hours of play. I am not sure if we ever get to craft them that I would even bother to try.

My advice : stop gambling and start saving. I bought mine…never saw it either at the forge nor in a drop.

Nage.1520:

Xenlai.8694:

It is entirely possible to log in for 1 minute in the next year and make more money than someone that played 1000 hours. That’s the true nature of RNG.

I remember in GW1 they had those books which tracked the dungeons you completed in both easy and hard mode. Once you filled them up you got a really nice reward for it. It took me a hell of a lot of time to complete them but once I did I was so owed by the feeling of accomplishment that I had that I didn’t want to turn the books in for the reward. I didn’t even care for the reward! I wish the precursor hunt had something similar. I really miss that kind of feeling.

Okay I’m going to have to call this one. Maybe you’re not remembering what the reward was in Guild Wars 1 for those books, but it wasnt’ a legendary reward. Mostly people farmed them to get points on specific title tracks.

Your reward for a completed standard dungeon book was 40.000 reputation points (about the equivalent of 4 EotN Vanquishes), 80,000 experience points (to get you skill points that I already had hundreds of) and 8k, which you could make as easily in the same time farming feathers. This isn’t a great rewards. The reward for hard mode was about 30% more.

You didn’t get a great weapon skin, or a precusor, or a piece of armor. You got points toward a title track that, had you spent the same time doing other stuff, you’d have gotten points to (possibly to different title tracks).

I agree that getting precusors in this game straight out sucks, but there’s no way you can compare this to the book rewards in Guild Wars 1, which were relatively pedestrian, even if you liked them.

I beg to differ, I never farmed for those books and I acqured SEVERAL very kewl weapons(300 X’s better than what’s offered in GW2) as a REWARD for just playing the game, such as, Drago’s Flatbow, Urgoz’s Longbow, Destroyer Hornbow of Fortitude(event to obtain item to have made), Deldrimor Longbow(another event to obtain item to have made), FDS, Morgriff’s Staff , just to name a few and all of them I customized to my character(same as GW2 account bound items) so I wouldn’t be tempted to sell them because at the time most of those were worth top dollar to players. Show me ONE ITEM in GW2 that can even come close to the kewlness of those.

I don’t get it, as many above posters already stated, the current legendary is not legenary enough. All for weirder showing off is the legendary luck or legendary rich or legendary patient. No skill or ability or credit whatever. So why gambling for one?

For me, i may have legendary luck, i sold everything needed to craft legendary, i spent 300k kama for wvw exotic for forge in exchane couple gold as return. Then bang i got a dawn from loot. If i have saved up the t6 may, those 300k kama, i may have crafted my sunrise now. But i don’t grind anything, i play in my pace so maybe 3 months or so i may finish my legendary.

What i wanna say is, i am happy i got my precursor, but i am happy even i don’t. It is not required and it is not a symbol of skill or reputation. I will not gamble for a precursor, it will accept it as loot, otherwise i won’t bother saving the money to buy either.

Try placing yourself in my shoes.

The highest tier item I have ever got to drop (note: drop, not map completion or other auto rewards) is rare. And not even max level either. I think the highest level rare I ever got was level 74. And I’ve had maybe 2-3 of them drop ever in my entire play time of GW2 (been here since early access and beta as well).

I’ve never had an exotic drop, much less a precursor. Never get the rare mats, or ascended stuff from fractals. Never get the lucky rare dyes or rare mini pets from gambling with those either. Black Lion Chests always give me the worst possible loot you can get (boosters and some essences of luck). Even when I’m out and about in the world leveling an alt, I mostly get nothing but junk. It is rare that I even get a blue item, much less a green item. You can forget rares or exotics, or even the illusive precursors.

When it comes to luck in this game, I have negative. There was actually a bug a long time ago that flagged accounts to have basically a zero drop rate on everything. Supposedly they fixed that bug, but honestly, it feels like my account is still flagged. So yeah, forget precursors. It’s just never gonna happen. The RNG in GW2 is the worst I have ever experienced in any game.

I’ve never gotten a precursor and I’m not too worried about getting one much less a legendary. It is after all just some pixels.

But if I do find one, I might just salvage it for Ectos to then salvage into dust.

Or I’ll sell it at an insane price. I don’t know yet.

