Guild Wars 2

If I want to convert 200 cores into 100 lodestones, I need 100 piles of crystalline dust.

If I want to craft the Bifrost, I need 750 piles of crystalline dust.

If I want to craft the Flameseeker Prophecies, I need 500 piles of crystalline dust.

That’s really great since dust drops from undead in cursed shore… Wait…. It’s been nerfed.

T6 dust also drops from high level ghosts…. There are no high level ghosts except the miserable few in Eternal Battlegrounds.

T6 dust also drops from heavy moldy bags, but since cursed shores and malchor’s leap have been nerfed, it’s kinda hard to get those.

What other avenues of getting T6 dust are left except from the trading post? I know the AC dungeon chest drops T6 dust also, but that dungeon has been buffed.

Is there anything remaining, that deals with T6 dust aquisition, that hasn’t been either nerfed or buffed?

I’ve decided to hoard T6 dust because of this. I’m not advocating that people do the same. It’s my personal decision. I mean, if Arenanet believes that the game produces enough supply of crystalline dust, then the trading post ought to never run out of those stuff right?

Yet, the total quantity on sale on the auction house for this particular material is dwindling and the prices for this particular commodity has risen 4 silver in the last 2 days alone.

alot of t6 mats need to drop more often.

Farm gold and buy the mats…

sounds like it’s time to buy all the mats

Omne.4603:

Farm gold and buy the mats…

Except, this is the entire reason for inflation? It would only make the problem worse. Anet needs to fix some of the droprates on certain items before prices spin even more out of control.

And if WvW rewards indeed increase the supply of precursors, t6 prices will rise even further.

Bright.9160:

Omne.4603:

Farm gold and buy the mats…

Except, this is the entire reason for inflation? It would only make the problem worse. Anet needs to fix some of the droprates on certain items before prices spin even more out of control.

Think this way: less drop leads to increase in price, and increase in price leads to either ppl farm gold more often or ppl use more gem to convert to gold.

Both of the consequences are intended: farm gold equals to ppl spend more time in the game and buy gem means direct profit to anet.

I am and will be displeased by any nerf to the drop rate, but I am not anet so I can’t do any change to this. You might say “I paid for the game and I need to make it what it should be”. Based on all previous patches, did anet ever listen to ppl complaining about drop rate nerf? Maybe the precursor scavenge hunt will break this but I highly doubt it will be long and annoying enough to prevent most players giving it a try.

Omne.4603:

Farm gold and buy the mats…

Only issue here is…. there’s nothing left to buy. It’s going to get sold out soon. There’s only about 1,000 pieces of them left on the auction house.

yeah that’s what i said about it in other threads. The demand of mats are just high. do you expect us to find mats in world event’s chest? even the heavy moldy bag give silks most of the time.

For record keeping, currently T6 dust is buying at 32s 20c a piece and selling for 35s 89c a piece.

I think Mirta is happy now since the dust price is rising :P

The more people that give up on farming mats equates to the supply of T6 mats shrinking and the prices increasing.
It’s easy to say: “Don’t farm the mats just farm the gold and buy them” but unlike buying gems and exchanging for gold, mats don’t appear from thin air. They are obtained by completing activities in the game that less and less people do because of the poor return for their time.
Someone has to farm them or supply will become negligent. Also more people simply farming for gold means that prices on popular items will rise due to the fact that a large majority can afford the higher prices and are willing to pay them.

Anet nerfed the fun right out of this game. Haven’t played since that last nerf-happy update and, at this rate, won’t be logging in ever again.

It is truly a shame, because this game had so much potential. But then that one company was hired to monetize the game better and everything went downhill from there.

Infernia.9847:

It’s easy to say: “Don’t farm the mats just farm the gold and buy them” but unlike buying gems and exchanging for gold, mats don’t appear from thin air.

Actually… they do. It’s how the MMOs work, devs control whole market via droprates and can bloat or suffocate it by few lines of codes. It’s hard to imagine more “appearing from thin air” economy than this.

Just saying

Relax and be patient. The vast majority of people farming T6 are currently doing so in SS because of the settler buff. Where the mobs don’t drop dust. This is why blood and venom sac prices are down some.

As far as farming bags, instead of being a lamer and humping one spot, run the event chains in Orr. A top to bottom run for Mel usually generates 10-20 bags for me, depending on what MF I’m running and my party status. The Shadowfain-Jofast bus is also solid, a full Grenth attempt and subsequent re-attempts will net you a lot. And don’t forget poor old Megil, the maggots off her friend’s corpses can be very generous. I’ve gotten about 10 bags off of them by myself with no MF before.

Oh and sorry, I had a hand in driving prices up, I just bought about 180 dusts over the last couple of days to finish off my gift of magic.

dadamowsky.4692:

Infernia.9847:

It’s easy to say: “Don’t farm the mats just farm the gold and buy them” but unlike buying gems and exchanging for gold, mats don’t appear from thin air.

Actually… they do. It’s how the MMOs work, devs control whole market via droprates and can bloat or suffocate it by few lines of codes. It’s hard to imagine more “appearing from thin air” economy than this.

Just saying

Of course the drop rate can be manipulated to control the supply but you forget if no one does the ‘activity’ that drops the item, the supply will still diminish.
That was more my point than whether or not the dev’s would tune the drop rate at any given time. That and the fact that a player can do absolutely nothing but stand in place and create themselves a fortune ( the out of thin air comment). But for them to have items in the TP to spend it on ‘someone’ has to do something.

Dust is even used in a lot more then just those uses stated in the OP. Pretty much every potion or similar item that gives that sort of buff requires dust as well. I’ve drastically scaled back my potion production (for personal use as well as selling on the TP) due to this.

Laurels can be traded for a bag of 3 random T6 mats as well

Can’t you promote dust as well?

Vol.5241:

Can’t you promote dust as well?

Yes, but most won’t because it is still a pretty big risk at the moment with the prices on both Dusts.

Dust is a high commodity low drop item. However, the item is farmable, unlike say silver doubloons. As the price rises, more people will farm it and sell it off. As the price peaks, hoarders will begin a sell off, bringing the price lower until it finds its place.

This is the same complaint that happened with ectos until the garenteed rare from world bosses. Now people are complaining that ectos are dropping to fast. For dust my opinion is to let the market work itself out, the prices will find a balnance eventually through new content, farmers, and people who acquire their goals and no longer need the dust.

Note my opinion is only for this item, and would be different from say doubloons, or venom sacks.

Salvage everything. Upgrade T5 dust and magic poobin.

If rares also give out t6 dust (low chance) and t5 (higher chance), things will be solved.

boondocksaint.6529:

Dust is a high commodity low drop item.

It is now, but this has not always been the case and the current issue with this item is due to oversight rather than design. It was becoming a problem back when I was finishing my FSP and now it’s getting worse.

ANet should address the problem – just add the T6 to the drop pool of high level mobs in another zone, or another event. Supply increases (slightly), price drops (slightly), pressure eases.

Dust really doesn’t have the number of “direct” sources that powerful blood, armored scales, vicious claws, vicious fangs, and ancient bone have.

^ All of those have mobs that you can go to in the world (frostgorge or southsun) and it the drops from mobs directly dending on what mob you’re farming, however, it’s not exactly the same for dust.

Dust drops from Risen, who also drop nearly all other t5-t6 mats, which makes them sparse, they also drop from sparks.

But sparks are only up when certain temples are under control, and when they are up, they are all spread around, making it a slower farm activity vs other areas and monsters. Of course, they are more condensed at the temple of lyssa, but you also have to eliminate the vets which take a little time.

You can go farm the sparks that pop in cursed shore, but they can vanish at any moment once the temple is taken back, and there are so few of them in the area, that it’s possible to clear the whole area of sparks in the area, and be left waiting 20-30 sec for a new one to spawn.

I admit gathering the 750 for my bifrost was a pain. I did alot of events in cursed shore and got a few from moldy bags but most of mine came from upgrading the T5 dust. I usually worked on one tier 6 mat at a time , so I would sell everything i got from an event and buy tier 5 dust. The most I ever got from 1 upgrade was 38 I think and the MF screwed me over with 12 a few times.

Use the mystic clover recipe. There’s a small chance that instead of getting a mystic clover, you may get lucky and get a couple piles of crystalline dust.

‘Course, after they nerfed the drop rate of ectos from rares, that’s quickly going to become ridiculous to do as well.

boondocksaint.6529:

Dust is a high commodity low drop item. However, the item is farmable, unlike say silver doubloons. As the price rises, more people will farm it and sell it off. As the price peaks, hoarders will begin a sell off, bringing the price lower until it finds its place.

This is the same complaint that happened with ectos until the garenteed rare from world bosses. Now people are complaining that ectos are dropping to fast. For dust my opinion is to let the market work itself out, the prices will find a balnance eventually through new content, farmers, and people who acquire their goals and no longer need the dust.

Note my opinion is only for this item, and would be different from say doubloons, or venom sacks.

Most people are happy about the ecto drop, now only if T6 mats would drop as well.

OliverT.9021:

Omne.4603:

Farm gold and buy the mats…

Only issue here is…. there’s nothing left to buy. It’s going to get sold out soon. There’s only about 1,000 pieces of them left on the auction house.