Im Mudbone.1437:

Taka.1264:

Hi all,

juste finished ACp1 and i’m here to express my frustation… Well, the thing is, I did p1 with pugs … fine.

We arrive in the scepter part, I solo this part, so all the 4 others people stand here and do … nothing… Fine again BUT , one man, a war, drop dusk from the chest (me, I got 3 blue like always ….) !!

At this moment I’m like WTF man, what’s your mf ? He said “120%” … And he had like 3300 ap …

I know rng is rng but I can’t accept the fact that a player who just stand here and do nothing when I’m doing the stuff got dusk …

It’s so frustrating since I’m, for about 2 weeks now, saving to buy dusk (since I know I don’t have a lucky account) and POUF, in front of me a random guy drop it … Currently, I’m not feeling rewarded for playing this game …

ps: sorry guys for my bad english, it’s not my first language…

There is ZERO REWARD for playing this game, welcome to GW2 where the only ones getting anything are the makers.

Kinda have to agree here, very punishing RNG system and not worth putting effort towards things like Legendary’s. I just log on, play for an hour or so, get my daily done and save my gold, I just do what ever I’m in the mood to do without any expectations. There are good accounts and bad accounts, those of us with bad accounts sooner or later have to make the decision to either just grind it out 1 copper at a time to progress, quit the game, or just say screw and take it for what it is and just play knowing you will never really get anywhere.

SpyderArachnid.5619:

Try placing yourself in my shoes.

The highest tier item I have ever got to drop (note: drop, not map completion or other auto rewards) is rare. And not even max level either. I think the highest level rare I ever got was level 74. And I’ve had maybe 2-3 of them drop ever in my entire play time of GW2 (been here since early access and beta as well).

I’ve never had an exotic drop, much less a precursor. Never get the rare mats, or ascended stuff from fractals. Never get the lucky rare dyes or rare mini pets from gambling with those either. Black Lion Chests always give me the worst possible loot you can get (boosters and some essences of luck). Even when I’m out and about in the world leveling an alt, I mostly get nothing but junk. It is rare that I even get a blue item, much less a green item. You can forget rares or exotics, or even the illusive precursors.

When it comes to luck in this game, I have negative. There was actually a bug a long time ago that flagged accounts to have basically a zero drop rate on everything. Supposedly they fixed that bug, but honestly, it feels like my account is still flagged. So yeah, forget precursors. It’s just never gonna happen. The RNG in GW2 is the worst I have ever experienced in any game.

Thats right if you don’t trust your luck then don’t gamble for any, if legendary to you mean anything just save your money and buy one.

I understand your situation as whatever game i’ve played i have been in same case too. Its GW2 i’ve better luck. But i’ve been adapted to these so called worst case, i am okay i got a precursor or not. I am even being black luck to become one of the minority that encountered connection iusses that i lost my character and all item after hundreds of hours gameplay and not recoverable in one of my all time favor online RPG.

So take it easy.

People saying that players are buying these things outright with real cash make my mind boggle.
I’ve just done a quick calculation using the current exchange rates, and to buy the Juggernaut directly from the trading company converting gems to gold would cost ~$617.
If people really are doing that, one, they’re just bloody stupid and two, I can understand how ArenaNet think they can get away with exploiting the stupidity of their punters by implementing more and more gem shop frippery.

There ARE people that have more money than sense(I call them poor little rich kids) that plays this game and are more than willing and able to drop a butt load of money playing this game(you know the saying “a fool and his money are soon parted”).

Well the good news is that I suspect the precursor problem will be fixed soon. It was stated that it was originally intended to be part of the April 15 feature pack but was delayed because of an overhaul to the rewards system. So I don’t think its unreasonable to assume that it will be implemented in the near-ish future.

Dante.8456:

Well the good news is that I suspect the precursor problem will be fixed soon. It was stated that it was originally intended to be part of the April 15 feature pack but was delayed because of an overhaul to the rewards system. So I don’t think its unreasonable to assume that it will be implemented in the near-ish future.

What rewards system there is no reward for playing GW2.

Dante.8456:

Well the good news is that I suspect the precursor problem will be fixed soon. It was stated that it was originally intended to be part of the April 15 feature pack but was delayed because of an overhaul to the rewards system. So I don’t think its unreasonable to assume that it will be implemented in the near-ish future.