This isn’t entirely accurate.
The Supply listed on the Trading Post is the total of the amounts of the lowest 20 prices listed. You can check this easily for yourself by finding some cheap item with more than 20c inbetween the offers and listings and post one at each copper inbetween. The “supply” will drop to 20, and rise when they are bought.

lover.8351:

‘Course, after they nerfed the drop rate of ectos from rares, that’s quickly going to become ridiculous to do as well.

^ This.
Inb4 “nobody nerfed anything, take off that tinfoil hat”

T6 mats rising in price?! omg this is shocking!!, well not really, all the whiners got what they wanted. Anet stopped all Orr farmers in their track. Hope their “casual play and I’d don’t need to farm and you shouldn’t be either attitude” making them enough money to buy the mats for whatever it is they wanted.

OliverT.9021:

For record keeping, currently T6 dust is buying at 32s 20c a piece and selling for 35s 89c a piece.

I miss when it was under 3s each back before Plinx got nerfed.

Seeing as Dust has its hands in just about EVERYTHING, it’s more than irritating that it’s so difficult to find. At least I have an idea of how to somewhat consistently collect Ectos if I need them.

Dust price is fine.

Orr drop rate was not nerfed – it was only changed in one specific farm spot. Run melandru, lyssa and dwayna starting from pres – good bag drops and the guaranteed rare reward for money once you finish the full temple event.
Dust is also cheaper than it ever was. Good time to buy a lot if you ask me.

Agree they are hard to come by. But id rather see them not needed for so many things like transmutation, oils, etc. Ive never been able to save any because whenever I get them they go straight into consumables.

Bright.9160:

Omne.4603:

Farm gold and buy the mats…

Except, this is the entire reason for inflation? It would only make the problem worse. Anet needs to fix some of the droprates on certain items before prices spin even more out of control.

Exactly. Nice to see some others are starting to catch on to just what the problem is. I’m still tracking the prices on things, they’ve got two more months and the most expensive items I’ve been tracking will hit close to 500% inflation since November of last year. It’s only going up folks not down. Soon no one will have these items even in the TP because the cutoff point will start getting worse as more people leave and fewer drops are allowed, there is a cutoff and it’s only going to get uglier not better.

I saw a corrolation the last time they made an adjustment (stealth) to the transmutation of the items using the dust. I was using the 250 T5 + two other mats and + 1 dust to create the T6 materials. It was huge compared to any other time I’ve done the transmute. I got 56 of one material and 37 of another. So basically they’ve adjusted the number of dusts that drop to offset the increase in mystic forge transmutations. I tried it twice to make sure it wasn’t a fluke. In the past, when I did it before the change, transmutation only gave me 17 of the item 18 max. Back then, two months ago, I could get a T6 item from every single box/craft bag I purchased with my laurels/karma and I could get these things without magic find armor or buffs of any kind.

Also as a marker keep in mind my account is constantly hit with DR or whatever they’d like to call it where I kill 6-8 things and get nothing but skulls constantly after that.

Mirta.5029:

Orr drop rate was not nerfed – it was only changed in one specific farm spot. Run melandru, lyssa and dwayna starting from pres – good bag drops and the guaranteed rare reward for money once you finish the full temple event.
Dust is also cheaper than it ever was. Good time to buy a lot if you ask me.

don’t you get it??? Bag doesn’t guarantee any dusts and t6 mats. if you wanna buy it from tp and have money to buy it on tp, there’s nothing you can do if the tp isn’t selling any!

EXireXs.3602:

Mirta.5029:

Orr drop rate was not nerfed – it was only changed in one specific farm spot. Run melandru, lyssa and dwayna starting from pres – good bag drops and the guaranteed rare reward for money once you finish the full temple event.
Dust is also cheaper than it ever was. Good time to buy a lot if you ask me.

don’t you get it??? Bag doesn’t guarantee any dusts and t6 mats. if you wanna buy it from tp and have money to buy it on tp, there’s nothing you can do if the tp isn’t selling any!

had 9 bags – got 2 T6 blood, 1 T6 venom sac and 1 T6 dust. Those bags have really good drop rate when it comes to T6.

Mirta.5029:

EXireXs.3602:

Mirta.5029:

Orr drop rate was not nerfed – it was only changed in one specific farm spot. Run melandru, lyssa and dwayna starting from pres – good bag drops and the guaranteed rare reward for money once you finish the full temple event.
Dust is also cheaper than it ever was. Good time to buy a lot if you ask me.

don’t you get it??? Bag doesn’t guarantee any dusts and t6 mats. if you wanna buy it from tp and have money to buy it on tp, there’s nothing you can do if the tp isn’t selling any!

had 9 bags – got 2 T6 blood, 1 T6 venom sac and 1 T6 dust. Those bags have really good drop rate when it comes to T6.

yeah you always talk about yourself dude! what about others? its RNG! do you expect me to get the same amount and type of T6 that you got?

LoneWolfie.1852:

If rares also give out t6 dust (low chance) and t5 (higher chance), things will be solved.

I think this is a good idea.

EXireXs.3602:

yeah you always talk about yourself dude! what about others? its RNG! do you expect me to get the same amount and type of T6 that you got?

those bags are 50/50 from what I’ve seen. While it is still RNG the drop rate from them is decent.

Mirta.5029:

EXireXs.3602:

yeah you always talk about yourself dude! what about others? its RNG! do you expect me to get the same amount and type of T6 that you got?

those bags are 50/50 from what I’ve seen. While it is still RNG the drop rate from them is decent.

1 out of 6 is not 50/50. 1 out of 2 is 50/50 and I do have to agree with some who have posted here.

The argument against there being something wrong is never “I got mine sorry for your bad luck” which seems to be a theme on these forums whenever someone mentions that there’s a problem with loot acquisition in this game.

Mirta.5029:

EXireXs.3602:

yeah you always talk about yourself dude! what about others? its RNG! do you expect me to get the same amount and type of T6 that you got?

those bags are 50/50 from what I’ve seen. While it is still RNG the drop rate from them is decent.

The bags in Orr do not give a 50% T6 return back over a large sample if that is what you are suggesting.

I find it hard to stock up on Crystalline Dust because so often there are profitable craftings made with it, so I’m always buying a stack of it, then doing 252 crafts (2 from ones I found), then no more dust on hand. It’s a real pain in the keester and makes it hard to save up for my Legendary; you have no idea! One of these days I’ll probably have to buy all the dust I need instead of saving the ones I find…

i had to buy most of my 750 pile of t6 dust…
some friend just gave me his from time to time (he was using it for charged cores transmutations). but the dust was at a certain point very rare to acquire, while when i started to play high level area (november) it was easy to acquire (the first stack of dust i just farmed it back than while i was not even farming it because i wanted ecto for my first exotic set).
last time i checked in the tp there were less the 1k t6 dust. it means bifrost it’s costing even more that sunrise at this pace.

instead we are so full of vile of putrid essence (it comes in a wooden chest like rare drop) that it cost 50ish copper.

Da Sonic.6521:

OliverT.9021:

Omne.4603:

Farm gold and buy the mats…

Only issue here is…. there’s nothing left to buy. It’s going to get sold out soon. There’s only about 1,000 pieces of them left on the auction house.

This isn’t entirely accurate.
The Supply listed on the Trading Post is the total of the amounts of the lowest 20 prices listed. You can check this easily for yourself by finding some cheap item with more than 20c inbetween the offers and listings and post one at each copper inbetween. The “supply” will drop to 20, and rise when they are bought.

Morning guys!

Sonic, yeah, I am aware that the supply listed on the trading post only shows the supply of the lowest 20 prices listed. However, the total supply listed on the trading post can be found here -

http://www.gw2spidy.com/item/24277

As of right now, there are only a total of 617 pieces of T6 dust left and 39,655 pieces to order. Since Anet doesn’t want people to farm, it’s just a matter of time when the auction house completely runs out of supply.

I think it’s obvious that the amount of supply coming in isn’t enough to offset the amount of demand chewing ofkitten

gClash.3186:

OliverT.9021:

For record keeping, currently T6 dust is buying at 32s 20c a piece and selling for 35s 89c a piece.

I miss when it was under 3s each back before Plinx got nerfed.

One day later…

T6 dust is buying at 34s 28c a piece and selling for 36s 20c a piece today as at 8:38am on 30th May 2013.

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Pile_of_Crystalline_Dust

1 Crystalline dust + 250 incandescent dust + 5 Philosopher’s Stone + 5 Crystals

Makes up to 40 Crystalline dust

You can even make a profit on it go to town lil buddy

CAN make up to 40 crystalline dust, but also can be 12

Dante.1508:

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Pile_of_Crystalline_Dust

1 Crystalline dust + 250 incandescent dust + 5 Philosopher’s Stone + 5 Crystals

Makes up to 40 Crystalline dust

You can even make a profit on it go to town lil buddy

The rate is between 6-40. The higher number scale is a lot rarer to get than the lower number scale, and at the current TP values, you would need at least 16 to break even. The odds of getting 17+ to make a profit are actually quite low, and that’s why a lot of people aren’t doing it.