Only system I remember them saying for precursors was a scavenger hunt system which they just recently scrapped. Legendary system in a desperate need of a revamp, hopefully one day a features patch will come along with a new fresh way for earning them along with a hefty new batch of Legeendarys. One can only hope but this is most likely years away.

Im Mudbone.1437:

Dante.8456:

Well the good news is that I suspect the precursor problem will be fixed soon. It was stated that it was originally intended to be part of the April 15 feature pack but was delayed because of an overhaul to the rewards system. So I don’t think its unreasonable to assume that it will be implemented in the near-ish future.

What rewards system there is no reward for playing GW2.

Sure there is, the game is fun to play. Anything else is collecting digital barbies, while that may be rewarding to some that is not why most people play games.

Piogre.2164:

Im Mudbone.1437:

I can’t prove it but I believe there is an account RNG conspiracy. {:-þ -LOL

Conspiracy? no. But there is a problem somewhere- I know of people who’ve gotten several prec’s in only a couple hundred forgings, and others who get none in over a thousand- I myself have gotten exactly one, somewhere between 2-3 hundred

I’m inclined to think A-Net kittened up somewhere in the rng code, and used account id as one of the seeds for the generator- that would explain why some accounts seem blessed or cursed with forge luck.

Fully agree with you either RNG or DR don’t work as they should. There are pople with permanent luck who are GUARANTEED to get good drops. Visit desolation and ask people from VILE about perma luck members, we have atleast 2. Luck of one of them is legendary, he got 50+ precursors so far.

There allready was a case of MMO with broken RNG where some number generated on acount creation was puting people in very favorable or very unfavorable spot. It was discovered after very long time. I believe GW2 is another such case.

Okay, gonna get flamed for this but so what, nothing new there. IF people are claiming to have NEVER gotten an exotic drop, post your stats, like hours played and magic find. If you sell all of those blues and greens because you think magic find doesn’t work, you’re wrong, it does work, to get caught up, salvage a bunch of ecto.

Now, the second point, if you think RNG is against you in some way, that you don’t have a “lucky account” or the powers that be hate you in some way, think again, there’s no trick to RNG, it is what it is, for all of us. How many of you can predict how many times heads will come up out of 10,000 flips, I’ll tell you, none of you can.

Third, IF you know the gods are against you, ANet black balled your account or some other bull-kitten, why do you whine so much? Is a legendary or precursor going to make you envied by all? Increase your performance or make you a better player? No chance so your whining is just wind, worthless and undermining to those that have a more positive attitude about things.

Entitlement is a sad, sad thing, no one owes you anything so it’s time to man/woman up and just play the game and try to have fun doing it. The Jones will always have greener grass and a nicer house if you actually care about that kitten.

Piogre.2164:

Im Mudbone.1437:

I can’t prove it but I believe there is an account RNG conspiracy. {:-þ -LOL

Conspiracy? no. But there is a problem somewhere- I know of people who’ve gotten several prec’s in only a couple hundred forgings, and others who get none in over a thousand- I myself have gotten exactly one, somewhere between 2-3 hundred

I’m inclined to think A-Net kittened up somewhere in the rng code, and used account id as one of the seeds for the generator- that would explain why some accounts seem blessed or cursed with forge luck.

100% agree that the rng coded is fubar’d somewhere. I got over 2000 hrs over 557 days and have got nothing. Exotics dropping have been rare to zero for extended periods.
Anet really needs to rethink how it works after going over their rng system 1st.

Cassocaster.4576:

Okay, gonna get flamed for this but so what, nothing new there. IF people are claiming to have NEVER gotten an exotic drop, post your stats, like hours played and magic find. If you sell all of those blues and greens because you think magic find doesn’t work, you’re wrong, it does work, to get caught up, salvage a bunch of ecto.

Now, the second point, if you think RNG is against you in some way, that you don’t have a “lucky account” or the powers that be hate you in some way, think again, there’s no trick to RNG, it is what it is, for all of us. How many of you can predict how many times heads will come up out of 10,000 flips, I’ll tell you, none of you can.

Third, IF you know the gods are against you, ANet black balled your account or some other bull-kitten, why do you whine so much? Is a legendary or precursor going to make you envied by all? Increase your performance or make you a better player? No chance so your whining is just wind, worthless and undermining to those that have a more positive attitude about things.

Entitlement is a sad, sad thing, no one owes you anything so it’s time to man/woman up and just play the game and try to have fun doing it. The Jones will always have greener grass and a nicer house if you actually care about that kitten.

Why would someone whine when they’re getting screwed by RNG? OK does that even make sense in your head?

As for entitlement, we all paid money for this game, and for some of us, it’s broken.

Aidenwolf.5964:

Why would someone whine when they’re getting screwed by RNG? OK does that even make sense in your head?

As for entitlement, we all paid money for this game, and for some of us, it’s broken.

Explain to me how a random number generator is broken? Are you a developer? Do you know how they work? Most use a time stamp seed and pass that into a numerical formula, the result is then parsed against the loot table values. Do you have any idea how hard it would be to “flag” accounts that should or shouldn’t get a boost to the drop engine?

Also, when you bought the game, did someone promise you a legendary or precursor as I didn’t see that in the EULA I accepted when installing the game. To that end, how can you expect that you are going to get one or claim the engine is broken.

Read my last point, no one owes you anything when you are dealing with RNG. It would be like arguing that because you spent $500US in a slot machine the casino owes you a mega prize. Good luck with that.

Life is not fair, never.

Somebody get rich, somebody don’t, somebody work 14 hours per day, somebody won the lottery, somebody born in a rich family etc.

My girl friend got 2 uncles both is a billionaire, but her family is just as common as everybody. Whom to blame? Nobody. Trust me, we have been discussed this kind of “unfair” situation countless of time.

Everyone played this game, somebody got luck, they got so many good item, and somebody got nothing. This is life, and i believe luck does matter but it is not inside our account.

Compare to all of you, I maybe lucky, i loot my precursor. If i compare myself to those “luckiest” player you guy mentioned above, and i am not that lucky either. If i try my luck and go mystic toilet, trust me, i could lose more gold than my luck allow me to gain.

I never set a goal in making legendary, therefore i am happy no matter i loot a precursor or not. If luck is on my side, bravo! I just happily craft my legendary, if i am out of luck, no precursor then i will make an ascended weapon, either is fine to me.

Cassocaster.4576:

Aidenwolf.5964:

Why would someone whine when they’re getting screwed by RNG? OK does that even make sense in your head?

As for entitlement, we all paid money for this game, and for some of us, it’s broken.

Explain to me how a random number generator is broken? Are you a developer? Do you know how they work? Most use a time stamp seed and pass that into a numerical formula, the result is then parsed against the loot table values. Do you have any idea how hard it would be to “flag” accounts that should or shouldn’t get a boost to the drop engine?

Also, when you bought the game, did someone promise you a legendary or precursor as I didn’t see that in the EULA I accepted when installing the game. To that end, how can you expect that you are going to get one or claim the engine is broken.

Read my last point, no one owes you anything when you are dealing with RNG. It would be like arguing that because you spent $500US in a slot machine the casino owes you a mega prize. Good luck with that.

I have a CS degree but I don’t work on Guild Wars 2 obviously. Your comments are silly. RNG or random number generators are very common in games. In fact they are the main tie between any RPG and a tabletop game. Assuming that this game uses a fixed RNG is your mistake, not mine. All code regarding this game’s loot mechanic is proprietary and none of us is privy to it.

To answer your second rant, casino games are regulated, GW2 is not.

Cassocaster.4576:

Aidenwolf.5964:

Why would someone whine when they’re getting screwed by RNG? OK does that even make sense in your head?

As for entitlement, we all paid money for this game, and for some of us, it’s broken.

Explain to me how a random number generator is broken? Are you a developer? Do you know how they work? Most use a time stamp seed and pass that into a numerical formula, the result is then parsed against the loot table values. Do you have any idea how hard it would be to “flag” accounts that should or shouldn’t get a boost to the drop engine?

Also, when you bought the game, did someone promise you a legendary or precursor as I didn’t see that in the EULA I accepted when installing the game. To that end, how can you expect that you are going to get one or claim the engine is broken.

Read my last point, no one owes you anything when you are dealing with RNG. It would be like arguing that because you spent $500US in a slot machine the casino owes you a mega prize. Good luck with that.

Some time back it was announced here by the dev team that RNG WAS broken and would/was (be)fixed, BUT for many this doesn’t appear to be (true)the case.

Im Mudbone.1437:

Cassocaster.4576:

Aidenwolf.5964:

Why would someone whine when they’re getting screwed by RNG? OK does that even make sense in your head?

As for entitlement, we all paid money for this game, and for some of us, it’s broken.

Explain to me how a random number generator is broken? Are you a developer? Do you know how they work? Most use a time stamp seed and pass that into a numerical formula, the result is then parsed against the loot table values. Do you have any idea how hard it would be to “flag” accounts that should or shouldn’t get a boost to the drop engine?

Also, when you bought the game, did someone promise you a legendary or precursor as I didn’t see that in the EULA I accepted when installing the game. To that end, how can you expect that you are going to get one or claim the engine is broken.

Read my last point, no one owes you anything when you are dealing with RNG. It would be like arguing that because you spent $500US in a slot machine the casino owes you a mega prize. Good luck with that.

Some time back it was announced here by the dev team that RNG WAS broken and would/was (be)fixed, BUT for many this doesn’t appear to be (true)the case.

It’s not just GW2, it’s everything. I rarely ever get anything.

I got the bow precursor after the Karka event debacle in the consolation prize box mailed out to players who were on the final fight when ANet pulled the plug. I chucked it onto the TP and swapped it for a Zap plus a few gold to make up the difference. I’m thoroughly enjoying GW2 now and slowly ambling my way toward Bolt at my own pace, comfortable in the knowledge that as long as the servers don’t vanish, I can take my time exploring the world. I’m currently about half way there on Karma and haven’t even begun to look at the other materials needed, since my priority is getting 100% exploration first.

Not that that helps you one bit OP :P

nosleepdemon.1368:

I got the bow precursor after the Karka event debacle in the consolation prize box mailed out to players who were on the final fight when ANet pulled the plug. I chucked it onto the TP and swapped it for a Zap plus a few gold to make up the difference. I’m thoroughly enjoying GW2 now and slowly ambling my way toward Bolt at my own pace, comfortable in the knowledge that as long as the servers don’t vanish, I can take my time exploring the world. I’m currently about half way there on Karma and haven’t even begun to look at the other materials needed, since my priority is getting 100% exploration first.

Not that that helps you one bit OP :P

I suppose this is how most of the community feels. If you got a precursor drop you’re happy, but if your luck is like mine you’re angry.

Wow… If you want a legendary that bad just buy the precursor from the TP. Right now some are a bit expensive because of those blog posts but it’ll go down again. It takes like a month for the pre and a month for the rest of it.

Just do what I do and forego Legendaries. I go for Fractal Weapons. They are way more in the spirit of how weapons were in GW1 as well. Besides, some of the Legendaries are cool, and some are really ridiculous. You can buy a Legendary, but you can not buy a Fractal Weapon. You have to get it as a drop. That’s why I like them. The skins are amazing too.

While I agree the fractal weapons are more exclusive, I hate fractals as currently implemented so that’s a non starter for me.

Got another precursor, # 7 (3 forge, 4 drop)

http://i.imgur.com/rPbZR29.jpg

Remember, you just need to farm lots and lots of mobs to have lots and lots of chances.

Unfortunately,with the megaservers hitting on April 15th this will not be possible anymore.

Vol.7601:

Remember, you just need to farm lots and lots of mobs to have lots and lots of chances.

Unfortunately,with the megaservers hitting on April 15th this will not be possible anymore.

I.. wha.. That doesn’t make any sense.

Grats on your precursor, but if anything, megaservers and new boss timing are going to up your chances of getting into an active zone, which means more chances at boss loot drops, and large numbers of mobs during events so you can get that .000000001% chance of a precursor drop. (Or .000000004% if you have max magic find :P)

Rauderi.8706:

Vol.7601:

Remember, you just need to farm lots and lots of mobs to have lots and lots of chances.

Unfortunately,with the megaservers hitting on April 15th this will not be possible anymore.

I.. wha.. That doesn’t make any sense.

Grats on your precursor, but if anything, megaservers and new boss timing are going to up your chances of getting into an active zone, which means more chances at boss loot drops, and large numbers of mobs during events so you can get that .000000001% chance of a precursor drop. (Or .000000004% if you have max magic find :P)

Vol is speaking from the perspective of a guy from a large server who guests to medium servers to maximize his kills per hour.

From his perspective, the change will reduce his maximum drops per hour pretty significantly since he must now wait for the map he is in to reset the events instead of jumping to a map where the events haven’t been started and are waiting.

From my perspective, the change will increase my drops per hour because I can actually do the events now since I will be playing with other people (you can’t solo most of the farming events).

I got my Precursor (the Warhorn) on first try, actually i just throw 4 exotics into the forgeand tada! Precursor xD i was so suprised that i almost ruined my keyboard as my mouth was full of water… i never seriously planned to get a legendary but now i will propably go for Howler.

But seriously, i think when it comes to RNG there are always some insanely lucky people and some insanely unlucky, the problem is that you only hear about the lucky ones therefore you will always have the feeling of being unlucky as informations about super lucker are spreading through the game quickly so that it seems as if there where many of them… its all about selective perception…

More of the same and I’ll say it again. Some people are lucky…like Vol….the rest are like me. Just kittened.

I have probably gotten10-15 exotic drops since pre-launch and I farm and zerg and dungeon and fractal….and everything except stand around and do nothing.

When my loot drops get really REALLY bad I’ve started to just log in, do dailies and then do something else. I love this game but the loot drops suck for those of us that aren’t lucky like Vol…..I really hate how some people get everything.

khani.4786:

More of the same and I’ll say it again. Some people are lucky…like Vol….the rest are like me. Just kittened.

I have probably gotten10-15 exotic drops since pre-launch and I farm and zerg and dungeon and fractal….and everything except stand around and do nothing.

When my loot drops get really REALLY bad I’ve started to just log in, do dailies and then do something else. I love this game but the loot drops suck for those of us that aren’t lucky like Vol…..I really hate how some people get everything.

That begs the question of whether or not you’re even working on your magic find bonus. Mine’s at roughly 130% after no more than a month and a half. Not to mention if I’m going around hitting up the lootstick events, I’m running a magic find booster, a laureate magic find booster, omnomberry bars (the highest % non-boon MF food), a guild magic find banner, and a heroes banner. And if I really wanted to go balls to the walls, I’d pop the karma/laureate karma and laureate gold boosters. After all that, it puts me at something close to 300% MF.

When I run temple chains, I’m looting an average of 30-40 heavy moldy bags an event. This doesnt touch on exotic gilded coffers or other misc gear drops that typically get salvaged mid-run to save room.

Vol.7601:

Got another precursor, # 7 (3 forge, 4 drop)

http://i.imgur.com/rPbZR29.jpg

Remember, you just need to farm lots and lots of mobs to have lots and lots of chances.

Unfortunately,with the megaservers hitting on April 15th this will not be possible anymore.

I have every slayer achievement and almost all of the weapons kills achievements (thats 5000 kills with each weapon, and 3000 (minimum) of each creature type in the game killed for those keeping score)….Ive killed lots of mobs. 150% MF base and usually run with lots of bonus’s to get me over 200%. I do get at least 1-2 exotics a week (sometimes more)….and dozens of rares (I dont keep track of these since I take them in groups of four and flush them in the mystic forge)

RNG is RNG, I’ve never gotten a pre-cursor of any type…some of us are just unlucky.

As long as people are wasting their income for some legendary pixels, Anet will not give a kitten .

After spending a year and half, I’ve not even come across an exotic worth any value let alone a precursor. But I guess the early game exploiters monopolizing and controlling the precursor market (at ridiculous prices) is ok with everyone. I guess that’s quite a legendary feat..

Vol.7601:

Got another precursor, # 7 (3 forge, 4 drop)

http://i.imgur.com/rPbZR29.jpg

Remember, you just need to farm lots and lots of mobs to have lots and lots of chances.

Unfortunately,with the megaservers hitting on April 15th this will not be possible anymore.

Must be nice! I kill lots and lots of L80 mobs and don’t get fancy drops, so yeah, RNG is RNG. Your luck isn’t representative of the actual rates of acquiring anything.

Just wanted to say, welcome to f2p models with a gem→gold system. You didn’t think it affected your game? Well, there you go…

Aidan Savage.2078:

khani.4786:

More of the same and I’ll say it again. Some people are lucky…like Vol….the rest are like me. Just kittened.

I have probably gotten10-15 exotic drops since pre-launch and I farm and zerg and dungeon and fractal….and everything except stand around and do nothing.

When my loot drops get really REALLY bad I’ve started to just log in, do dailies and then do something else. I love this game but the loot drops suck for those of us that aren’t lucky like Vol…..I really hate how some people get everything.

That begs the question of whether or not you’re even working on your magic find bonus. Mine’s at roughly 130% after no more than a month and a half. Not to mention if I’m going around hitting up the lootstick events, I’m running a magic find booster, a laureate magic find booster, omnomberry bars (the highest % non-boon MF food), a guild magic find banner, and a heroes banner. And if I really wanted to go balls to the walls, I’d pop the karma/laureate karma and laureate gold boosters. After all that, it puts me at something close to 300% MF.

When I run temple chains, I’m looting an average of 30-40 heavy moldy bags an event. This doesnt touch on exotic gilded coffers or other misc gear drops that typically get salvaged mid-run to save room.

Absolutely I am…..When MF gear was a thing I ran full MF gear + MF infusion, my base account MF is 152% and after my normal boosts I’m over 300% MF and even with that zergging in WvW or the Champ train in Frostgorge or any other large event my loot tends towards blues and greens, maybe 2-3 rares and sometime once or twice a month I might get an exotic drop. Maybe, if that.

Because of my crap drops even with MF well up there it really makes me think that there is something somewhere in the system that screws with the drops of certain accounts. That or MF is a placebo.

khani.4786:

Absolutely I am…..When MF gear was a thing I ran full MF gear + MF infusion, my base account MF is 152% and after my normal boosts I’m over 300% MF and even with that zergging in WvW or the Champ train in Frostgorge or any other large event my loot tends towards blues and greens, maybe 2-3 rares and sometime once or twice a month I might get an exotic drop. Maybe, if that.

Because of my crap drops even with MF well up there it really makes me think that there is something somewhere in the system that screws with the drops of certain accounts. That or MF is a placebo.

Magic Find ONLY works on mob drops. The reason you are seeing bad loot is because you are killing champs. Champ loot is NOT affected by Magic Find because it comes from containers.

To get the most benefit from Magic Find, you need to be doing Dynamic Events that spawn a lot of monsters to kill.

Piogre.2164:

some accounts seem blessed or cursed with forge luck.

This definitely exists.

A guildy of mine got 4 precursors in one week.

He was actively trying to get rid of his gold buying quality of life products that were incredibly expensive. He would buy a heap of exotics, just to get another precursor in the toilet.

There was a time when I would have wished them a sincere congratulations but that time has past. Nowadays I resent how precursors drop and how some people are blessed with them.

Many months ago in threads similar people talked about how there should be ‘streak breaker’ code that prevents players from getting drops so close to one another and distribute the drops better.

Given however, how sigils, runes etc haven’t worked properly since release. It’s impossible to think they got RNG working correctly.

Sylv.5324:

FearedbytheGods.8617:

multiple legendary weapons

I eventually made Twilight.

You made one, and are perhaps grinding a 2nd? That’s not multiple.

mtpelion.4562:

khani.4786:

Absolutely I am…..When MF gear was a thing I ran full MF gear + MF infusion, my base account MF is 152% and after my normal boosts I’m over 300% MF and even with that zergging in WvW or the Champ train in Frostgorge or any other large event my loot tends towards blues and greens, maybe 2-3 rares and sometime once or twice a month I might get an exotic drop. Maybe, if that.

Because of my crap drops even with MF well up there it really makes me think that there is something somewhere in the system that screws with the drops of certain accounts. That or MF is a placebo.

Magic Find ONLY works on mob drops. The reason you are seeing bad loot is because you are killing champs. Champ loot is NOT affected by Magic Find because it comes from containers.

To get the most benefit from Magic Find, you need to be doing Dynamic Events that spawn a lot of monsters to kill.

Well you are somewhat incorrect my friend, as champs not only give chests/bags, but ALSO drop random other weapons/armor/materials. So ya, MF should affect champ DROPS.